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MIKE GUNDY FLIPS THE HELL OUT

Mike Gundy, the coach of the Oklahoma State Cowboys and noted hair gel afficionado, got a crucial win on Saturday over the Texas Tech Red Raiders (yarr) after getting off to a disastrous 0-30-2 start--a start including a hapless defeat to Troy that bordered on organizational anarchy on the field. (Like, Louisville secondary bad.)

To celebrate, Gundy walked in with a copy of the Daily Oklahoman, pointed at a column about OSU qb Bobby Reid, and zeroed on Jenni Carlson. He then placed his hands on either side of buttocks, applied pressure, and ripped her several new assholes in a three minute tirade you may watch hyah:

In car crashes and other moments of extreme significance to survival, time becomes very plastic, slowing down to a geological crawl, like when your wife is attempting to pick out the proper desk lamp at IKEA or during any baseball game. We can only assume that the hummingbird of time slowed to a millipede's creep during the rant, since we think the focus of Gundy's overcaffeineated stare is Carlson herself, sitting in the room and taking her thrashing in person.

As for how sensible this is? We cut the man ample slack. He works for T. Boone Pickens. We're sure he gets paid by the week in barrels of oil and piles of cash with no contract. He has his primary booster leveraging life insurance policies to make death work for the benefit of the program. He coaches in a conference with Mack Brown and Bob Stoops in his division. We're surprised his head doesn't explode like Krest's in Licence to Kill with the slight pressure change from walking indoors to outdoors.

(Massive HT: Peter.)

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That might possibly be the best “Fuck You” speech I’ve ever heard. No doubt Jenni Carlson went home with tears in her eyes only to be fed chicken by her momma. FANTASTIC.

by Brian on Sep 23, 2007 12:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Press conferences would be so much more entertaining if they all went like that.

by Herb on Sep 23, 2007 12:38 PM EDT reply actions  

That’s the current winner for D-IA ranting. Wow.

The only coach rant that comes close is Denny Green’s tirade from last season, NFL division.

by Signal to Noise on Sep 23, 2007 12:50 PM EDT reply actions  

PLAYOFFS! PLAYOFFS? While I’m not a big Jenni Carlson fan, I’m not like a solid majority of OU fans/alumni that just despise her with every fiber of their being. Her writing style is/has been odd to say the least, but this specific article isn’t as bad as most. I do think she may have gone to far, mostly due to a heavy use of rumor and rumor alone. It’s not right to pick on some college kid like you could/would a pro or anyone and everyone involved with U. of texas, USC, or Jimmy Claussen. The real tragedy of this is that we in Oklahoma will, due to this tirade, forget the magic of Les Mile’s “I like this team, I’ll take this team anywhere…this is not what we wanted” psychotic ramble. That and maybe the “let’r rip” on live television. It’s not as much fun when the comments are even a little warranted. I prefer my rants to be pure psychosis, and thus I’m a big Les Miles and Coach O fan.

by them oklahoma on Sep 23, 2007 1:03 PM EDT reply actions  

“I hope you have sons. Beautiful, handsome boys. Articulate, educated, and athletic. And I hope they have their legs taken from them, so you can know what this pain is like!”

by Lloyd Christmas on Sep 23, 2007 1:06 PM EDT reply actions  

God, that article was a complete hatchet job. i realize sports reporters are generally less beholden to the standards that other, “important” journalists are, but writing an entire article that attacks a player based on nothing but rumors and conjecture is pretty low.

big ups to Gundy

by bup bup bup on Sep 23, 2007 1:08 PM EDT reply actions  

i’ve heard of women neutering their husbands through years after endless years of verbal assault… but holy osu, this is Denny Green classic, Mikey spay’d that bitch.

Jenni Carlson is what we thought she was!… if you wanna crown her, then crown her ass!

by Winky O'conklin on Sep 23, 2007 1:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Dan Hawkins suggests that Bobby Reid may want to consider playing intramurals…

by Kahuna on Sep 23, 2007 1:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Finally, someone endeavoring to cleanse the Augean Stables of media craptasticity. Now if only someone would chase the money changers from the Temple of boosterism. But wait, T-Boone might not like that . . .

by SherlockHemlock on Sep 23, 2007 1:12 PM EDT reply actions  

1 Million cocktails to Gundy – the sports media in this country is absolutely clueless and rarely held accountable. I wish more coaches would rip the media apart.

by tOSUBuckeyes on Sep 23, 2007 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I have never been so afraid of someone who wasn’t cussing.

by Holly on Sep 23, 2007 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

OSU – 1 win, 2 losses, not 0 for 3. Might want to get your facts right, you don’t want to start rumors.

Loved the Gundy thing. Win or lose, my vote for coach of the year.

by OK blog on Sep 23, 2007 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

That was awesome.

I’m 40! I’m a man! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

by CardsFan922 on Sep 23, 2007 1:36 PM EDT reply actions  

IF only Gundy’s pregame speeches were this enthralling and compassionate, then maybe, OSU wouldnt have lost to Troy.

After listening to that beautifully delectable diatribe, I’m ready to go thru a wall for Gundy.

1000x more empassioned than anything Lou Holtz has ever done.

by Grateful Gator on Sep 23, 2007 1:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t know the details about this story, but assuming the colleagues above are in the know, big ups to him for showing some manhood and sticking up for his players. I can’t stand the press and the cheap shots they are always trying to take in the name of “analysis.”

by MCab on Sep 23, 2007 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

I have no dog in this fight, but I think I’m with Carlson. It’s not the best article ever written, even from that human interest, use an anecdote as a symbol for someone’s character style. But the OSU coaches benched Reid for a reason — that’s not rumor. And (without knowing much about the OSU team), it appears that Reid was thought to be more talented than Robinson. So why the benching? It can’t solely be because they were losing this year, because they left Robinson in even after they got annihilated by Troy. He did have some kind of injury, but the coaches had said this year that players don’t lose starting spots because of injury, and Reid lost his. Carlson says there have been rumors going back years that Reid is a whiny malcontent, and pointed to video of him laughing during a big defeat, and suggested that might be a reason for the benching.

The benching of a starting quarterback is news, and unless you want the beat writers to simply throw up their hands and say, “Oh well, Coach Gundy must know what he’s doing! In Gundy We Trust!” then it has to be okay for writers to suggest reasons for the benching. If, after eliminating the other best possibilities, “attitude” seems to be the reason, I think it’s okay to print that.

And either Reid is a nearly-22-year-old multi-year starter who is mature enough to lead a Big XII team — and consequently, mature enough to accept some criticism of his toughness — or he is still a little boy who has to run home to Momma when some (girl) bully picks on him. Gundy can’t have it both ways.

by King Bee on Sep 23, 2007 2:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Great speech, only way it may backfire……..if Jenni Carlson is barren (people still use that term right?)

by WTTerminus on Sep 23, 2007 2:29 PM EDT reply actions  

#13: Maybe so, but you can’t write an article based solely on “rumors and rumblings” and try to pass it off as proven fact. It’s a newspaper, not a tabloid.

by Year2-Dave on Sep 23, 2007 2:33 PM EDT reply actions  

#13: Possibly, but there is still a lot of “rumor has it”, “the word on the street is”, and “it seems like” going on in that article. That person built an entire article out of a house of cards with very little that she could point to and say was 100% indisputably correct. It was a glorified gossip column.

by Rob on Sep 23, 2007 2:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Jenni needs to shut the fuck up and fix me turkey pot pie.

by JorgĂ© the Bass Player on Sep 23, 2007 2:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Kahuna beat me to it… Someone give that man 100 cocktails!

by R.D. Baker - Retired Blogger on Sep 23, 2007 2:44 PM EDT reply actions  

I call BS. When coaches yell on the sidelines, grab facemasks, etc, it’s not someone’s mama’s baby, it is DIVISION ONE FOOTBALL! I don’t think you can have it both ways. I remember during my first year at a DI school, my university lost a game on a single bad play by an individual, and it occurred to me as he got the Buckner treatment, that this kid was a sophomore, just like the ones I was teaching, and I felt bad for the kid. But as long as the culture of DI revenue sports encourages treating college students like professionals, it seems as if the media have an obligation to cover them as such. Also, this was a postgame press conference after the first win of the season, and Gundy’s focus is on an article that ran that morning? Not a guy I would want at the helm of my program.

by Fesser on Sep 23, 2007 2:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Props to Gundy for standing up for his organization, but if I were the AD, I’d be seriously questioning this man’s sanity. If I were any of the other writers in the room, I’d be embarassed for the coach, not my colleague.

100 cocktails to #13 – you hit the nail on the head.

For the rest of you — this isn’t news, it’s analysis. There is a difference.

by PJ from NU in SF on Sep 23, 2007 3:00 PM EDT reply actions  

No, #19, it’s not analysis, it’s conjecture. A coach should never stand for an assistant or player to be thrown under the bus if it’s not warranted. If I was one of the two that speech would have meant a lot to me. And from the applause at the end I think there were other media types in the room who agreed with Gundy.

by Herb on Sep 23, 2007 3:09 PM EDT reply actions  

  1. and #15 – If you’re expecting that kind of journalism from the MSM, you’re living in a fantasy world. Hell, there’s more rumors and innuendo than facts on the nightly news these days.
  1. - Good point. And this is why smart coaches like Bill Belichick don’t really say much at pressers.

by R.D. Baker - Retired Blogger on Sep 23, 2007 3:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Fucking Awesome….we need more people to stand up to the media and set things straight and call them out for their actions. GREAT!

by roaminggator on Sep 23, 2007 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Did I say #19? I meant #23.

by Herb on Sep 23, 2007 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

If Carlson’s true goal is to become the female Jim Rome, then Mike Gundy played right into her hands.

In fact, how do we know Gundy is not playing Jim Everett to Carlson’s Rome, relatively speaking?

Okay, the last sentence is an extreme stretch. But, the Romes, Gregg Doyel’s, etc of the world write this stuff to get attention for themselves to build reader bases.

How many of you googled The Oklahoman to read some of Carlson’s work to see what all the fuss was about? I know I did.

by Coop on Sep 23, 2007 3:20 PM EDT reply actions  

OK.. clarification.. by 14, I meant McCab, 15, I meant King Bee and 18, I meant Fesser.

by R.D. Baker - Retired Blogger on Sep 23, 2007 3:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Coop – So now Carlson’s going to launch a radio show where all her callers mimic her and invent their own language and if they don’t agree with the host (scuse me, I meant to say “their take sucks”) then you get run?

by R.D. Baker - Retired Blogger on Sep 23, 2007 3:30 PM EDT reply actions  

“HE’S RESPECTFUL TO THE PUBLIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
~Mike Gundy

by adam on Sep 23, 2007 3:30 PM EDT reply actions  

All that was missing was “Put the coffee down! Coffee’s for closers only!”

by Doctor Strange on Sep 23, 2007 3:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Kudos to Gundy. That took nads.

by Techie on Sep 23, 2007 3:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Herb, you missed my very first point altogether, and unless you were in that crowd, you’re guessing about the source of the applause. For all I know, it came from his staff and the towel boys.

Besides, any group of sportswriters larger than four is going to be split between jocksniffers, ambitious go-getters and and tired old farts who will bore you to tears telling you how Bo/Bear/[local legend] would have done it. The one person I saw in the clip who might have been wearing a press pass looked shocked at what he’s seen. (Kind of like watching Orgeron eat lunch, I imagine.)

I agree with Fesser that focusing on the win instead of a newspaper article would have been a smarter and safer choice for Grundy.

Oh, and one other point… “conjecture” means that she’s making it up, and it sounds like she’s getting her story from inside the organization, so I’ll stick with “analysis”.

by PJ from NU in SF on Sep 23, 2007 3:43 PM EDT reply actions  

> And from the applause at the end I think there were other
> media types in the room who agreed with Gundy.

Herb, so you’re upset when a columnist uses conjecture, but it’s OK for you to speculate about the source of applause? Explain yourself.

by R.D. Baker - Retired Blogger on Sep 23, 2007 4:00 PM EDT reply actions  

That was awesome! I was just wating for him to drop an “I’M A GROWN-ASS MAN!” on that vulture. Or stick the paper down the back of his pants and wipe his ass with it.; what a great tirade. That alleged article was in no way ‘news’. That was a hatchet job on Reid for whatever reason. Like the poster above, I got no horse in this race but that gossip column was uncalled for- Gundy’s right: go after the coaches and administration, not the kids (and that’s what they are).

I wonder if what’s-her-twat knows that Mcarthur’s mom moved to West Point and coddled him there for 4 years; probably not, that would involve a ‘reporter’ actually studying history and having a clue.

by bitterhorn on Sep 23, 2007 4:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Mike Gundy had time for that shit.

by TideDruid on Sep 23, 2007 4:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Ideally, early Monday, the first thing she hears when she arrives at work is not consolation from her colleagues, but rather “Take this box and clean out your desk. You have ten minutes.”

Freaking awesome Gundy.

by RyderCup on Sep 23, 2007 4:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Mixed Feelings Dept:

Saw the video a couple of times and had good laughs.

But, picking on a woman sort of seems un-manly.

by Stacy Keibler Luvs Me on Sep 23, 2007 4:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Makes me wonder if Gundy’s kid is fat and sucks at football…

by Doctor Strange on Sep 23, 2007 4:28 PM EDT reply actions  

> Mike Gundy had time for that shit.

And if he does have time for that shit… how good of a coaching job is he doing? He’s still 1-3 and his secondary still looks like it doesn’t know what it’s doing, even though they won yesterday.

by R.D. Baker - Retired Blogger on Sep 23, 2007 5:06 PM EDT reply actions  

is it me or with like 23 or so seconds left in the clip…

“i hope some day you have a child and someone beat errrrrrrrr…. downgrades them and belittles them”

looks as if he was going to say “and someone beats the shit out of him” (or to the tune of that) lol

by Winky O'conklin on Sep 23, 2007 5:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Can tell who all the journalism majors are…

by Dawg 05 on Sep 23, 2007 5:56 PM EDT reply actions  

+100 beers for Gundy (and not that OK point shit, either).

And, SKLM…yes, it seems unmanly. But, at the same time, it seems that Ms. Carlson misplayed the chivalry card, e.g., thinking that someone wouldn’t call her ass out. That was yellow journo at its finest, but it pales next to the shit Finebaum and his ilk write/spew.

Ugh, need to shower after just saying his name.

by Der Schatten on Sep 23, 2007 6:06 PM EDT reply actions  

So not having a child who has been beat down automatically disqualifies someone from being a sportswriter? This Gundy guy is a joke. His rant has the emotion of a used car salesman’s bait and switch. He doesn’t want to focus on the trainwreck that is OSU football, but rather he wants to get the masses to question something totally arbitrary and hardly tangently to the issue at hand. He’s not man enough to answer for his own program and takes it out on a woman. Wow, just wow.

I wonder if at the next news conference he’ll bring out a lap top and start reading comments off some messageboard and then talk about what crap they are and how he hopes the commentators have children who get beat up.

by stapler on Sep 23, 2007 6:07 PM EDT reply actions  

It would only have been better if Coach would have ended the press conference with my favorite Soprano’s line:
“It’s over. Over and done. You call, or go anywhere near him or his family, and they’ll be scraping your nipples off these fine leather seats.”

by Karl Chlders on Sep 23, 2007 6:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Stacy, try filing that under “raging double standards department” instead. It may help explain your mixed feelings.

If coach is being “unmanly,” what adjective do you use to describe being vicious and slanderous about a kid behind the protective membrane of your journalism creds, then crying “chivalry” when that veneer comes crashing down? I call it cowardly, bitchy, and self-serving, but I suppose opinions will vary.

by Sage on Sep 23, 2007 6:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Fix me some bacon and eggs

by Dick Hertz (Holden, Mass) on Sep 23, 2007 6:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I’ve hated Carlson ever since her “classic” column on the “Mid-Atlantic Conference” and the enigma that was her column written from the point of view of a female college athlete’s knee.

by Justin Cliburn on Sep 23, 2007 6:18 PM EDT reply actions  

First off, why are you all saying that they are 1-3? last I checked they were 2-2 , loss to georgia, win over FAU,loss to troy, win over TT, which also means they didnt start 0-2 they went 1-1, so now they are 2-2
just settling that one, also I enjoyed that press conference more than most in recent memory,
even if it is OSU.

Boomer Sooner

by Brad on Sep 23, 2007 6:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Mad props to Gundy. I really am 40, and I DO have kids, so I know just what he’s talking about. Damn I love coaches tirades, they’re so cute.

by Stockman on Sep 23, 2007 7:02 PM EDT reply actions  

“His father is the district attorney!”

by Shula's Gold Chain on Sep 23, 2007 7:17 PM EDT reply actions  

  1. Der Schatten: Three bits regarding Ms. Carlson.

1) I saw her videos and although she is young, I think she is old enough to go by “Jennifer” instead of “Jenni”. What is she, 12?

2) Her piece was not journalism. I think she is having trouble coming up with material for her opinion-type articles.

3) In a wierd way, Gundy the Coach rewarded her with more publicity than she has ever had before. And, picking a fight with the press is typically a losing battle.

by Stacy Keibler Luvs Me on Sep 23, 2007 7:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Blood’s in the water now. Gundy showed his hand. Not wise.

by TigerNacho on Sep 23, 2007 7:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Mike Gundy is to press conferences what Phil Collins is to urban myths.

by Ray on Sep 23, 2007 7:49 PM EDT reply actions  

> last I checked they were 2-2 , loss to georgia, win over
>FAU,loss to troy, win over TT, which also means they didnt
> start 0-2 they went 1-1, so now they are 2-2

FAU.. there’s a quality opponent, almost as good as Sam Houston State. Look out for Okie State, they beat FAU.

FAU.. there’s a quality opponent, almost as good as Sam Houston State. Look out for Okie State, they beat FAU.And if OSU thinks it can win games against other Big 12 competition playing the way it played on defense Saturday against Tech, they’re fooling themselves

by R.D. Baker - Retired Blogger on Sep 23, 2007 7:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Judging by her headshot, I’m guessing Ms. Carlson has no chidlren, and no prospects for any in the near or distant future.

by Doctor Strange on Sep 23, 2007 8:09 PM EDT reply actions  

“Judging by her headshot, I’m guessing Ms. Carlson has no chidlren, and no prospects for any in the near or distant future.”

And she’s made even less attractive by the fresh, steaming ten-foot-wide asshole that Gundy just ripped her…

Kudos to a coach standing up for his players, and even more for calling out yet another presshole monkey banging mindlessly away on a keyboard, flinging verbal feces.

She got what she deserved…I only wish that they had gotten a shot of her face as her new anus was being installed by Gundy.

Even so, that’s got to leave a mark.

PD’sL

by Pat Dye's Liver on Sep 23, 2007 8:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I know bunda, and Jenni Carlson is no bunda, amigos.

http://newsok.com/sports/carlson/

Therefore, she may never know what it feels like to be a mom.

by Grateful Gator on Sep 23, 2007 8:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Jesus, you pigs…

by PJ from NU in SF on Sep 23, 2007 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

For the record, Athlon Sports has officially doomed Andre Woodson by noting the following: “With 296 passes without a pick, Woodson has surpassed former Fresno State signal-caller Trent Dilfer’s record of 271.”

AAAGHCK! Who wants to be in the same sentence as Dilfer? Not to mention, the karmic ass-kicking by breaking the record ensures that he throws five picks next week.

by Der Schatten on Sep 23, 2007 9:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Methinks our boy Gumby, er Gundy, was shaken to his core that he has staff who was relaying such damning info. He realizes that he has a major cancer on his team and he needed to create a ruckus that demonstrated just how pissed he was. Jenni makes a very convenient target. His OC does not.

I would wager a house full of dinners at Dreamland that she was not making up the “rumor” that Reid was “soft.” When she attributes that stuff to those within the program, she is putting her neck on the line. If this is made up of whole cloth, she is done as a newspaper reporter.

You doth protest too much, Coach. Nice try, but like a lot of your trickeration this year, I’m not biting. Time to punt, dude.

by Ed on Sep 23, 2007 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

#61—Against Florida Atlantic? Won’t happen.

by magpie on Sep 23, 2007 10:04 PM EDT reply actions  

R.D. Baker – Retired Blogger
“Herb, so you’re upset when a columnist uses conjecture, but it’s OK for you to speculate about the source of applause? Explain yourself.”

RD: These are comments on a blog. We are not journalist writing for a freaking newspaper. Big difference, and you darn well know it.

by WB on Sep 23, 2007 10:54 PM EDT reply actions  

AAAGHCK! Who wants to be in the same sentence as Dilfer?

Do you mean Super Bowl Champion Trent Dilfer? Certainly not Trev Alberts, who ended up having quite a worse career than Dilfer after their classic draft day Kiper comparison (Who the HELL is Mel Kiper?!). .

I think you could name roughly a thousand NFL QB’s who Trent Dilfer has had a better career than. I have met Trent when he was with the Seahawks, and a nicer guy you will not find. I’d be glad to be mentioned in the same sentence as him.

by Brian O'Blivion on Sep 23, 2007 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I just watched one of her videos on the Oklahoman website. Carlson is a kid herself. How old is that girl??

by WB on Sep 23, 2007 10:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Dilfer’s got one more Super Bowl ring than Dan Marino and lots of other great QBs!

by WB on Sep 23, 2007 11:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Jenni got mad because Reid wouldn’t share his chicken with her.

I bet Gundy will never have to pick up a bar tab again for the rest of his life. Love that mad dog look…hope he keeps that face on all season.

by Invoice Jones on Sep 23, 2007 11:01 PM EDT reply actions  

#23

The article may be “analysis” — but so was the tirade. Fair is fair.

by RIP Logan Young on Sep 23, 2007 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

And 20 dollars says that beast is passed out on the couch with a half-empty carton of ice cream dripping on her tear-stained fat face.

by RIP Logan Young on Sep 23, 2007 11:11 PM EDT reply actions  

WB, yes, there’s a difference, and it’s spelled p-a-y-c-h-e-c-k.

RDB’s point was that if someone is going to complain about a sportswriter jumping to conclusions, they really shouldn’t jump to one of their own and expect that they won’t get called on it. Glass houses, and all…

A lot of people here and elsewhere seem to have a problem with Carlson as a person, and I can’t imagine why, unless they’re offended that a woman would dare to write sports. (I thought we settled that crap back in the ’80s, but I guess not.)

If one were to go back and look at her recent body of work, it would become clear that she doesn’t have an axe to grind, but is instead asking why this guy is riding the pine, after being a starter for a year or two. (Sorry to be so vague on the details, but I don’t follow Big 8, er, 12 football.) Then she offers some theories, ones that appear to have been discussed by the Daily Oklahoman’s OSU beat reporters.

by PJ from NU in SF on Sep 23, 2007 11:13 PM EDT reply actions  

boy the other writters/media sure are easy to spot…..fags

by BecomeTubbsbitch on Sep 23, 2007 11:15 PM EDT reply actions  

69

No, nobody has a problem with that disgusting, fat beast writing about sports. I believe all morbidly obese, highly unattractive skanks have the right to be sportswriters.

by RIP Logan Young on Sep 23, 2007 11:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Props to Gundy. Here’s a guy who realizes that his job is going to be on the line this year, and responds by going berserk. This is a good move for him because after they play their next conference opponent and lose (in CS, TX by the way), he’ll have the simple out at the press conference of yelling at the media.

I’d also like everyone to note the point in the rant at which that idiot declares that Carlson should go after his players “Who aren’t doing the right thing.” Another good call. Now when his guys get arrested, he’s already admitted to the press that they weren’t doing the right thing, so that makes it ok…right?

On to the serious matter, Robby Bobby Robert Reid is not a team player, and attitude is why he’s sitting on the bench. He’s never been a team guy, and don’t expect him to become one now. That’s not a new rumor, that’s the case. At least he hasn’t ridden the bench with a “High Ankle Sprain” for 4(?) weeks that T Bell was out? And at least Carlson took a higher road than she could’ve. I don’t think she “conjectured” that a black QB could’ve been replaced by a white one in Stillwater, OK, did she?

by the ou jester on Sep 23, 2007 11:33 PM EDT reply actions  

And way to go everyone ripping on Jenni. I don’t personally read her articles since she wastes a valuable AP poll vote on the team “with the prettier uniforms.”

Journalists are ruining America, go OU.

by the ou jester on Sep 23, 2007 11:39 PM EDT reply actions  

i love it – gundy is shitball nuts – and here’s a few points for context

- gundy and his staff spent the offseason publicly describing the fellatio they had performed on reid, and the fellatio that desired to perform – the kid losses on the road to a good uga team, beats an OOC punching bag, and gets benched – his replacement loses to some dude named troy

- gundy has refused to talk about the whole situation w/reid to the press – besides saying players don’t lose starting positions due to injury, he said he didn’t know about reid laughing on the sideline when asked about it at a press conference

- he’s also completely closed off practice to the press in a state where people live on college foobaw

all things considered, he created a huge story, then wouldn’t let anyone get close to it or comment on it himself – the okie public is hungry for anything regarding this situation – now, i’m no fan of carlson by any stretch, or the shit rag she writes for, but in that situation, someone’s gonna print whatever they can about it

and here’s the kicker…instead of talking about a huge win for the pokes at his press conference, he flipped out and diverted all the attention away from all those poor amateur athletes who just got a huge victory on the field

by okiedomer on Sep 23, 2007 11:40 PM EDT reply actions  

  1. Magpie — don’t be so sure. FAU is #2 in the country in turnover margin and Tavious Polo has five interceptions in the last two games.

by The Big Dog on Sep 23, 2007 11:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Okiedomer, thank you for filling in some backstory, and for being reasonable in the process. What the hell are you doing on the internets?

by PJ from NU in SF on Sep 23, 2007 11:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Gundy has virtually blocked off all media access to his program – stupid considering he’s a second-rate program in a third-rate market – and he gets pissed when someone tries to explain why he benched his starting quarterback without an explanation? In the most unprofessional of ways? These kids are adults, lets stop that bullshit right now. The value of a scholarship, and everything that comes with it, push $40,000 a year, even at a state school. If these kids can get sucked off on national TV, they can be told they suck, too. They’re not babies, stop treating them as such. Fuck you Mike Gundy.

This entry will be on every scouting report in the Big 12: “Keep it close in the fourth, doesn’t respond well to pressure.”

by NoleinTexas on Sep 24, 2007 12:47 AM EDT reply actions  

BTW, loved the reference #52. Truly obscure.

by NoleinTexas on Sep 24, 2007 12:49 AM EDT reply actions  

“That cunt is no good.” Sorry, I was just watching Slapshot.

by SeaTrojan on Sep 24, 2007 1:05 AM EDT reply actions  

BecomeTubbsbitch: Yes, being able to put thoughts into correctly spelled and punctuated sentences is a dead giveaway of writterhood.

By the way, are you related to a Buckeye fan called Wayne? On both your mother’s and your father’s side?

by bradluen on Sep 24, 2007 1:23 AM EDT reply actions  

After seeing a picture of said Jenni Carlson, clearly the whole if-they-call-your-kid-fat line is a thinly veiled, backhanded smack of hilarity.

by Stephen Colboar on Sep 24, 2007 1:36 AM EDT reply actions  

No, the funny part is that Gundy now admits he should have shut up and prepared a statement, instead of letting the world see him behave like a jerk.

by PJ from NU in SF on Sep 24, 2007 2:17 AM EDT reply actions  

After watching the tirade and reading the article… I feel soiled. I gave a lousy excuse of a journalist an extra web hit on her article.
They don’t get paid to write well or even legibly. They get paid to sell ad space and create controversy. Why get in an uproar about it? It only plays into their hands.

by maomatt on Sep 24, 2007 4:30 AM EDT reply actions  

If you look closely as the coach exits, I believe you can see “Jenni” standing along the wall. If that’s not her, that’s the woman he was staring at as he was going off.

by Brandon Lang on Sep 24, 2007 6:47 AM EDT reply actions  

mike gundy is a blithering moron multiplied by an idiot. college athletes are not immune, they enjoy benefits no other students receive. they receive free education, they’re never without a sufficient job, they’re treated like gods, when they graduate they receive opportunities from fans and boosters no other student receives, etc etc etc etc. in other words, they ARE paid, and paid well.

osu is a pathetic program with a pathetic coach who’d rather talk about some idiot writer’s news column then about an amazingly fortunate win over texas tech. someone prescribe this lunatic some lythium. he’s working for a horrible university with a horrible athletic program, he should be thankful there isn’t a major paper that devotes every page to how horrible the oklahoma state elements are.

by the way, did anyone watching that game see the roger staubach interview? apparently slim pickens is buying major ex-athletes and making them wear osu gear.

by semper on Sep 24, 2007 7:50 AM EDT reply actions  

“I may no be a smart man, Jenni, but I know what love is. Now clean my damn house, woman.”
~Forrest

by Grateful Gator on Sep 24, 2007 8:00 AM EDT reply actions  

“I may not be a smart man, Jenni, but I know what love is. Now clean my damn house, woman.”
~Forrest

by Grateful Gator on Sep 24, 2007 8:00 AM EDT reply actions  

After he left the press room, Gundy ran to the nearest window, opened it and screamed at the top of his lungs, “I’m mad as hell and I’m not going to take it anymore!”

by yoyofutbawl on Sep 24, 2007 8:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Perfect situation: I get to laugh at Carlson AND Gundy

btw- Carlson ain’t having any kids without the use of adoption or artificial insemination, NTTAWWT.

by Bud Barry & Bob on Sep 24, 2007 9:17 AM EDT reply actions  

I can’t wait for that jerk Les miles to go back to Michigan so I can run off the next OSU coach that takes the LSU job. – Haley LaFontaine

by Heath on Sep 24, 2007 9:24 AM EDT reply actions  

I’d bet Gundy uses this as a rallying point for the OSU foosball team and they start playing a lot better. That me against the world shit really motivates. The kids love it.

by lance harbor on Sep 24, 2007 11:51 AM EDT reply actions  

for comparison, here’s what famed pirate mike leach had to say after the game – oddly enough, it was about the game – i doubt leach knew about gundy’s meltdown before making this statement, but if he did, i love him even more

“[W]e got hit in the mouth and acted like someone took our lunch money and all we wantd to do is have pout-ey expressions on our face until somebody dobbed our little tears off and made us fucking feel better. Then we go out there and try harder once our mommies told us we were OK.”

by okiedomer on Sep 24, 2007 12:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Gundy’s main point is how Carlson uses the implication, that Reid is a weak child that requires coddling, and poultry, from his mother, to explain why Reid was benched. Which is a pretty lame starting point for an article. So fucking what if Momma Reid was feeding her son by the school bus? I heard Tim Tebow still breast feeds (see Holly’s tits) and if that what it takes then Click Clack Muthaphuckas, give me some titty milk.

And for fuck’s sake stop misinterpreting the phrase “players don’t lose their position to injury.” That’s simply a nice way of saying “Bobby Reid’s injury didn’t cause him to lose his starting status. The fact that Zac played better in practice is why Bobby lost his start.”

“You know what man? I’m so sick of this bullshit. What, I’m supposed to APOLOGIZE for my Pickens leaving me money? All I EVER wanted to be was a coach. I go out there and take it to the max everyday. I’m the first guy through the door and I’m always the last one to leave the field. So you know what? Fuck you, and fuck them, and fuck EVERYBODY that’s got a problem with Mike GUN-dy.” Bad boys what you gonna do.

by MeytonPanning on Sep 24, 2007 12:14 PM EDT reply actions  

As for Ms. Carlson, I don’t know her, I don’t read the Oklahoman enough to be familiar with her material, and I don’t know where she’s getting her source material for this, so don’t think I’m sticking up for her.

However, you have to have a thick skin as a D-1A (no I will not say b*wl s*bd*v*s**n) head coach, especially one in a BCS conference. You have to be above this sort of thing.

Not only that, if you don’t like the story, you don’t have to go Chernobyl on the reporter. You can say “no comment” if they ask about it. You can use coachspeak (why do you think it was invented). You can have the SID or whoever’s running the press conference simply not call on them. Hell, you can even pull credentials and deny access.

As fun as meltdowns are, and as much disregard as some in this forum seems to have for the reporter, it speaks to something wrong with the coach. You don’t see Jim Tressel , Urban Meyer, Mack Brown, Pete Carroll, Bill Belichick, or Tony Dungy blowing up like this do you?

Conversely, Denny “Crown their ass” Green, Jim “Playoffs?” Mora, and Mike Ditka are all famous for their meltdowns. All three of them got fired shortly after melting down.

by R.D. Baker - Retired Blogger on Sep 24, 2007 12:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Good call Meyton. Robby didn’t lose his starting spot because of injury. Once again, that is a large portion of the article.

Since Gundy closed practices (something that’s actually really good to do if you do it right, note, about 80 miles south) no one gets to see that Robinson’s better in practice. They just see the guy that cost them the game at Troy and the guy that beat FAU (who, as is already pointed out in this thread, has a decent defense). Aside from wasting the post game interviews after what will undoubtedly be the biggest win on OSU’s season, the article is what everyone wants to see. Everyone except the mother of a guy who has to ride the bench because of his bad attitude. The Oklahoman is putting out an article that tries to explain why the QB controversy is siding the way that it is. That’s there job. It’s why they exist. If Gundy can’t handle the criticism on his player or himself for making the decision based on attitude, then he needs to do something different, explain himself again, use the game that just happened as justification, open practices, rotate Qbs, put Reid in as a receiver, just do something different, and here’s the stretch, intelligent. Gundy is an idiot as is Carlson, the problem is, Jenni’s making money off of this, and Mikie is making an ass of himself and his program nationally.

And guys, Tim Tebow better still be breast-feeding. How else can explain all that baby-fat?

by the ou jester on Sep 24, 2007 12:34 PM EDT reply actions  

This coach would never last one week in the SEC if he gets his panties in a twist over a newspaper article. I was surprised he didn’t start crying at the end…saying “I love these kids”.

by nicksabanishunglikeasquirrel on Sep 24, 2007 12:56 PM EDT reply actions  

On another note, maybe Gundy’s outburst was a two-for. 1. He gets to defend his player from an idiotic reporter who likes to create reasons why his starter was benched. 2. He gets a public oppurtunity to be seen as a player’s coach.

Remember when Jim Leyland went nuts at the news conference? Fast forward and Jimmy is coaching the Tigers in the World Series. Remember when the Chic-Cubs had their abysmal start and ol Lou Pinella went haywire? Now the Cubs are 3.5 games up on the Brew Crew and 9 games away from the post season.

So I think Gundy was pissed that Carlson may have used some creative license (I mean, come on, what does her using the Momma Reid feeding have to do with Bobby’s benching?) in coming up with headline material for “why” Bobby isn’t playing. And now his players get to see him unleash his wrath on some MS word jockey. Or (here’s a stretch) Bobby Reid sees his coach going “this-is-sparta” on Carlson’s ass and starts to play better in practice. Whatever the reason I’m now a Mike Gundy fan. Right or not, at least watching him is not boring.

by MeytonPanning on Sep 24, 2007 1:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey, she’s the biggest Bobby Reid fan. Maybe she’s just disappointed?

http://www.newsok.com/video/brightcove/?bctid=1184496151&bclid=1112157274

by UgasTexan on Sep 24, 2007 1:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Gundy received two letters when he took over at OSU.

Letter One: “Blame everything on Jenni Carlson.”

Letter Two: “Go write two letters.”

by stapler on Sep 24, 2007 4:28 PM EDT reply actions  

All I know is if my coach had just defended one of my teammates — whom he just benched — in a press conference like that, I’d be ready to head-butt every brick wall in the zip code with my bare forehead for the guy…

by Papa Lou BSU on Sep 24, 2007 4:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Division 1-A football players on full scholarship are not kids and neither are they amateurs. Yeah, the article sucked but two wrongs don’t make a right. If I were an OSU alumni I would want that coach fired. He is an embarrassment to the university and to college football.

by nonplussed on Sep 24, 2007 8:52 PM EDT reply actions  

pretty hard to do, but he’s actually succeeded at being an embarassment to a university who itself is an embarassment

by semper on Sep 24, 2007 11:53 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m a man who discovered the wheel, and built the Eiffel Tower
out of metal and brawn!

by syc brown on Sep 25, 2007 12:40 AM EDT reply actions  

“Division 1-A football players on full scholarship are not kids and neither are they amateurs.”

sorry, that is not correct. many div 1 players are still teens, and if you are paid, hire an agent, etc, you will be precluded from playing, see the skier from who was playing (see Jeremy Bloom —>http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=2428041

by ARGH on Sep 25, 2007 2:31 AM EDT reply actions  

They’re getting a free education for playing football. If they can’t handle a little criticism, turn in your jersey and head to the library.

by Raider Red on Sep 25, 2007 11:40 AM EDT reply actions  

She ain’t that bad looking! Besides, beauty is only a light switch away.
Or a few more beers.
Scotch if you got it. Scotch is good.

We’ll trade you, though. Dennis for Mike. Straight up. At least Gundy isn’t a pretty good high school coach.

by aggie_dad on Sep 25, 2007 2:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Good job, Mike. What exactly does playing quarterback have to do with eating chicken anyway? I live in Columbia, SC. If people want to zero in on an immature college athlete, how about Blake Mitchell? For those of you who don’t know about Blake Mitchell, here it goes. He is the backup quartetback for the Gamecocks. Steve Spurrier just benched him a few days ago, for the second time. I haven’t seen Bobby Reid play yet, but I’ll bet he’s a damn sight better than Mitchell. Off the field, Mitchell has repeatedly been in trouble, whether it be in the classroom(poor attendence) or a bar(barfight with a bouncer in 2006, for which he was arrested). If Ms. Carlson is going to bash a football player over a so-called attitude problem, she should at least find a more glaring example. In the meantime, she should lay off the twinkies and focus more on herself. After all, she has enough problems there.

by Matt on Sep 27, 2007 8:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Did everyone see this site http://www.mikegundyismadatyou.com it is too funny.

by Mike on Sep 27, 2007 12:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Too bad Gundy can’t be a class act like Bobby Stoops! Boooooooooomer Sooooooooner!

by mary g on Sep 27, 2007 2:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Everyone who is interested in this situation needs to read the column that Whitlock wrote in the Kansas City newspaper for whom Jenni previously worked. It is eloquently written and really puts the situation in perspective. I am a college basketball coach’s wife and if you choose to have a close relationship with your players (some do and some don’t) you really cannot imagine what he was feeling. I was so sickened by the article on Saturday morning that I didn’t finish reading it at that time. As for the people who criticized Gundy for not congratulating his team, all I have to say is that sometimes other things are more important. I will assure you that his team understood and supports him and Bobby Reid. That article was based on “rumors and rumblings” and as Gundy said was “garbage”.

by Beth on Sep 28, 2007 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

As a current Oklahoma State University student and OSU fan, I will tell you that neither are we ashamed or embarrased to have Mike Gundy heading up our football program. Our feelings for him, you might say, have grown strong since last weekends incident. Maybe he could have reacted more tastefully, but he didn’t. The fact remains that he publically repremanded Carlson, just has she publically chasticized the character of Bobby Reid. The article she wrote was in poor taste, it’s one thing to criticize a player’s performance and another to go after his character. Especially when you haven’t taken the time to actually gather your quotes and look for facts aside from “rumors and grumbling.” Gundy has gained a lot of respect from his players and the students here for his impassioned defense of Reid.

As for criticisim against Oklahoma State’s football program, what does bashing that have anything to do with what transpired last weekend? Gundy has brought some great wins to his cowboys against Nebraska last year, and lets not forget the Independence bowl win against Alabama.

If Jenni Carlson had just stuck to reporting about the nerves of Reid or how his performance had not been up to par the past few weeks then there wouldn’t have been a problem. She crossed the line on this one. Calling anyone a momma’s boy is fighting words, and Gundy fought back.

Yes, Gundy’s “tirade” did take a bit from the win against Tech. That’s dissapointing. But gaining the respect and admiration of his players and thousands of fans? Well worth the trade.

by Shirley on Sep 29, 2007 11:22 AM EDT reply actions  

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