Three unbeaten top ten teams fall in a single Thermidorean day. We saw one of them get decapitated live, and it sucked with the sucking of a thousand burning suns of suck.
We’ll discuss all the sucking on EDSBS Live at 7 p.m. EST Sunday night. But first…there’s a lot of kittens in this bucket. And they all have to die.
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101
Chris says:
Ummm ….
Tennessee was whipped by PSU last year ….. SEC West “Champion” was beaten by Wisconsin. …
In neither of those games were the aforementioned SEC teams faster.
In fact, going back the last 6 years, why don’t you check the won-loss record by the almighty SEC and Big Ten. Big Ten has the winning record, dudes. Get it through your beer guzzling, redneck heads,
The Big Ten has a winning record against the SEC the past 6 years in bowl games.
September 30th, 2007 at 1:45 pm
102
BeardGuy says:
Stop it with your “facts”. Florida beating OSU clearly should count for 10 wins against the Big Ten. The SEC is better, that’s the only fact that matters.
OSU can go unbeaten, but I’m not sure they have the offense to take down LSU or USC. Wisconsin could go unbeaten, but their defense is more or less a sieve. Neither of them look like they have the firepower to beat USC or LSU.
But stranger things have happened.
September 30th, 2007 at 1:49 pm
103
Biggus Rickus says:
gerry dorsey,
Yeah, my memory was off. I already corrected myself and called me stupid.
September 30th, 2007 at 1:50 pm
104
SonofSamford says:
From what I saw of last night, Tebow should be giving birth to another bucket full of kittens in the next few months.
September 30th, 2007 at 1:54 pm
105
John In Huntsville says:
Hey, tOSUFuckeye,
Defense is not Bama’s problem.
September 30th, 2007 at 2:06 pm
106
Duke of C-U says:
Can we put our Big 10/SEC rivalry aside for a second and appreciate how great yesterday was in terms of excitement/quality of play?
I’m a bit puzzled by how far WVU fell in relation to UF. Maybe some of you Gator backers can rationalize it for me?
The way I see it, WVU lost on the road (without their QB) to a ranked team USF team that beat Auburn on the road, while UF lost at home to a team unranked and beaten by aforementioned USF or whatever we call them nowadays…
Not looking to rub salt in the wounds, just curious as to your take?
September 30th, 2007 at 2:11 pm
107
Out of Conference says:
Call me lazy, but I’m not reading 90+ posts here to see if anyone else wondered why the media feels the need to show an kid OU fan crying in the stands every year? BAWAWAWAWA that shit is funny!
September 30th, 2007 at 2:24 pm
108
R.D. Baker - Retired Blogger says:
Being a Big 12 fan, I’m not sure if it’s a bad thing that the Big 12 sucks or I should be glad that Big 12 fans are not in a pissing contest like the one in this thread
September 30th, 2007 at 2:36 pm
109
Ubiq says:
If anybody’s an authority on much the Big Ten dominates the SEC in bowl games, it’s an Ohio State fan.
September 30th, 2007 at 2:37 pm
110
robert says:
@97:
I’d say option 2
September 30th, 2007 at 2:46 pm
111
Smyth says:
#92
I’m not an SEC homer, but looking at the number of MNC’s won by conference since 1990…
SEC 5, Big Ten 2.
Though it might also be worth noting that the Big 8/12 leads all in that span with 6 titles.
Yet the Big 12 never seems to come up in this discussion of conference supremacy.
September 30th, 2007 at 2:46 pm
112
BeardGuy says:
See, that’s the SEC’s problem: people act like players from 1990 are still playing. This is college, not the NFL. You have a 4-5 year memory, and that’s all. Anything beyond that horizon is meaningless, since virtually none of the current players were around before that.
So no, MNC’s from the 90’s are not impressive.
September 30th, 2007 at 2:49 pm
113
Chris says:
Wisconsin defense is a sieve? Well, they are almost all back from last year, and they held that Arkansas offense everyone was raving about to 10 or 14 points.
And although Miami is not in the SEC, how many wins does OSU’s victory over a team that had won 250 games straight in the NC in 2002? 20 wins?
September 30th, 2007 at 2:57 pm
114
WahIggle says:
Re: Coach Meyers press conference
http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1126028622?bctid=1213869225
At the 1:19ish mark do I note the first symptoms of transitive football herpes?
Calling Dr. Swindle.
September 30th, 2007 at 3:01 pm
115
Smyth says:
Well, with a 5 year memory, since ‘02, the edge is 2-1 SEC.
September 30th, 2007 at 3:03 pm
116
formerlyanonymous says:
just to note, michigan fans are still not happy… we just dont have to drink as much to make it through the week.
September 30th, 2007 at 3:04 pm
117
BeardGuy says:
#101
Yes, a sieve. Everyone outside of WSU is putting up around 30 on them. I call that a sieve.
And I’m a Wisconsin fan, believe it or not. I just calls em like I sees em.
#102
That seems about right. I’m well aware of what the numbers say, I’m just pointing out that when discussing current superiority, quoting statistics reflecting players and coaches no longer in the game is rather silly. For example, obviously Nebraska’s MNC wins in the 90’s have little bearing on how good Nebraska is now, but that’s effectively what people are saying in this thread.
September 30th, 2007 at 3:08 pm
118
LemmeHearYaSayWarEagle says:
Biggus Rickus and vegas_buckeye,
I’ve been laughing a solid 5 minutes from the YouTube clip and response. Very good, sirs.
September 30th, 2007 at 3:19 pm
119
Doctor Strange says:
Since 2000, the Pac-10 is IIRC, 10-6 against the SEC. My only issue with most SEC fans is that they have an attitude of “If it ain’t the SEC, it sucks”. Pretty ignorant
September 30th, 2007 at 3:42 pm
120
Brandon Lang says:
#101
I sat in Camp Randall and watched my alma mater, The Citadel, score 31 points. Seive indeed.
September 30th, 2007 at 3:48 pm
121
Techie says:
At least the ACC picked up some relevant OOC wins this weekend….
September 30th, 2007 at 3:59 pm
122
Sundawg says:
So I guess bringing up Hershel and 1980 would be moot? [Sorry, I had to do that; these blog pissing contests are so trying - as in "Georgia stole Greenbay's "G"].
September 30th, 2007 at 4:06 pm
123
Sundawg says:
Hey Doc, if it isn’t SEC it DOES suck. Now slap your forehead and say DOH!
September 30th, 2007 at 4:08 pm
124
Stephen says:
It is good that nothing beyond 4-5 years matters anymore because that drought between 1968-1997 with no national titles was a killer for the Big Ten…
I personally think that Tommy Tuberville signed some pack with the devil in which he asked to become the greatest big game college football coach of all time but forgot to ask for the power to beat mediocre teams that run well.
September 30th, 2007 at 4:09 pm
125
Doctor Strange says:
Sundawg, thanks for proving my point. SEC = small minded provincialism and ignorance.
No wonder Sherman burned Atlanta to the ground.
September 30th, 2007 at 4:14 pm
126
Doctor Strange says:
# 108 – more proof that Sherman was absolutely right when he burned Atlanta to the ground.
SEC = provincial ignorance
September 30th, 2007 at 4:16 pm
127
Cameorn Siggs says:
anyone want to know how my day’s been going? this picture pretty much sums it up…
http://www.kingofheartscattery.com/images/bucket_o_kits.jpg
September 30th, 2007 at 4:59 pm
128
R.D. Baker - Retired Blogger says:
Though it might also be worth noting that the Big 8/12 leads all in that span with 6 titles.
Yet the Big 12 never seems to come up in this discussion of conference supremacy.
a) The Big 12 has only been a conference for a decade and before that it was 2 separate conferences, so it’s a little harder to trace history, except for Nebraska, Oklahoma, and Texas who had a national rep before the 2 confererences merged.
b) The Big 12 has been percieved as down the last few years because the teams are beating up on each other. The only conference where teams have license to beat up on each other is the SEC, otherwise, it just hurts the perception of your league.
That’s not slamming the SEC, they are a tough conference and some of it’s rep is justified given the pro talent that comes out of that league. I’m talking about the way college football commentators in general think.
September 30th, 2007 at 5:08 pm
129
Jeff from LA says:
I don’t really have any love or hate for the Big 12, but I think that the Big 12 really doesn’t get much love because of the 2 disastrous Oklahoma MNC appearances in the BCS in ‘03 and ‘04 and Oklahoma’s defeat at the hands of Boise State last year.
Texas did manage to represent the Big 12 well in 2005, but I think most people assume that Texas in ‘05 might have been a bit of an aberration. This aberration was caused by having a superstar player who played qb, running back, special teams and defense for them as well.
Since his departure, Texas and the Big 12 has been remarkably mediocre. This is evidenced by the fact that both Oklahoma and Texas have already lost to unranked teams less than one month into the season. And in the Texas K-State game, its not even clear that it was an upset, since the Longhorns lost by 20…………..at home.
September 30th, 2007 at 6:38 pm
130
CLTDawg says:
101 -
It doesn’t count as any wins. You guys lost that game. That was the most bullshit interference call in the history of football. You know it, I know it, the American people know it.
September 30th, 2007 at 8:04 pm
131
stapler says:
Big 10, hate to break it you, but Nebraska would have laid half a hundred on MIchigan in 97. And everyone knows the 02 pass interference call was garbage. Hell, I don’t recognize any Big-10 MNCs that come after 1970, so please, STFU about them.
September 30th, 2007 at 8:15 pm
132
PA_TIger says:
#113 you are close there but you need to go back even further. Since 1983 there have been numerous editions of Nebraska/Oklahoma who rans up huge scores against a bunch of stiffs, got declared the best team in the history of college football, and then lost their bowl game.
Didn’t FSU and Miami make a living knocking these guys off from ~1987 to 2000?
That same bullshit cost my team, Auburn, the 1983 national championship and a shot at the 2004 national championship.
It was starting agian this year with the way OU was running it up against a bunch of stiffs. Thank God for Colorado.
War Eagle!
PA_Tiger
September 30th, 2007 at 8:47 pm
133
BJ and The Bear says:
“They were the best coached team, but talent wise, LSU was the one with all the talent, just a sucky ass coach.”
Florida has more talent than Auburn yet they lost AT HOME. Does that mean Meyer is a sucky coach? LSU lost two games on the road. I love how SEC homers talk about how tough the SEC because of the huge number of hurdles it presents but then assume that having more talent AUTOMATICALLY means you win the whole thing or else your coach sucks.
This nonsense about Les Miles being a bad coach has absolutely no basis in fact. People just enjoy repeating it.
September 30th, 2007 at 8:53 pm
134
R.D. Baker - Retired Blogger says:
Jeff – yeah, the Big 12 has been very mediocre, especially the North, but these things go in cycles, and Big 12 is in a down cycle.. Some years your league is up, some years your league is down.
September 30th, 2007 at 9:06 pm
135
TPS Reports says:
JORT UPDATE:
I was in G-Vegas for the game and decided to count a few jorts during the tailgate. Rules: jorts for both men and women were counted. “Capri” style (ashamed that I am using this term) — below the knee and above the ankle — did NOT count as a true JORT. The following styles were observed:
Hemmed and Starched
Acid wash (yes really)
Hand made long, M and F
Hand made short and TIIIIght, M (uggh) and F
The pleated jort — a fan favorite
After an hour of intense observation I stopped counting at 115+. As a side note, Camo shorts were VERY popular. In fact, they made be the “Jort” of the new millenium.
Stay Klassy, Gators.
Auburn Sucks.
September 30th, 2007 at 9:11 pm
136
Chris says:
Yeah, and that offsides call against Iowa was bullshit as well (against the Godly Urban Meyer).
Yes, Florida won the big one, but overall last year, SEC was 1-2 against the Big 10.
And we’re not talking playing the “gee I”m here crowd” teams (Kentucky etc.
The SEC West champs and Tennessee.
September 30th, 2007 at 9:12 pm
137
Duke of C-U says:
#116
I hate to get involved in these Big 10/SEC debates…
Well, if you want to get theoretical, 94 PSU would have beaten Nebraska. 03 USC would have beaten LSU… and on and on and on.
Did you go back in a time machine and schedule and witness that Mich-Neb match up? Because if recent memory serves me correctly, FSU was a heavy favorite over OK and USC over TX? How did those turn out? Not to mention OSU being 11 point dogs to UM.
Point: you cannot prove Michigan would have lost to Nebraska.
http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/story/6483719
may want to check out the above link re OSU – UM national championship. Game should have never gone to OT either, OSU got screwed in regulation, but since the latter penalty was at the end of the game, its celebrated more.
September 30th, 2007 at 9:14 pm
138
bhors says:
114-
Ya, Im pretty sure that counts as a win. Everyone mentions that PI call, but no one talks about the horrid call where Chris Gamble made a diving catch and they call him OB. Should the Correct call been made, OSU would have ran the clock out. Also, watch it again and watch the huge no-call clipping/block in the back on the long punt return that the U had to set up the score. I agree, the PI was a questionable call, but if not for the lack of refereeing in the 5 minutes before that, OSU would have kneed on the ball.
Yada yada, yes, the SEC is good, the big 10 is not as good top to bottom. And that video was embarrassing. It was like the guy was reading EDSBS and was like “hmm, wonder what the Subcommandate would sound like on a rap video”.
September 30th, 2007 at 9:19 pm
139
NoleinTexas says:
Oh God, yesterday was better than the greatest sex that the sex god could ever fathom.
Oh, and for the Big 10 fans defending their rep on the national stage, here’s a stat for you:
In the last 35 years, the Big 10 has 1.5 titles.
The pre-1992 ACC (no FSU, Miami, VT or BC) has the same amount. Basically, a crappy conference’s JV has been your crystal football equal.
September 30th, 2007 at 9:30 pm
140
Brandon Cox's Vagina says:
You think my cunt is big, check out the size of the gash on this Gator.
September 30th, 2007 at 9:30 pm
141
PW says:
123
current UF students need to suffer a loss like that every now and then so they can learn to appreciate the good times.
September 30th, 2007 at 9:39 pm
142
stapler says:
Great video on #123.
I love how he goes from “you’re a fucking genius Meyer!” to “you’re fucking fired, Meyer.” I wish I could say the guy is taking the game too seriously, but thats how my friends and I act whenever our teams lose the close ones.
September 30th, 2007 at 9:42 pm
143
Doctor Strange says:
116 – Didn’t Tommy Frazier and the Huskers lay half a hundred on Spurrier’s Gators?
Worst beatdown since Coach Stalin’s Red Army squad took Berlin.
September 30th, 2007 at 9:43 pm
144
PW says:
126
haHA, it was actually half a hundred twenty-eight
September 30th, 2007 at 9:47 pm
145
NewAZTiger says:
We got the belt, biznitches.
September 30th, 2007 at 10:45 pm
146
UCLA Mob says:
129 – Florida hit the canvas just like Jermain Taylor’s punk ass, knocked out by a glass jawed palooka named Auburn
October 1st, 2007 at 12:22 am
147
nvbuckeye says:
Let’s be objective here. The Big Ten Has been a top-heavy conference forever. So when tOSU and Michigan have a down year, then yes, the conference has a down year. But the extent to which the Big Ten has been bashed based on OSU and UM’s bowl blowouts last year is entirely unwarranted. OSU handled the same Washington team that gave a legitimate scare to USC. So a couple of traditional powerhouses got handled last year. It is time to get the fuck over it.
October 1st, 2007 at 12:51 am
148
Der Schatten says:
Dear tOSU,
Would you shut your fucking pie-hole about the 2003 “not having to beat a conference champion” shit? Jeez. If it offends you so badly get your beloved OSU Fightin’ Shit Coolers to retroactively win the Lil’ Televen so that they could have been slaughtered by LSU.
Love and kisses, Jackass,
the rest of the sane world.
October 1st, 2007 at 5:38 am
149
NoleinTexas says:
I don’t have a dog in this fight (topical!) but OSU didn’t even play the co-champion of the Big 10 in 2002, so….yeah.
October 1st, 2007 at 6:39 am
150
Biggus Rickus says:
I don’t really want to get into this argument, but I will. Bowl games are crappy ways to measure relative strength of conferences. That month off affects every team differently. Some come out arrogant and are surprised when the team they’re supposed to handle can actually play a little bit (see: UF over OSU, not the victory necessarily but the margin and WVU over UGA). Other teams get pissed at hearing about how badly they’re mismatched against the supposedly superior team. Some teams come off season-killing losses to close out the season and just go through the motions. And there’s always the interim coaches for teams in middling bowls. It’s all just an unpredictable mess in bowl season. I tend to think the SEC is better than the Big 10 most years (surprise since I’m a Georgia fan), but 2002 was a year where it clearly wasn’t. Mediocre 9-3 Arkansas played UGA in the SEC title game, and nobody but Georgia in the east was better than 8-4. The year before saw Illinois win the Big 10 title. I think that says everything about how down the Big 10 was that year. 2003 was a wash in my opinion despite the SEC being home to the national champ. The Big 10 had good depth that year. Since then I’d say the SEC has been better every year, i.e. deeper.
October 1st, 2007 at 7:44 am