#83 – I understand your bitterness, that we finally wised up to the whole Cooper fiasco. Our change for the better has completely fucked UM karma of late. I expect to feel the same as soon as Lllllloyd gets done coaching his last bowl game. This year.

No way, man. It matters. Saying only losers talk about it is a cop-out, and untrue.

Michigan let the backup backups complete a pass on the last play of a 34-10 win over Minnesota last week, and there were dozens of commenters wondering if we had been dicks.

Also, I thought what Urban Meyer didn’t exactly cover himself in dignity when he called a timeout while that Auburn kid was kicking the field goal.

That said, I don’t really have a problem with this — I think because Georgia had been living under Florida’s thumb for so long. Also, because players celebrating is fine. I never had much of a problem with Spurrier’s antics, either.

On everything else:

I’m pretty sure Michigan has a winning record against the SEC. I know we’ve beaten Florida, Alabama, Auburn, Vanderbilt and Arkansas in recent memory, along with a scorching, burning, searing loss to Tennessee.

And I’m amazed at the ability of Ohio State fans to explain away anything and everything by blaming John Cooper. I’m waiting for the Cooper Proviso to enter Ohio criminal procedure: “Not guilty by reason of John Cooper, your honor.”

Great observation on Musburger/Tressel.

Is this a correct mathematical expression?

Musburger:Tressel=Danielson:Meyer

You are asleep at the wheel my friend, for the last 100 years the Big Ten champion has played in the Rose Bowl against the Pac-10 champion. It has only been since the inception of the BCS system that the Big Ten champion has stepped outside of the Rose bowl to play other conference champions.

Ohio State has played 5 conference champions in the last ten years and we are 4-1.

As to your comment: “I wonder how many of those B10(1) bowl victories over the SEC were similar situations? I’d be willing to bet most of them. I’m too lazy to do the research, but I’m sure someone will. I would venture to say most of those games had a higher seeded B10(1) team matched up with a lower ranked SEC opponent. Check the games that were evenly matched and I’m pretty sure the SEC wins more than it loses.”

You are sadly mistaken, let me just point to the recent games, last year Tenn was ranked 17th and Penn State was unranked, Penn State won. Arkansas was the SEC runner-up last year and lost the 3rd placed Big Ten team, Wisconsin.

In 1999, Big Ten runner-up Michigan beat SEC champion Alabama, and 3rd placed Michigan State beat SEC runner-up Florida.

In 1998, Ohio State, Wisconsin, and Michigan all basically tied for the best records in the Big Ten, Wisconsin went to the Rose and beat the Pac-10 champion, Ohio State went to the Sugar and beat the Big 12 Champion, and Michigan beat 3rd placed Arkansas.

The Big Ten is 5-3 against the SEC in the last 3 bowl seasons….the Florida win, as is the case with many SEC fans, has drastically impacted your perception of what is and what isn’t.

Well that and all the SEC coaches and media heads pushing for rating from the SEC fans telling you day in and day out how great the SEC is and tough the conference is.

My advise to you is to stop being lazy and stop buying everything you hear and start analyzing things for yourself and come to your own conclusions.

I think you’re confusing Mike Patrick and Ron Franklin. The great Ron Franklin was the guy paired up with Gottfried.

I know Mike Patrick gets a lot of heat on the internets, but I think he and Blackledge make a pretty good team on Saturday nights. Not Vern and Gary good, but pretty good.

You pointed out that tosu lost to Bama in a champion vs. runner up scenario. I wonder how many of those B10(1) bowl victories over the SEC were similar situations? I’d be willing to bet most of them. I’m too lazy to do the research, but I’m sure someone will. I would venture to say most of those games had a higher seeded B10(1) team matched up with a lower ranked SEC opponent. Check the games that were evenly matched and I’m pretty sure the SEC wins more than it loses. Not that it matters for anything.

I thought it was only 3 or 4 teams in the Big Ten that have winning records agains tthe SEC. So while those 3 or 4 teams has done fairly well, the rest of the 10/11 teams doesn’t share that distinction.

Is the SEC East the Clash of the Titans or the Fellowship of the Mediocre?

We know you love UConn. But lets try to maintain a shred of objectivity here. The Big East (no, spelling it in ALL CAPS does not make it a good conference, Tranghese) has taken a step back this year. West Virginia is the only legit team this year, and they will take the football and feed it to you.

Great job on the 9-3 breakthrough year. Have fun in the International Bowl.

He also had us winning the SEC East.

I agree that the Pac-10 is idiotic for putting the ASU-Ore game primarily on FSN. However, the game is also now on ESPN Gameplan at 6:30 EST.

Bizarre that someone has to search out-of-the-way networks for the Gameday game of the week, but whatever.

Amen, Brother, and amen. Can you imagine if they had gone with Glen Mason, instead?

I don’t care what anyone on the national level says about Tressel, I love the guy as a coach and a representative of Ohio State. He’s not perfect, but he’s pretty damn good