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That which is and was vis-a-vis college football, re: this weekend and the immediate future thereof. Written as always from Pete Carroll's hot-tub in the USC underground grotto, which he writes off on his taxes as a 1300 ft "office."

We regret the error. Pam Ward, broadcasting the early Big Ten game on ESPN2, makes a slight error on a roster/injury call.

PW: Yes, he's out for the game with some criminal trouble. Um, sorry, that's a hamstring.

Did we say aggravated sodomy on a Cornish Gamehen? We apologize. Meant to say he's out due to turf toe. Really the same thing when you get down to it.

Of course it's tax deductible! IT'S A HOT TUB.

Gameday live from Oregon again proved that the only fans on the West Coast that gives a proper-sized shit about college football is the Oregon fanbase, who showed up in numbers despite it being cold and pitch black. Wherever the camera panned, there were dimly lit faces wearing green and yellow. Impressive, but next time for a properly frightening effect, bring torches and pitchforks, Duck fans. (This will only backfire against Tennessee fans in an interconference game, since it will remind them of last week's hunt.)

Lee Corso, btw, continues to be the conversational anchor for the Gameday crew. There's several times a show when Corso pauses and everyone around him has no idea what to do. At this point, once Corso snaps to and realizes this, he says what he just said again, but LOUDER. At this point, Desmond Howard text messages a young honey dip, and Chris Fowler reaches for the gun under the desk, counts to ten like his therapist told him to, and moves the show on to the next topic.

D.J. Moore of Vandy is 11th in the SEC in tackles with 57 solo tackles as a sophomore cornerback. Sadly for Vandy, he could not be cloned 10 times, as Percy Harvin decided to bring his evil twin Mercy along with him for Vandy's game at Florida: Percy caught the ball 9 times for 110 yards and Mercy ran the ball 11 times for 113 yards on the ground. Florida won 49-22, quieting the nerves of Cassandras and keeping Vandy one game shy of bowl eligible, which was impolite, really.

Indiana roundly beat Ball State, becoming bowl eligible and causing afterlife-white-suit-wearing afterlife Terry Hoeppner to cruise by, tip the pimp cup in the Hoosiers' direction, and roar off back into the heavens. 100 Cocktails, sir, to you and the Hoosiers.

HD versus regular video standard can be thanked for at least one unreversed call on replay challenge on Saturday. In the Florida/Vandy game, Percy Harvin snatched a ball off the ground like a Lab scooping up a falling crumb off the linoleum, and the crew at Florida Field opted to review. If we really had to guess, the ball was trapped for the catch; however, the crappy video standard meant that the defining light and shadows were too murky to see exactly what would have been clear in HD.


A career investment. Asian chick with lump on head included.

What's the point? We don't want an HD tv. We need one for clarity's sake, tax auditor. Strictly for personal use, and not for porn and hours of Guitar Hero 3.

Percy Harvin could juke through a herd of stampeding bulls.

Dave Neal and Dave Archer give us our next great moment in broadcasting

Star-divide

from the Lincoln Financial broadcast of Vandy/Florida.

Dave Neal: Man, it is a perfect day here in Gainesville. I might not go home.

Dave Archer: Your wife might not be happy with that.

Dave1: "She might not mind that."

Dave2: "Yeah."

HA-ha! Marriage in trouble.

It would have been great to have our national perspective broadened and had the chance to watch the Wisconsin/Ohio State game. But it was on the Big Ten Network, and we therefore couldn't sit on our couch and watch it. What? We're supposed to blame our cable operator? But they're the magical flicker elves who pipe Adult Swim into our eyes! They're good! Jim Delany's much easier to hate, since he's Jim Delany and never gave us Squidbillies or Sealab 2021. And sorting out provider/network pricing disputes hurts our tiny normal-sized brain.

As it was, though, Ohio State may have looked more impressive in the stat column and in the glimpses of Beanie Wells' (163 yards, 21 carries, and 3 TDs) shoulder pads jerking spastically downfield through seemingly handless Wisconsin defenders. Wisconsin was without leading rusher P.J. Hill, though, so SEC pollsters looking for any reason at all to put LSU number one and Ohio State second, well, there you go. Free of charge from the propaganda department.

Another Great Moment In Broadcasting came from the VS. broadcast of the Kansas State/Iowa game, courtesy of whoever was doing their sideline commentary:

I asked them what Coach Ron Prince said at the half, and he said he talked to them about not playing well.

With inspirational, incisive talk like that, Ron Prince is gonna be a neon-lit monster of a legendcoach. BTW, this was also the talk of Ron Prince's inspirational incisive post-game talk, as Kansas State lost to the 1-8 Cyclones.

NBC Sports still runs their sports operation like it's 1982. "Hello, helpless, unpicky sports consumer! Prior to our exclusive coverage of NOTRE DAME FOOTBALL, enjoy our coverage of the Olympic Marathon Qualifying run, which you know is thrilling because it's TWO HOURS OF MANOREXIA ON THE HOOF!!! Look at them run! And still running! Later, following the game, stay tuned for Survival of the Fittest and our stirring coverage of English sidecar racing!"

Actually, this sounds way better than what NBC actually shows as sport.

USF continues to devalue itself like a prudent Fortune 500 company would, coughing up eight turnovers against Cincinnati to lose 38-33. Investors nod approvingly, applaud their ethics, and immediately sell. UConn continues to show surprising yields despite Randy Edsall's unglamorous offshoring of points, glitz, and football not involving a guy in bleached dreads hitting the shit out of someone. That's UConn football: some guy in bleached dreads hitting the ever-loving shit out of somebody. It's good enough for 4-0 in the Big East and 8-1 overall.

UConn will make a BCS bowl, and there's nothing you can do about it. Cue the sound of men in zanily covered blazers jumping headfirst from balconies at the thought of having to take UConn and their 4000 fans in a bowl game. Spare tickets may always be given to the homeless--you know they'll show up, and you can kill two birds with one stone by filling the stadium and running a live tuberculosis exposure experiment simultaneously.

Navy beat Notre Dame. Navy beat Notre Dame. Navy beat Notre Dame. Navy beat Notre Dame. Navy beat Notre Dame. Navy beat Notre Dame. Navy beat Notre Dame. Navy beat Notre Dame. Navy beat Notre Dame. Navy beat Notre Dame. Navy beat Notre Dame. Navy beat Notre Dame. Navy beat Notre Dame. Navy beat Notre Dame. Navy beat Notre Dame. Navy beat Notre Dame. Navy beat Notre Dame. Navy beat Notre Dame. Navy beat Notre Dame. Navy beat Notre Dame. Navy beat Notre Dame. Navy beat Notre Dame. Navy beat Notre Dame. Navy beat Notre Dame. Navy beat Notre Dame. Navy beat Notre Dame. Navy beat Notre Dame. Navy beat Notre Dame. Navy beat Notre Dame. Navy beat Notre Dame. Navy beat Notre Dame. Navy beat Notre Dame. Navy beat Notre Dame. Navy beat Notre Dame. Navy beat Notre Dame. Navy beat Notre Dame. Navy beat Notre Dame. Navy beat Notre Dame. Navy beat Notre Dame. Navy beat Notre Dame. Navy beat Notre Dame. Navy beat Notre Dame. Navy beat Notre Dame.

Forty-three times, if you're counting, thus equaling the streak snapped by Navy in their 46-44. Drink to the foam!

Bill Callahan...er, we mean Charlie Weis did pass up a 41 yard field goal to attempt a 4th and 8 conversion that Notre Dame crumpled on following Navy linebacker Ram Vela's Supaman leap and sack of quarterback Evan Sharpley. Weis had several painfully retarded/hopelessly arrogant moments in the game, but the worst may have been the final two point conversion attempt, a lame running play Navy had snuffed out pre-snap. Notre Dame hadn't been able to rush through a Dan Brown novel all season, much less run when it counted. Jon Chait's still wrong about Weis being "The Worst Coach In the Universe." Saying that he was an inept sweatshirt-wearing anti-Belichick on Saturday is not inaccurate, though.

It took Kansas four quarters to score 76 points on Nebraska. That's the total amount of points Virginia, your ACC leading Cavaliers, have scored in their last four games. Also astonishing: Nebraska's Blackshirts gave up a total of 348 points in 1995-96 across two seasons of horrifying, dominant football. This year's Pinkshirt Sleeveless Mesh T edition has given up 359 points this season alone.

Kansas, with its hordes of angry white guys with thick calves, now obviously has the crown of official team of the White Midwest. Commenter Mr. Pelican Pants suggests that Kansas prepare immediately for the post-season steroid investigation by the NCAA.

Chad Henne played on one leg Saturday and still made some ungodly throws to Mario Manningham, who made equally heretical catches to pull Michigan out of trouble and into a 28-24 victory at Michigan State. Mike Debord will be waiting with a tire iron outside Henne's door to ensure Henne's continued one-leggedness for the Ohio State game, since he played better on one knee than he has on two.

Do not forget that Matt Flynn faked a knee injury to avoid wasting a timeout in the LSU/Alabama game in order to fix his busted headgear. Flynn, feeling that his chinstrap was broken in the first half, grabbed his knee and flopped with the spineless skill of Cristiano Ronaldo, falling dramatically to the turf and actually limping on the same knee the whole time to get to the sideline and fix his helmet.

LSU continues the Mr. Toad's Wild Ride thing with the narrow win at Bama, keyed largely by a late miscue by John Parker Wilson, who fumbled the ball late for an eventual LSU touchdown. Miles continues to talk in several different voices during the game; one with the sideline reporter, one after the game at the press conference, another at the weekly appearance. He's like Ahab, addressing the crew one way while writing in Shakespearean verse in his journals.

Do they shoot Oregon games from the Hubble Telescope? The overhead cam at Oregon is situated so high above the field that Dennis Dixon's underplayed national presence as a jaw-dropping player of astonishing talent is an achievement in itself--every time he plays at home, he's literally smaller than every other potential NFL top-tenner on the screen thanks to Autzen's mile-high pressbox camera.

Even from space, great detail could be seen, though, including Oregon's assault on Rudy Carpenter. Oregon turned dogs loose on Carpenter, sacking him nine times and nullifying Arizona State's run game once the Duck offense cranked to life and spotted the Ducks a few scores. Oregon may have had the most single-game PR impact of any major team's games on Saturday, even if ESPN watchers on the East Coast had to wait through the dregs of UConn-USF to watch the game. Oregon versus Ohio State for the title? A spread offense going in against a heavily favored Ohio State team? MAO!

Brent Musberger, forcibly separated from Jim Tressel by a restraining order and his employer's demands that he cover the FSU/Boston College games, funneled that pain into on-air laughs by mocking the Boston Globe's burial of Boston College's game against the Seminoles on page eight of the sports page. Ah, that's funny, Brent! Holding up that paper thingy they read back during the Cold War. Call us on your corded phone and tell us about this bonny pair of pantaloons you found to match that new horseless carriage you purchased with your pieces-of-eight!

Matt Ryan isn't a football genius, but he's certainly in better shape than FSU's kicker. We've never seen an FSU kicker who didn't look like a 44 year old Venezuelan guy wearing a football player costume to a party, and we still haven't after watching Gary Cismesia roll off the bench and paunch onto the field for kicks against Boston College. Do they make them lift a weight at FSU? As in a single weight whose primary bulk and heft does not come from its malty, liquid contents?

We come not to merely poke FATTIE! FATTIE! fun at the long string of obviously unhealthy-looking FSU kickers, but to say that being the kicker at FSU must be the best and easiest way to enjoy the football life on the cheap, effort-wise.

Finally, Darren McFadden. Commentary fails. Watch.

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Quite a recap. Cocktails and Kudos.

by doubtingthomas on Nov 5, 2007 8:29 AM EST reply actions  

I’d still give Herschel and Bo a slight edge over McFadden as best all-time in the SEC – but only a slight edge. He’s definitely made the foursome, along with Emmitt.

by beast in 'bama on Nov 5, 2007 8:46 AM EST reply actions  

No mention of the Colts losing, thereby severely damaging any hopes of playing for the national championship? Wait, what? They do? They will?

Why would anyone follow the NFL? Gambling and gambling-related items, aside, of course.

by Ted Ginn did Everythin' on Nov 5, 2007 8:48 AM EST reply actions  

Don’t forget the ultra Lo-Fi review of the Vandy goaline dive summarily slapped out of the QB’s mitts and scooped up for an apparent 99 yd TD for UF. Thanks to LFS having exactly ZERO cameras actually gasp on the goaline, the Vandy TD stood as called on the field. The Daves. They slay me.

by NativeSon on Nov 5, 2007 8:50 AM EST reply actions  

Guitar Hero III is ‘effin hard, man. It’s called Guitar Hero, but I just feel like a douchebag with a fake plastic guitar.

by JoeDawg on Nov 5, 2007 8:54 AM EST reply actions  

I will restate my objection to your characterization of KU’s team here:

“But….we have some brothers!”

In re: KU scoring 76 points, that is more points than KU scored against Nebraska during the entire decade of either the 1970s or 1980s.

by PeteJayhawk on Nov 5, 2007 9:04 AM EST reply actions  

College Emmitt does not belong in the discussion with the other three.

by Chg on Nov 5, 2007 9:04 AM EST reply actions  

Proud of the team and the way they fought. Hate for a great game full of huge plays to be decided on a sack/fumble inside the 5 yard line inside of 2 minutes. Regardless, great game Tigers.

by Tater Salad on Nov 5, 2007 9:16 AM EST reply actions  

I am so glad I was able to see McFadden in person play-though he was only a true freshman, still busted a 70 yard TD run against the great 2005 Bama defense. Hopefully I can somehow catch the Arkansas-LSU game this year for one more glimpse.

by bamafanintigerland on Nov 5, 2007 9:16 AM EST reply actions  

I think the Cristiano Ronaldo comparison is inaccurate. Flynn would need years of Mediterranean training to achieve that proficiency. I would call Flynn Arjen Robbenesque.

by wtterminus on Nov 5, 2007 9:24 AM EST reply actions  

I watched a clip of Granny Hotlz and Mark May talking about “programs in trouble” (read: Nebraska & Notre Dame). After watching Holtz spit, spray and rage his way through a defense of both coaching staffs, I have to think that Holtz is harboring at least 35 stray animals at his home.

by fotodog on Nov 5, 2007 9:29 AM EST reply actions  

Also overlooked is McFadden’s defensive numbers:
He had 6 tackles, 1 TFL, .5 sacks and 2 pass break ups.

by fotodog on Nov 5, 2007 9:33 AM EST reply actions  

Anyone see Crable run down Caulkrik ?

by Scalz1 on Nov 5, 2007 9:36 AM EST reply actions  

Stupid enter button.
Crable running down Caulcrik: not humanity advanced, but I’m sure there is some kind of genenome altering in there somewhere.

by Scalz1 on Nov 5, 2007 9:38 AM EST reply actions  

I think you meant “Saying that he was an inept sweatshirt-wearing anti-Belichick on Saturday is not inaccurate, though.” Unless you think it’s unfair to characterize Weis as an inept sweatshirt-wearing anti-Belichick.

Death is not an option: Weis, Callahan, Franchione, or Gailey?

by Doug on Nov 5, 2007 9:40 AM EST reply actions  

re: Oregon fans, that’s only because the Harrington Bandwagoneers were too stoned to notice the last few years. (Hooray for chardonnay-sipping bandwagoneers giving up season tickets to the Coliseum!)

Re: Matt Flynn and flopping: he’s no Cristiano Ronaldo, Ronaldo has skills that can’t be taught. Arjen Robben is a good call; I’d suggest Didier Drogba but without the equivalent talent – big enough that he should be flogged for pretending that he’s injured from a fresh breeze.

by DC Trojan on Nov 5, 2007 9:43 AM EST reply actions  

it is now up to ole miss and arkansas to save my football season and take down lsu. i feel ill.

GO SEC EAST!!!!

by gerry dorsey on Nov 5, 2007 9:43 AM EST reply actions  

Remember you said “sleep well middies, tomorrow you can sleep in til 7 am.” My buddy at the Academy said they up and canceled classes today for that ND victory. Sleep well indeed.

by Brian on Nov 5, 2007 9:47 AM EST reply actions  

Kansas just scored again on Nebraska.

by Jeff on Nov 5, 2007 9:48 AM EST reply actions  

Glad to see McFadden go pro after this year (please please let it happen) but I’m sure that Nutt has some other genitcally enhanced prodigy on redshirt ready to be unleashed on the SEC West.

Every year, Arkansas is a CRAPPY football team with one maddening game changer on offense. We were all so glad to see Matt Jones go pro so the pigs could go back to the Mississippi-esq status at which they belong. Then comes this McFadden freak of nature.

by TIGERinATL on Nov 5, 2007 9:51 AM EST reply actions  

I say, do any of you chaps know where I can find a bucket of kittens? Also, I’ll need directions to a pharmacy. I feel as though I’ve contracted something rather nasty:

Hot Hot Hot>Space, bitches>the fattening irish>the bipolar dorrells>cal slumping bears>Nike U> golf cart going into a volcano

How the fuck did Cal beat Oregon? Turnovers are a bitch, man.

by big jon 8.0 on Nov 5, 2007 9:57 AM EST reply actions  

And sorting out provider/network pricing disputes hurts our tiny normal-sized brain.

As someone who lives in Big 10 country (and get’s the Big 10 Network), it is so great getting deluged with weekly full page newspaper ads and commercial with people like Jim Tressel and Lloyd Carr telling me to call and request the Big 10 Network. I especially enjoy the full page ads by the BTN criticizing Time Warner for not agreeing to their extortion demands in order to provide their viewers all the OSU games that Time Warner showed last year.

The BTN analysts are not very good and their graphics look like they were created by high schoolers with photoshop.

However, you can’t blame the BTN for not showing OSU v Wisconsin (unless you don’t think BTN should exist at all).

Contracts say that each school has to show one conference game on BTN. ESPN picked up OSU v Northwestern, so that left either Wiscy or Illinois for the BTN. ESPN should have given OSU v NW to BTN.
So blame the worldwide leader.

It will be interesting to see if BTN makes it through Spring/Summer. If BTN is a success, SEC Network, Big 12 Network, and Pac10 Network are just around the corner……

by bnb614 on Nov 5, 2007 10:00 AM EST reply actions  

Well Felix Jones is averaging, what 9 YPC. He is no McFadden, but he may be the 2nd best RB in the SEC.

by bamafanintigerland on Nov 5, 2007 10:02 AM EST reply actions  

#11

I’m expecting someone to put up a youtube of Holtz’ rant interspersed with Kansas and Navy plays from this weekend.

by DallasTiger on Nov 5, 2007 10:04 AM EST reply actions  

If UConn made a BCS bowl game, the entire fuckin’ state would head south. We brought 10,000 people to lame Motor City Bowl in Detroit the day after Christmas.

The Sugar Bowl reps were here on Saturday and I saw one of them cartwheeling out of the stadium in joy. Let me repeat…the whole fuckin’ state would go to New Orleans. We have nothing else!!!

by Edsall is God on Nov 5, 2007 10:11 AM EST reply actions  

/Begin Michigan nitpick.

Edit needed. Michigan won 28-24 not 24-20.

end Michigan nitpick/

by maskedavenger on Nov 5, 2007 10:14 AM EST reply actions  

Edsall, a wake up call comes in 2 weeks in the form of West Virginia, so don’t get your hopes up.

by bnb614 on Nov 5, 2007 10:19 AM EST reply actions  

As you read this, Lee Corso is driving somewhere in FL with a turn signal on.

by blazin on Nov 5, 2007 10:22 AM EST reply actions  

Rooney should’ve taken that grease ball Ronaldo out at club practice. Damn I hate that guy. And Portugal. Give them real English Football: broken legs and, if possible, death on the pitch. Why did you bring that guy up???

UConn keep winning? Kansas is #4? Tennessee controls its own destiny in the SEC East?

That’s cacked up.

by UgasTexan on Nov 5, 2007 10:28 AM EST reply actions  

And Arkansas #3 and #4 RBs (Smith and Barnett) have an additional 400 yards on about 50 or so carries. My Hogs can’t pass, but by God they’ve got this running thing down.

by Jerkwheat on Nov 5, 2007 10:29 AM EST reply actions  

insert overused comment about how you ruined my dreams about Ariel by putting Pete Carroll’s face on her here.

and Gerry Dorsey @ 17, could you imagine the riot/orgy/goat dance that would ensue if The Orgeron beat LSU?

by PW on Nov 5, 2007 10:32 AM EST reply actions  

Edsall, doesn’t “whole fucking state” = 10000?

by PW on Nov 5, 2007 10:36 AM EST reply actions  

If UConn was in a BCS bowl, there would be 20,000 fans easy. We’ve brought that many to final fours and even, ugh, chick final fours.

26- If West Virginia loses before then, UConn can wrap up the Big East title with wins over Cincy and Syracuse. Stop hating and hop aboard.

by Edsall is God on Nov 5, 2007 10:46 AM EST reply actions  

Damn Orson,

What’s with the War and Peace recap. Lunch meeting and like Nick Saban I don’t have time for this shit.

Trojan – re:Drogba – not even that level of acting but you have the implausibility nailed to perfection

by marcillac on Nov 5, 2007 10:50 AM EST reply actions  

UgasTexas @ 29

I dunno, they made a mighty fine combo at Man U last year.

by marcillac on Nov 5, 2007 10:52 AM EST reply actions  

Stop you’re hurting my brain.

by Brian on Nov 5, 2007 10:55 AM EST reply actions  

UgasTexan:

Almost McFadden/Jonesesque

by marcillac on Nov 5, 2007 10:55 AM EST reply actions  

Many cocktails and a beer chaser to Navy.

Is it legal for McFadden to throw the ball to himself?

by DirkDawggler on Nov 5, 2007 10:57 AM EST reply actions  

FSU Kicker would be a dream job – they certainly don’t have high expectations of them. Miss a game-winner against UM and no one really remembers your name – you’re just one amongst many…

by crabs on Nov 5, 2007 10:59 AM EST reply actions  

  1. - The SEC already has 2 networks. They are called CBS and ESPN. At least 2 national games every single week. LF broadcasts another one regionally. If your team isn’t on one of these, then you can usually get it on PPV or Game Plan. No place like the South for college football.

I don’t need no SECTV.

  1. - Felix Jones is a bad ass too, but he may go pro as well. Let us all hope.

by TIGERinATL on Nov 5, 2007 11:19 AM EST reply actions  

Navy did not beat Notre Dame. It was Navy with Charlie Weis assisting that beat Notre Dame.

by Harvey Wireman on Nov 5, 2007 11:27 AM EST reply actions  

I stopped reading at UCONN + BCS Bowl.

NO WAY IN HELL they beat WVU in Morgantown on November 24th.

The Huskies will look like the Huskers on that day.

by TC#27 on Nov 5, 2007 11:35 AM EST reply actions  

Orson, I’m sure Brent was just checking the ticker on his stocks. You know, Consolidated Slave Holdings, The Boston Opera Hat Co., and Congrieve’s Inflammable Powders…

by tOSU_radar on Nov 5, 2007 11:41 AM EST reply actions  

42 – Okay, I’ve had it. Why does West Virginia get so much f’in respect when no other Big East team does? What has West Virginia ever done other than shocking a sleepwalking Georgia team in the Sugar Bowl? Was it the multiple Gator Bowl appearances? What about the two losses to two USF teams that aren’t that good?

West Virginia is an inflated piece of garbage right now. They have beaten absolutely NO ONE of consquence this year, save for a decent Mississippi State team. Oooh they crushed Rutgers. Newsflash, so did UConn. Give me a break. I’m not saying West Virginia won’t win but please, let’s keep the slurping to a minimum.

by Edsall is God on Nov 5, 2007 11:47 AM EST reply actions  

Random thoughts from the weekend.

1. I love that LF streams the SEC games over the internet. But I’d rather watch the commercials or poke my eyes out than hear that FUCKING MUSIC they play during commercial breaks one more time.

2. I don’t care if there is a 60 mph wind in your face, with a side of hail, sleet, and frogs falling from the sky, when you have a 41 yarder to win the game on 4th down, you try it. In a word. IN-FUCKING-COMPETENT. And, go Navy.

3. Kansas -19 was probably my best wager this season. 1 billion cocktails to Bill Callahan! In a word. IN-FUCKING-EPT.

by Brian O'Blivion on Nov 5, 2007 11:54 AM EST reply actions  

Darren McFadden just ran by my office. And we thought Forrest Gump was something, huh!

by ChickensRule on Nov 5, 2007 12:08 PM EST reply actions  

Edsall is God: Enjoy it while you can because if I am a AD at a big time school and I need a coach, Edsall may be my man. If the rumors turn out to be true and Tuberville goes to TAM, I hope Edsall gets an interview. Can UCONN afford to play in the with the big boys in terms of coaching salaries?

by TIGERinATL on Nov 5, 2007 12:22 PM EST reply actions  

47 – Depends on which big boy we’re talking about. His name has come up at Georgia Tech (he coached there) and Syracuse (an alum) but I think UConn has the money to compete with those guys. But if Auburn or Nebraska or someone like that came calling, yikes. UConn could pay him…but then Calhoun and Geno (chick coach) would get all pissy he was making more.

Connecticut is already the most taxed state in the union. Why not an Edsall tax? I’d gladly pay.

by Edsall is God on Nov 5, 2007 12:45 PM EST reply actions  

Seeing Eye You bowl eligible made me almost as happy as Miami beating Buffalo to take the driver’s seat in the MAC East.

Somewhere, Coach Hep is smiling.

by Chuck on Nov 5, 2007 12:50 PM EST reply actions  

7) Did you ever watch Emmitt play in college? He dominated for a probation laden team that could not throw the ball his last 3 years. In three years he set 58 school records rushing for 3,928 yards, scoring 36 touchdowns and earning SEC Player of the Year honors. While that pales in comparison to Hershell’s stats, it is comparable to what Bo Jackson did in his 4 years at Auburn and what McFadden is doing in his 3 years with Arkansas.

I saw every game that Emmitt played in college, he was phenomenal.

by Kerwin4two on Nov 5, 2007 12:56 PM EST reply actions  

Update: Kansas just scored again.

by NewAZTiger on Nov 5, 2007 1:06 PM EST reply actions  

Edsall, as a rule of thumb, no basketball coach should EVER make as much money as their school’s football coach. If a freaking women’s coach makes more, then that is just fucking pathetic. In fact, men’s and women’s basketball coaches’ combined salaries should be less than the football coach’s. Just sayin.

So that said, say goodbye to Mr. Edsall after your bowl game.

by TIGERinATL on Nov 5, 2007 1:10 PM EST reply actions  

Scalz – Pretty sure you mean he ran down Ringer (on the play at the end of the 3rd quarter). Caulcrick isn’t going to outrun many people, he’s just going to run them over if they try to get in his way.

by SpartanDan on Nov 5, 2007 1:10 PM EST reply actions  

Edsall,

WVU has been to 4 straight New Year’s Day bowl games (won the last 2) and won or shared a piece of the Big East conference championship 4 out of the last 5 years. Also, WVU is in the top 15 for all-time college football wins. WVU’s only loss on the road to USF without Pat White in a game where they out-gained USF is not nearly as “bad” as losing to Stanford at home at night. Still scratching my head on how USC didn’t fall out of the Top 20.

UConn should have lost to Temple upon further review.

I’ll be the first to admit that WVU really doesn’t have a marquee win and the CPU avg of 12 illustrates that. However, you can’t ignore the fact that WVU’s offense is ranked 13th and the defense is ranked 4th. They are crushing everyone and playing very well. 2 of the best players in the country at their respective positions in Pat White and Steve Slaton are hard to ignore, too.

WVU ranked 7th or 6th is probably right. They are getting just the right amount of respect.

by TC#27 on Nov 5, 2007 1:16 PM EST reply actions  

Dan – you’re right. I was wrong. Good catch.
Pretty amazing feat, actually, Crable started on the otherside of the field and ran him down from behind, not an angle.

by Scalz1 on Nov 5, 2007 1:28 PM EST reply actions  

re: UCONN should have lost to Temple on further review.
Don’t forget the bs “fair catch” against Louisville either. The Big East officially apologized for the error. Doesn’t help anything, but Edsall, you may want to choke it off a wee bit.

by jon on Nov 5, 2007 1:31 PM EST reply actions  

54 – Wrong. UConn shouldn’t have lost to Temple because the player was bobbling the ball. A local camera crew caught the right angle of it. Fuck ESPN for perpeuating such a stupid wrong on a national level. In terms of respect, West Virginia is always held up as the Big East’s standard-bearer because of that one Sugar Bowl win. They were a disappointment last year. They should never have lost to USF, White or no White, and they did because they made too many mistakes. Their schedule has been just as bad as UConn’s. And give me a break on their defense, again, what team have they played with an offense? I think Louisville is winning Thursday night.

Edsall makes the exact same amount as Calhoun, who has won two national titles. He will be in for a raise. I just don’t think our basketball state is prepared for it.

by Edsall is God on Nov 5, 2007 1:34 PM EST reply actions  

56 -

if anything, the B.E. officals have been gawd awful for as long as I can remember.

by TC#27 on Nov 5, 2007 1:34 PM EST reply actions  

  1. - Edsall
    What is the right angle ? The one that supports your argument? What about the other 3 angles that don’t ?

by Scalz1 on Nov 5, 2007 1:38 PM EST reply actions  

UConn was down 17-7 with 10 minutes to go and beat Louisville. The fair catch happened with 29 minutes left to go in the game. Give me a break. If you only watch ESPN or read non-Stewart Mandel columnists, you’d think UConn cheated in all their games and only wins because it rains. Why not give the team some gd respect? It’s frustrating the fuck out of me.

by Edsall is God on Nov 5, 2007 1:38 PM EST reply actions  

59 – the other angles just show the guys feet in bounds, you don’t see the ball. He was bobbling it. That’s how it was called on the field, that’s why it wasn’t overturned. there was no question his foot was inbounds but it doesn’t matter if he doesn’t have possession. If the ESPN regional crew had a good angle, this wouldn’t be an issue.

by Edsall is God on Nov 5, 2007 1:40 PM EST reply actions  

Edsall,

WVU is 4th in total defense. When you have better players than the other team, that’s what happens.

The number don’t lie.

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/2007/Internet/ranking_summary/2007000000768.HTML

I think UL will test WVU, but they will do so playing from behind. WVU’s rushing offense (#3 nationally) vs. UL’s rush defense (#61 nationally) means UL’s offense will be watching for most of the game.
WVU, 45-24.

by TC#27 on Nov 5, 2007 1:47 PM EST reply actions  

It doesn’t matter if he had possession ?
Ummm ……

by Scalz1 on Nov 5, 2007 1:48 PM EST reply actions  

63 – I meant it doesn’t matter if his foot was inbounds because he DIDN’T have possession.

by Edsall is God on Nov 5, 2007 1:57 PM EST reply actions  

Edsall,

if WVU and UConn meet without any further loses, I think it will be a very exciting, hard-hitting college football game. Very good for TV and for the Big East.

by TC#27 on Nov 5, 2007 2:11 PM EST reply actions  

So where is this Zapruder film of the angle that shows he didn’t have possession? Because EVERY other angle and replay looks like a catch in bounds.

by Brian O'Blivion on Nov 5, 2007 2:14 PM EST reply actions  

67 – If the local channel had the video on their website, I’d love to show it to you. As I would love to see a video that show him catching the ball and having possession, because there’s none out there.

by Edsall is God on Nov 5, 2007 2:49 PM EST reply actions  

I found it. It’s the third search result. It’s actually a very, very slight bobble but the ball pops up when he hits the ground and he doesn’t fully have it until his foot is up in the air again. I thought it was more obvious in my delusional mind.

http://www.newschannel8.com/Global/SearchResults.asp?vendor=wss&qu=uconn+temple

by Edsall is God on Nov 5, 2007 3:03 PM EST reply actions  

Sorry, but I played that thing back 5 times, and cannot see any bobble. That’s a catch in my book and I have no interest in either team. The ESPN replays show that he got the foot down. But of course, that and $4 will get you a latte at Starbucks, so it doesn’t really matter in the grand scheme.

Uconn won, but that and the Louisville win will always be tainted by those calls. Just be glad you are on the winning end of those calls. It’s worse on the other side (see UF-FSU 2003 for reference).

by Brian O'Blivion on Nov 5, 2007 4:16 PM EST reply actions  

Will KU still make a BCS bowl if they go unbeaten but lose to OU in the B12CG? I say they deserve it over a second SEC team (unless that team is LSU, should they lose in the SECCG).

Actually, that raises a whole other question: Which BCS conferences deserve multiple BCS bids?

by PW on Nov 5, 2007 4:49 PM EST reply actions  

The very fact that Temple was that close to winning should deflate your hubris a little, sir.

The Big East is not nearly as decent as it was last year.

by Raider Red on Nov 5, 2007 4:58 PM EST reply actions  

Will KU still make a BCS bowl if they go unbeaten but lose to OU in the B12CG?

Not a chance. The at-large BCS bid is all about dollars and which team will get ratings and fill up the stadium. That’s not Kansas.

It could be Arizona State if they win out against UCLA, USC and Arizona.

It could be tOSU if they lose to UM. But that means two years in a row with two Big 10 teams in the BCS, and there would be alot of unhappy folks with that scenario.

by Brian O'Blivion on Nov 5, 2007 5:00 PM EST reply actions  

So here’s how I see it shaking out:

MNC: tOSU vs. LSU
Sugar: Hawaii vs. Oregon
Orange: BC vs. Kansas/Texas
Rose: UConn vs. USC
Fiesta: OU vs. WFV

by PW on Nov 5, 2007 5:04 PM EST reply actions  

  1. 71,

If Arizona State and Oregon both win out, Oregon gets the auto-bid as Pac-10 champ after the head to head tiebreaker. I don’t see how you deny an 11-1 Sun Devil team that only lost to a #3 Duck team that also went 11-1, but then that’s a homer pick.

by big jon 8.1 on Nov 5, 2007 5:05 PM EST reply actions  

or some combination of those teams.

by PW on Nov 5, 2007 5:08 PM EST reply actions  

I’m assuming USC beats ASU, which is the problem with projecting bowls this early…too much football left to play.

by PW on Nov 5, 2007 5:17 PM EST reply actions  

Don’t forget about Boise State. Win out and beat Hawaii at the end of the year, and I bet they get a spot (again).

  1. - the loser of WFV-UCONN is not getting a BCS bid.

by Brian O'Blivion on Nov 5, 2007 5:23 PM EST reply actions  

not even if it’s WFV?

by PW on Nov 5, 2007 5:26 PM EST reply actions  

OK, I’m seeing a lot of people picking Georgia to go to the Sugar Bowl and LSU to go to MNC. For this to happen, Georgia would not only have to get past Auburn and Kentucky, but also be handed their 3rd loss in the last game before bowl selections are announced. Would the USF&G Sugar Bowl folks still take them?

by PW on Nov 5, 2007 5:32 PM EST reply actions  

I guess I just can’t see any team from the SEC East getting a BCS bid after losing in the SECCG.

by PW on Nov 5, 2007 5:34 PM EST reply actions  

If it comes down to a bunch of teams with two losses getting an at large bid and a 1 loss Kansas, then KU has a shot. If tOSU wins out, and ASU loses once more and KU beats Mizzou, then you have that scenario. There’s alot of football left….

If it’s a choice of all two loss teams however, UCONN/WFV loser is left out. USC is still a possibility if they win out in this scenario. Beat ASU, Cal and UCLA and the BCS takes them for the monetary reasons noted earlier.

Unless LSU loses it’s only other game in the SECCG, SEC is only getting one in. The favorites to get two teams in are the PAC 10 and Big 12.

by Brian O'Blivion on Nov 5, 2007 6:06 PM EST reply actions  

PW: If Tennessee wins out, they hold tiebreaker over Georgia, thus Georgia could finish 10-2 while Tennessee gets run over by LSU in the SEC title game.

My guess is that the four at-large bids, assuming that there are no surprise auto-bids (this means LSU, BC, and OSU win out), will be:

1) a Big XII team from among Kansas, Missouri, and Oklahoma
2) a Pac-10 team (most likely AZSt)
3) the UConn-WV loser (assuming they finish 10-2)
4) Georgia if they are 10-2, otherwise probably Virginia or VT

The first two are virtual locks. If Hawaii steals a spot, Georgia would get in ahead of the UConn-WV loser. VT might as well, but Virginia probably would not.

by SpartanDan on Nov 5, 2007 7:14 PM EST reply actions  

Cristiano Ronaldo = fuckhead.

by Jack on Nov 5, 2007 8:07 PM EST reply actions  

Torches…..Pitchforks…….Villagers………Tennessee…….

What? Is FrankenManning back on campus?

by CLTDawg on Nov 5, 2007 9:31 PM EST reply actions  

Jack: no argument there. Portugal might have beaten Germany badly in the third-place game last year if Cristiano Ronaldo and his teammates weren’t too busy pretending they got shot; I counted at least four scoring opportunities they would have had if they had actually run after the ball instead of begging for a penalty kick. The Portuguese and Italian national teams are a disgrace to the game with all the flopping.

by SpartanDan on Nov 5, 2007 10:21 PM EST reply actions  

SpartanDan – the strangest thing about that World Cup was that previous champion cheats Argentina threw off the opposition by playing clean & brilliant soccer. What the hell?

by DC Trojan on Nov 5, 2007 11:09 PM EST reply actions  

PW, I’d watch out saying that BC will win the ACC. They would have to beat VT again, not to mention that Clemson is back in control of their own destiny after FSU beat BC.

by Clemson327 on Nov 5, 2007 11:48 PM EST reply actions  

well, just replace BC with one of them them

by PW on Nov 6, 2007 8:55 AM EST reply actions  

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