WEEK SIX: THE ORDER OF BUSINESS

Sporting News, eh?

I was holding out for Page2 just for the ESPN Conversation that could be held afterwards

Is that your first column at the Sporting News? Your write-up describes you as a frequent contributor

Is that pig wearing a cape? What kind of pig wears a cape?

Beware the corndog smell, and don’t dare hold your nose.

http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2006/09/11/yes-its-true-lsu-fans-smell-like-corn-dogs

Orson, where are you going to be tailgating? We’d like to hook up and meet the Originator of EDSBS and general Foobaw Gawd that you are.

If Verne doesn’t say bacon pants, the terrorists win.

You whore, you.

By the way, I love whores. So no disrespect intended.

Yay whores!

Got a notice today from Amazon – the Psycho Fan book’s delivery has been delayed.

DELIVER DELIVER DELIVER!!!

Orsonspencer, your head is big. Not nick-saban-on-blow-chuffed-with-hisself- way. Just really big.

No comments on Click Clack stealing Woodson’s heismens dreams?

Verne Lundquist of CBS!!! How pray tell did you pull this off?

“Spencer Hall, under the alias Orson Swindle, writes and edits the college football blog Every Day Should Be Saturday and is a frequent contributor to Sporting News.”

Really? Do they mean “will be a frequent contributor” or have you been holding out on us?

Verne and the Sporting News in one week – impressive lawya.

Odds on Les Miles accidentally shooting himself if he was Tony Montana. I’m calling that bet off because I’m pretty sure he would’ve drown as soon as he left mainland Cuba.

But while the opportunity presents itself, someone should probably work on a photoshop involving werewolf/chainsaw dick LSU and the famous ‘chainsaw’ scene from scarface….GET TO IT!

#4, you mean there’s something wrong with smelling like corndogs?

Bring back the victory orson. I went mobile this weekend to the red river shootout. I will give you a full report upon return.

So I read the thing about the sandwiches, check out the picture, and it clicks –
Has anyone ever seen Orson and Alton Brown in the same room at the same time?

Type in Orson Spencer Hall in google images and check out the first dude that comes up.

Corndogs! State Fair! Texas getting raped by OU!

Must be Georgia – Tennessee weekend.

You … you said the name.

So Saban’s taking the credit and Weiss is using it to deflect the blame. What do the two of them have in common beside little to no class? They might be the two most hated coaches in the country at the college level. One drops F-Bombs and the other is reading your sideline signals if you don’t hide them.

BOTH ARE SEVERLY OVERPAID!!!!

And we all know what happens to overpaid coaches – they don’t last long.

Damn you, Orson, for getting all professional on us, and probably making money and stuff. Bastard.

Orson! You’re one of us, dude! What’s the good word?

Homer Simpson stole the Springfield A&M Pig “Sir Oinkcelot” in the simpsons. I dont think he had a cape, but he did have a sweet outfit.

Actually, unbeknownst to many, Orson actually farms out his other blog/writing work to Students from India Institute of Technology for 7$/hr. Most have PhDs!

Off topic;

Tell me someone got a video grab from the UK/USC game last night where the producer’s booth got the mic’s mixed up and broadcast someone saying something along the lines of “oh yes, work it baby, that’s the shot I like.” while the camera was on a UK cheerleader.

I just caught part of it, but I’m pretty confident about what I heard, especially because it was followed by somewhat stunned silence from the commentators.

This is youtube gold if someone can find/get it.

Towny Joiner’s charges dropped. I feel dirty.

I’m sorry, I didn’t absorb anything after reading about Ladies… and the promise of boobs.

I don’t think they’re the same person, but just imagine how much fun Orson would have with Alton’s amateur actors and his prop department. Giant foam cutaways of Phil’s custardy innards, baking-soda-and-vinegar volcanos with mini golf-carts careening into them, “W” pretending to work at Dick’s Sporting Goods instead of B,B, and B….

Big time for you Orson, big time indeed. Gratz on the double coup. Well done.

Orson,

I didn’t know you went to Florida and Georgia Tech.

I should hate you a lot.

It might be illegal for a UGA grad to read this site, but I never did respect the law.

Batman, what happened to your mask????

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Can you tell Verne Lundquist I love him?

I have long dreamed of getting cocked off of 100 COCKTAILS with Verne & his drinking buddy/basketball partner Bill Raferty. The two coolest old guys.

Dear Kentucky Wildcats,

Thank you for your time and interest in this 2007 football season. We hope you found this sport exciting and will return again next year.

Please note that your sports season will revert, as usual, to beginning on October 15th and extending until early April at the latest.

(Sorry – I’ve been waiting all morning to gloat.)

I was reading Bruce Feldman’s “Meat Market,” his tale of recruiting with the Orgeron.

Feldman quoted this Spencer Hall guy, “proprietor of a football blog, ‘Every Day Should be Saturday.’”

I thought, “Gee, why didn’t Orson use his fake name.”

Wait. Maybe he did. I’m confused.

Lazer, I heard that, too. It was a drop cup moment.

1. - Carl Spackler would be so Fing proud: “You beast, you savage, bark like a dog for me, bark like a dog!!”

This is worse than when Kiss Unmasked.

1. - Lazer/Gurn – I also caught it and didn’t quite believe what I hard, nor could I really comment on it like it deserved since my wife walked out with our twins in PJs to say goodnight right at that time.

You’d better get some more ads up before Verne comes on Sunday night!

And what good is a blog on the Sporting News when you can’t say “chainsaw dick” or “motherfucker”?

OBC discovered the expelliarmus spell. Kentucky=fraud.

I still can’t look directly at the TV when Verne is talking to the camera.

tOSUFuckeye,

You don’t have to be this miserable. Your obsessive compulsive Weiss/Saban condition can be treated. There is therapy. There are new medications. You can get better if you want help.

On second thought, I think your obsessed turd persona provides a lot more comedic value. So forget I said anything.

Orson not only gets the title “expert”, but five ( 5 people!!!) stars under his name. Damn, thats serious love from TSN.
I am not suprised you did your grad work at “the MIT of the south”. The irreverent and/or wry humor seems to be the norm for all (caucasian) GT products I have met. Let me know what size shirt you wear. When I finally get down to see a real footbaw game in SEC country I will bring you a “MIT- the Georgia Tech of the north’” shirt.

Orson’s shirt size is Pimp.

were you riding “the scrambler” or some other poorly designed carnival ride in that picture?? you look so intense, yet frazzled at the same time.

‘Florida at LSU: The Reuben with gold flakes on top and a bag of chips’… The bag of chips should be replaced with a pickle, the pickle representing Auburn of course.

Please ask Verne what brown liquor he drinks during telecasts. My buddies and I have an argument going on, I say he’s on the Rare Breed.

You people are missing the point in all this jilted-lover-melacholy over the fact that the Wizard of Orson is in reality an epic nerd with an encephalitic head. THERE WILL BE NO CHEESECAKE TODAY! Priorities, folks, focus!

this is the opposite of an LOLfootbawz:

Any bit with sandwiches should have included KU-KSU…after all Mangino loves sandwiches, right?

You should also refer to Les Miles at “Mr. Hat”, a la South Park.

Do we know that his graduate work was at Tech?

I think it was the other way around.

Do we know that his graduate work was at Tech?

I think it was the other way around.

The WWL totally stole stealing the pig from the Simpsons:

Nixon: Oh, you’ll pay. Don’t think you won’t pay!

And you actually typed out “Ron Zook,” you fuckin’ sell-out!

I was shocked that he actually typed [name redacted], they must be backing up to his house with a Brinks truck.

1. Holly — SOMEBODY’S gotta ask Verne on Sunday if he has, in fact, seen your goodies and gotten a twinkle. Or maybe that should be “twinkle,” I’m not sure.

In preparation for their rape at the hands of the Sweatervest, I provide the day’s dose of cheesecake. Behold Boilermaker glory:

http://purduesports.cstv.com/drewbrees/pur-drewbrees-lifeguards.html

I think the web ad I just saw on this page featuring Jill, who lost 55 pounds in 4 and a half months, is acceptable cheesecake for a testosterone-fueled football audience.

1. - — acutally in the DC area you get a small Washington Capitals video of one hottie giving another hottie a tattoo of the new team logo – a bald eagle looking thing with its wings spread shaped like a “W” so fuck that fat slob.

Hemlock, you have poisoned my soul with your tricksy linking.

Spider Pig, Spider Pig. Doing things that a Spider Pig does. Can he swing from a web? No, he can’t because he’s a pig.

I second Biggus’ #56 post. This wasn’t the school in Indiana I expected this shit at.

Fuck Fuck you #53! Fuck you!

Here’s one for everyone. Lou Holtz lovers, Nebraska fans, the Buckeye faithful. Truly a crowd pleaser. But what does it say when the likes of Chris Spielman has the wherewithal to mock with such impunity. Discuss.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMPImwEHZqc

To answer a couple of questions while Orson is driving to Baton Rouge—

Q. "Spencer Hall, under the alias Orson Swindle, writes and edits the college football blog Every Day Should Be Saturday and is a frequent contributor to Sporting News."

Really? Do they mean "will be a frequent contributor" or have you been holding out on us?

A: It’s going to be a regular gig, I think.

Q: So I read the thing about the sandwiches, check out the picture, and it clicks – Has anyone ever seen Orson and Alton Brown in the same room at the same time?

A: Yes! I have, along with everyone else who was at Dad’s Garage the night Alton Brown was on their late-night live talk show. Orson went up to the stage afterwards and chatted with Alton. I met his wife, who is also one of his producers. She was nice.

Q: How did Orson get Verne on the show?

A: After Verne mentioned him during the UF/UT game, Orson sent him an email, he responded, viola!

Q: UF and GTech— where did Orson do his undergrad?

A: UF.

Q: T-shirt size?

A: L.

Q: were you riding "the scrambler" or some other poorly designed carnival ride in that picture?? you look so intense, yet frazzled at the same time.

A: That, in a nutshell, is my baby. :)

@ 53

Oh, God. I feel sick, and that’s not just because of the hangover.

1. Gurn, You can find out the answers to your questions on the right side of the page with the orson swindle FAQ, or follow this convenient link

http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/?page_id=3906

Well, there goes taking the Purdue-OSU game seriously. That’s a mental image I sadly won’t be able to shake. Kinda like that OL slip-n-slide thing from a while back that’s burned into my brain.

I knew that Orson Swindle was a pen name. I’m just disappointed that Orson’s real name isn’t more interesting like D’Cody Fagg or Urban Meyer.

What’s with the surprisement? Orson’s ginormous bucket is visible to anyone who’s ever streamed the show online.

Frazzled, indeed.

“Beware the corndog smell, and don’t dare hold your nose.”

Welcome to 2004.

Will Spencer be acquiring a new black friend named “Hawk” anytime soon?

Cause that would be awesome.

Congrats on the regular gig!

Does this mean Santa is real too?

#65—Or Snoop Minnis.

TCOAN-

Since Orson is not available I hope you can answer.
With the increased media attention of EDSBS I was wondering just how popular this site is. I know of all those who post and can gauge some information on the health of the site from this, but how many hits are posters vs. people who just read?

Cosmo Periwinkle.

Uhhhh.

No bunda?

Don’t go Rome on us O.

Check out “A South Florida Bull’s letter to Coach Saban” at Gump4Heisman.com. Be sure to take a leak first.

RTR

congrats on sporting news and CBS/Verne…but don’t go all bigtime on us and forget the humble, beautiful blog….

Well, as long as he doesn’t have a stroke and die and begin holding lame insult shows and claiming that dissenting opinions or “takes” “suck”, he’s not going to change.

Besides, he’s stayed true to his own self the whole time. I’m sure he’d get the Broad Axe to the face from TCOAN if he did venture into being a sell out.

He’s not selling out, he’s cashing in. Live the dream, brother, live the dream!

I am a regular visitor to this site EVEN THOUGH it has a U of Faffiliation.

Now I find Orson isn’t really Orson, AND there’s a Ga. Tech connection.

Too. Much. Too. Process.

On that Bunda, where the F is Stranko? Strankoooooooooo! Where areeee yuoooooo!?

3 things:

1) Ha Ha (/nelson) You said Ron Zook.
2) With the addition of Orson, TSN now officially has more cfb knowledge on its staff that in its entire history combined…ever!
3) We’ve met before, but I didn’t recall you looking like Micheal Stipe if he had gone to grad school instead of becoming some weirdo, vegetarian Athens street urchin who met Pete Buck and the rest is history.

whoa… i’ve seen the face of death but that’s really scary… and that present i sent you will be perfect to wear during your trip to baton rouge, i frickin’ promise.

WHERE IS IT?!?! GIMME MA CHEESECAKE

¿Donde la bunda?

The problem with Notre Dame is Weis is spending too much time on Myspace and not enough coaching – http://www.joesportsfan.com/mediaspace/?id=14

i wish you would have said something sooner. i had 2 of our “family tickets” on the 30 up til today that weren’t being used, and i would have been glad to donate them. the least i can do to pay you for the hours of entertainment you have provided me.

i hope you enjoy your trip . ..at least til kickoff. tiger stadium is amazing on a saturday night . ..

geaux tigers . ..

Orson,
Aslt time I talked to my brother he had 4 in the Uf section he was trying to unload. He is on I-10 heading to Baton Rouge as we speak. shoot me an email and I’ll get you his cell.

F

Re #71:

At the bottom of the pink column to the right is a site meter. It should have all that you need. Hits are up to over 6.4 million for the life of the site.

Still twiddling my thumbs waiting for bunda………

The plot of the horrendous “House of Wax” was a group of 20-somethings on their way to “the biggest game of the year” implied but never stated as being between LSU and Florida. So just stay out of any shady wax museums, Orson.

Fri-day Cheese-cake! clap, clap, clapclapclap

#41

So Saban is being paid twice the salary of Carroll and has 1/2 of the accomplishments. Amazing. Carroll has lost 6 games in 5 years by a combined total of 22 points. Saban had 12 double digit blowout losses while at LSU. Carroll beat conference champions to win his NC’s and Saban’s team played a conference runner up to win his 1/2 of the NC in 2003.

Saban gets tons of credit for the 2 SEC titles, but no one remembers that the 2001 SEC title was won with 3 conference losses. To put that in perspective, no team in any conference, ever, won a conference title with 3 losses. Tennessee has 13 SEC titles, they have never won an SEC title with 2 losses, much less 3.

You’ll consider that a credit to Saban because you’re a Bama man; the rest of us will call a spade a spade and say that the SEC was way down in 2001 and it was a total fluke that LSU got to the SEC title game to begin with, and the odds of Tennessee beating LSU (or any SEC team) twice are slim.

So what does that leave for Saban? His success at MSU – I believe Mark Dantonio had as much to do with that as Saban did (Dantonion was the DC on tOSU 2002 NC Defense). His success at Miami? I didn’t see anything other than bad personnel decisions.

I guess that leaves LSU’s current success as Saban’s biggest accomplishment – care to ask Miles how he feels about that? Who was Saban’s coordinators while he was at LSU? Fisher and Muschamp…Fisher just out coached him and Muschamp’s defenses at Auburn have been the only to hold Florida down.

Get it through your thick skull…Saban is overrated, overpaid, and was hired because it was believed that the buzz of his “NAME” would be enough to sway all of the blue chip talent to Bama. Remember, he was supposed to pick right back up in LA and pull all those LSU recruits to Bama – same thing in Florida.

This is just my opinion of the guy. Sorry if you don’t like it.

on the one hand we have shula. on the other, saban. boy, tough call that.

tOSUBuckeyes:

If your opinion turns out to be wrong, will you be Saban’s bitch for a week?

FYI, If you want your opinions to carry more weight I suggest you guys beat an SEC team in football instead of witty blogging.

Enough said. I want cheesecake!!!!

On one hand you have a program that was respectfully rebuilding under a young coach who absolutely loved the university and deserved at least as many years off probation as he coached under a probation he had nothing to do with; on the other you have a hired gun with no ties to the university, no buy out clause, an image as a self-centered, arrogant ass, and who really doesn’t fit at Alabama.

It’s a no-brainer really.

I just wonder where Shula would be if Prothro and Grant played last year?

What the fuck does a college football team winning a bowl game againt another conference have to do with someone’s opinion of Saban?

It is called BIAS Sherlock. Great tool for discrediting opinions.

tOSU – I hated the way things ended up for Coach Shula. What type of expectations can you have for a guy with zero head coaching experience. I saw him throw the game winning pass in the closing seconds in Athens in 1985, lead the drive that culminated in “The Kick” in 1985, and become the only QB in Bama history to beat Notre Dame in 1986. I hated all the bad luck and things beyond his control. But, we never won a game with Coach Shula when we were trailing in the 4th quarter. It all could not have been bad luck.

For the record, I wanted him to stay. I was pleased with the Saban hire. Let’s see what he can do. He has to prove it just like all the previous coaches.

Orson,
Put the mask back on. The light refracting off of your glasses are burning my eyes out. Were you bunging jumping and having someone at ground level take a pic at the apex of the trajectory? Is your helmet size 8 5/8ths? You get the Bloggin Noggin of the Year
award. I guess your brain and skull size =equals witty writings….quit…now your trying to control my thoughts with your telepathy skills with your giant brain…….ahhhhhhhhhhh…………

OK tOSU, now I’ve got it… you’re the midget in Kenny Iron’s suitcase, right?!?

So, by that logic, if OSU were to beat a SEC team in a bowl game, that would some how add legitimacy to his opinion of Saban? WTF? Or is my pointing out a non-sequitur further proof of bias?

See, this is what happens when we are forced to go Bunda-less into that goodnight.

Can’t we all just agree that Saban is an asshole and move on until the third year of his reign, after which he’ll jump ship?

“Carroll beat conference champions to win his NC’s and Saban’s team played a conference runner up to win his 1/2 of the NC in 2003.”

That runner up was still a better team than Michigan.

#101
I’m not convinced he’ll be there that long. He’s already called the fan base out for being classless, and if you’ve read between the lines at almost every press conference he has made some sort of reference to doing things right and everyone knowing what their jobs are….he’s talking about you Bama fan…he’s talking about helping him with his image and the universities image….because without it, he’s not going to land back to back #1 recruiting classes like he did at LSU…and without that we all know that he will not succeed. And please stop calling his assistants at 2 in the morning…Saban doesn’t have time for that shit.

Steve Spurrier could out coach Saban with a high school team…Hell Ron Zook and Watson Brown out coached Saban.

And one other reason Saban won’t stay at Bama…Jimmy Sexton is his agent….let’s see…

Jimmy Sexton + Nick Saban + Insane Fans + the State of Alabama which neither has any ties to + soon to be openings of major jobs = Nick Saban gone in under 3 years.

#102

That runner up lost to K-State 35-7. K-State then went on to lose to Ohio State in the Fiesta Bowl. Michigan beat Ohio State in 2003. So one could argue:

USC > Michigan > Ohio State > K-State > Oklahoma

LSU > Oklahoma < K-State

Based solely on W/L record in head to head games all played in the final week of the season and in bowl games.

And for the record, USC would have killed LSU that year. Why, because Pete Carroll is smart enough not to practice in the superdome for 2 weeks in front of Nick Saban’s media, water boys, and probably hidden cameras…don’t worry…Stoops won’t do it again either.

In fact no one is doing it and everyone has started hiding signals from Nick….what’s up with that?

Face it Nick didn’t get his NC the hard way. He didn’t beat a conference champion.

1. Yeah, I see it too.. a (slightly) less gay, carnivorous Michael Stipe.

Everybody Hurts.

tosu, please go away, we all know your opinion, and I don’t see how it is relevant enough to post in every thread on this blog.

Looks like I might not be the only one who didn’t think that LSU’s 2003 1/2 BCS title was all that impressive.

Here’s a nice list of the top 100 teams of all time, looks like a pretty objective list.

http://homepages.cae.wisc.edu/~dwilson/rsfc/rate/berryman2.pdf

Saban’s 2003 team did not make the list but 2 other LSU teams did.

Also, 5 of Pete Carroll’s teams made the list and NONE of Saban’s made the list…yet Saban makes twice as much….lol. What a joke.

Oh, you’re not the only one. LSU’s margin of victory was 1/4 of K-State’s margin of victory.

If I’m not up by the time the noon game starts, somebody text me. hic

Holly,

Let’s try to be a little professional here. Set a God damned clock and make it happen. Sleeping is for closers. You think I’m fucking with you? I am not fucking with you. I’m here from downtown. I’m here from Orson and TCOAN. And I’m here on a mission of mercy. It’s fuck or walk. Have you made your decision for Christ? We’re sitting out here waiting to give you our attention. Are you willing to take it? Ah, fuck it, I’m too lazy to finish this. Do what feels right. You should probably use some brass balls though. That’s what it takes to blog.

well, I’ll surely be here often over the next few months, but Christ Almighty, Steve kragthorpe is a shit-tacular coach and has quickly destroyed all momentum garnered by the Louisville football program. that is all. go back to talking about Holly’s rack.

that is all. go back to talking about Holly’s rack.

You say that like we ever stopped. This wounds me.

Seriously,9 AM is WAY too early to be up on a Saturday, but I’ll try to be up by the first kickoffs. Stupid left coast.

“That runner up lost to K-State 35-7. K-State then went on to lose to Ohio State in the Fiesta Bowl. Michigan beat Ohio State in 2003. So one could argue:”

Eh? You referred to Saban not playing a conference Champion to win his NC. The year LSU beat OU, USC beat Michigan. Yes, that’s the same year they lost to KSU and yes, they were still a far superior team to Michigan which wasn’t even in the NC discussion. Sorry, I thought you were keeping up.

“And for the record, USC would have killed LSU that year. Why, because Pete Carroll is smart enough not to practice in the superdome for 2 weeks in front of Nick Saban’s media, water boys, and probably hidden cameras…don’t worry…Stoops won’t do it again either.”

In much the same fashion that OSU was going to kill Florida I imagine. Defense does tend to win championships though and well, USC’s just wasn’t that great. They were ranked 30th. LSU’s was 1st in both points and yards allowed. USC would have been smothered. After all, they lost to a Cal.

“"That runner up lost to K-State 35-7. K-State then went on to lose to Ohio State in the Fiesta Bowl. Michigan beat Ohio State in 2003. So one could argue:"

And OU defeated UCLA who defeated Cal who defeated USC. Easy to play that game but dumb to really try. Michigan wasn’t in the conversation. The whole point of BCS has been to try to match two teams who are WORTHY of championship consideration to settle things on the field. The Rose Bowl didn’t cut it, sorry. No, being a big Ten Champion doesn’t quite make up for having an extra loss. I think we’ve seen how overrated Big Ten champions are in recent years, haven’t we??

105 I was just looking at that list….

36 Florida 2006
37 Auburn 2004

I wouldn’t take the 2006 FLorida team in a matchup of those two unless I got at least 14 points.

War Eagle!

Auburn has now won 3 of the last 4 versus the mighty gators.

PA_TIger

“USC > Michigan > Ohio State > K-State > Oklahoma”

LSU > OU > UCLA > Cal > USC > Michigan.

How fucking stupid do you have to be to go down that road. You know how easy it is to construct these Kevin Bacon scenarios? Deduct 20 points from your IQ NOW.

“I wouldn’t take the 2006 FLorida team in a matchup of those two unless I got at least 14 points.”

I’m not sure I would either. Florida was on fire in that game so maybe but Auburn was way more consistent (obviously). At their best, I think AU would have won.

“Face it Nick didn’t get his NC the hard way. He didn’t beat a conference champion.”

shrug who cares? Know how many conference champions Barry Switzer defeated to win his MNCs? Well, put it this way, he played Big Ten teams in the Orange Bowl. He won another AP without playing a bowl game at all. Ain’t no big thang.

…..and from Spencer Hall—who writes the blog Every Day Should Be Saturday……

Spencer?? Spencer????….Stick with Orson.

eric and jay and whitlow want to know why so much heat on GT when we all know that if you want sammie and whitlow and jay to see some good football we should all go to a chornhusker game because where can you find whitlow and jay and sammie these days except buying tickets, waiting to get in, or at a cornhusker game and there is nothing quite as exciting as a cornhusker game especially when eric whitlow sammie and jay are there.

TCOAN- So Orson is now a media mogul based in Atlanta. Please do everything you can to stop him from marrying Jane Fonda. I was ok with her and Ted Turner, but I couldn’t deal with it if she got Orson too. Oh, and she already has Colbert under her spell.

Holly- no nipple means nobody saw your rack.

Please forgive…but what does TCOAN stand for??

We’re comin’ and we’re shittay!!!

Woo hoo, Coroso is a penis, etc. etc.

#115

Couple of things you might not remember about 2003.

1. UCLA lost to OU in the 3rd week of the season.

2. USC lost to Cal by 3 in double overtime in the 6th week of the season.

3. Cal lost to UCLA in the 7th week of the season.

“USC > Michigan > Ohio State > K-State > Oklahoma”

All happened in the last week of the season and in the bowl game.

Someone mentioned defense. USC beat Auburn at Auburn 24-0 in week 1 and LSU beat Auburn at LSU 31-7 in week 8.

LSU lost AT HOME by 12 – USC lost ON THE ROAD in double overtime by 3.

USC – LSU Common Opponents 2003

Auburn:
USC 24-0 at Auburn
LSU 31-7 at Home

Margin of victory USC 24, LSU 24

Arizona:
USC 45-0 at Arizona
LSU 59-13 at Arizona

Margin of victory USC 45, LSU 46

“All happened in the last week of the season and in the bowl game.”

An arbitrary criterion that I’ll think I’ll reject. I’ll substitute it with another one: my order included a neat place for USC themselves, rather than simply their opponent. Sorry but this is asinine analysis. A beat B beat C beat D. You can really produce all sorts of nonsense with it.

Michigan was no more a worthy MNC opponent than OU despite being a weak conference champion. That extra loss takes them out of the equation. LSU and USC both played the wrong teams.

#117

In 1998, Michigan, Ohio State, and Wisconsin tied for the Big Ten Championship. Ohio State beat Big 12 Champion Texas A&M, Wisconsin beat PAC 10 Champion UCLA, and Michigan beat 9-2 Arkansas.

In 1999, Michigan lost to 2 Big Ten teams and was not the Big Ten Champion and still beat SEC champion Alabama in the Orange Bowl. Michigan State lost to 2 Big Ten teams (Purdue 52-28; Wisconsin 40-10) and still beat SEC runner-up Florida. So 2 teams that did not win the Big Ten beat the SEC Champion and SEC runner-up.

No one seems to remember that for some reason? That little run between 1997-2002 where 2 Big Ten teams won undefeated National Championships and beat conference champions to do so; the nice year in 1998 when 3 teams split the Big Ten Title and went on to take care of business in the bowls. 1999 when we dominated the SEC champion and runner-up. Pretty nice run for a shit conference that’s always overrated.

#122

I’ll agree with that – USC and LSU should have played each other – plain and simple.

“Someone mentioned defense. USC beat Auburn at Auburn 24-0 in week 1 and LSU beat Auburn at LSU 31-7 in week 8.”

Go back and look at those games. USC Auburn was 10-0 at the half. They kept their starters in the whole time. LSU got up 31-0 mid 3rd quarter and sent in their scrubs. No, USC wasn’t the better defense. They gave up over an extra 100 yds per game. Heh.

2003 Cal – unranked
2003 FLA – 24/25

LSU defeated – AP 3, 7, 7, 13, 24; USA 3, 6, 6, 14, 25
USC defeated – AP 6, 9; USA 7,9

Ranked SEC teams: 5
Ranked PAC10 teams:2

tOSU, your opinions are sophistry and teleological. You have an answer that you seek to find support for instead of looking at the facts and coming to the correct answer.

The Sabans record in the coming years may prove out your opinion that Saban is overated (I happen to share that opinion). But the arguments you are making are dishonest, incomplete and inaccurate. Most important, they can not prove your theory that Saban is overated. Only time will tell.

Saban may be overrated , but he aint underpaid, which in my book, as long as someone is gullible enough to pay you, you should be smart enough to cash their checks. Therein lies the genius of Nickolai Augustus Sabanov. He is a Soviet spy. I know it. So precise and detailed oriented, he’s a commy bastard with a process or too loose.

Last shot since I have to change my pants after the UH game. I believe it was pre-insanity Al Davis that said, “Just win Baby!”

The Buckeyes have not beaten an SEC school during the regular season either. tOSU may just have been a glimmer in his test tube father’s eye when the Tide defeated the Buckeyes in the season opener in New Jersey 16-10 back in 1986. Oh yeah, the starting QB for Bama was Mike Shula.

While I am strolling down memory lane, who was the player for Clemson that Woody Hayes punched in the face for intercepting a pass from QB/Gambling Icon Art Schlichter? The instant replay kept playing the punch over and over and over while announcer Ara Parseghan (pardon the spelling but he whipped our ass too many times such that I have a mental block) said “I don’t know what started the fight?”