CURIOUS INDEX, 10/23/07
![]() |
||
|
Les Miles remains “livid” over the chop-block delivered by Auburn linemen to LSU All-American Glenn Dorsey during last week’s Auburn/LSU game. “He (Slive) said that it (a penalty) should’ve been called, and it was wrong,” Miles said. “He said that they’re accountable and that they’ll be responsible to do the right thing.” Miles, being the Great Communicator of college football that he is, also spoke with Tuberville, who apologized for the chop-block and reiterated that it was not intentional. LSU message boards remain artfully skeptical.
(The work of LSUFreek, again.) The Big East admits it blew a call on a fair catch run by UConn in the Lousiville/UConn game, which is great except for the fact that Louisville remains screwed and saddled with a loss it likely would have turned into a victory otherwise. Then again, according to SMQ, Brian Brohm was playing such conservative, dump-off football and underthrowing balls badly, it might not have mattered anyway. Bears Necessity already has the comforting battle cry for Cal Football 2007: “Number one for two hours!” Your fescue does not please my angels. Pete Carroll was extremely displeased but only in the most pumped and jacked of ways with the quality of Notre Dame’s turf before the Trojans game on Saturday in South Bend. “I don’t understand why it’s like that. I mean who plays here? They sharing it with a local JC (junior college) or something?” Pete’s obviously not from the South, where insulting the quality of another man’s fescue is a killing offense with only blood atonement as its conclusion. Watch for men in black bearing rakes and spray barrels, Pete–we wouldn’t drive past the Garden Center of your local Home Depot without wearing Kevlar for a while. The Green Brotherhood never sleeps. And now the loudest thing on earth: 90,000 drunk people telling you just how badly they beat you. Warren’s got the connoisseur’s review at Fanopticon. Remember, it’s not that the SEC’s better than your conference. It’s that we’re not sure whether we left the carseat on top of the car when we pulled out of the driveway, and we’re not going back to check until the game’s over. L’il Bear Stabler’s a tough one, though. Wherever he is, he’ll get along all right, ’specially if the coyotes adopt him as one of their own. Make ‘em tough.
|
||
![]() |
||












1
TIGERinATL says:
Quote Miles
“He assured me that the people who were responsible, the players, were sick,” Miles said. “It may have been an intentional block by two players, but not together and not rehearsed and certainly not coached. After a team meeting (at Auburn) on Sunday, the participants felt terrible about what had happened. It’s important that everybody understand that that’s immoral — that block. It’s something that should not be tolerated. That really didn’t have any place in football. Coach Tuberville sees it that way. It appears that the league sees it that way. It’s important that we’re all on the same page.”
Auburn right tackle Lee Ziemba was blocking Dorsey high, which is normal, on the play before Ramsey cut him low. Miles said he couldn’t tell if Ziemba was guilty of posting Dorsey up for the low hit.
“I can’t tell you what’s going on inside the helmets of the two players,” said Miles, a former starting offensive guard at Michigan in 1974 and 1975 when chop blocking was legal and coached. “Having been in the line before, you don’t necessarily have the disposition of when someone’s being posted. The offensive tackle, very comfortably, could be setting that man and concentrating on this, and as that guy goes down, not ever know what created that issue.
“I can’t tell you that they were innocent, and I certainly can’t tell you that they had prearranged it or orchestrated it. I can tell you that their coach is coaching against it, understands the rules and expressed to me how unfortunate it was and that both participants were sorry that it happened, however it happened.”
Not sure what he means by “sick”, but it looks like Miles understands that it is something that happened in the heat of the moment and was not orchestrated or coached, but should have been flagged nonetheless. Which is exactly what Tuberville said on Sunday. LSU fans, your team won and, more importantly, Dorsey is going to be fine. So stop your annual Auburn bitchfest.
October 23rd, 2007 at 8:02 am
2
NewAZTiger says:
I’m pulling for the refs. They always win.
October 23rd, 2007 at 8:09 am
3
skinnyphatman says:
Worth noting… What is not reported. Les Miles declaring Tubby and gang “Buckwheat.” Mr Shhh cannot be far behind
October 23rd, 2007 at 8:10 am
4
PW says:
I respectfully disagree with the “heat of the moment” argument. Maybe the kid didn’t realize how dangerous that kind of move is, but there’s no way it wasn’t intentional.
October 23rd, 2007 at 8:12 am
5
Edsall is God says:
I hope everyone is okay with living in a world where UConn plays in the Orange Bowl.
Tuberville may be a douche, but he can’t be that much of a douche to hurt Dorsey. Although, since he’ll be coaching A&M next year, maybe he doesn’t care anymore.
October 23rd, 2007 at 8:16 am
6
PW says:
In other words, I don’t necessarily think it was malicious, but it was no accident.
October 23rd, 2007 at 8:18 am
7
purpleheart says:
Mike Slive is rediculous. He never EVER takes any action on anything at all. I would love his job, imagine going into work and never having to make a decision. That would be awesome.
The officiating in the SEC has never been worse, how is it that there have been 0 holding calls against LSU’s defensive line this year?
October 23rd, 2007 at 8:19 am
8
purpleheart says:
Also, it’s not just LSU that gets screwed, how about Ole Miss vs. Alabama?
October 23rd, 2007 at 8:24 am
9
Jonathan says:
Purpleheart,
Defensive lines are very seldom flagged for holding… I’m hoping you meant offensive lines facing LSU’s defensive line?
October 23rd, 2007 at 8:25 am
10
TIGERinATL says:
Are doing something “in the heat of the moment” and the act being intentional mutually exclusive? If someone throws a punch after a play “in the heat of the moment” it is still intentional and should draw a flag. This is the same situation.
I think he was trying to do anything he could to block Dorsey and in the heat of the moment made a really stupid decision. But I do not believe for one second that there was any intent to end the guy’s career or to even knock him out of the game.
October 23rd, 2007 at 8:34 am
11
The Last Dragon says:
#8 quit whining about that call. It was 100% correct.
October 23rd, 2007 at 8:35 am
12
purpleheart says:
#9 yes, I meant holding — no holding penalties for LSU opponents.
October 23rd, 2007 at 8:37 am
13
Orson Swindle says:
Can’t believe no one’s talked about the awesomeness of that gif. The dramatic pause at the end is immaculately timed.
October 23rd, 2007 at 8:38 am
14
PSUrob says:
what is the crowd chanting in the videO?
October 23rd, 2007 at 8:39 am
15
OhioDawg says:
Maybe the Big East refs are in some type of contest, because the officiating in the Pitt/UC game was awful. One flag picked up on the field, one call made on the field overturned. Oh, and they both went against UC.
Chudthku: Tell the officials we need parity
ESPNcaa: Yes, master.
October 23rd, 2007 at 8:43 am
16
Edsall is God says:
15 -
ESPNews was going crrrrazy last night with the UConn call, saying it decided the game (false, LVille was up 17-7 in the 4th after the punt) and making it a huge deal. Why? Duh…UConn is on ABC this weekend and, sadly, is their biggest game at 330. Nebraska/Texas does nothing for nobody.
ABC: USF/UConn
CBS: Cocktail Party
I wonder what people will watch….
October 23rd, 2007 at 8:46 am
17
IHateUT says:
#14 –
“Hey Vols! We just beat the hell outta you – Rammer Jammer Yellow Hammer; Give ‘Em Hell Alabama.”
And there was much rejoicing.
October 23rd, 2007 at 8:48 am
18
Tarpon says:
#14, it is the Alabama crowd following the 41-17 vol-sodomy
RTR
October 23rd, 2007 at 8:51 am
19
TIGERinATL says:
On a much more fun note, I see that sportsbybrooks.com has a nice selection of cheesecake. SBB doesn’t hit on all of them, but is batting for a pretty good average.
October 23rd, 2007 at 8:52 am
20
TIGERinATL says:
Incedentally, did Houston receive the “we just beat the hell out of you” from the bammers following that bloodletti… er… narrow escape?
October 23rd, 2007 at 8:54 am
21
Wippuh says:
That Rammer Jammer pales in comparison to the ones vs Florida and Tennessee in ‘05. Particularly, the one vs Florida was the loudest I have ever heard a cheer from that redneck stadium.
October 23rd, 2007 at 8:55 am
22
Allahver Fist says:
I can’t think of anything funny because Shreveport having a newspaper has zapped my noodle. One of y’all cajuns please float me down a copy of their next Independence Bowl Commemorative Section.
October 23rd, 2007 at 8:56 am
23
jegtar says:
#14, I can’t get video here at work but based on the comments, I am sure it is the Alabama crowd doing the Rammer Jammer chant.
“Hey Vols, Hey Vols, Hey Vols, We just beat the hell out of you. Rammer Jammer, yellow hammer, give em’ hell Alabama”
October 23rd, 2007 at 8:59 am
24
panhandler says:
Josh Portis continues his streak of great decisions.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/college/football/bal-terspfoot1022,0,566060.story?track=rss
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:00 am
25
jegtar says:
Damn, I was late.
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:00 am
26
TIGERinATL says:
#22 – I think Fulmer will be able to pick one up for you.
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:01 am
27
Crabs says:
#14
I think it goes something like this:
“Rammer Jammer Yellow Hammer
We screw our sisters here in Alabammer”
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:04 am
28
gerry dorsey says:
@ #20
sure did. why?? did the bulls and bulldogs roll toomer’s corner???
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:06 am
29
Rival says:
What the hell is the “yellow hammer” anyway?
I never understood that.
Hell, the “rammer jammer” makes no sense, either.
Why not “rammer Bammer”?
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:08 am
30
BamaTaxMan says:
Video Camera – $450.
Tickets to Alabama – Tennessee $700.
Nick Saban – $4,000,000 per year.
The sweet sound of Rammer Jammer after restoration of the proper order of the world (and a lovely ass-whooping). – Priceless.
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:11 am
31
BamaTaxMan says:
#27 – Yellowhammer – the state bird of Alabama.
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:12 am
32
gerry dorsey says:
@ 27 rival
yellow hammer is the state bird…and an adult beverage at a little place called gallette’s.
hell i’m not even sure i can explain the rammer jammer part.
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:12 am
33
gerry dorsey says:
turns out “rammer jammer” is the old name of the student newspaper.
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:13 am
34
Rival says:
Ohhhhhh….
Is the state bird of Alabama a mean sumabitch or something?
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:16 am
35
Techie says:
It’s Bama. Do you expect anything there to make logical sense?
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:17 am
36
Allahver Fist says:
Josh Portis should be homeschooled.
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:17 am
37
Techie says:
Beats the state bird of GA, which is the Brown Thrasher. (That explains the NHL teamname)
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:18 am
38
bamadrew says:
Re #27:
Yellowhammer = Alabama’s state bird (although, I don’t think I’ve ever seen one)
Also, one of the state nickname’s is the Yellowhammer State, since the Heart of Dixie hurts some people’s feelings.
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:19 am
39
RIP Logan Young says:
It’s a farking cheer. It’s not supposed to make sense. Were you ever in a fraternity?
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:22 am
40
Crabs says:
#30
Will that “restoration of the proper order of the world” be complete when bama goes back on probation?
http://www.al.com/news/press-register/index.ssf?/base/news/1193131201291460.xml&coll=3
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:23 am
41
gerry dorsey says:
@ 40
yes.
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:28 am
42
Rainmaker says:
#20,
What cheer did you guys do after you pounded Miss. State on your homefield?
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:30 am
43
Raider Red says:
This link would not be EDSBS worthy, except that the story mentions “The Great Alaskan Bush Company.” Yes stripper fans, that would be a nudie bar in Anchorage.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21427910/?gt1=10450
From the looks of the talent, it doesn’t exactly measure up to Mons Venus. But hey, it is Alaska, so everything’s relative.
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:31 am
44
Coop says:
O,
I get that Tubs would be Jack Nicholson in this scenario, but Miles would not be the military prosecutor played by Kevin Bacon. Bacon was on Nicholson’s side, denying the chop block, er, code red, was called, er, ordered.
So, replace Daniel Kathy, Cruise, with Miles, Borges becomes Kendrick, i.e. K. Sutherland, and the gif is more accurate, yet still funny.
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:38 am
45
PW says:
10
You have a point there with the “intentional” vs. “heat of the moment” thing. As I watch the video again, it just looks like he had poor footwork and the last resort of a slow-footed O-lineman is to either hold or dive at the legs.
I also like how the guard got driven back 2-3 steps in about 1 second, but once Dorsey was down he got on top of him like he had pancaked him.
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:44 am
46
Out of Conference says:
Damnitt , Coop.
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:45 am
47
RIP Logan Young says:
#40
No, when AU goes back on probation.
http://www.dawgsports.com/story/2006/7/16/1376/16504
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:47 am
48
Rival says:
#39.
Yes. But those cheers were usually about drankin’, loose women, and dumb fraternity brothers. Makes perfect sense in college.
Unlike the Bama cheer.
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:52 am
49
Sabanite says:
48
Of course calling yourself plainsmen while cheering on your tigers with a yell of war eagle makes perfect sense…
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:56 am
50
RIP Logan Young says:
The “we just beat the hell outta you” part made a lot of sense on Saturday.
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:59 am