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BLOGPOLL, WEEK NINE: SEC KILLING FLOOR

The Blogpoll goes wacky and unapologetic this week. Given a season with a total lack of reason, we commit ourselves to the asylum of just trying to put the best teams based on what we've seen--a mad idea given the nostrums of "the tyranny of the undefeated" that rules most polling, including many of our own ballots. (It's like that damned "tyranny of the outrageously attractive and well-hung" that keeps us manning the blender at orgies instead of grunt-getting in style with our fifty year old neighbors!)

Anyway--the ballot for this week, which you already hate nearly as much as we do.

Rank Team Delta
1 LSU 3
2 Oregon 12
3 Oklahoma 1
4 Arizona State 5
5 Missouri 7
6 Ohio State 5
7 Boston College 1
8 South Florida 5
9 Kansas 1
10 Florida 6
11 Texas --
12 West Virginia 8
13 Southern Cal 2
14 Penn State 3
15 Virginia Tech 8
16 Kentucky 9
17 Texas Tech 2
18 UCLA 8
19 Virginia 7
20 Connecticut 6
21 Alabama 5
22 Cincinnati 14
23 California 10
24 Hawaii --
25 Illinois 3

Dropped Out: South Carolina (#5), Auburn (#18), Tennessee (#21), Wisconsin (#25).

Notes, apologies, and upraised middle fingers in defense of the indefensible.

LSU's the best team in the country, and they're number one by margins based on what we've seen on the field versus quality competition. Their only defeat came in triple overtime to the best quarterback in the country. They've got two quarterbacks capable of wrecking defenses. Their defensive line is now so dangerous opponents have resorted to chop-blocking them, albeit in completely unintentional ways. (cough) Early Doucet has returned to the wideout corps, they've got a power back, a neutrino-fast speed back, and two combo running backs who can destroy games singlehandedly. The defense is vulnerable only in the sense that they're too aggressive, and thus exploitable on the boots, screens, and quick stuff Auburn and Florida got them on, but that's a fault you'll take--especially in a prospective title matchup with lead-footed Todd Boeckman and Ohio State.

We can't sell you on it if you aren't already sold, since this seems to be an article of faith, not an evidence-based decision for most. But just imagine if, in 2007 alone, you had this bag of exploding hammers at your disposal and the call comes down to who'll put the game on the line in the ballsiest way imaginable. We think we've come up with the magic bullet to describe Les Miles thus far: he's got the tools to back up his balls at this point at LSU, and the right Dr. Weird-type in the booth (Gary Crowton) to pull it off this season if the offense needs to score to win. The will is his, and the design is Crowton's. It's a better match than we could have imagined.

Ohio State! Fuck you it's Ohio State! It could be, provided they beat Penn State this weekend. To this point, though, we imagine LSU getting on the field carrying a spice rack and a turkey baster with Ohio State. The fricassee would be on like Donkey Kong.

And if this were Florida, Alabama, or Auburn in the same position, we'd do the same. See the fact we axed three SEC teams from the poll this week for sucking. Note: not for competing in "THE TOUGHEST CONFERENCE IN THE LAND" [/merrill hoge], but for s-u-c-k-i-n-g and l-o-s-i-n-g.

The remaining? Bafflement. Oregon's an amazing football team with a stout resume. If he played in the Midwest or the South, Dennis Dixon would have children and bouncing happy babies named after him right now. Missouri is Gary Pinkel's first team not wilting through the late season. Kansas has left the state once, and pays for it thusly. (It's not an insult--it's waiting for proof!) UCLA, now entering our poll again, will surely exit it with an inconsistent, strange, and eye-gouging loss this weekend. They're the Iggy Pop of college football: rich and famous, then homeless in Haiti, then rich and famous, then homeless in Detroit, then rich and famous again.

Dropped: Auburn, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Wisconsin, all for being squirrelly, inconsistent, gifted and maddening. If they were people, we'd call them family! Being football teams, we just call them unranked.

Hawaii has started charging rent in the low twenties, and plans to flip it for a nicer spot in the high teens by the end of the season. You should see what they've done to the kitchen: butcher block countertops, recessed lighting, a huge new SubZero refrigerator. Even in this market, it's a sure sell.

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So, Penn State and Illinois are both in, but Michigan, who beat both teams, still isn’t ranked.

Can these D-IAA herpes never be washed clean?

by Anon on Oct 24, 2007 10:41 AM EDT reply actions  

It takes a while to wash those off.

Actually, that’s probably the grossest error in this poll, since Michigan could just as well be in that Illini spot, and Oregon derives some of its clout from the thunderous win at Michigan.

We plead incompetence. But you already knew that.

by Orson Swindle on Oct 24, 2007 10:45 AM EDT reply actions  

As long as Les Miles is LSU coach, they will lose at least one more, probably ’Bama &/or UF in the SECCG. Then its off to Ann Arbor to continue losing to our beloved sweatervested one. If Mike VI gets loose and eats a certain ill-fitting hatted coach, then they may sneak thru w/o a blemish until tOSU puts them to sleep in NOLA.

by Crabapple Buck on Oct 24, 2007 10:47 AM EDT reply actions  

bama’s ranked but auburn isn’t?!? bear bryant’s a dead drunk!! nick saban’s a fucking liar!! auburn fans and players are illiterate!! tuberville is an asshole with big ears. etc, etc, etc.

by gerry dorsey on Oct 24, 2007 10:50 AM EDT reply actions  

The distance between LSU, Florida, KY, & AUburn is the combined diameter of Les’ onions.

As for the Buckeyes, well, you guys are in a conference with Michigan, Illinois, and Northwestern, for chrissakes. You might as well have Jenn Sterger as a fan.

by Southern Papa on Oct 24, 2007 10:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Early season TOs in games we should have easily won are killing us. Damn you Brandon Cox. If it takes you four weeks to sprout a dick, the fact that it’s big enough to win in the swamp, slaughter an improving Vandy, keep the ball away from McFadden to beat the Hogs, and take LSU to the last second, doesn’t change the fact that for three weeks you had a vagina.

by TIGERinATL on Oct 24, 2007 11:00 AM EDT reply actions  

“The fricassee would be on like Donkey Kong”

Orson have we taught you nothing? When it comes to Turkey, its deep fried or its nothing!

by Billy in Baton Rouge on Oct 24, 2007 11:01 AM EDT reply actions  

SMQ went #13, you omitting bastard…

Not even a token #23 the week before the game? Is this what irrelevance feels like?

by Bobby Decatur on Oct 24, 2007 11:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Billy—we just wanted to use the word “fricassee.”

by Orson Swindle on Oct 24, 2007 11:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Can someone explain why it’s THE Ohio State University? As opposed to AN Ohio State University? Would the students be confused and report to another campus by mistake?

by Techie on Oct 24, 2007 11:04 AM EDT reply actions  

  1. - Yes. They’re from Ohio.

by TIGERinATL on Oct 24, 2007 11:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Its to keep everyones panties in a wad.

by Crabapple Buck on Oct 24, 2007 11:11 AM EDT reply actions  

  1. 10 – A matter of arrogance and hype pushed down the gullet by asshat alumnus and ESPN-type broadcasters.

In a similar vein, I will be eating at THE Applebees and having THE gin & tonic special. I will then go home to THE bed and sleep THE sleep of THE just/

by The Bull-Gator on Oct 24, 2007 11:19 AM EDT reply actions  

…then they [LSU] may sneak thru w/o a blemish until tOSU puts them to sleep in NOLA.

Right…

You should really be able to name just one SEC team that tOSU has ever “put to sleep” before you predict a win over ’07 LSU.

by Rival on Oct 24, 2007 11:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Poll ballot subject to change.

by Dawgy on Oct 24, 2007 11:22 AM EDT reply actions  

#10

It’s the mullets.

by bitterhorn on Oct 24, 2007 11:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Maybe it really is the only university in Ohio. I mean, how many of those ass-faced animals could go to college, even a dumb-downed one, anyway?

by Dave on Oct 24, 2007 11:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Orson, I love the shit you write, but this poll has taken on the smell of a list of “people I like this week” made up by a 12-yr old girl

did someone from South Carolina say you wear funny shoes ?

by Futbawl Fan on Oct 24, 2007 11:33 AM EDT reply actions  

#17, if it were the only university in ohio, then tOSU would have only played like twice this season. tOSU STATE CHAMPS!!!

by john on Oct 24, 2007 11:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Tennesse, WVU and Kentucky are Appalachian state universities, but they are not The Appalachian State University. HTH

by Bozo The Fan on Oct 24, 2007 11:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Carolina drops out for being inconsistent and UCLA moves back in for the same reason, Oregon “amazingly” lost to the only ranked opponent they played this year (albeit barely, but its still an L…against Cal) and moves up to 2, and every team that dropped out could beat Virginia by 2 touchdowns. I’m baffled.

by McGavin on Oct 24, 2007 11:36 AM EDT reply actions  

i’m sorry, how many points has gorilla w/ chainsaw penis given up in the last three games?

by bup bup bup on Oct 24, 2007 11:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Who am I to judge another man’s blogpoll? I doubt I could put together a list of 25 teams in an order that wouldn’t have at least a few people scratching their heads. I am surprised to see USF still in the top 10; I thought Rutgers did a pretty good job of exposing their offense and running the ball down their throat.

I’m not going to sit here and try and defend the Buckeyes…the only defense for the Buckeyes is a NC win over an SEC team, and even then I still think we’ll have a scarlet O on our sweatervests until we beat more than 1 SEC team for a NC.

However, I will say this, the defense is better this year, much better. Last year we replaced 9 starters on defense and this year we only had to replace a couple and it really shows. I’m afraid this year’s offense is last year’s defense though and it will not be able to handle a top notch defense…my only hope is that defense wins championships and unlike last year when we had to rely on the offense to win the NC for us (minus TG2), maybe this year we can hang our hat on the defense.

This defense is much better than the 2002 version, for what it’s worth.

by The Artist Formerly Known as tOSUBuckeyes on Oct 24, 2007 11:42 AM EDT reply actions  

The Ohio State defense is scary good right now-all the hype given to LSU’s defense earlier this season needs to be transfered to Ohio State’s defense. And I am pretty sure they will face another offense before the season is over.

by bamafanintigerland on Oct 24, 2007 11:45 AM EDT reply actions  

“[Les Miles has] the right Dr. Weird-type in the booth (Gary Crowton) to pull it off this season if the offense needs to score to win.”

GENTLEMEN, BEHOLD! A WEREWOLF, with a CHAINSAW for a DICK!

by Seven Years in Gainesville on Oct 24, 2007 11:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Michigan left out… fine.. herpes… texas tech up 2 after a ugly loss to the first competition they face… weird….texas @ 11? is this turning into a big12 blog?

by formerlyanonymous on Oct 24, 2007 11:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Orson -

Peter is asking for specifics on Michigan v. Texas rankings.

Care to contribute?

http://www.burntorangenation.com/story/2007/10/23/175330/61

by maskedavenger on Oct 24, 2007 11:46 AM EDT reply actions  

I still can’t get over that Kansas is ranked ahead of USC in any poll related to football…They rightfully should be, but still, its fucking Kansas.

by dudis41 on Oct 24, 2007 11:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Orson, I love the shit you write, but this poll has taken on the smell of a list of "people I like this week" made up by a 12-yr old girl

No better description of a college football poll can be found anywhere on the planet, sir.

by Orson Swindle on Oct 24, 2007 11:58 AM EDT reply actions  

I’m sitting here wondering what is worse: homeless in Haiti, or homeless in Detroit?

by spartymike on Oct 24, 2007 12:01 PM EDT reply actions  

we deserve to be dropped out, after that performance against Vandy.

However, if we win AT UT this weekend then we should be brought back up to around #15 or so at 7-2.

by cockengr on Oct 24, 2007 12:06 PM EDT reply actions  

C’mon guys…… how the hell can LSU be #1 in your poll….. they have one loss….they almost have 2….give me a break…..

by Mitch G. on Oct 24, 2007 12:09 PM EDT reply actions  

TT, standing on the sideline with his arms crossed, looking just like John Kreese. Motioning over to his linemen, whispering in his ear, “Sweep the Leg”. I love it. I hope we come out wearing sketeton costumes for the Ole Miss Game.
So does this make Saban Mr. Miyagi, and JPWilson Danielson?

Put em in a Body Bag Ziemba! Yeahhhh!

by Shawshank Sisters on Oct 24, 2007 12:19 PM EDT reply actions  

32 – UF was a cockblock away from 2 losses last year. championship teams find ways to win. thats what makes them champions.

by john on Oct 24, 2007 12:27 PM EDT reply actions  

  1. Well engineered Cock is right about where the Cocks should be ranked after losing to Vandy.

What’s up with dropping Wisky out of the rankings for crushing their opponent?

by Out of Conference on Oct 24, 2007 12:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Actually I think that’s a shockingly good poll, with the aforementioned Virginia and Michigan issues. And I think Texas is too high.

OOC, it’s because Wisconsin had no place in the poll last week, I’d wager.

by Erik on Oct 24, 2007 12:34 PM EDT reply actions  

USC at #13?

- No taking into account the injuries that reached double digits for key USC players?

- No taking into account the freaky-ness of the Stanford loss, in which Stanford converted various lucky 4th downs, down the stretch with a USC qb playing with a broken hand for the second half?

- No taking into account the historic beat-down of Notre Dame last week? (OK, I take this one back.)

by Stacy Keibler Luvs Me on Oct 24, 2007 12:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Generally not bad, but ASU at 4 and OU at 3? OU struggled against a 1-6 ISU squad this week (let me tell you how frightening that was: my girlfriend is an ISU alumnus and I told her I’d but her a new wardrobe if they won). ASU is less offensive, but the finest competition they’ve faced to date is Colorado.

Ultimately it’s irrelevant, since there are lots of games left to play, but that seems like an overly generous appraisal of how those teams stack up.

Also, no Michigan? They may not be very good, but Penn State and Illinois over UM? For shame, sir.

by Beardguy on Oct 24, 2007 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

#36
 After losing to Stanford, you should be grateful to be ranked at all.

by RIP Logan Young on Oct 24, 2007 1:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Dude, they only lost to Kentucky. Can’t blame them for that, I mean, KENTUCKY

Remember why everyone thought KY was good? For beating L-ville, then everyone forgot to look back and realize L-ville sucks. So KY lost to a team that lost to Vanderbilt. Gave up 38 points vs that SC “offense”. Egads.

Why is everyone so high on Oklahoma? Seems they got crowned an awesome team by beating Da U, then everyone forgot to notice how Da U sucks…there’s a pattern here.

Missouri? Barely beat Illinois. Missouri is basically Purdue without playing both OSU and UM. (they played only one of them, Oklahoma, and thus one loss).

by Pants McPants on Oct 24, 2007 1:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Penn State is technically THE Pennsylvania State University, but you’ll never hear us do that…. because we’re not raging douchebags.

by Dave on Oct 24, 2007 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

When was the last time Ohio State beat an SEC team? There is last year and there are the back-to-back Outback losses to South Carolina, the Citrus loss to Georgia… but that was what? 1992?

Perhaps just beating one SEC team (in any bowl) would help?

by UgasTexan on Oct 24, 2007 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

yes, because beating Texas as OSU did last year turned out to be meaningless.

by sherlock hemlock on Oct 24, 2007 1:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey if tOSU needs the “THE” to make themselves feel better about the fact that their coach dresses a 13 year old boy attending his first boy-girl dance and had his clothes picked out by his mother, I say let them.

by tOSU_sucks on Oct 24, 2007 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Arguing semantics is for wagons of newly baled fuck. 100 cocktails to you making the poll look like what it should rather than what it actually does.

By the way, it seems UF is getting a bit of a hometown dis’ here, no? I doubt anyone outside of Columburn, OH acutally believes OSU could beat UF right now. Same goes for UF heads up against MIss, BC, USF, and KU.

No?

by gindole on Oct 24, 2007 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

I guarantee you an OSU victory over any SEC team this year will not change your deluded world view one iota. Not one. And rather than recognize that little slice of cognitive dissonance, many of you will now justify the initial premise by insisting that there’s no way OSU could beat even the Vandys of the world on a neutral site.

by sherlock hemlock on Oct 24, 2007 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

#42

In 1988, John Cooper’s first season, Ohio State finished they year 4-6-1. One of those 4 wins was against LSU at the Shoe. LSU went on to finish their season as Co-Champions of the SEC. LSU is the only SEC team to ever play at the Shoe (that I know of) and they lost.

The back to back losses to USCe were in Cooper’s last year and Tressel’s first year.

Tennessee beat Ohio State in 95, but it was discovered that they wore illegal cleats (the spikes were too long) – just ironic that it rained that day and the field was a mess.

An 11-1 Bama team beat one of coopers 9-3 teams on a screen pass thrown off the wrong foot by Jay Barker to Sherman “cocaine” Williams. He’s still serving time in a federal penitentiary.

by The Artist Formerly Known as tOSUBuckeyes on Oct 24, 2007 1:55 PM EDT reply actions  

#46

John Cooper? 1988?

ND also won the National Championship in 1988. Can we talk about something actually relevant?

I know, how about the phantom PI call that allowed OSU to cheat Miami in the ‘02 Fiesta? It’s more recent, but not about OSU and the SEC. Maybe it will work!

by gindole on Oct 24, 2007 2:05 PM EDT reply actions  

sorry. #47

John Cooper? 1988?

ND also won the National Championship in 1988. Can we talk about something actually relevant?

I know, how about the phantom PI call that allowed OSU to cheat Miami in the ‘02 Fiesta? It’s more recent, but not about OSU and the SEC. Maybe it will work!

by gindole on Oct 24, 2007 2:06 PM EDT reply actions  

UCONN!!!!!

Drinking for the UConn/USF game starts in roughly 24 hours. I hope y’all in the south at least flip to the game during commercials of the Cocktail Party. Or for the 2nd half, after Tebow has farted out 6 touchdowns.

by Edsall is God on Oct 24, 2007 2:12 PM EDT reply actions  

  1. I like that an OSU fan felt the need to put in a snide comment about an opposing player’s off the field troubles.

I don’t think Ohio State would lose to Vandy on a neutral field. They’d also beat UGa, the South Carolina team that’s showed up the last two weeks, and Tennessee (on a neutral field).

Yay! Third in the East! The good news is that gets you a spot in the Outback Bowl, which you would win comfortably. The Big Ten sucks this year.

by Chg on Oct 24, 2007 2:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Number 48 (and 49):

     Thanks for completely proving my point in post 46. Of course the only way tOSU could beat Miami was with a bogus penalty (depsite how that tired canard has been debunked time and time again). And if tOSU could ONLY beat Miami by cheating, it is a foregone conclusion it wouldn’t last five minutes with any team from the SEC. Right.

by sherlock hemlock on Oct 24, 2007 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

#49
How about 4-1 in BCS bowls, beating 4 conference champions in the last 10 years, and 5-1 against Michigan. How about 27-1 in the last 28 games. How about the second most NFL roster players. How about the most NFL first rounders.

And the PI call at the end of the Miami game had nothing to do with the 1st down and goal from the 2 where the most dominate Miami team riding a 34 game win streak couldn’t get 2 yards. Also had nothing to do with the holding call that was not made that would have given the Bucks a first down and sealed the game.

http://buckeyefansonly.com/notcalled.html

by The Artist Formerly Known as tOSUBuckeyes on Oct 24, 2007 2:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Didn’t Georgia beat Alabama? Just wondering. I mean I know Alabama beat the dogshit out of Tennessee. Will you rank us after we beat UF, even if you have a gimp QB this week?

P.S. I know that is just a ploy of Meyer’s to get us off our game. Sounds like somebody got the fear!

by BuddaDawg on Oct 24, 2007 2:40 PM EDT reply actions  

  1. - Logan Young: At least the poll had USCw ranked ahead of your Bambie-Bammers.

by Stacy Keibler Luvs Me on Oct 24, 2007 2:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Chg: You make an accurate statement.

If OSU can find an offense, they might have a fighting chance in that bowl game.

by UgasTexan on Oct 24, 2007 2:56 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m really starting to wonder if tOSU is Bill Curry. An attachment to sweatervests? Check. A huge hate-on for Alabama? Check check. Prodigious amounts of pontificating verbiage? Check, yet again.

Bill, is that you?

by Xaryn on Oct 24, 2007 3:18 PM EDT reply actions  

#53

“How about the most NFL first rounders.”

Tell us again how you managed to lose two games with the most NFL first rounders ever, in one draft, in 2005? Please excuse us as to how that happened again. So you beat and overrated ND team. What game should you have played in with that kind of talent?

  1. is right. Keep piling up the suck 10 wins and winning a bowl game that will get you unremembered in the top 10 most every year. The great teams will continue to play for the titles. 27 of 28, great! You’re better than the Rockies. What do you have to show for it?

by gindole on Oct 24, 2007 3:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Hawaii over Auburn? WTF.

If they played, Auburn would choke all of the GAY out of the Rainbows…….

by MAB on Oct 24, 2007 4:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Why do tOSU fans have to add a little clause to every loss to an SEC team that in their mind negates said losses.

Damn, if only the scoreboard didn’t record Vandy’s points last weekend, the Cocks would only have 1 loss and likely overcome tOSU in the polls this week.

There, history fixed.

by Out of Conference on Oct 24, 2007 4:53 PM EDT reply actions  

59:

Definitely plausible, given AU’s triple black belt in choking this year.

by Tater Salad on Oct 24, 2007 5:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Orson,

Why the bias towards Auburn? You honestly think if AU played Hawaii, Virginia, or freakin UCONN on a neutral site that AU would lose? Someone is still bitter.

by WayneBradywillchokeabitch on Oct 24, 2007 5:03 PM EDT reply actions  

We lost 2 games in 2005.

1. Texas – National Champion – played them straight up and there was no shame in that loss (other than we had a shot to win but dropped a TD pass).

2. Penn State – Finished the year 12-1, only loss was to Michigan on a touchdown pass on the last play of the game. That’s right, 12-1 and their only loss was a Big Ten team, just like Wisconsin last year.

In the 2005 draft Ohio State had more first round draft picks than the entire SEC combined…look it up.

The problem is that you want to base your entire opinion of Ohio State on 1/8/2007, which in today’s wacky world of upsets, blowouts, and transitive herpes, is very narrow-minded.

by The Artist Formerly Known as tOSUBuckeyes on Oct 24, 2007 5:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Orson, you have a three-loss [Name Redacted] coached team in your top 25, do you have a secret mancrush on him?

by John on Oct 24, 2007 6:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Auburn unranked??? You smokin that la la la that Les Miles was on at the end of that game? They come one second from beating your #1 and you drop them from the Top 25? You’d think you idiots have a ballot in the AP, or your a stop on Nick Saban/Paul Finbaums dumbass tour

by Wes on Oct 24, 2007 7:02 PM EDT reply actions  

All this SEC pride…I’ve NEVER seen the South think it’s so much better than the rest of the country. They should design their own flag or something to show off their pride…I bet they could display them on the back windows of their pickup trucks.

by Rob on Oct 24, 2007 7:25 PM EDT reply actions  

USC vs. LSU national title game…it could happen

by ourconferenceisbetterthanyourconference on Oct 24, 2007 7:50 PM EDT reply actions  

#60
Not sure what team you root for, but I can guarantee you one thing, they are not 4-1 in BCS bowls.

by The Artist Formerly Known as tOSUBuckeyes on Oct 24, 2007 9:14 PM EDT reply actions  

#47

You need to see a physician. Your hard on for Bama has lasted well over four hours.

by MBD on Oct 25, 2007 3:00 AM EDT reply actions  

I waited a little to digest this blogpoll before I commented on ot. You know kinda like swimming after lunch. I agree that USC played as bad against vandy as SoCal did against Stanford, but last I checked Vandy is a descent team. So why have them drop from #5 to off the poll? It’s not like they lost to a 1-AA school.

by ctgarric on Oct 25, 2007 8:31 AM EDT reply actions  

62 – You do realize Auburn lost…at home…to Mississippi State, right? As for the UConn/Auburn game…we’ll find out Saturday. Auburn lost at home to USF. Let’s see what UConn does in the same situation.

Hopefully no one is still reading this post because, yep, the SEC is overrated. LSU is the best team in the country, no doubt. But everyone else is merely average or good. Florida lost at home to a decent Auburn team. Arkansas is just two crazy running backs. Bama lost to embarassing FSU. Tennessee is a joke. Georgia hasn’t beaten anyone of consquence, including getting beat down by UT. I love Kentucky but their defense is suspect to say the least.

My point? I think there is too much love given to the SEC teams. Are they all good? Yes. But the people are making it out to be the NFC East circa 1992 and that’s ridiculous. The SEC has a lot of great players, but only one great team. Just like every other conference. Only the Pac-10 has the potential (POTENTIAL!!) to have more than one great team.

by Edsall is God on Oct 25, 2007 9:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Orson-

Spot on on LSU (really do need better gamen management from the hat). Generally good but a little low on Florida, way to high on Texas (confession: love Texas and am not well disposed to your Gators but objectivity compells – especially if one concurs with your take on LSU) and also too high on USC. ND means zero, zilch, nada, nil. They APPEAR to be getting healthier and if they win at the Nikes this week its obviously back to the top 10 at least.

by marcillac on Oct 25, 2007 10:45 AM EDT reply actions  

artist – tOSU

You didn’t metion that if Troy had started from the beginning of the 2005 season the outcome could have been different.

Am an Ohio native and tOSU fan and my biased preference is for an LSU/tOSU title game, BUT,

1) the Bucks have played a pansy schedule to a significant degree through no fault of their own (I may be an Ohio homer but view the Big Televen with the minimum high regard which the deserve). If nothing elese they haven’t been tested in the crucible of the SEC and that kind of challange just isn replicated on the practice field. They won’t be fat and complacent like they were last year but I still like LSU by at least a TD.

2) The 2005 PSU team needed overtime to beat FLORIDA STATE.

3) If Oregon wins out they’ll deserve the BCS slot over tOSU unless the buckeys throttle Michigan with some conviction (I know its rivalry game, maybe Henne will be healthy, etc.. but anything less than a double digit victory in convicing fashion – non of the “marginal” crap – see SMQ) means the Nikes would deserve the spot. They won’t get it and I’ll pleased to see tOSU in NO but they won’t have earned it.

by marcillac on Oct 25, 2007 11:00 AM EDT reply actions  

  1. (and others)

Ohio State (the school, not the football team) long ago adopted the THE as a sort of unofficial (at least I believe it to be unofficial) motto, much as corporations have mission statements.

It stands for Tradition Honor Excellence and is used with pride.

No, it is not expected that anyone will
“get it” – and yes, if it ticks some people off, that’s just fine. To again use a corporate analogy, it (ticking off people, be they from Michigan or wherever) is a value -added bonus.

Personally, I find it antiquated, worn out and useless. Like football teams from the state of Alabama.

by Stagecoach67 on Oct 25, 2007 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

#63

Let me fix your post for you:

We lost 2 games in 2005 with “more first round draft picks than the entire SEC combined…look it up.”

1. Texas – National Champion – played them straight up and there was no shame in that loss (other than we had a shot to win but dropped a TD pass).

but we lost the game with “more first round draft picks than the entire SEC combined…look it up.”

2. Penn State – Finished the year 12-1, only loss was to Michigan on a touchdown pass on the last play of the game. That’s right, 12-1 and their only loss was a Big Ten team, just like Wisconsin last year.

and we lost the game with “more first round draft picks than the entire SEC combined…look it up.”

In the 2005 draft Ohio State had more first round draft picks than the entire SEC combined…look it up…..and we still managed to lose 2 games.

Surprisingly though, none of us in Suckeye nation we’re mad about it because we won a BCS game.

The problem is that you want to base your entire opinion of Ohio State on 1/8/2007, which in today’s wacky world of upsets, blowouts, and transitive herpes, is very narrow-minded.

Not true, but that was fun game to watch! I was talking about 2005. UF just further proved what most knew in 2005.

#73

“and my biased preference is for an LSU/tOSU title game”

Mine too!! It would be like 01/08/2007 all over again. Bring it on.

by gindole on Oct 25, 2007 4:05 PM EDT reply actions  

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