CALL? WHICH CALL?
Which team's chances? LSU? Oh, that's me! Ha!Les Miles actual dialogue, as best remembered from one viewing, during his post-game interview with Holly Rowe following LSU's eschewing of a field goal and all reason in their 30-24 victory over Auburn Saturday.
Holly: Tell us about that last call, Coach.
Les: (Pauses, looks blankly at her.) Which call?
Holly: (Dumbfounded.) The touchdown call to win the game. Tell us a little about that.
Les: Oh, that call. Sure. It's because, where other men have brains, I just have more balls. Just a skull full of testes--that's what you'll see if you take an MRI of my head, actually. It's like looking at an x-ray of a beanbag in profile when you look at my head. I jostle when I walk. Why? It's the balls jangling and boinging around in my head. Don't ask me if it's awesome. There's no brains up there, only balls. And balls always have the same answer to that question: it's awesome having a brain full of balls like Les Miles does. It sounds awesome when I say that, actually. Balls. BALLS BALLS BALLS BALLS BALLS. That's it in short, Balls.
Holly: It's Holly.
Miles: Balls, balls. Balls.
If one needs any further confirmation that Les Miles has no idea what he's talking about, take this as the last and best pieces of evidence.
First, Miles claims that they still had a time out, not realizing the clock had run down to one second, and that with one more hitch or qb scramble, the clock would have run dry and bled out any chances LSU would have had of winning, unburned timeout or not. Miles would have been introduced as a plaything for Mike VI as punishment, and we'd be writing this great piece we would have wept during the composition of about how Auburn was the greatest, most balanced team in the anarchic SEC West.
Second, they claim Byrd hadn't been covered all night, and that they knew they could hit it. D.J. Hall went uncovered on Saturday, catching 13 balls against Tennessee for Alabama. This is someone uncovered all night who you could throw to with mathematical certainty. Byrd had two solid receptions, but it wasn't an Easy Button transaction for the td. It constituted an immense gamble, one done when a simple field goal could have won the game.
Third, we let the crowd speak. Mike Patrick, while denying the killing urges of the "voices in his head" (he described Tiger Stadium as so loud he couldn't hear the voices in his head, giving us a flash of the daily madness swirling in his mind) invoked the seismograph game, but got no thunder. While the crowd was loud, at least 30,000 fans seemed too stunned to believe what they'd seen and sat in meek, catatonic silence, cutting down on measurable vibrations at the lab. And not that fun, recreational taser-use stunned, either: a genuine, flabbergasted horrified kind of stunned set in, with most Tiger fans relieved not only to win, but to survive Mr. Toad's absurdly hazardous driving.
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She asked him about the play he called “during the timeout” the last timeout LSU took was in the third quarter i.e. stupid question by Holly McButterpants.
by drexyl on Oct 21, 2007 1:23 AM EDT reply actions
Extra style points for the Mr. Toad finisher there good sir.
by Hokie Andrew on Oct 21, 2007 1:25 AM EDT reply actions
Thank for confirming that not only are LSU fans ‘Kanye Crazy’/cat-striping crazy but that Les Miles is fucking crazy as well…I like it also that he thought there were 6 seconds on the clock when there were like, 6…
by jamiedawgfan on Oct 21, 2007 1:29 AM EDT reply actions
As drexyl noted, the problem wasn’t with Miles. It was with Rowe’s asking about the call “after the timeout”. She was probably too busy trying to hurry up and finish her 5th serving of jambalaya to pay attention during the final few plays.
by Texas_Dawg on Oct 21, 2007 1:36 AM EDT reply actions
How did Mike Patrick ever learn about the ‘seismograph game’?
by Allahver Fist on Oct 21, 2007 1:46 AM EDT reply actions
To beat the retard, you have to become the retard. Lester Miles just snatched the pebble from Tuberville’s palm.
by Dinknflicka on Oct 21, 2007 1:46 AM EDT reply actions
I noticed that also about the LSU fans at the end.
They had won the game, but it seemed like they were still stunned from that unbelievable finish. After winning a big, exciting game like that one, you would expect the crowd to be rocking when time expired on the kickoff. Instead, it was as if LSU had just beaten UL-Laff. based on the crowd reaction.
by Dave on Oct 21, 2007 1:48 AM EDT reply actions
I’m not even angry about this. If you give a retard enough throws at the dart board, eventually they’re going to hit the bull’s eye. Fortunately for LSU, Miles has hit them in a couple of opportune moments. Hopefully he can do it against Alabama as well.
by War Eagle on Oct 21, 2007 1:50 AM EDT reply actions
Les Miles’ playcalling of late makes me wonder if he thinks he’s playing a video game. How many times on NCAA or Madden do people go for it on 4th down or going for a TD instead of a field goal just because they can?
I guess this means Auburn got pwned.
by Smyth on Oct 21, 2007 2:16 AM EDT reply actions
Oh baloney. Get the fucking quote right EDSBS. Holly started that little interview by saying “Coach you called a timeout…” then asked him about the call. Except, he didn’t call a timeout before the last play call so he had no clue what she meant.
by BJ and The Bear on Oct 21, 2007 3:06 AM EDT reply actions
“First, Miles claims that they still had a time out, not realizing the clock had run down to one second, and that with one more hitch or qb scramble, the clock would have run dry and bled out any chances LSU would have had of winning, unburned timeout or not.”
First, the writer of this post doesn’t realize that the ball hit Byrd with four seconds and that the one second was a mistake by the clock managers. They don’t realize that an incomplete pass stops the clock, they get those three seconds back and try for a FG.
You do know that they had 18 seconds when they broke the huddle right? You think that’s not enough time to get off a back of the end zone type of pass?
by BJ and The Bear on Oct 21, 2007 3:12 AM EDT reply actions
I am so fahk king done with foobaw. I am 32 years olds with the circulatory and nervous systems of a 82 year old.
Who am i kidding? College football is the Ike Turner to my Tina.
And on the real, a big FUCK YOU to Auburn and their cheap shotting offensive line. Nice try twice on cutting Dorsey’s knees while he’s engaged with the LG. Sorry fuckers, you lose and it couldn’t happen to a better team and school. Fuck y’all.
by LSUJoshua on Oct 21, 2007 3:38 AM EDT reply actions
Alabama fan here, so presumably neutral (that is, I started out thinking I wanted them both to lose but could not help but pull for LSU as I watched). BJ and the Bear is correct – if the pass is incomplete, there are at least 4 seconds left and Miles can try the shaky Colt David. The last play wasn’t do or die, unless you have the not-unreasonable belief that trying David at that point is close to the “die” option. Miles is undeniably ballsy, but that play call was NOT by any means as ballsy as Mike Patrick claimed to think it was immediately afterwards. It is shocking how many seemingly otherwise intelligent observers have missed how much time really would have been left. Even in the ordered-to-be-unlikely event that Flynn had been sacked, I’m pretty sure LSU was ready to call that last timeout pretty quickly; if not, then OK, Miles is a gambling fool.
by rtr on Oct 21, 2007 3:47 AM EDT reply actions
The truth is less funny. I choose to the believe the lie.
by Biggus Rickus on Oct 21, 2007 7:05 AM EDT reply actions
If the pass was tipped and incomplete, there would be no time on the clock.
If there were 4 seconds on the clock, the refs should’ve put them back as AU could’ve fielded the kick, called TO, and taken a shot.
There was 1 second on the clock.
by NewAZTiger on Oct 21, 2007 8:23 AM EDT reply actions
@15
You’re right: the refs should have put the time back on the clock. And the refs would have had the clock actually run to zero. In that situation the clock would have been important enough to definitely trigger some replay action to get the clock set correctly.
Your conclusion: 1 second was correct. Your premise: that’s what the refs allowed, and there’s no way they could have been wrong. Ummm….
As it was, Tuberville probably should have lobbied for more time, but then I’m not really of the mind that 3 seconds is better than 1 on an end-game kickoff return.
by Troy on Oct 21, 2007 8:34 AM EDT reply actions
- - Les Miles IS a gambling fool. He’s just on a roll right now.
5/5 on 4th down vs UF, one hiccup gamble against UK, and a pass with the game on the line with 1 second left on the clock. In the past 3 games he has flirted with disaster and only been burned once. He’s like the guy at the blackjack table splitting face cards and beating the dealer. It’s stupid, but sometimes it works.
by NewAZTiger on Oct 21, 2007 8:44 AM EDT reply actions
1. Rowe was incorect; she asked about the play he called during the time out. That was why Les was confused.
2. It was a very gutsy/crazy call because there was :01 left on the clock. You can say that there would have been :04 left on the clock, but if you watched that last drive, the clock was slow to stop after most of the plays. At least 2 seconds rolled off after several plays where Flynn ran out of bounds.
3. We can all call Les Miles and idiot, stupid or a retard, but Les is laughing all the way to the BCS. His crazy calls and arrogance have LSU back in the hunt and helped them come back to beat Florida and Auburn. He has huge balls… in fact, Tebow and Q. Groves carry around for him during the week; he lets them off to go play their football games on Saturday.
by fotodog on Oct 21, 2007 8:44 AM EDT reply actions
Thighs-man Nominees this week:
Matt Ryan
Les Miles
by fotodog on Oct 21, 2007 8:47 AM EDT reply actions
It’s a good thing Miles has people to carry his balls, since his time is taken up toting around those of Andre Woodson, who in turn is burdened with those of Mr Tebow. It would be so much less confusing if everyone just carried their own testicles, but that’s not how we swing in fotodog’s world.
by peachy on Oct 21, 2007 9:49 AM EDT reply actions
From an unbiased Big Televen spectator…. I noticed early on that the clock operator seemed to be erratic all night…. Both on the last Auburn drive and LSU drive, time would continue to tick 2 to 3 seconds after the ref signaled for it to stop on out of bounds plays and first downs. That being said I cant believe he made that call. I guess Im just used to clocks in Ann Arbor that add time.
(Also get the feeling BJ was a little upset at coming home alone last night at 2AM?)
Formerly Lion4Life
by Lion4$190 on Oct 21, 2007 10:04 AM EDT reply actions
Hmm.
The LSU coaches might consider a game plan for the first half (see e.g., Florida, Auburn). Doing so could obviate the need for some of the balsiness.
The calls vs. Florida were ballsy but in context calculated and understandable. The transgeversations relating to the clock nothwithstanding that last call against Auburn had nearly as much cluelesness and lunacy as testicular overabundance.
by marcillac on Oct 21, 2007 10:15 AM EDT reply actions
4 seconds, 1 second — whatever. I can’t believe the fool didn’t have his QB fall down in the middle of the field. The only thing worse than Colt David from 40 yards is Colt David from 40 yards from the right hash.
by RIP Logan Young on Oct 21, 2007 10:23 AM EDT reply actions
Am I the only one that heard Les’ response to Butterpants’ question about the “last timeout call” as:
“We had an opportunity to kick their ass…”?
by Tricky Dick on Oct 21, 2007 10:28 AM EDT reply actions
To that cunt Auburn freshman lineman who tried to cripple Dorsey with a clearly illegal and clearly intentional chop block: You have three more years to play against LSU you pillow biting bedwetter!
by Rifle on Oct 21, 2007 10:31 AM EDT reply actions
by Tricky Dick on Oct 21, 2007 10:42 AM EDT reply actions
I thought I heard the “Kick Their Ass” comment too…
by ALGator on Oct 21, 2007 10:49 AM EDT reply actions
Seemed like a battle of dumb and dumber…why in the world did Auburn not just kick it deep or kick it out of bounce and give it to them on the 35? That was the biggest mistake of the game; had the last play turned out differently that would’ve been the biggest mistake of the game.
Does anyone else agree that perhaps the new kickoff rule could be the reason for so many upsets and crazy games like last night?
by The Artist Formerly Known as tOSUBuckeyes on Oct 21, 2007 10:55 AM EDT reply actions
LSU is obviously good, but every time they win on some ridiculously ballsy playcall, I lose respect for them. LSU is far and away more talented than Auburn, but played 3 shitty quarters and let Auburn hang around. LSU plays down to opponents. That being said, I have no desire to see any team I cheer for play LSU, for no other reason than I don’t want my team to be known as the team that lost on a quintuple reverse option halfback pass for 95 yards and a winning touchdown with no time on the clock.
In short, I salute you Les Miles, and all your crazy bullshit plays.
by BeardGuy on Oct 21, 2007 10:58 AM EDT reply actions
I would respectfully point out to Les Miles that winning on a last second (or 4 seconds—whatever) touchdown is not exactly kicking someone’s ass. I wouldn’t want the guy as my coach, but I have to admit—he’s entertaining.
by CKGator on Oct 21, 2007 11:33 AM EDT reply actions
I was at the game, in the student section. We weren’t sitting in stunned silence, nor meekly waiting. We were screaming “Call the Timeout!,” “Call the Motherfucking Timeout you idiot!” right up to the touchdown catch. Then there was a pause and then an explosion. Maybe some of the fancypants attendees were rocked into submission, but in the student ghetto, the crowd was loud and proud. And then relieved to have dodged such an obvious bullet.
Miles is either a madman or a genius, but he cannot be both. Time and space cannot handle such an anomaly.
by jeneria on Oct 21, 2007 11:59 AM EDT reply actions
Am I missing something? The call was a quick throw to Byrd with 8 seconds left… if Byrd drops it, they review the tape and confirm that there are 3 seconds left on the clock. Seriously, is this even a gamble? I’d make the same call.
Also, a possible explanation for the stunned/silent crowd reaction was the location of the touchdown catch. I’ve heard several people say it looked like Auburn intercepted it from their perspective in the stadium. Only the students were able to see it up close.
by HTF on Oct 21, 2007 12:03 PM EDT reply actions
Well Michigan fans, at least next year with Miles as your coach, there will never be a dull moment. No blowouts, just slight of hand, pyrotechnics, misdirection, smoke and mirrors, and some lucky guesswork, voodoo math, pulleys and levers, trapdoor plays and an Charlie Manson calling the offense. IF he doesnt go to Michigan, we will see him on he World Poker Tour, going “all-in” before the deal while holding no face cards ……..think about it…….his season is based on bluffs and lucky bullshit….or like playing Blackjack, and the dealer has 20, he has 20, and takes a hit, and gets dealt an ACE for Gods sake. Damn him to hell………I hope Saban beats him the same way he beat Tennessee, where the last minute doesnt mean shit and Andre Smith can man handle that overrated gimped up Glenn Dorsey.
by Mr Pelican Pants on Oct 21, 2007 12:05 PM EDT reply actions
Miles said to Holly, “We knew we had an opportunity to kick thereafter,” not “kick their ass.” Although it turned out to be the same thing.
by Steve R. on Oct 21, 2007 12:10 PM EDT reply actions
Why is it that no one has touched on the possibility that Miles is bipolar?
He calls balls to the walls plays, or gambles, in wins over South Carolina and Florida, then becomes irrationally conservative in OT versus Kentucky, then calls that insane play in the closing seconds of the Auburn game?
I guess you could argue that calling 4 consecutive running plays against Kentucky was beyond ballsy as well from a stupidity standpoint, too.
Whatever, that game was insane, and the UVa people watching in the other room at the bar were more quiet than I was, by myself, while they watched Maryland get “Groh’d.”
How UVa keeps winning is beyond, beyond, beyond, me.
by Coop on Oct 21, 2007 12:20 PM EDT reply actions
Final 53 Seconds:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8Jh0clroEg
I agree that it was completely understandable that Miles looked confused by Rowe’s question because of the “timeout” reference in the question.
If the ball is incomplete and the clock operator allows 1-4 seconds to expire, do you really think that this play is not reviewed. Consider the BCS implications and location of game. Ballsy call nonetheless. Love the idea that a one on one matchup, with the ball traveling 50+ yards in the air(Flynn threw from 29yd line, right hash, to 6yds deep in end zone, left corner), decides a game that carries so much weight in both conference and national standings.
Devil’s advocate: Should LSU receive the amount of praise they get when all “big time” wins are at home? Not so sure LSU is in the top 15 if FLA and Auburn are played on the road.
by JoeSAV on Oct 21, 2007 12:32 PM EDT reply actions
irrationally conservative in OT versus Kentucky,
Is that what the definition of a D lineman smacking the QB in the head for a personal foul is? Irationally conservative?
by bnb614 on Oct 21, 2007 12:58 PM EDT reply actions
The only difference between Les and a madman is that Les is not mad.
by Salvador Dali on Oct 21, 2007 1:19 PM EDT reply actions
“2. It was a very gutsy/crazy call because there was :01 left on the clock. You can say that there would have been :04 left on the clock.”
I’m only saying it because, ya know, it’s like, the truth? If time had run out they would have gotten the correct time back. Whether they noticed previous bad clock officiating or not, they would have asked for their time back and would have felt confident that there was enough time to get the play off in reality as opposed in the world were 3 extra seconds ticking off after every play and there’s never anything you can do about. Reality tends to win when you’re asking for the correct time to be set.
by BJ and The Bear on Oct 21, 2007 1:27 PM EDT reply actions
Les Miles is the luckiest retard on the face of the planet. There would have been time on the clock had the pass been incomplete, but it could have easily been picked off or resulted in a sack. The DB had great coverage, it was just a perfect pass and the DB didn’t look back for the ball. As a side note, Auburn got fucked on that 6 men on the LOS call and on the 3rd down spot at the end of the game. It might not have mattered anyway, but those two things pissed me off. Finally, if I ever see another squib kick when all the other team needs is a field goal to win the game, I am going to vomit.
by karlhungus12 on Oct 21, 2007 1:38 PM EDT reply actions
this was me in my nyc living room last night…
“sat in meek, catatonic silence, cutting down on measurable vibrations at the lab. And not that fun, recreational taser-use stunned, either: a genuine, flabbergasted horrified kind of stunned set in, with most Tiger fans relieved not only to win, but to survive Mr. Toad’s absurdly hazardous driving.”
you absolutely nailed it. so often i find our talent willing itself to victories in spite of what the sideline does.
i will say this in defense of miles though…i agree on taking a shot at the end zone, it just could have been done so much more time efficiently. a colt david field goal attempt isn’t exactly money in the bank.
wow…i’m still stunned
by the cajun boy on Oct 21, 2007 1:51 PM EDT reply actions
What’s astonishing to me is how Les Miles elephantitis is completely bailing out Tuberville’s clock mismanagement. Tuberville had timeouts to burn which could have enabled him to preserve enough clock to do something useful with the ball.
by Albino Tornado on Oct 21, 2007 2:01 PM EDT reply actions
Your post is kind of silly. Miles made a “Holy Buckeye” call because he had plenty of time. How is everyone saying the clock would run out? This is obsurd!!! If the pass was to be incomplete, the clock would NOT have run out. Watch the replay. Even after the TD catch, the clock was still at 4 seconds, with 3 seconds magically disappearing. If the pass was to be incomplete, there would have been a FG try to tie the game. You all just like to pretend like it’s Hollywood, especially the author here. Brilliant call! Just give him the credit he deserves and the players for executing it.
by cfbwizard on Oct 21, 2007 2:02 PM EDT reply actions
i meant win the game, not tie the game in my last post.
by cfbwizard on Oct 21, 2007 2:03 PM EDT reply actions
I think it’s worth pointing out that the field goal would have been in the mid-40s in range, from the side hash mark.
Given the combination of surprise and the fact that such a field goal isn’t a gimme by any means, I can’t say I fault Les Miles. I’d have kicked the damn field goal and assumed my defense could keep Auburn out of field goal range. But I understand why he opted for the touchdown.
by GTSteve on Oct 21, 2007 2:13 PM EDT reply actions
and about the supposed “kick their ass” comment.
i just referenced my DVRed game coverage and here’s what he said…
“…and we knew that we had the opportunity to kick thereafter.”
“thereafter” and not “their ass.”
by the cajun boy on Oct 21, 2007 2:15 PM EDT reply actions
For as long as it lasts:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=w0RrW9yO_8U
Butterpants: Coach, you called timeout, what happened next? Take us through that process with your decision there.
Miles: On what?
Butterpants: The last touchdown…
by Unhappy Monkey on Oct 21, 2007 2:49 PM EDT reply actions
I don’t get the slamming on Miles. It was third down. An incomplete pass stops the clock. THEN you attempt the field goal. I was as surprised as anyone when he threw it into the endzone, but I really don’t see how it was that much of a gamble.
Holly McFatAss asked Miles about the play after the timeout. When was that Holly? Back in the 3rd quarter?
by Russ on Oct 21, 2007 3:44 PM EDT reply actions
My perception of who was lucky was the LSU quarterback (Matt Flynn). The ball he threw was actually poorly placed – it was on the receiver’s insider shoulder and could have been picked. The proper throw there is to the receiver’s outside shoulder so it is either caught or falls incomplete and and interception is never a possibility. Flynn will get credit for making a play because it worked out. But there was a lot of room between where that ball was caught and the back corner.
by maskedavenger on Oct 21, 2007 3:48 PM EDT reply actions
People are slamming him because:
1) a sack leaves you with a very long field goal after the timeout
2) an interception fucks you completely
3) running the clock to 1 second and kicking a field is far and away smarter than risking the game with a long pass
In short, people are slamming Miles for taking needless risks that could cost the game. It worked out for him this week, and it worked for him against Florida, but his ridiculous play calling cost them against Kentucky. I rather expect it to cost them further games this season.
by BeardGuy on Oct 21, 2007 3:50 PM EDT reply actions
Sloppy work from the excellent EDSBS crew (OK, I’ll give you that this went down at like 1 a.m. and you had to be almost to passed-out mode after the UF / UK game). Fatty Rowe asked a completely uninformed question, which is what threw Leslie. And ESPN’s announcers were just stupid with this crap about time running out if the catch wasn’t made. Don’t fall for that.
Brilliant call (Byrd tipped off Crowton to the fact that he’d be getting single coverage in that drive – not all game like you said) and kudos to Leslie for going with it. There was plenty of time to run it; the play actually ended with 4 seconds left, and great calls happen when the other team isn’t expecting it.
Corndog THIS, Auburn.
by Cap'n Ken on Oct 21, 2007 4:01 PM EDT reply actions
- you obviously don’t follow LSU, Colt David is Cold David when it comes to clutch kicks, the kid just sucks.
There really should have been more seconds on the clock at the end of the play anyways, the refs should have added the time.
by purpleheart on Oct 21, 2007 4:28 PM EDT reply actions
One more thing – why not a 2-point conversion? If by some miracle of God Auburn were to score on a home-run throwback or some other sort of kick-return trickery wouldn’t is being up 6 really going to do that much for you?
by maskedavenger on Oct 21, 2007 4:32 PM EDT reply actions
Holly Rowe-ly Poly had a terrible game last night. How she managed to get as far as she had while being a vacuous moron is beyond me.
And if you watch the replay…it’s pretty clear LSU would have had time to try the FG after the pass. There would have been AT LEAST :01 left on the clock.
An unexpected call, but not a bad one. Also don’t fault Tuberville for not using his timeouts…he knew that LSU was already in FG range (partly of his doing), and their best shot at winning the game was to weather the storm. Too bad LSU went Katrina on their ass.
by Gentleman Masher on Oct 21, 2007 4:35 PM EDT reply actions
Les Miles didn’t say, "Kick Their Ass," he said “kick thereafter,” although it did sound humorously similar—sort of like the “facerape” comment I guess.
And, by the way, the call was sound. I was thinking that Miles should call a timeout, and then run an out route for a first down, thus giving you a shorter field goal, but there’s nothing wrong in theory with taking a chance in the end zone since Auburn had been covering LSU’s best receivers on an island all game.
The clock wasn’t even close to running out, either. A bobble would have been no different from an incompletion.
by Brian on Oct 21, 2007 4:38 PM EDT reply actions
Watch the replay. That was solid gold endgame strategy.
As soon as they got in reasonable FG range, LSU has a good chance at the win and they want the clock to roll. Every second that ticked off lessened Auburn’s chance of mounting a comeback.
Since Tuberville locked up and decided to eat his TO’s Urban Meyer style, Les played it smart and milked out one shot at the corner. Any issues with time management are on Flynn. He took too long to get the play off and shaved their margin of error to zero.
Sure the pass could have been tipped / intercepted / bobbled. Or Flynn could have been sacked. Similar issues can derail the FG – fumble / miss / block. Every play has good / bad outcomes. Trusting a senior QB, while basically eliminating any chance of an Auburn comeback is commendable and shrewd.
by Mon-L on Oct 21, 2007 4:39 PM EDT reply actions
I’ll throw my hat in with the others to say that Holly was the idiot: she asked about the play after the timeout. Miles may have even knew what she was talking about and was giving her a hard time because he intentionally did not call a timeout.
Why is everyone saying the play was such a gamble? Here’s the gamble… trusting Colt David to hit a long FG or lose. Even with the poor clock operation burning extra time, there was still :01 left to kick the FG. All you doubters are saying that a FG attempt is better than a TD attempt followed by a FG attempt… think about that for a sec.
by Chinese Bandit on Oct 21, 2007 4:53 PM EDT reply actions
Oh, and let me also voice my agreement with LSUJoshua about those dirty ass blocks against Dorsey. Those should have been called, but I’m fairly certain Auburn brings their refs for every LSU game. Those high-lows are illegal, dirty, and classless. But why should we be surprised? Tuberville’s all about class, right?
by Chinese Bandit on Oct 21, 2007 4:55 PM EDT reply actions
@30: He said “kick there after.”
He knew there would be time to kick there after the pass, if necessary.
by Chinese Bandit on Oct 21, 2007 4:58 PM EDT reply actions
Maybe she was fed something like “Ask him why he called that play even though he had a timeout left” and, in typical telephone game fashion, it came out the way it did.
by PW on Oct 21, 2007 5:18 PM EDT reply actions
i think i puked my mouth a little bit when LSU got that touchdown. Les Miles is totally a retard, but a ballsy retard at that. mostly as an Auburn fan i was screaming my head off about how Tubby was pissing the game away by being stupid and not kicking it deep with that much time left on the clock and just hoping they wouldn’t get a field goal, and then the fact he doesn’t call a single timeout on the final drive so that Auburn would have some time left in case LSU did score was totally moronic. i love tubberville and think he’s mostly a great coach, but WTF? you have a chance to knock off LSU and take command of the SEC West and then just turn around and choke on a fat cock like that. this is why i hate/love college football.
by suicidewatch on Oct 21, 2007 5:18 PM EDT reply actions
Scout.com predicts that LSU loses to ’Bama, but finishes 12-1 and in plays in the Sugar Bowl. Why am I confused? Is Bayou math different from school math?
by Zone Left on Oct 21, 2007 5:18 PM EDT reply actions
Is it just me or is that picture of Miles kinda Colbert-esqe.
After all, he’s put everyone on notice…
by Randomly Firing Neurons on Oct 21, 2007 5:19 PM EDT reply actions
Les Miles is the Rain Man…the idiot savant of college football…during the game winning drive all the coaches heard over the intercom was:
Les: Score TD…bullocks…one second…TD…
LSU OC: Coach? Wah?
Les: Score TD…six…six points…one second…bullocks…bullocks…TD…call the TD…bullocks….TD…Bullocks!
by Alagator on Oct 21, 2007 5:28 PM EDT reply actions
Yet another sign that football in the south just matters so much more than in other areas of the country – even our women’s magazines have a college football special section. I sat down in the “library” this morning for my daily constitutional, and my lovely bride had left her Southern Living magazine out for me, opened to the special southern college football preview. In addition to pointing out some of the big games this fall, they had some smashing recipes for tailgating, and some nice fall fashions.
by Russ on Oct 21, 2007 5:52 PM EDT reply actions
I think I’m willing to predict the BCS championship game: OSU-LSU, the game goes to 18 overtimes and no one scores at all. The game is called and both teams are sent home in disgrace. The SEC claims conference superiority since their shameful trip home is shorter, and the Big Ten sucks since they have to take a plane home.
by BeardGuy on Oct 21, 2007 6:02 PM EDT reply actions
“LSU OC: Coach? Wah?”
Crowton made the call Sonny.
by BJ and The Bear on Oct 21, 2007 6:55 PM EDT reply actions
Call me Whereyabeen McLatetotheparty, but:
- made me laugh until I cried. I’m just sayin’.
by TV Guy on Oct 21, 2007 7:38 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah that call made the hair on the back of my neck stand up but, man, that’s the way to play. As several posters said, lots of things could go wrong with a FG attempt, too. The game is filled with risks.
If you don’t trust your veteran players enough to give them opportunities to make game-winning plays without making game-losing mistakes, they why are you even coaching? Just retire and let somebody else take over who treats it like a game to be won and not their life to be lost. That’s what’s driving us batty up here in Ann Arbor.
by Two cheers for LLLoyd on Oct 21, 2007 8:13 PM EDT reply actions
Gamble? Hell, that wasn’t even a gamble. The clock in Tiger Stadium has a history of being…magical. If LSU had needed an extra second on the clock to kick the FG, it would have appeared on the game clock. Just ask Bert Jones.
From The Clarion Ledger, November 19, 2003 By Rick Cleveland:
In 1972, four seconds remained. LSU, trailing 16-10, had the ball at the Ole Miss 10-yard-line. Bert Jones dropped back 10 yards into the pocket to throw, pumped one way and then threw incomplete. Incredibly, the clock still showed one second. Jones then threw for a touchdown and a 17-16 LSU victory, prompting Ole Miss fans to erect a sign at the Mississippi-Louisiana state line: “You are now entering Louisiana. Set your clocks back four seconds.”
by DoyleJacksonlikesthepenis on Oct 21, 2007 8:38 PM EDT reply actions
whitlow thinks I puked my mouth a little bit when LSU got that touchdown. Jay Whitlow says Les Miles is totally a retard, but a ballsy retard says whitlow at that. mostly as an Auburn fan whitlow was screaming my whitlow head off about how Tubbyand sammie and whitlow were pissing the game away by being stupid and not kicking whitlow deep with that much time left on the whitlow’s clock and just hoping whitlow wouldn’t get a field goal, and then the fact whitlow doesn’t call a single timeout on the final drive so that Auburn, according to whitlow, would have some time left in case LSU did score was totally moronic and i have to agree with whitlow on that . i love tubberville and whitlow and whitlow think she’s mostly a great coach, but WTF? whitlow has a chance to knock off LSU and take command of whitlow and the SEC West and then just turn around and choke whitlow on a fat clock like that. this is why whitlow and i hate/love college football.
by eric y on Oct 21, 2007 9:08 PM EDT reply actions
I agree with Captain Ken. EDSBS crew missed the boat on this. More importantly, so did Dish Network- my dvr stopped recording with 12 minutes left on the clock. It cut to live tv mode on the last play of the game with the announcers yelling about the incredible finish. All oDish
by Fred Sanford on Oct 21, 2007 9:28 PM EDT reply actions
was trying to say all of the following suck:
Dish Network
ESPN for babbling on so long
Holly Rowe (you know why)
Tuberville
George Bush
oh and lets add this laptop to the list
by Fred Sanford on Oct 21, 2007 9:34 PM EDT reply actions
- - AU is 11th in the SEC on kickoff coverage. LSU is like #2 in the nation on kickoff returns. The squib kicks were good coaching in order to neutralize a huge advantage that LSU has over AU. We lost the USF game by kicking it deep and giving up a huge return.
The last squib kick was the right thing to do, but the bounce went bad.
It was good coaching with a bad result.
In contrast, playing a soft zone against Florida for 4 entire quarters was bad coaching with a bad result.
by Brandon Cox's Vagina on Oct 21, 2007 10:24 PM EDT reply actions
Observations from a Buckeye fan who attended the game.
First, I want to congratulate the LSU fans on how classy and welcoming they were. My friend and I walked around campus from 11am with our Ohio State shirts on, and while we naturally received our share of negative reinforcement, we were fed beers, bbq and football talk all day.
Also, congratulations on your women. The only place where I’ve seen a better collection of talent is Krakow. The Auburn girls in attendance represented well too. Having to leave Baton Rouge to go back home to the meh girls of DC makes baby George Clooney cry.
The actual gametime experience was great too, although I wasn’t as overwhelmed as I thought I would be. The crowd (in the south end zone at least) was a bit down in the first half. It’s true, the reaction of the crowd at the end of the game was a bit bewildered. Everyone was terrified by MIles’ clock management and then when Byrd hauled it in, stunned relief exploded. The student section impressed. A big game in the Horseshoe is just as crazy, loud and intimidating.
- sums it up as to why Miles is taking flak. Too much risk. But when it works…cajones. I think the criticism also (over)flows from his horrible clock management in the first half.
All proof that College Football is King.
by Felix Krull on Oct 21, 2007 10:24 PM EDT reply actions
- For Auburn doesn’t look at the ball, all he does is face gaurd. USF knows, LSU knows, Fucking Holly rowe knows it. He should have 20 ints this year if the bastard would look for the ball. That Flynn pass looked like it was thrown to him. LSU realized you can throw to his man like he’s wide open.
And no one mentioned the first down LSU got on that final drive where the player was clearly short and got a wonderful spot. Why the hell wasn’t that challenged?
by Football Diet on Oct 21, 2007 10:49 PM EDT reply actions
- I think LSU has become the non-gamecock USC of the SEC. That was mad-bastard football at its finest. Even if I thought that the Trojans looked like they were going to claw their way back into contending for an MNC (I don’t, they won’t), I couldn’t have brought myself to be pro-Tubbs in that game. I would have been hollering about the winning TD for LSU if my jaw hadn’t been on the floor.
by DC Trojan on Oct 21, 2007 11:43 PM EDT reply actions
This has to be the best Lou Holthz impression ever:
Gentlemen, behold! Fake Lou Holtz
by Mr Pelican Pants on Oct 22, 2007 12:28 AM EDT reply actions
And on the real, a big FUCK YOU to Auburn and their cheap shotting offensive line. Nice try twice on cutting Dorsey’s knees while he’s engaged with the LG. Sorry fuckers, you lose and it couldn’t happen to a better team and school. Fuck y’all.
http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/mobileregister/index.ssf?/base/sports/1193044949154740.xml&coll=3
by MiseanAUFan on Oct 22, 2007 7:16 AM EDT reply actions
Check that link from #81. Tuberville apologized for the block, but said it wasn’t intentional OR called by the coaches.
Tuberville: “I hate it happened to (Dorsey), because he came back to get his degree and finish out in college football. He’s a great kid, works hard and plays hard.” Yeah, no class there at all.
And ask Andre Woodson if LSU has ever taken a cheap shot.
http://thewizardofodds.blogspot.com/2007/10/louisiana-state-cheapie-chop.html
by WDamnE on Oct 22, 2007 9:07 AM EDT reply actions
Now it’s no longer #81’s post, it just changed to 82’s. So just check out MiseanAUFan’s link.
by WDamnE on Oct 22, 2007 9:49 AM EDT reply actions
Pay no attention to the man behind the hat.
by Hobnail_Boot on Oct 22, 2007 10:03 AM EDT reply actions
A big hearty YUCK FOU to any and all who thinks Auburn carried their refs to the game. As karlhungus12 pointed out, AU got face-raped twice: the Hester TD pass (only 6 men on the line) and the spot on the 3rd down run by Murphy (hmm, lets let the player spot the ball himself). Funny how the announcers spoke up on both those plays. Still, AU made their bed by not scoring in the 3rd quarter and by not kicking deep on the last kickoff.
And oh yeah, the next person who utters “They control their own destiny” gets bludgeoned to death with Bea Arthur’s dick.
by Lovecrafty on Oct 22, 2007 10:13 AM EDT reply actions
Auburn/LSU games have always had some calls that could go either way but I must say that the shot on Woodson does not compare to the shot on Dorsey. Also the shot on Woodson resulted in a flag that some could argue helped in UK winning the game. If you look at the last four Auburn/LSU games Auburn has gotten away with their fair share of terrible calls to help in coming up with the big win. I tell you that none of us play on that field, but if that was your son or father or any part of your family you see a career ending injury. It was dirty football and it disgraces college football and Auburn football. Every team out there has lost their heads in the passion of the game but this should not be tolerated and due to the lack of response by Auburn fans on this page concerning this matter I trust deep down they know it was dirty as well. I love this game of college football but I never desire one of those players to be injured. It is the players who give us this great game and Auburn football should play with that level of respect as should any team, and cheap shots like the one on Dorsey is disrespecting the game, players, and the privilage to play the game.
by renegade182 on Oct 22, 2007 5:13 PM EDT reply actions
renegade182,
I think you’ve seen a lot of Auburn fans talking about the block, and if not on this thread, check out the other ones on EDSBS. But, if you don’t think Auburn fans are discussing this, then I will.
I don’t think it was intentional and I don’t think it was called by Auburn’s coaches.
And I was completely embarrassed by it. I was embarrassed when it happened, and I’m embarrassed now. So is coach Tuberville – he apologized for it. Even though I think it was a heat of the moment unintentional act of an 18-year-old, it was still wrong. That’s not the way Auburn should conduct itself and I hope I never see us do anything like that again.
by WDamnE on Oct 22, 2007 6:42 PM EDT reply actions
WDamnE,
Thank you for your comment this was a classic Auburn/LSU game no matter what the rankings we always come ready for a battle when our two teams meet. As I said in my last post I just don’t wish for players to be injured for any reason. As you said they are just kids (with a great talent) and we as the fans should remember this when we are ranting about the games, and you are correct I have not seen the other threads. We will just have to agree to disagree when it comes to the matter of it being unintentional. I believe it was but as you point out it was done by one player and not the whole team, that I agree with. Good Luck with the rest of the season and remember most LSU fans think the same way I do. We welcome great games like this one.
by renegade182 on Oct 22, 2007 6:56 PM EDT reply actions
renegade182,
No argument on one point – it was a great game! I even liked the insane call for a pass at the end. Bear in mind, when I say Les Miles is barking mad, I mean that as a compliment. I hope he stays at LSU a long time, he’s the kind of coach you want to watch.
by WDamnE on Oct 23, 2007 8:58 AM EDT reply actions

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