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BLOGPOLL, WEEK EIGHT: COVERING THE HINDQUARTERS

You lose points for lutefisk.

Polling is becoming like composing the UN's HDI rankings: at the top, you've got indisputably happy football people quibbling over the tiniest and most subjective of details.

Norway: We have universal health care and the highest standards of living in the world.

Denmark: We have the same, and we have butter cookies.

Norway: Your butter cookies suck the nasty diseased taint of our fine pickled fish products.

Denmark: We have liberal sexual mores.

Norway: We, too, have liberal sexual mores, and no rampant kiddie porn problem.

Denmark: Oh yeah? Well, that is a valid point.

Then there's the middlins, who have one glaring weakness they can't possibly help, like South Korea's situation with having a crazy, psychotic, and very well-armed brother just over the fence, or Florida's dazzlingly talented yet immature youth movement. These are followed by the bottom dwellers of the rest of the top. Think of Hawaii as South Africa: Exotic! Exciting! Awesome relative to its neighbors, but still not punching G8 weight! But have you seen our lions and dazzling gold jewelry!

This week's abomination is below. One clarification: our ballot below is the corrected ballot, which was not the hasty-as-usual ballot crapped into Brian's inbox this a.m. that had--among other errors, a rise in Cincy after a loss, a few curious bunches of teams in the same conference, and a vote for ice cream at eight. Because we really, really wanted some ice cream this morning. Again, we remind you:

1. The arrows mean nothing.
2. We fucked up.
3. We're clearly an ass. Asses. Damn plural first person...

Off with our heads, and on with the ballot...

Rank Team Delta
1 Ohio State --
2 Oklahoma --
3 South Florida --
4 LSU --
5 South Carolina --
6 Boston College --
7 Kentucky --
8 Arizona State 1
9 Kansas 1
10 Missouri 2
11 California 2
12 Oregon 2
13 Texas 2
14 Southern Cal 1
15 Florida 1
16 Penn State 1
17 Auburn 1
18 Cincinnati 10
19 Texas Tech --
20 West Virginia --
21 Tennessee --
22 Illinois --
23 Virginia Tech --
24 Hawaii --
25 Wisconsin --

Dropped Out:

Clarifications, errata, and outright shames.

WHA OK? Yes, Oklahoma. If you wonder what the methodology is, it's a hybrid of resume balloting and truthiness subject to coffee, mood, and whatever we saw in the intestines of our daily pigeon kill this morning. (Augury--it's what's for breakfast.)

Which means that at this point, it's absolute value voting, and that's the absolute value we see. Boston College helped this by not trouncing Notre Dame, or even scoring as many points as Purdue did against the Irish. And South Florida could prove us very wrong by running Rutgers over with their Charismatic Fiero of Tampa Bay Area triumph. But for the top ten, that's our value, with two notable creepers...

The last midgets up the hill. Arizona State may have peaked on the year with this ballot, since they're both going into the grinding end of their conference schedule. Kansas, though, could pop up a few more spots over the rest of their angel-soft schedule. Their real bid for top 5 comes with a defeat of resilient Missouri and an appearance in the Big 12 Championship game. For an instant, the picture of Kansas in the national title game just flashed across our consciousness. We saw the Eternal Footman hold our coat, and snicker, and in short, we were afraid.

Climbers: Pretty much anyone between the 11-20 spots, really. We think brand name bargains are a-plenty down here, since many are retooling in angry fashion. Texas has begun this process, and we think Florida will do the same. This is the point in the movie where the soft version of the heroic theme song is playing, and they're working out in montage at the gym like a madman. Or puking their puppet guts up in an alley in a drunken wallow of self-pity (see: USC.)

Texas Tech is always the dark horse in the Big 12, but keep an eye on them for real now that their defense isn't playing under some exotic curse.

The rest? A glorious mess, of course.

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I’m pretty sure Mrs. DG’s uncle owns one of those tee-shirts.

by DevilGrad on Oct 17, 2007 12:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn. If we could lose to Oklahoma 2 more times we could get into the top 5.

sigh

by bitterhorn on Oct 17, 2007 12:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Kansas will stumble this weekend and i will be there to witness it in all its glory

by babaoje on Oct 17, 2007 12:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Oklahoma at 2? Ewww. I’ve seen this from a few bloggers and I don’t get it. I understand the love for LSU, the other SEC teams and Oregon/Cal. But why OU? Their loss is worse than the ones suffered by LSU, USCe, KY, Oregon and West Virginia. Heck, it’s worse than Tennessee’s two losses combined!

They should’ve lost to Missouri but the Tigers self-destructed. Texas is no good. I’m just lost on the OU love.

by Edsall is God on Oct 17, 2007 12:29 PM EDT reply actions  

You left UGA out of this just so you could do that ‘dazzling gold jewelry bit’, eh?

by Rather be in Amsterdam on Oct 17, 2007 12:31 PM EDT reply actions  

"We realize we’re not the sixth-best team in the country," Steve Spurrier said Tuesday.

So Orson took his savior’s words to heart and voted us…fifth? Really? Did anyone out there even watch the UNC game?

by Dr. StrangeCock on Oct 17, 2007 12:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Defense gets them that fifth vote. But that’s right now. If they lose again, we’ll happily kick them down the hill.

by Orson Swindle on Oct 17, 2007 12:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I come for the football, but the bachelor of English in me stays for the Eliot references.

by Dave on Oct 17, 2007 12:35 PM EDT reply actions  

That’s what I’ve been saying…..haruspicy is by far the best method of coming up with a blogpoll ballot.

by wilbur on Oct 17, 2007 12:42 PM EDT reply actions  

S. Carolina could have beaten UNC by 3 TDs if they had wanted, they just chose not to (thus, ruining my 2-team parlay…@#$%!).

Anyway – I hope Wisconsin enjoys the plush confines of the Top 25. The ORV Hotel, with it’s 10 year old mattresses, is beckoning.

by Gentleman Masher on Oct 17, 2007 12:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Uff Da!

Lutefisk – It builds character. Bump Norway over Denmark just for that reason, butter cookies be damned.

by Sean on Oct 17, 2007 12:48 PM EDT reply actions  

But beware – Once your girlfriend/wife discovers that you are willing to eat lutefisk, your excuses for not supplying oral sex evaporate.

by Sean on Oct 17, 2007 12:51 PM EDT reply actions  

I think this screwed up midseason should be the perfect excuse to reinsert Duke at #25.

by Allahver Fist on Oct 17, 2007 12:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Jesusgod, if I lutefisk was appropriate adjectivity for my wife, life wouldn’t be nearly this sunny.

by Rather be in Amsterdam on Oct 17, 2007 1:07 PM EDT reply actions  

I’ll take Ice Cream with the points to beat Michigan.

by Boardmaster Brian on Oct 17, 2007 1:08 PM EDT reply actions  

At this point, you could almost put anyone from the top ten into the top spot, because it’s pretty unlikey that ANYONE will escape this season undefeated with the possible exception of Kansas, and even then . . . who aside from Kansas homers would put them up top?

BTW, any takers for this domesday MNC scenario:
USF v. Kansas

We could call it the “Fuck It, Who Knows” Bowl, brought to you by Chik-fil-a

by The Bull-Gator on Oct 17, 2007 1:19 PM EDT reply actions  

With all due respect to Boardmaster Brian (because I would agree with him, depending on the flavor of the ice cream), Penn State at 16, but Michigan unranked? Wisconsin still ranked?

by Anon on Oct 17, 2007 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Orson,
 
Isn’t Nick Saban actually the GOD of Mammon.

by Bobby Lowder's Checkbook on Oct 17, 2007 1:27 PM EDT reply actions  

You can’t make this stuff up.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3067426

by Bobby Lowder's Checkbook on Oct 17, 2007 1:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Guessing you have covered this in the past Orson, but your poll seems more of an attempt at predicting the outcome of the season and less of a reflection of each team’s resume to date. I would think that it should be the other way around.

Using USF as an example…

I know that you and others expect USF to fall off at some point — some as soon as this weekend against Rutgers. But still, doesn’t their undefeated status including wins at Auburn and over WFV mean that they have accomplished the most so far?

Has OSU really shown more than USF this year? What about Oklahoma and their loss to Colorado?

At any rate, I would suggest that USF has won the most impressive games so far and if they are a pretender, then they will fall on their own and should be moved down then. But suppose you and the pundits are wrong and USF runs the slate? Then are you willing to put them ahead of and undefeated OSU? Keep in mind that OSU has 1 AP ranked team on their ENTIRE schedule, and that is Michigan at #25, which will likely not be ranked at all after losing to OSU. I mean the big ten may as well be a mid major conference this year and OSU is going to walk right into the Superdome with no credentials.

This predictive mentality is what I would expect a renegade site like EDSBS to be trying to fight and not perpetuate.

by TIGERinATL on Oct 17, 2007 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

  1. - The Wannstache not on the sidelines? Sounds like Pitt’s chances of pulling the upset just got alot better!

by Gentleman Masher on Oct 17, 2007 1:49 PM EDT reply actions  

I guess the “Legacy” line of thought is too powerful. Many people (coaches & voters) would rather stick with a program with history (OSU) than one without, despite what would appear to be better wins. But hey, objectivity is hard to come by sometimes.

On the same token, when you have a coaching staff like OSU’s, it’s hard not to think they are a good team based on coaching and past recuiting efforts. USF hasn’t had the same level of recuiting prowess as OSU in it’s history, and has risen like a lightning bolt up the rankings and has been helped lately by the fall of so many other teams.

Plus, USF has a nasty habit of turnovers. Grothe can make some silly/dumb passes at times and fumbles are a way of life. The thinking probably is that eventually some team is going to make USF pay for those mistakes.

by The Bull-Gator on Oct 17, 2007 1:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Frustrations, Frustrations Dept:

1) Polish Sausage: Is it just me, or is USC-w getting dinged too much in the polls lately? USC has been playing with one arm tied behind its back, given its ridiculous number of injuries. I think there is enough time in the season for many of the wounded to come back and put the scare back in the higher ranked Bs-BCS teams in and out of the Pac 10.

2) Viva Las Vegas: I checked the Vegas lines, and they still have USC-w as one of the favorites to do well in this Bs-BCS mess. But the football commentators, both pro and amatuer, are missing the boat big-time on this thing.

by Stacy Keibler Luvs Me on Oct 17, 2007 1:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Actually – USC just isn’t very good this year, regardless of injuries, that’s why they’re getting dinged.

by Gentleman Masher on Oct 17, 2007 2:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Anything that can accidentally turn into SOAP if you don’t cook it right will never be on the menu here. I’ll leave that shit to Tyler Durden.

by Brian O'Blivion on Oct 17, 2007 2:04 PM EDT reply actions  

20, Why all the uproar about one undefeated team being ranked over another in the middle of the season? In a few weeks OSU’s strength of schedule ranking will be better than USF’s. OSU will play the 23rd hardest schedule by years end. USF will play the 34th. Are pollster supposed to flip the #1 and #2 teams each week based on which team currently has the better strength of schedule?

I think most pollsters pick the team that they think would win in a head to head contest. Instead of obsessing over SOS every week.

by Poop on Oct 17, 2007 2:08 PM EDT reply actions  

#24, GM: USC is not as good as previous years because of injuries, but the season is just half over, and there is time to play well against teams with pulses.

by Stacy Keibler Luvs Me on Oct 17, 2007 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Work has kept me out of the comments as of late, but I must say that I am quite puzzled about WVU at 20. 20? Really??? And here I thought that a bye week could only help our ranking….

by CouchBurnin'Girl on Oct 17, 2007 2:29 PM EDT reply actions  

To Orson: I love me some Prufrock. Fantastic, sir.

And #23, Stacy Keibler — USCw just hasn’t looked all that dominating in any game all season except for Nebraska, and even that one looks worse and worse every week as the defense in Lincoln continues to wave the white flag. Heck, they didn’t even necessarily look overwhelming against Idaho.

The talent on the field is superb, of course — even with the injuries they are replacing VHTs with VHTs — but the talent drain on the coaching staff is starting to take its toll. The fact that they can’t put together an elite running game even though they’ve go 7-8 Parade AAs deep at tailback is puzzling, to say nothing of their flock of supposedly elite WRs not playing to form, as of yet. I’d still gladly take my chances with that roster, of course, but something is just a bit off in Troy.

by Beatuofa on Oct 17, 2007 2:32 PM EDT reply actions  

How on Earth is OSU’s schedule difficult by any meassure? If Michigan slips, then none of their 12 opponents are in the top 25. Am I the only one who sees this?

by TIGERinATL on Oct 17, 2007 2:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Beatuofa: All teams this year have had points where they have looked bad or average, even against the minnows. USC-w has a history of making adjustments at the right time and turning things around………for the most part!

by Stacy Keibler Luvs Me on Oct 17, 2007 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

does ohio state not play illinois?

but i like the love for my sooners, but at this point i would rank usf ahead, bostoin college is a little bit suspect as their expected blow out of notre dame (god it feels good saying that even if it didn’t happen).

but for the person who spoke of ou’s loss to colorado. no one ever mentions the altitude. i mean they didn’t even give them a full 48 hours to get aclimated, the flight landed thursday night in denver.

the sooners only real question mark is playing in lubbock. have the cowboys at home and a&m so it will be pretty easy. but i really hope if ou makes it to the big 12 title game that kansas is the opponent.

by hbick on Oct 17, 2007 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

The fact that they can’t put together an elite running game even though they’ve go 7-8 Parade AAs deep at tailback is puzzling, to say nothing of their flock of supposedly elite WRs not playing to form, as of yet.

Two words: offensive line

by MiseanAuFan on Oct 17, 2007 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Based on the HDI measurements, here is how I would run my new Country of Brian in order to overtake snide ass Norway.

1. Life Expectancy: Immigration policies banning poor, tired, and weak. My country will be small, so it will require you to walk everywhere and not use automobiles, which can cut down that stat. And instead of a laptop for every child, a treadmill! Also I will ban all fried foods, and my people will subsist on a combination Mediterranean/Asian fusion cuisine.

2. Literacy: Every child will be taught to read while walking on treadmills. and doing pushups. The slower you read, the faster the treadmill goes. The supposition here is that smart people can adapt, and dumb people should at least be strong. Those with reading problems will be be beaten until they learn.

3. School Enrollment: Humvees with armed troops will round up any ne’er do wells who try to cut class, but first chase them around a little, because the extra exercise cant hurt.

4. Instead of recess, which will be unnecessary due to the treadmills, children will be put to work making wallets for export, assembling tiny objects, and so forth. That aughta boost the ole’ GDP.

by Brian on Oct 17, 2007 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

  1. If by " the Tigers self-destructed" you mean “OU manned-up in the 4th quarter and ran the ball down Mizzou’s throat”, then OK. And if you want to take away the Sooners’ points off turnovers, then the Tigers lose the points off ours.

by Bud Barry & Bob on Oct 17, 2007 4:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Or puking their puppet guts up in an alley in a drunken wallow of self-pity (see: USC.)

No no no, you’ve got that all wrong. Plainly you didn’t go to school in Los Angeles, because you would know that USC is actually spending up to 20 hours a day in the gym, pausing only to purge the lunchtime (only) meal of frozen yogurt in the handicapped stall, because the WWL doesn’ t think they’re pretty any more and have started paying attention to that fat bitch from north of Texas.

by DC Trojan on Oct 17, 2007 4:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Orson, do you honestly believe USC would beat Florida on a neutral field?

by John on Oct 17, 2007 4:45 PM EDT reply actions  

It is strange seeing USC as the 4th rated team in the Pac 10, but at this point I’d put them in that position as well.

The run of injuries is truely staggering. 4 of the 5 guys who started the first game on the OL have gone down with injuries. No wonder the unit isn’t opening up big holes like it did against Nebraska. But with games against the 3 conference teams leading them in the polls still ahead, USC will get a good chance to prove themselves by the end of the season.

by oc phil on Oct 17, 2007 5:39 PM EDT reply actions  

IF Kansas were to win out the rest of their schedule (which would probably include Oklahoma in the Big 12 championship and Missouri) they would deserve to be in the Mythical National Championship more than Ohio State does. KU has already beaten more Top 25 teams (Kansas St) than OSU will play all year.

The Lil’ 11 is garbage, I’m stuck in the middle of it so I get to witness the heroicly slow defenses and uncreative offenses every week. Notre Dame should get honorary membership this year as they’re play is truly Lil’ 11-tastic

BTW the two best teams in the country are LSU and Oklahoma

by kansashomer on Oct 17, 2007 5:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Orson, you write —> “USC fans wallowing in self pity.”

USC fans are not YET wallowing in self-pity, but more like simmering in a mixture of anger and “what you’d expect from a team whacked by injuries”-type of thinking.

Right now, in Los Angeles, the sportsfans wallowing in self-pity are Laker fans gnashing their teeth over Kobe Bryant having a hissy fit and staying home playing with his dolls instead of practising with the team.

How low has ND sunk, when the USC-ND game is getting upstaged in Los Angeles by a spoiled multi-millionare not named Paris Hilton in the freaken NBA pre-season??????

by Stacy Keibler Luvs Me on Oct 17, 2007 6:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Does it make me gay if I state that a T.S Eliot Quote makes me love you more?

by Brawndo on Oct 17, 2007 7:56 PM EDT reply actions  

#35… Look at the box scores and archived articles about the Mizzou vs Illinois game and tread lightly. Do you really want to go there?

by Brawndo on Oct 17, 2007 8:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Point #1: Those who think USC is ranked too low, are living in last month. (We’re looking at YOU, Herbstreit.) They have beaten the Apples (0-7 combined in the Pac-10), Arizona by 7 at home, and Idaho. Their best win is against a team that just lost to Mizzou and I’MAMAN I’M40! by 30 points each. And they lost to Stankford. That resume looks similar to the one put forth by Hot Karl Dorrell. I wouldn’t even have USC ranked.

Point #2: (I’m just throwing this out there) How is USF different from ‘99 Va Tech? Didn’t Beamer’s bunch kinda come out of nowhere too?

by Raider Red on Oct 17, 2007 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Red Raidah: Listen genius (using term loooosly), The Coaches and Harris polls, two-thirds of BCS have USC ranked num. 10, I think. You not even ranking them is an act of idiocy!

by The Real Man of Genius on Oct 17, 2007 10:37 PM EDT reply actions  

39, As of today Kansas will play the 68th most difficult schedule, OSU will play the 23rd. How will Kansas deserve it more if both teams win out?

by Poop on Oct 18, 2007 10:00 AM EDT reply actions  

45, because IF KU wins out and plays Oklahoma in Big 12 title game, then OU > anyone on OSU schedule.

And as of today it is exactly HALFWAY thru the season the SOS of both teams will be much closer by Nov. 26 (after KU plays Mizzou) and possibly in KU’s favor IF KU was to play and beat Oklahoma

by kansashomer on Oct 18, 2007 11:03 AM EDT reply actions  

-Oklahoma lost to Colorado.

If Oklahoma plays Kansas in the Big12 title game and lose than they must be really bad.

-Kansas will lose soon.

-OSU would beat Kansas by 30 points.

by Poop on Oct 19, 2007 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

eric y and jay whitlow want to know what ever happened to Boise State because jay whitlow was reporting earlier in the season that good ole BSU was going to beat the hell out of Ohio State and I tried to explain to whitlow that the two would never meet but I guess some people are not capable of getting out of their dirty elements or digs, as is the case with whitlow, and trying to take an interest in something other than the destruction of the ancient mayan civilization.
eric y and jay whitlow

by eric y on Oct 27, 2007 11:12 AM EDT reply actions  

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