CALL? WHICH CALL?
Which team’s chances? LSU? Oh, that’s me! Ha!Les Miles actual dialogue, as best remembered from one viewing, during his post-game interview with Holly Rowe following LSU’s eschewing of a field goal and all reason in their 30-24 victory over Auburn Saturday.
Holly: Tell us about that last call, Coach.
Les: (Pauses, looks blankly at her.) Which call?
Holly: (Dumbfounded.) The touchdown call to win the game. Tell us a little about that.
Les: Oh, that call. Sure. It’s because, where other men have brains, I just have more balls. Just a skull full of testes–that’s what you’ll see if you take an MRI of my head, actually. It’s like looking at an x-ray of a beanbag in profile when you look at my head. I jostle when I walk. Why? It’s the balls jangling and boinging around in my head. Don’t ask me if it’s awesome. There’s no brains up there, only balls. And balls always have the same answer to that question: it’s awesome having a brain full of balls like Les Miles does. It sounds awesome when I say that, actually. Balls. BALLS BALLS BALLS BALLS BALLS. That’s it in short, Balls.
Holly: It’s Holly.
Miles: Balls, balls. Balls.
If one needs any further confirmation that Les Miles has no idea what he’s talking about, take this as the last and best pieces of evidence.
First, Miles claims that they still had a time out, not realizing the clock had run down to one second, and that with one more hitch or qb scramble, the clock would have run dry and bled out any chances LSU would have had of winning, unburned timeout or not. Miles would have been introduced as a plaything for Mike VI as punishment, and we’d be writing this great piece we would have wept during the composition of about how Auburn was the greatest, most balanced team in the anarchic SEC West.
Second, they claim Byrd hadn’t been covered all night, and that they knew they could hit it. D.J. Hall went uncovered on Saturday, catching 13 balls against Tennessee for Alabama. This is someone uncovered all night who you could throw to with mathematical certainty. Byrd had two solid receptions, but it wasn’t an Easy Button transaction for the td. It constituted an immense gamble, one done when a simple field goal could have won the game.
Third, we let the crowd speak. Mike Patrick, while denying the killing urges of the “voices in his head” (he described Tiger Stadium as so loud he couldn’t hear the voices in his head, giving us a flash of the daily madness swirling in his mind) invoked the seismograph game, but got no thunder. While the crowd was loud, at least 30,000 fans seemed too stunned to believe what they’d seen and sat in meek, catatonic silence, cutting down on measurable vibrations at the lab. And not that fun, recreational taser-use stunned, either: a genuine, flabbergasted horrified kind of stunned set in, with most Tiger fans relieved not only to win, but to survive Mr. Toad’s absurdly hazardous driving.









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maskedavenger says:
My perception of who was lucky was the LSU quarterback (Matt Flynn). The ball he threw was actually poorly placed – it was on the receiver’s insider shoulder and could have been picked. The proper throw there is to the receiver’s outside shoulder so it is either caught or falls incomplete and and interception is never a possibility. Flynn will get credit for making a play because it worked out. But there was a lot of room between where that ball was caught and the back corner.
October 21st, 2007 at 2:48 pm
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BeardGuy says:
People are slamming him because:
1) a sack leaves you with a very long field goal after the timeout
2) an interception fucks you completely
3) running the clock to 1 second and kicking a field is far and away smarter than risking the game with a long pass
In short, people are slamming Miles for taking needless risks that could cost the game. It worked out for him this week, and it worked for him against Florida, but his ridiculous play calling cost them against Kentucky. I rather expect it to cost them further games this season.
October 21st, 2007 at 2:50 pm
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Cap'n Ken says:
Sloppy work from the excellent EDSBS crew (OK, I’ll give you that this went down at like 1 a.m. and you had to be almost to passed-out mode after the UF / UK game). Fatty Rowe asked a completely uninformed question, which is what threw Leslie. And ESPN’s announcers were just stupid with this crap about time running out if the catch wasn’t made. Don’t fall for that.
Brilliant call (Byrd tipped off Crowton to the fact that he’d be getting single coverage in that drive – not all game like you said) and kudos to Leslie for going with it. There was plenty of time to run it; the play actually ended with 4 seconds left, and great calls happen when the other team isn’t expecting it.
Corndog THIS, Auburn.
October 21st, 2007 at 3:01 pm
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purpleheart says:
#42 you obviously don’t follow LSU, Colt David is Cold David when it comes to clutch kicks, the kid just sucks.
There really should have been more seconds on the clock at the end of the play anyways, the refs should have added the time.
October 21st, 2007 at 3:28 pm
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maskedavenger says:
One more thing – why not a 2-point conversion? If by some miracle of God Auburn were to score on a home-run throwback or some other sort of kick-return trickery wouldn’t is being up 6 really going to do that much for you?
October 21st, 2007 at 3:32 pm
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Gentleman Masher says:
Holly Rowe-ly Poly had a terrible game last night. How she managed to get as far as she had while being a vacuous moron is beyond me.
And if you watch the replay…it’s pretty clear LSU would have had time to try the FG after the pass. There would have been AT LEAST :01 left on the clock.
An unexpected call, but not a bad one. Also don’t fault Tuberville for not using his timeouts…he knew that LSU was already in FG range (partly of his doing), and their best shot at winning the game was to weather the storm. Too bad LSU went Katrina on their ass.
October 21st, 2007 at 3:35 pm
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Brian says:
Les Miles didn’t say, “Kick Their Ass,” he said “kick thereafter,” although it did sound humorously similar–sort of like the “facerape” comment I guess.
And, by the way, the call was sound. I was thinking that Miles should call a timeout, and then run an out route for a first down, thus giving you a shorter field goal, but there’s nothing wrong in theory with taking a chance in the end zone since Auburn had been covering LSU’s best receivers on an island all game.
The clock wasn’t even close to running out, either. A bobble would have been no different from an incompletion.
October 21st, 2007 at 3:38 pm
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Mon-L says:
Watch the replay. That was solid gold endgame strategy.
As soon as they got in reasonable FG range, LSU has a good chance at the win and they want the clock to roll. Every second that ticked off lessened Auburn’s chance of mounting a comeback.
Since Tuberville locked up and decided to eat his TO’s Urban Meyer style, Les played it smart and milked out one shot at the corner. Any issues with time management are on Flynn. He took too long to get the play off and shaved their margin of error to zero.
Sure the pass could have been tipped / intercepted / bobbled. Or Flynn could have been sacked. Similar issues can derail the FG – fumble / miss / block. Every play has good / bad outcomes. Trusting a senior QB, while basically eliminating any chance of an Auburn comeback is commendable and shrewd.
October 21st, 2007 at 3:39 pm
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Chinese Bandit says:
I’ll throw my hat in with the others to say that Holly was the idiot: she asked about the play after the timeout. Miles may have even knew what she was talking about and was giving her a hard time because he intentionally did not call a timeout.
Why is everyone saying the play was such a gamble? Here’s the gamble… trusting Colt David to hit a long FG or lose. Even with the poor clock operation burning extra time, there was still :01 left to kick the FG. All you doubters are saying that a FG attempt is better than a TD attempt followed by a FG attempt… think about that for a sec.
October 21st, 2007 at 3:53 pm
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Chinese Bandit says:
Oh, and let me also voice my agreement with LSUJoshua about those dirty ass blocks against Dorsey. Those should have been called, but I’m fairly certain Auburn brings their refs for every LSU game. Those high-lows are illegal, dirty, and classless. But why should we be surprised? Tuberville’s all about class, right?
October 21st, 2007 at 3:55 pm
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Chinese Bandit says:
@30: He said “kick there after.”
He knew there would be time to kick there after the pass, if necessary.
October 21st, 2007 at 3:58 pm
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PW says:
Maybe she was fed something like “Ask him why he called that play even though he had a timeout left” and, in typical telephone game fashion, it came out the way it did.
October 21st, 2007 at 4:18 pm
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suicidewatch says:
i think i puked my mouth a little bit when LSU got that touchdown. Les Miles is totally a retard, but a ballsy retard at that. mostly as an Auburn fan i was screaming my head off about how Tubby was pissing the game away by being stupid and not kicking it deep with that much time left on the clock and just hoping they wouldn’t get a field goal, and then the fact he doesn’t call a single timeout on the final drive so that Auburn would have some time left in case LSU did score was totally moronic. i love tubberville and think he’s mostly a great coach, but WTF? you have a chance to knock off LSU and take command of the SEC West and then just turn around and choke on a fat cock like that. this is why i hate/love college football.
October 21st, 2007 at 4:18 pm
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Zone Left says:
Scout.com predicts that LSU loses to ‘Bama, but finishes 12-1 and in plays in the Sugar Bowl. Why am I confused? Is Bayou math different from school math?
October 21st, 2007 at 4:18 pm
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Randomly Firing Neurons says:
Is it just me or is that picture of Miles kinda Colbert-esqe.
After all, he’s put everyone on notice…
October 21st, 2007 at 4:19 pm
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Alagator says:
Les Miles is the Rain Man…the idiot savant of college football…during the game winning drive all the coaches heard over the intercom was:
Les: Score TD…bullocks…one second…TD…
LSU OC: Coach? Wah?
Les: Score TD…six…six points…one second…bullocks…bullocks…TD…call the TD…bullocks….TD…Bullocks!
October 21st, 2007 at 4:28 pm
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Russ says:
Yet another sign that football in the south just matters so much more than in other areas of the country – even our women’s magazines have a college football special section. I sat down in the “library” this morning for my daily constitutional, and my lovely bride had left her Southern Living magazine out for me, opened to the special southern college football preview. In addition to pointing out some of the big games this fall, they had some smashing recipes for tailgating, and some nice fall fashions.
October 21st, 2007 at 4:52 pm
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BeardGuy says:
I think I’m willing to predict the BCS championship game: OSU-LSU, the game goes to 18 overtimes and no one scores at all. The game is called and both teams are sent home in disgrace. The SEC claims conference superiority since their shameful trip home is shorter, and the Big Ten sucks since they have to take a plane home.
October 21st, 2007 at 5:02 pm
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BJ and The Bear says:
“LSU OC: Coach? Wah?”
Crowton made the call Sonny.
October 21st, 2007 at 5:55 pm
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TV Guy says:
Call me Whereyabeen McLatetotheparty, but:
#6 made me laugh until I cried. I’m just sayin’.
October 21st, 2007 at 6:38 pm
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Two cheers for LLLoyd says:
Yeah that call made the hair on the back of my neck stand up but, man, that’s the way to play. As several posters said, lots of things could go wrong with a FG attempt, too. The game is filled with risks.
If you don’t trust your veteran players enough to give them opportunities to make game-winning plays without making game-losing mistakes, they why are you even coaching? Just retire and let somebody else take over who treats it like a game to be won and not their life to be lost. That’s what’s driving us batty up here in Ann Arbor.
October 21st, 2007 at 7:13 pm
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DoyleJacksonlikesthepenis says:
Gamble? Hell, that wasn’t even a gamble. The clock in Tiger Stadium has a history of being…magical. If LSU had needed an extra second on the clock to kick the FG, it would have appeared on the game clock. Just ask Bert Jones.
From The Clarion Ledger, November 19, 2003 By Rick Cleveland:
In 1972, four seconds remained. LSU, trailing 16-10, had the ball at the Ole Miss 10-yard-line. Bert Jones dropped back 10 yards into the pocket to throw, pumped one way and then threw incomplete. Incredibly, the clock still showed one second. Jones then threw for a touchdown and a 17-16 LSU victory, prompting Ole Miss fans to erect a sign at the Mississippi-Louisiana state line: “You are now entering Louisiana. Set your clocks back four seconds.”
October 21st, 2007 at 7:38 pm
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eric y says:
whitlow thinks I puked my mouth a little bit when LSU got that touchdown. Jay Whitlow says Les Miles is totally a retard, but a ballsy retard says whitlow at that. mostly as an Auburn fan whitlow was screaming my whitlow head off about how Tubbyand sammie and whitlow were pissing the game away by being stupid and not kicking whitlow deep with that much time left on the whitlow’s clock and just hoping whitlow wouldn’t get a field goal, and then the fact whitlow doesn’t call a single timeout on the final drive so that Auburn, according to whitlow, would have some time left in case LSU did score was totally moronic and i have to agree with whitlow on that . i love tubberville and whitlow and whitlow think she’s mostly a great coach, but WTF? whitlow has a chance to knock off LSU and take command of whitlow and the SEC West and then just turn around and choke whitlow on a fat clock like that. this is why whitlow and i hate/love college football.
October 21st, 2007 at 8:08 pm
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Fred Sanford says:
I agree with Captain Ken. EDSBS crew missed the boat on this. More importantly, so did Dish Network- my dvr stopped recording with 12 minutes left on the clock. It cut to live tv mode on the last play of the game with the announcers yelling about the incredible finish. All oDish
October 21st, 2007 at 8:28 pm
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Fred Sanford says:
was trying to say all of the following suck:
Dish Network
ESPN for babbling on so long
Holly Rowe (you know why)
Tuberville
George Bush
oh and lets add this laptop to the list
October 21st, 2007 at 8:34 pm
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Brandon Cox's Vagina says:
#29 – AU is 11th in the SEC on kickoff coverage. LSU is like #2 in the nation on kickoff returns. The squib kicks were good coaching in order to neutralize a huge advantage that LSU has over AU. We lost the USF game by kicking it deep and giving up a huge return.
The last squib kick was the right thing to do, but the bounce went bad.
It was good coaching with a bad result.
In contrast, playing a soft zone against Florida for 4 entire quarters was bad coaching with a bad result.
October 21st, 2007 at 9:24 pm
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Felix Krull says:
Observations from a Buckeye fan who attended the game.
First, I want to congratulate the LSU fans on how classy and welcoming they were. My friend and I walked around campus from 11am with our Ohio State shirts on, and while we naturally received our share of negative reinforcement, we were fed beers, bbq and football talk all day.
Also, congratulations on your women. The only place where I’ve seen a better collection of talent is Krakow. The Auburn girls in attendance represented well too. Having to leave Baton Rouge to go back home to the meh girls of DC makes baby George Clooney cry.
The actual gametime experience was great too, although I wasn’t as overwhelmed as I thought I would be. The crowd (in the south end zone at least) was a bit down in the first half. It’s true, the reaction of the crowd at the end of the game was a bit bewildered. Everyone was terrified by MIles’ clock management and then when Byrd hauled it in, stunned relief exploded. The student section impressed. A big game in the Horseshoe is just as crazy, loud and intimidating.
#52 sums it up as to why Miles is taking flak. Too much risk. But when it works…cajones. I think the criticism also (over)flows from his horrible clock management in the first half.
All proof that College Football is King.
October 21st, 2007 at 9:24 pm
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PW says:
I agree with everything eric y @ 70 said.
October 21st, 2007 at 9:44 pm
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Football Diet says:
#8 For Auburn doesn’t look at the ball, all he does is face gaurd. USF knows, LSU knows, Fucking Holly rowe knows it. He should have 20 ints this year if the bastard would look for the ball. That Flynn pass looked like it was thrown to him. LSU realized you can throw to his man like he’s wide open.
And no one mentioned the first down LSU got on that final drive where the player was clearly short and got a wonderful spot. Why the hell wasn’t that challenged?
October 21st, 2007 at 9:49 pm
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DC Trojan says:
#32 I think LSU has become the non-gamecock USC of the SEC. That was mad-bastard football at its finest. Even if I thought that the Trojans looked like they were going to claw their way back into contending for an MNC (I don’t, they won’t), I couldn’t have brought myself to be pro-Tubbs in that game. I would have been hollering about the winning TD for LSU if my jaw hadn’t been on the floor.
October 21st, 2007 at 10:43 pm
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Mr Pelican Pants says:
This has to be the best Lou Holthz impression ever:
Gentlemen, behold! Fake Lou Holtz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMPImwEHZqc
October 21st, 2007 at 11:28 pm
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MiseanAUFan says:
And on the real, a big FUCK YOU to Auburn and their cheap shotting offensive line. Nice try twice on cutting Dorsey’s knees while he’s engaged with the LG. Sorry fuckers, you lose and it couldn’t happen to a better team and school. Fuck y’all.
http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/mobileregister/index.ssf?/base/sports/1193044949154740.xml&coll=3
October 22nd, 2007 at 6:16 am
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WDamnE says:
Check that link from #81. Tuberville apologized for the block, but said it wasn’t intentional OR called by the coaches.
Tuberville: “I hate it happened to (Dorsey), because he came back to get his degree and finish out in college football. He’s a great kid, works hard and plays hard.” Yeah, no class there at all.
And ask Andre Woodson if LSU has ever taken a cheap shot.
http://thewizardofodds.blogspot.com/2007/10/louisiana-state-cheapie-chop.html
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:07 am
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WDamnE says:
Now it’s no longer #81’s post, it just changed to 82’s. So just check out MiseanAUFan’s link.
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:49 am
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Hobnail_Boot says:
Pay no attention to the man behind the hat.
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:03 am
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Lovecrafty says:
A big hearty YUCK FOU to any and all who thinks Auburn carried their refs to the game. As karlhungus12 pointed out, AU got face-raped twice: the Hester TD pass (only 6 men on the line) and the spot on the 3rd down run by Murphy (hmm, lets let the player spot the ball himself). Funny how the announcers spoke up on both those plays. Still, AU made their bed by not scoring in the 3rd quarter and by not kicking deep on the last kickoff.
And oh yeah, the next person who utters “They control their own destiny” gets bludgeoned to death with Bea Arthur’s dick.
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:13 am
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renegade182 says:
Auburn/LSU games have always had some calls that could go either way but I must say that the shot on Woodson does not compare to the shot on Dorsey. Also the shot on Woodson resulted in a flag that some could argue helped in UK winning the game. If you look at the last four Auburn/LSU games Auburn has gotten away with their fair share of terrible calls to help in coming up with the big win. I tell you that none of us play on that field, but if that was your son or father or any part of your family you see a career ending injury. It was dirty football and it disgraces college football and Auburn football. Every team out there has lost their heads in the passion of the game but this should not be tolerated and due to the lack of response by Auburn fans on this page concerning this matter I trust deep down they know it was dirty as well. I love this game of college football but I never desire one of those players to be injured. It is the players who give us this great game and Auburn football should play with that level of respect as should any team, and cheap shots like the one on Dorsey is disrespecting the game, players, and the privilage to play the game.
October 22nd, 2007 at 4:13 pm
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WDamnE says:
renegade182,
I think you’ve seen a lot of Auburn fans talking about the block, and if not on this thread, check out the other ones on EDSBS. But, if you don’t think Auburn fans are discussing this, then I will.
I don’t think it was intentional and I don’t think it was called by Auburn’s coaches.
And I was completely embarrassed by it. I was embarrassed when it happened, and I’m embarrassed now. So is coach Tuberville – he apologized for it. Even though I think it was a heat of the moment unintentional act of an 18-year-old, it was still wrong. That’s not the way Auburn should conduct itself and I hope I never see us do anything like that again.
October 22nd, 2007 at 5:42 pm
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renegade182 says:
WDamnE,
Thank you for your comment this was a classic Auburn/LSU game no matter what the rankings we always come ready for a battle when our two teams meet. As I said in my last post I just don’t wish for players to be injured for any reason. As you said they are just kids (with a great talent) and we as the fans should remember this when we are ranting about the games, and you are correct I have not seen the other threads. We will just have to agree to disagree when it comes to the matter of it being unintentional. I believe it was but as you point out it was done by one player and not the whole team, that I agree with. Good Luck with the rest of the season and remember most LSU fans think the same way I do. We welcome great games like this one.
October 22nd, 2007 at 5:56 pm
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WDamnE says:
renegade182,
No argument on one point – it was a great game! I even liked the insane call for a pass at the end. Bear in mind, when I say Les Miles is barking mad, I mean that as a compliment. I hope he stays at LSU a long time, he’s the kind of coach you want to watch.
October 23rd, 2007 at 7:58 am