EDSBS LIVE! THE FIFTH LIFE OF DENNIS ERICKSON EDITION.

welcome back Orson…. let the past go, look only to kicking LSU’s ass in the SEC champ game

This picture is the light to my gloomy day…. Wow that sounds gay.

Topic for discussion: The coach’s poll shows first place votes for OSU (56), BC (3), and Oregon (1), but none for LSU. Discuss in 500 words or fewer why the SEC is tough, all other conferences are shit, and how Les Miles is psychic for predicting that LSU would have a hard path to New Orleans.

just remember, Ed Orgeron could be your head coach…

that always smoothes the pain somewhat.

Where do you get a velour tracksuit like Mangino’s?

Omar the Tentmaker, obviously.

I hate to thread-jack, but in light of the recent developing story lines in the SEC, which includes Tennessee controlling its own destiny in the SEC east, I would like to offer up a little something to think about. Of course, if a picture is worth a thousand words, then a short video clip is an encyclopedia. If you don’t want to watch the whole thing, then all I ask is that you want the first 30 seconds, pause in the middle and look at the box score and the rankings of the teams, and then watch the last 45-60 seconds.

My point, it’s simple, the Florida win over Ohio State, along with the all the controversy it took to get Florida to the game, is completely and totally overvalued in the argument of conference strength, SEC speed, SEC coaching, and all the other bull shit that has contributed to Tenn, Auburn, South Carolina, and Alabama all ranked in the top 25 right now.

Florida beating Ohio State was the result of a great team putting together an excellent game plan, and executing it flawlessly. NOTHING MORE. It had nothing to do with the fact that Florida plays in the SEC and Ohio State plays in the Big Ten. It had everything to do with Florida not being respected and hearing about how great Ohio State was for 6 weeks.

There have been 9 BCS NCGs, 7 of 9 where won by the team that was given no chance to win. 7 of 9.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37lg7SXs7rY&NR=1

You think you find OSU’s season grating? Try being a Michigan fan. At least you have beaten them recently, I wish we could say the same.

Boeckman looked really poised last night in those rare instances when his OL didn’t perform well. I just didn’t think it was possible that the OSU offense would be any good this year after losing all that talent to the NFL, but they are putting up good numbers and PSU is a pretty good defense (you’ll note I didn’t use a positive adjective regarding PSU’s offense). I keep waiting for Beanie Wells’ fumbling problem from last year to resurface, but no luck to date.

I wouldn’t hold out too much hope for Wisconsin (despite Tressel’s 1-3 record against them) or Illinios winning in Columbus. We’ll do our best on the 17th to keep OSU out of the championship game, but get used to the fact that the team that played last night not only looks like they deserve to be in the championship game, but looks like they could atone for last year’s debacle.

Rece Davis called him “The Velvet Fog” last night on the wrap up show…I thought that was a very fitting title

#7

There are only 3 senior starters on the Ohio State roster, the 2008 recruiting class is already the best Tressel has ever had (3 of the top 10 OL in the country already committed, including Brewster from FL, Shugarts from TX, and Adams from OH) and Pryor, the #1 QB in the country, is a heavy, heavy tOSU lean, especially after last night, and especially in light of what Tressel has done with Boeckman and Smith.

I don’t know if anyone saw Cameron Heyward’s hit on the PSU tight end, but he absolutely crushed that guy and he’s 6’5 256lbs…That was one of the hardest hits I’ve seen all year.

–Do we have to put Ohio State first in our poll? Really?
Yes.

–Is Kansas truly good, or is Texas A&M just flatlining? And where the hell do you get a velour tracksuit in Kansas colors like Mangino’s? Christo made it, we’re guessing.
Yes, yes, and check the listings for Lawrence rug merchants.

–Is this Dennis Erickson’s cheery but rundown tavern we’re drinking in? And is it, in fact, home to the darkest of all dark horse national championship candidates, Arizona State?
Cheery wouldn’t begin to describe .23 Dennis’ sideline demeanor last night as ASU was kneeling in the last minute. He was giving roundhouse fist pumps and high fiving anyone within reach. It was the kind of spastic emotional display I would expect from El Boss Hogg.

I am aware of what OSU could bring back for 2008, and I am hoping that agents descend on Columbus like a plague of locusts before the NFL draft.

7 out of 9 WERE won, not WHERE won…

I don’t understand why noone in the Coach’s poll picked LSU. Either its a complete lack of respect for Les and Co, or a lack of respect for the back-stabbing, silly-fuck, Dostoevsky-like family that is the SEC. tOSU could be number 1, but then again they shouldn’t? WTF, mate?

“We don’t even live close to Ohio!”

-My brother in a bar last year (in Northeast Mississippi) as a section of “Ohio State fans” cheered the conveniently #1 team in the nation last year. He shouted this loudly every time they scored a touchdown and the flock of 8 or so fair weather fans cheered. It was funny.

I still think they’ll shit the bed against someone this year, but playing tough competition later in the year certainly helps.

To answer your question though Orson….No you do not sir, and that’s why we hold your poll over all others. Hell man, go all out and vote Florida #1. Fuck it, ya know?

UConn outranks Florida in the latest AP Poll. That is all.

I have UConn ranked lower since they have loss to Louisville to account for.

We just hate Ohio State…for being Ohio State.
They will be cursed to the same fate this year, being ranked #1 all year against fairweather teams, then being a 20 pt favorite in the Natl Championship game,and then, again , getting blown out by “so called” underdogs". The funniest thing I have seen on the innernets so far is when Nike put that Gator at tOSU and watching tOSU fans kick, spit and tear it apart in the low low time of 3 hrs, just about the same amount of time it took for their offense to melt down.
Of course if Alabama beats LSU, tOSU vs ASU will be a reality, maybe even BC….tOSU is evolving into the new Notre Dame…….

do you seriously think anybody would make us 20 point favorites in a NC game? unless we play BC, we’d probably be underdogs

ASU vs. OSU, seems like I remember the last time we played them, it was 1996 in the Rose Bowl, we were the underdogs, ASU was undefeated, and waiting in the wings, visor fully cocked and loaded, was Steve Spurrier and the Gators in a rematch against a team that beat them in the regular season.

We upset ASU in the Rose bowl, killing their undefeated season and National Championship, and Spurrier and the Gators romp the Noles and backdoor into the NC.

Your welcome Gator Nation.

If Tennesse wins out and plays LSU in the SEC CG, I think it crushes LSU’s odds of getting into the BCS if either BC wins out, ASU wins out, Oregon wins out, or OU wins out. Tennessee has 3 conference losses and a OOC loss to a 3 loss Cal team.

“Is this Dennis Erickson’s cheery but rundown tavern we’re drinking in? And is it, in fact, home to the darkest of all dark horse national championship candidates, Arizona State?”

YOU’RE DAMN RIGHT IT IS!!! :) It’s Dennis’ party and he needs somebody to hold his ankles for the kegstands!

In search of who might have the worst case of transitive herpes I offer up the following:

It starts with 1-7 Notre Dame and goes something like this:

UCLA < CAL < Tenn < 3 SEC teams, Georgia, MSU, and USCe…and once in the SEC the virus goes batshit out of control with Georgia passing it to Florida, Alabama, Ole Miss, and Vandy. And by the time the virus is done, the entire conference is infected with not a single team avoiding the virus.

Now here’s the real shocker, ND is 1-7, 1-0 against the Pac 10 and 0-4 against the Big 10. This truly is an insane year of college football; does anyone thing next year will be any less crazy? I don’t.

Notre Dame is 1-1 against the Pac-10, they got shutout by USC like a week ago.

The Artist,

7 out 9 BCS Champions being given no chance to win just isn’t true. Tennessee, Florida State, Miami and USC were all the Vegas favorites in their respective BCS championship years.

#17
Except OSU wins, wins most of its bowl games, and doesn’t bring up the glory of the four horsemen from 1930 something. I bet if you came to Ohio and asked OSU fans and not just some of the trailer trash in SE ohio if OSU really is the #1 team in the nation, they would answer no. I don’t believe they are, but hey, fuck it, sometimes its better to be lucky than good. Eventually that luck may run out, but until it does….why should we care.
Come up with some reasons that they shouldn’t be number one other than their supposedly horrid SOS to date.

@17
tOSU is evolving into the new Notre Dame

whoa whoa whoa…. ok, I agree that tOSU fans can be mroe than a tad douchy. I agree that there are some things about their rabid fan base that make even me blush (“Buckeye Fan” video, Buckstache meme, the list goes on and on)… but comparing us to Notre Dame?!?!?

That just hurts. I really wish you would think before you say such hurtful words… words that can not be taken back. I hope next time you think these thoughts you think about a buckeye fan near you and think of their feelings.

snicker Just kidding. Florida still sucks.

@#22:
I see your UCLA herpes and raise it to UT-Chattanooga, a 2-6 D-1AA team. This obviously provides a few more places to extend the strain, but I don’t think you’ll find anyone much worse than the Mocs.

UTC beat Georgia Southern, who beat App St, who beat Michigan, who beat Notre Dame, and so on.

Nah, based on last week’s logic here’s what you do:

Drop tOSU to 15th for winning convincingly.

Jump Oregon to Number 1 (because it is not tOSU and it did beat a USC team that, well, would still kick the crap out of Florida)

Conveniently ignore the over-all shitty nature of the overhyped SEC this year, and, following the national polls, rank 4 three-loss SEC teams in the top 25.

It’s not that Florida lost to an underachieving arch-rival that is so disturbing. The real shocker is that Georgia’s classless throwing down of the gauntlet on that gaudy touchdown cluster fuck was met with nothing but a limp-wristed, sore-shouldered man tear.

Seriously, what will it take for Florida to drop out of the top 20?

Something like Orson said yesterday but apply it to BC. Oh, and Fuck’em.

SEC is down this year no question about, ’cept Big Televen is still loosing ground.

Oh, and did I mention Fuck BC.

Think about this:
What sort of playoff would work in this years batshit crazy outcome? How would it work when there are conferences that dont have Championship games already? A 16 team round robin Double-elimination tournament? Or would it run purely off the BCS and the top 4 teams, from whatever conference, just play their bowl games and see who the best 2 teams are?

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I like my women loose, not my ground. Nevertheless, the gap between the Big X and the SEC is not nearly as wide as you need it to be to justify the kind of play we have seen from the might SouthEasternConference.

A true determination should be the good ol’ double header. The top 4 teams pair off and play at 11:30 am, then the winners of each game play again in the same day at 7:30, injuries and fans be damned. This would really test the depth and wits of each team….conceivably could have both teams 3rd string QB starting in the final game, to see who has had the best recruiting classes last yr… a BCS won on the recruiting trail

Oh and Orson,

No obligation to put tOSU number 1. Wait for LSU to loose and perhaps for tOSU to win out including a 2TD+ win over a healthy Michigan.

And don’t even begin to contemplate putting BC (fuck them) in the top 4 or maybe even top 6.

“dish ish beautiful…what ish dat velvet??”

29/30

You are absolutely right – the SEC is down this year.

BC, on the otherhand, is going 13-0 and will be playing we-don’t-give-a-shit in New Orleans.

Oh, I forgot to mention. STFU.

#27

I’ll be wearing a condom while watching The Game on the 17th. Just like shitting in coolers; while you guys are cramming into infested public restrooms, I’m dropping bombs with the carefree ease of a toddler into my cooler. Why take the risk? Same reason I will be wearing a condom all day long on the 17th.

TAFKAtOSU,

Okay, just to shut you up, Ohio State is good and in this merry-go-round season, they can have their spin at #1. And with their schedule they have a good shot at the MNC. They defense is great and their offense is solid enough. But I am still dubious of the rest of the Big Televen.

Cal completely blew that game against the Flaming Ericksons. ASU had -1 yards near the end of the first half and Cal didn’t capitalize.

The USA Today/Coaches’ poll is complete crap and has been most of the year. It seems like the old power schools all got together after Boise St beat OU last year and decided they would never vote for any non-BCS school so there would be no way any of them would ever be embarrassed like that again.
Do you really think that Texas is the 12th best team in the nation? They have struggled with just about everyone they have played except Rice.
Is UGA a number 10 team? No. I say that as a Georgia fan and alum. If we had beat South Carolina or showed up in Knoxville, then yeah, we would probably be a top 10 team, but beating the Gators doesn’t mean we are a top ten 10 team.
Wisconsin 19, UConn 20? It doesn’t make any sense.

Further proof that it is all a sham (like wrestling or the NBA):

Texas is 14th in the AP, 12th in the USA/Coaches and 11th in the Harris.

UGA is 10th in both the AP & USA/Coaches, but 12th in the Harris.

All you can hope to do is win your conference and the TV execs & bowls think they can make money off you.

Well, lets focus on the next week of games since these are in the past…
Ala vs LSU…..hell Kentucky got Croomed in a big way, why not Les Miles getting Sabanized? I think this game will be brutal on many levels,so many story lines, bad blood and hurt feelings, and if LSU lets Alabama hang around like Ky, it could have the same result, and Alabama fans will be really rabid, batshit crazy to beat Auburn even more….on the flip side, if Alabamas QB and offense come out flat like they did against GA, LSU will simply eventually run thru Alabamas defense, just like GA did @ Fla. and run up the score at will…. How do you stop that runaway train downhill with no brakes?
Now all teams are at that brutal meat of the schedule at the end of the year, now its just a war of attrition, and Alabama can really screw it up for LSU, which would effectively relegate all the SEC team, even the Croomster, to some forgotten bowls…As an Alabama fan, I think LSU is beatable,no doubt, but I think they are the most depth-talented team in the SEC, and the luckiest via skill, and a maniacal genius Coach in some twisted way. One part of me wants Alabama to win, and another part of me wants to give LSU a chance to kill some out of league team in the BCS Championship, whoever that may be. But, the way this yr has turned out in our Schizophrenic Conference, I think Alabama has a chance to pull it off and hope it does come down to a gamble and Les Miles craps out…BCS Championship be damned, he should have been there last year with all the talent he left on the field that went pro this year…..

God I love that Erickson picture beyond words. That’s really all I have to say.

….Although as an Oregon State fan, I wonder when ASU’s players will begin to be called “Junior College Thugs” (TM Notre Dame).

#39

I would take a LSU loss if we just beat freaking Auburn.

I have no idea about the game this weekend, if LSU sticks to the power running game-the game might get ugly….

Dan: Watch the proliferation of two-foot hanging belt ends on ASU players. It’s not far away.

Will the SEC send 2 teams to BCS bowls? If so, who? Assuming LSU wins the SECCG, who gets the other bid? You can’t give it to the loser of the SECCG because they’ll have at least 3, and possibly 4 losses. Do you give it to another team from the East or do you give it to a team from the west, maybe the Iron Bowl winner?

Of course, if LSU loses the SECCG, then obviously the winner will get an automatic bid and I could see a 2-loss LSU getting an invitation to another one. But what about a 3-loss LSU (if Bama or Ark trips them up)?

I think we need more indignant and lengthy comments from The Artist Formerly Known as tOSU Buckeyes about the wonder that is The God Damned One and Only Indisputably Ohio State University and the dearth of quality in the SEC. I find those incredibly interesting.

Brevity is indeed the soul of wit, Biggus, and I think you summed up the state of things quite nicely!

PW,

If Tennessee and Georgia win out there’s an outside shot that Georgia could get one, but I seriously doubt it unless a lot of other teams lose. I also seriously doubt either Georgia or Tennessee will win out.

Hey Macillac: Let me gues, Notre Dame fan? Or even better, UConn fan?

Keep on hating, we’ll keep on winning.

the artist known as the prince needs to quit spewin’ his baseless facts and actually research the shit hes postin on the board

PW,
cart before the horse

Meet your bartender:

We’re in ur pollz, makin’ a ruckus

And btw, ASU’s penalties are down from last year having led the Pac-10 in 2005 and 2006 under “disciplinarian”/control freak Dirk Koetter. I guess we’ll get the JuCo thug label when whip Notre Dame in a bowl game. They’re already eligible, right?

tOSU’s schedule might be a turd but at least they’re wiping it clean… with only the whispiest of hershey squirts being a clueless first half against Akron and a “who cares?” performance against the Penguins.

Michigan and USC both dropped the Poop That Ate The BCS Championship, against teams that were no better than Akron or only marginaly better than YSU.

So despite being demonstrably worse than a school that has lost to both Wofford and Georgia Southern, Michigan is gifted with a place in the top 25, along with a Southern Cal team that is undiciplined to the point of failing to get past Stanford’s third string QB, played like shit against Washington and just got depantsed by Dennis Erickson. That’s the real crime; nevermind tOSU’s chowing down on cupcakes on the way to #1.

A&M has three bye weeks (at OU, MU, and Bye) before the tsips come to town. Out of the bye weeks, I expect that the only success will be a 0-0 tie against Bye, the other two will be similar to 77-0 shellings. And no, I don’t expect them to go our way.

I’ll probably need to borrow your Florida rant. I’ll just have to substitute “A&M” and “Aggies” for “Florida” and “Gators”, then sub in “Oklahoma” or “Missouri” and “Sooners” or “Tigers” for “Georgia” and “Dawgs”.

Excelsior!

eric y says excelsior be damned and stop talking about the sec because whtilow says that south eastern colorado is really not having such a bad year and if kansas were to get involved like they hope to next year in the sec thing then indeed whitlow will have made his point and tell sammie that jay whitlow is always right and that goes for your take on the sec thing as well and what else can i do because if i don’t i don’t know what will happen to the sec and jay whitlow is a huge fan of sout east colorado and also of south west kansas

51: I want some of whatever you are on.

I think he’s defending the SEC. Can I make a joke about academics, or would that just be cruel?

Im an ASU student and we are already a bunch of JuCo thugs. On the bye week about a block from the stadium I saw Justin Tryon get out of his car(with a bunch of other players in the bed of his truck) and walk into the middle of the intersection and yell things. Its made my proud and scared to be a sundevil. Man that guy has a alot of tattoos.

“I hate to thread-jack”
-TAFKAOSU, comment #6

yeah I call bullshit on that

Oh, please. We know every other thread turns into SEC vs. Big Ten.

Auburn! Alabama! One or both suck!

There, that should return us to normalcy.

Christo used less material on the Reichstag.

The way this season is going, Alabama should just claim another MNC.

I heard two guys on a local talk radio show in the south talking about how impressive it was that 10-11 SEC teams are going to be bowl eligable…“see that just shows you how tough this conference is and how deep it is, you have to come to play every week because every week you are facing a bowl team.”

Did these clowns not get the new 12 game schedule memo? Guys, you only need 6 wins out of 12 to be eligable. So for teams like Arkansas who are 5-3 with wins over 1-7 North Texas, 0-8 FIU, 2-6 UTC, 1-7 Ole Miss, and 6-2 Troy, they are 1 win away from getting to a bowl game. That is a combined record of 10-30.

It’s not rocket science. You win 4 OOC games against teams 9-23, beat the worst team in your conference and then all you have to do is win one more game and you are in.

Impressive, truly impressive. That definitely proves how tough this conference is, why it is so dominate, and how you have to come every week with your A game…because you face a bowl team every week.

+100 Cocktails to Biggus Rickus and fotodawg…they’re on point like a UT kicker’s “do-over.”

type ‘honk tebow’ in ebay search. i don’t think you will like the result.

obtw, my conference can kick your dad’s conference’s ass. touch black no trade back and no erasies.

1. - I like the way you think. I’ll contact Mal and see if we can get that done. That should give us about 10 NC’s.

On paper, we lose to LSU 10 out of 10 times. However, paper be damned! They come to T-town where that crazy bastard with the tats and kilt will be lurking in the bushes where he will remove Miles’ hat and reveal…..nuthin.

I don’t think anyone can predict what will happen in this game since there has been no game to go as expected. Maybe our entire student section can run out on the field and celebrate a 1st quarted TD by Terry Grant. I’m afraid Richt has started an annoying trend.

Scary thought…Croom could go 8-4. Bammer & The Orgeron at home & on the road at UPig.

Frankly, I don’t think we’re quite that good. Yes, we outplayed UK decisively, but they were pretty beat up mentally & physically after LSD & the Gayters. 6 TOs & two 4th down stops inside our 10 in the second half tell that story.

The simple fact is that top to bottom, the SEC is a tougher, more physical league week in and out than any other conference. Even The Orgeron played Aubarn, Florida & Bammer tough.

10 NC’s? Meant to type 100. Early.

which doesn’t explain #65 how you got killed by the Mountaineers 38-13 and it wasn’t that close.

#65

You should revisit Tony Hunt’s comments regarding the topic you bring up, see the link in post #6 and watch the entire video.

#65

I guess that is why you guys take a bye week before your biggest game on the schedule.

When is everyone going to wake up to the fact that all the clamoring from the coaches about how tough the SEC is and how deep it is, blah, blah, blah, is just a tool they use to help minimize the devastating impact of a loss. They have brain-washed the entire fan base into believing that conference losses are okay, and really just a part of life in the SEC.

Look, i don’t know about depth or what not….I do know this: The southern united states has better athletes(especially football wise) than the rest of the country, so it only stands to reason that a perceived great team could lose to a perceived bad team that has good talent and happens to put it together for one game. Does that make me feel better when we struggle against Ole Miss, lose to MSU, etc? No. It feels like shit…probably the same as it feels for USC to lose to Stanford(even though the talent isn’t comparable). The only way to settle this is to have a true “SEC vs Pac 10” or “Big 10 vs ACC” face off thing like they do in some basketball situations. Make the first four weeks OOC games with match ups like that and the rest of the weeks can be conference games. It would be interesting, that’s for sure.

My ‘southern united states has better athletes, especially football wise’ argument is based on recruitment, NFL numbers, etc…and the fact that football is king in the south where as basketball is at least a rival up north, added to the fact that poverty rates in the south as compared to the north make kids want to play football instead of video games(plus weather, etc)

1. - When you say “brainwashed”, do you mean brainwashed like the mob of white trash surrounding the ’Shoe on game days, or what? Please explain.

Point blank…our thug brothas down south are better ballers than the educated brothas up north. Faster, harder hitting, ruthless, nasty on and off the field, thus more arrest. You guys raise show horses and we raise bucking bronco’s that have to be corralled,even tasered, every now and again….Nuff Said

1. - what? When did Bama lost to WVU 38-13? I don’t seem to recall that.

1. - what? When did Bama lose to WVU 38-13? I don’t seem to recall that.

Enjoy poodles. Thank god Gator Nation only has to stomach this once every 10 years.Knew sooner or later we would be on the short end of the stick on injuries to starters.Whats up with the OSU fans on this blog? They should run at first sight from anything that says Gators on it. Guess they couldn’t do shit on the field so they wanna talk on the internet.

P.S. to OSU fans. Join the SEC and then see how many NC’s you make it to.