CURIOUS INDEX, 11/5/07
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Bill Callahan will kill you with his savage manners, son. Straight murder you, even if you are Tom Osborne. Callahan appears to storm past Osborne on the way off the field, but but the linked video must be doctored. After having 76 points scored on his defense, his ass was emitting an even larger plume of noxious gas than usual, as it was on fucking fire from being torched so epically by the Jayhawks. At this point in the season, Georgia may say Aloha to Hawaii in the Sugar Bowl. This is 2007, and we’re putting our monthly blow and video games allowance on Hawaii to cover. Why? Because we’re in a parallel world and pressing our bizarro luck ’till it squeals, and because Georgia couldn’t stop the pass-freaky Troy offense this weekend. Kentucky/Georgia is a hell of a drug in the making. Rub some dirt into that lung, son. Patrick Cowan was released from the hospital late Saturday night after the UCLA qb suffered a collapsed lung and concussion during the UCLA/Arizona game Saturday. UCLA’s down to their third string qb, who drove the Bruins for a pair of field goals and a TD before time ran out. There’s just hectares of sad in there: the brutal injury, the fact that UCLA lost to Arizona, and the fact that UCLA’s third stringer can roll in and put up 13 points in a little over a quarter on the Arizona defense. Tony Barnhardt suggests that Georgia Tech needs to be careful before firing Chan Gailey. (Six years is really where you just begin to evaluate a coach, man.) However, we do agree on one thing: they do need to be careful with Gailey’s $4 million dollar buyout, since crapping out that big a worthless pineapple of cash will leave them strapped to put up a competitive salary for a new hire. LSUFreek of TigerDroppings has the best visual summation of LSU/Bama’s rollicking game on Saturday. You could read a box score, but that has numbers and shit, and those are hard.
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LSUJoshua says:
It would be hard to play a game on the moon since because of the number of dimensions there. They have five.
Thousand.
And if you only perceive two then it sounds like a personal problem to me.
November 5th, 2007 at 5:38 pm
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OhioDawg says:
Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for the Bulldogs playing in the Sugar Bowl after the way we started, but whoever wrote the comment about the us winning out was WAAAAAAY the fuck too cavalier for me. Way to assume the close, son, but I don’t think you’ve been watching us play this year.
November 5th, 2007 at 5:42 pm
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Tater Salad says:
Josh-
Not to metion who would get TV rights to such a game? Also, I would imagine a trip to the moon might be an extra benefit.
Although you bring up a good point re the spare ribs. I sometimes wonder, if I were a hotdog, would I eat myself? Cover myself in mustard, I’d be delicious! Or, would Michael Jordan play basketball with pygmies, just so he could dunk on ‘em?
November 5th, 2007 at 5:44 pm
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Dr. Ed PHD.XYZ says:
Seems like the Bro’s from up yonder don’t want to talk about strength of schedule! Excuse me , would you pass the cupcakes.
November 5th, 2007 at 5:47 pm
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Unhappy Monkey says:
Plus, the Moon has one-third less gravity than your tuscaloosa. I don’t know if you gumps can understand that, but our vertical leap is beyond all measurement.
November 5th, 2007 at 5:58 pm
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sherlock hemlock says:
“Dr.” Ed:
Take a look at most strength of schedule calculations: tOSU comes off just fine, thanks. No way the Tigers loss to KY (Jelly) can be written off as just another example of SEC excellence. South Carolina sums it up: win some good games, lose some ugly ones. Just like every other conference.
November 5th, 2007 at 6:20 pm
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Dr. Ed PHD.XYZ says:
Gosh, it sure is fun to rattle the cages . 1 question and I’ve got people thinking of eating themselves on the moon. Reminds me of the late 60’s, mushrooms and such. Damn pygmies can shoot those 3 pointers. What’s gonna’ happen if Michael fouls out? I’ll be back……
November 5th, 2007 at 6:22 pm
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RIP Logan Young says:
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“The bar at AU is MNC.”
Whew! That’s a goodie!
Has anyone ever cleared that bar? When will you be firing Tubs?
November 5th, 2007 at 6:24 pm
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Dr. Ed PHD.XYZ says:
Sherlock, 41-14
November 5th, 2007 at 6:25 pm
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sherlock hemlock says:
Wow Ed, that’s why I put the “DR” in quotes. If that’s what passes for intelligent debate, I’ll stay away from your clinic or university.
November 5th, 2007 at 6:27 pm
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Dr. Ed PHD.XYZ says:
I thought that was fact.
November 5th, 2007 at 6:33 pm
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sherlock hemlock says:
A fact that proves exactly what about this year?
November 5th, 2007 at 6:35 pm
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Dr. Ed PHD.XYZ says:
It’s deja vu all over again.
November 5th, 2007 at 6:43 pm
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Irwin Fletcher says:
OK, Sherlock, let me hit you with some knowledge.
According to CBS SOS, tOSU has the 46th hardest SOS so far this year. Using the AP rankings, that’s the 14th hardest schedule out of the Top 25. That is light years away from the other top 3 (ORE at 2 SOS and LSU at 9 SOS). Other then being undefeated playing vastly inferior opponents (relative term), what on tOSU’s resume makes them a more deserving pick over ORE who lost to Cal by 7 and LSU who lost to KY by 6?
tOSU finishes with a Michigan team that lost to a 1AA school, the Fighting [NAME REDACTED]ers, and no championship game.
So if that’s your idea of “coming off just fine” then so be it, but don’t expect a ton of respect until your beloved Buckeyes play and beat some good competition. That cannot happen before the MNC.
November 5th, 2007 at 6:58 pm
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Digital Headbutt says:
“Tailgating at UNC??? Where – in Carrboro?”
Everyone in Carrboro thinks football is too “establishment” for them to pay attention.
November 5th, 2007 at 7:08 pm
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Dr. Ed PHD.XYZ says:
Irwin, I think Sherlock has left the building. USA Today had the Buckeyes SOS in the 60’s, I believe.
November 5th, 2007 at 7:14 pm
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Rainmaker says:
I’ve been laughing for the past 10 minutes at “the bar at AU is MNC.”
AU has won half a title and that was in 1957 while on probation.
November 5th, 2007 at 7:32 pm
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Biggus Rickus says:
I thought the bar was to finish in the top 10 and beat Alabama at least half the time and then go on probation? Oh, and fuck up Georgia’s seasons when they aren’t fucking yours up.
November 5th, 2007 at 7:39 pm
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Dr. Ed PHD.XYZ says:
Who in the hell are you to talk about probation.
November 5th, 2007 at 7:46 pm
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Crabapple Buck says:
The Buckeyes will keep winning just to piss everyone off. Its funny how when we play the toughest schedule we get blasted and when we don’t we get blasted. When Washington was scheduled they were Pac10 Champs, now they’re chumps. They were a test for USCw though, only losing by 3. Oh well. Next two years we have USCw. LA in ‘08, Columbus in ‘09. We would invite y’all up to Columbus, but you guys never leave Dixie. See ya in NOLA I guess. We’ll just play whoever shows up. Maybe we’ll get a BCS game in Cleveland or Cincinnati in January some day and we’ll see how you do away from home in cold weather.
November 5th, 2007 at 7:51 pm
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Biggus Rickus says:
Um, I think I’m a person with a reasonably functional brain, which allows me to form thoughts and express them in both written and spoken form. Yes, that sounds about right. Auburn, in case you were unaware, has been on probation more than any program in SEC history (I’m assuming Bama hasn’t caught them yet). It’s happened to Georgia once, on a fairly trivial infraction.
November 5th, 2007 at 7:56 pm
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Dr. Ed PHD.XYZ says:
Bama almost got the Death penalty last time , now they have a text book issue. I believe Au & Bama are even in the probation dept. So what’s the point ?
November 5th, 2007 at 8:06 pm
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Biggus Rickus says:
I’m pretty sure Bama is still two or three probations shy of reaching the standard set by Auburn. Not that I really care since I dislike Bama only slightly less than I dislike Auburn.
November 5th, 2007 at 8:09 pm
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sherlock hemlock says:
I logged back on for this weak shit? The strength of schedule is much better than you would know from the sniping that goes on here, and will be even better when all is said and done. “Irwins” own stats confirm that–I guarantee you that those rankings are higher than most of you would have conceded. You can see that reflected in the computers too. No one said our schedule was the toughest, but it is better than some of you witless diehards make it out to be. But you keep living under the delusion that so many SEC teams have so many losses because the conference is so much better than all the others. I guess that’s easier than admitting some of the immortal SEC favorites got waxed by teams that aren’t all that good.
November 5th, 2007 at 8:45 pm
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bamafanintigerland says:
Like Appalachian State?
November 5th, 2007 at 9:33 pm
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The Artist Formerly Known as tOSUBuckeyes says:
#78
How would I know what USC would do to LSU if they played back in 2003? The same way you and all of your SEC brethren know that Ohio State, should they get back to the MNCG and play an SEC team will get crushed. I just lowered myself and used the same logic…see how stupid it sounds.
As to the SOS argument, this year’s schedule is not that great, especially OOC. However, I will argue that Washington was a legit OOC scheduled game. They have the toughest schedule in the country, look it up, look who they have played. We got them when they were 2-0 and just off of a win over now 8-1 BSU.
I will not make excuses for Minnesota, they suck, but Minnesota = Ole Miss. I would like to point out that there are several teams in the SEC filling up on 0-9, 1-8, 2-7 teams, (North Texas, FIU, and everyone else in the sunbelt).
7-2 App State
9-0 North Dakota State
Would beat any of the following SEC OOC teams, hands down:
0-9 FIU
1-7 North Texas
1-8 Louisiana-Lafayette
3-6 Louisiana-Monroe
1-8 Western Carolina
4-6 Tenn Tech
3-6 NW State (lost to Ole Miss 31-38)
So yeah, Michigan and Minnesota lost to 2 Div 1-AA teams, but those 2 teams would easily beat any of the teams listed above, why, because they know how to win and they are obviously very well coached. No need to have 85 scholarship players if you’ve got a solid, well coached 2 deep roster and have things bounce your way.
November 5th, 2007 at 9:54 pm
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The Artist Formerly Known as tOSUBuckeyes says:
Remaining opponents:
Ohio State: 22-7 (added wisky to give tosu 3 games for comparison)
Wisconsin 7-2, Illinois 7-3, Michigan 8-2
*LSU: 12-16**
La Tech 4-5, Ole Miss 2-8, and Arkansas 6-3
Oregon: 14-14
Arizona 4-6, UCLA 5-4, and OSU 5-4
*Kansas: 15-13
OSU 5-4, ISU 2-8, and MU 8-1
*OU: 15-14
Baylor 3-7, Texas Tech 7-3, and OSU 5-4
*Have a championship game.
**Had a bye week before biggest game of the year.
November 5th, 2007 at 10:08 pm
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The Artist Formerly Known as tOSUBuckeyes says:
If you wanted to add LSU’s conference championship game opponent, with current record (probably tenn at 7-3) and look at a last four games of the season comparison for the two it would be a wash with Penn State being 7-3 as well.
Ohio State last four opponents: 29-10
LSU last 3 plus CCG opponent: 19-19
Of course, LSU’s previous schedule has been much, much harder than Ohio State’s, hence the 1 loss.
November 5th, 2007 at 10:15 pm
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bamafanintigerland says:
I agree Washington was a good OOC game for Ohio State. And Ohio State is the best at scheduling out of conference games, and Jim Tressel is probably the best coach in college football.
but uh your point is that 2 1-AA teams would beat the dregs of both 1-A and 1-AA means what exactly? The Big Ten got to feast on Notre Dame, Syracuse, Iowa State (whoops lost that one), Northern Illinois, UNLV (thankfully they scraped by), the Citadel, Florida International, and the cannibalistic MAC conference (or the Sun Belt of the North).
The SEC may not have killed every BCS conference for they have faced, but they do not have embarrassing losses like the other conferences have to “cupcakes” on their schedule.
November 5th, 2007 at 10:18 pm
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The Artist Formerly Known as tOSUBuckeyes says:
#114
I would consider 7-3 Penn State and 7-3 Wisconsin, both teams who beat SEC teams they were underdogs to last year in the bowl season, “good competition.” Wisconsin was 12-1 in 2006; Penn State was 12-1 in 2005, both with their only losses to Big Ten teams, ironically both to Michigan, a team we have owned lately.
I don’t know what kind of value you place on playing in front of 110K maniacs at night, but in terms of being in a hostile environment and dealing with extreme crowd noise, you would be hard pressed to find a whole lot of places tougher. Especially with that damn PA system and the craziest student section in the country. Did I mention flying beer cans?
Sure we’ll take our hit on Akron, Kent State, and Youngstown State. That is not a normal year of scheduling for Ohio State, we all know that. As I have mentioned before, I don’t see anyone else stepping up and putting together a future hone and home schedule like Ohio State.
2008/2009 USC, 10/11Miami, 12/13 VT, 14/15 Cal, and 16/17 OU.
So knock Ohio State all you want for this year’s schedule…it is a rebuilding season by the way. 2008/2009 are the real target years with Terelle Pryor and the 4 stud OL coming in this year.
November 5th, 2007 at 10:29 pm
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bamafanintigerland says:
If Missouri wins out-by beating a Kansas team that is undefeated at the time and then beating Oklahoma in conference championship. Does anyone think they have a chance at jumping to #2. They would have beaten the #3 and #4 team in the BCS. They scheduled two BCS conference opponents, a 1-AA team, and a crappy MAC team….TOSU has shown us the end game results of the other contenders ahead of Missouri. Missouri definitely finishes stronger. If they win out, with some convincing wins over Kansas and Oklahoma-and LSU/Oregon struggle in one or two games. ….
November 5th, 2007 at 10:29 pm
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The Artist Formerly Known as tOSUBuckeyes says:
I think we can agree on one thing…the 12 game schedule sucks. It shows in the ticket sales for the crap OOC games and does nothing about give us stones to throw at each other.
Drop the extra game, have the Big Ten start and end it’s season on the same weekend as the SEC and the Big 12 or at least just 1 week earlier, and every BCS big boy schedule at least 1 OOC home and home series and travel outside of your region.
Would you guys love to see Florida play in the Big House or the Shoe, or Michigan/Penn State/Wisconsin at LSU at night?
I think it would be so much better for college football as a whole. I hate these crap OOC games. I’m so glad Ohio State stepped up and put together the OOC schedule they did from now until 2016.
November 5th, 2007 at 10:34 pm
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The Artist Formerly Known as tOSUBuckeyes says:
Haven’t really thought about that, but you’re right, Mizzu, if they win out could really be in the mix. It would be interesting to see how the computers rank them. Their loss is not as bad as LSU’s.
I think it could really get crazy with all the 1 loss teams trying to get it.
What would be even crazier is if Ohio State loses. [go away bad dream, go away]…
November 5th, 2007 at 10:38 pm
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DC Trojan says:
Marcillac @ 95: don’t let traditional Cal pessimism get the better of you, that SC offense doesn’t seem to click for more than 2 quarters at the moment. However, if I was Nate Longshore I’d be working on my “running like hell for the sidelines” moves – SC’s defense seems to have started putting together complete games.
November 5th, 2007 at 10:44 pm
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marcillac says:
Trojan,
The D’s the thing.
I’m the very epitamy of optimism when it comes to Cal football. Indeed, I was confident that somehow the Bears would become good, this back in the early and mid 90s with no sane reason for such optimist, mind. Naturally I’ve enjoyed our recent success but we are, as I’m sure you’ve noticed having a bad run of form at the moment …err…month.
You’re correct of course that Longshore’s not likely to be doing a Vince Young or Tebow immitation any time soon but he’s been quite deficient in the basic drop back thing lately as well.
The outcome is a foregone conclusion and my query respecting your offense was made out of pure curiosity as to disastrous dimensions of the final score.
November 5th, 2007 at 10:58 pm
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robert says:
Damn. LSU freek makes Ryan Adams look like a shiftless layabout.
November 6th, 2007 at 12:26 am
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War Eagle says:
Can someone help that guy formerly known as tOSU get a girlfriend?
As for Auburn’s bar being MNC – y’all know what I’m saying. That’s what the program is aiming for, it’s what the fans are anticipating and we’re just a bit of luck away from it. Sort of like Florida last year. Win the SEC with no more than one loss and the MNC game is within probability.
Tubs has the program at that level, despite our rough start this year. Next year we break in a new QB, but the year after, if Burns works out, could be our year.
(Next year is Georgia’s chance to shine – they’re going to be something special I think with Moreno and Stafford and another year for their OL to gel.)
If Tubs goes to TA&M, he has to start over and it might be years before the program would be thought worthy of a top 10 ranking.
November 6th, 2007 at 7:58 am
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MiseanAuFan says:
It’s happened to Georgia once, on a fairly trivial infraction.
Georgia’s football been cited by the NCAA for major violations 4 times, Auburn 5.
https://goomer.ncaa.org/wdbctx/LSDBi/LSDBi.MajorInfPackage.MI_Search_Input?p_Cmd=Go_Search
November 6th, 2007 at 8:36 am
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MiseanAuFan says:
“Georgia’s football TEAM HAS…”
November 6th, 2007 at 8:36 am
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Biggus Rickus says:
Fair enough, though Georgia lost a few scholarships three times. Auburn was denied TV and bowl games four of their five probation periods.
November 6th, 2007 at 9:05 am
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MiseanAuFan says:
You’re right, but notice that the NCAA doesn’t give any details about the late 50’s probations for Auburn. I ‘ve heard stories (about those probations being BS), but all from pro-AU sources (a Shug Jordan bio mostly).
It is good to see that we’ve stayed out of trouble since ‘93, though.
(holds breath for another decade)
November 6th, 2007 at 9:14 am
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RIP Logan Young says:
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Get the Big and Slow 10 to add another team and a conference title game, and we have a deal.
November 6th, 2007 at 9:53 am
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Sutpen says:
#137
Georgia should surely be an improved team next season, but our schedule is absolutely brutal.
AT Arizona State, SCar, LSU, UK, AU and Florida in Jacksonville. Hosting a better Alabama team. Nonstop stretch of Tennessee – [vandy] – LSU – Florida – Kentucky – Auburn.
Should set up exactly like the scenario from Wages of Fear / Sorcerer. That schedule is sweating nitroglycerin.
November 6th, 2007 at 10:04 am
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Blue Turf says:
I’d like to personally thank tOSU for completely fucking up the psyche of the UW Huskies. Of course, I’m kidding. After tOSU beat the living hell out of Team Seattle, they pretty much shit the bed against everyone they’ve played for the rest of the year…not too sure how much Ty has to do with that, but I’m sure you Domers could help me out. You see, my Weak Ass Conference (WAC) team’s record is now 8-1. And that “1″ looks like a flaming bag of dog poo since it was to a UW team playing their asses off for the first two weeks of the season, and has since lost every game. Again, thank you tOSU. You helped punch our ticket to the Roady’s Humanitarian Bowl. THE LATERAL!!!
November 6th, 2007 at 10:41 am