CURIOUS INDEX, 9/4/07

Almost nothing brings me more joy than kittens attacking Ann Arbor.

What? Bowling Green?

I’d love to gloat abotu the UM thing, but then, ND had a game this weekend too. Wish I could remember what happened, all i know is I woke up on the floor next to an empty handle of Jack.

hmmm… let me check ESPN….

Yup, Ok, that explains the blackout drinking.

Sylvester Croom never would’ve “popped off” to Tommy West. Of course Sylvester Croom would’ve lost that game, but that’s besides the point.

BTW, Sherrill told West to tell Joe Lee Dunn (then DC, and former MSU DC) that he was glad JLD circled the MSU game on the calender that summer. Funny how it actually took West a couple beats to process what Kang Jackie said.

I’m in ur field goal formationz steelin ur national title hopez

I’m in ur cupcake gamez… steelin ur 400,000 moneys

After last night, for the first time in so long I can’t even remember, it’s actually not fun talking smack to FSU fans…. they are just so beaten down and completely resigned to the fact that their team sucks that they don’t even have enough strength to feign indignation. In other words, this is a fantastic way to start a shortened work week. Cheers!

I missed Trickett’s monologue, but I did see a sequence right before the half where FSU’s offense failed to get a first down again. Drew Weatherford is sitting on the sideline talking into his headset and looking confused, and then it cuts to Jimbo in the box with deer-in-the-headlights eyes yelling into his headset and gesturing wildly.

All the while, a graphic is on the screen saying:
FLORIDA STATE OFFENSE
10 drives, 31 plays, 62 total yards
22 YARDS ON FIRST PLAY

Absolutely priceless. The Semis only had one first down the whole first half.

i don’t want to speak for the entire sec or anything…but we miss you jackie. maybe you could give ole miss a call.

This is the first LOL Catz or rip off of it that has actually made me laugh.

This is the first LOL Catz or rip off of it that has actually made me laugh. Nice find

Guys, I may be alone here, but I don’t think FSU is that bad of a team. They are incredibly young and their inexperience reared its head at various inopportune times (multiple offsides penalties on 3rd down plays, poor tackling, dropped passes, confusion about blocking assigments all night) but they still almost overcame a 21-point deficit on a rival’s field. Had they taken the first blocked punt into the endone instead of getting tackled and havig to settle for a FG, they would only have needed a FG at the end to tie. As shaky as Weatherford was, I think he could’ve managed to get them into FG range late in the 4th.

Also, I think you saw the conditioning of the O-line come into play in the second half (except for the last series) when they were able to finally make some blocks on a tired Clemson defense.

They will probably roll into Ganesville with a 7-4 record, but their staff will have corrected some of the mental errors and they’ll be a dangerous opponent by the end of this season and I’m not looking forward to playing them.

#8: Ol’ Jackie hasn’t gone too far because he was on the sidelines during Miss State’s Thursday night game vs. LSU.

Day 3 of a lifetime of being a national joke – it still sucks. Carry on.

Ole Miss can have Jackie. If it weren’t for Sherrill’s lack of interest in the program, we wouldn’t have been saddled with our own self-imposed probation (the Croom era).

Last night should be filed under “hangovers of staggering intensity.” I am feeling it this morning.

Regardless, personally, I think FSU is the 2nd coming of the ‘85 Bears. The ’85 Bears, yeah, yeah, that’s the ticket…

Seriously, FSU appeared to get their act together towards the end, or we got into the fetal position and tried our bes to give it to them.

On to formerly directional Louisiana school.

I think last night’s game proves once again that you cannot make chicken salad from chicken shit.

Wooderson,

You still guaranteeing 9 wins for ND this season, big guy?

I want to come reply to all the Michigan bashing with some snappy remark, but there’s nothing to say. Michigan didn’t want to play this game, or at the very least assumed they could just show up and App. State would wilt. Watching them celebrate on the field is one of the worst moments of my life.

And it’s only going to get worse. I have terrifying visions of Oregon scorching our defense on Saturday. It’s going to be a bloodbath.

I didn’t see the game, but from what I’ve heard Matt Stafford can pick up and throw more than just kegs.

I thought we might have seen the sub-commandante make an appearance.

ND is clearly not in the rebuilding mode. The ND nation is going to turn on Weis faster than anyone who doesn’t know a lot of ND alums could ever imagine.

Unlikely, #19. The overpowering hatred of Willingham will carry us through this year.

Last night was a perfect showcase of Drew Weatherford. His play early on wasn’t great(yes, the O-line can take some of the blame). Then, he manages to get the offense going. However, just when his team needs him the most he makes bonehead plays and ultimately loses the game.

The game did make me wish that somehow Spiller would have ended up playing for UF. I don’t know how he ended up playing out of state.

Coop,

I now understand your animosity towards my LSU mascot posts (which are widely popular in some Pacific Asian countries, mind you). You’re a Clemson fan. You don’t have a tiger. You have a rock. You don’t have a song you wrote. You ripped off Tiger Rag from LSU. You don’t have school colors, you have a color blindness test for a uniform.

I can only imagine how it is to go through life with these impediments and shortcomings. I will do my dead level best to provide you with better and more entertainings scribblings in order to somehow brighten your days.

Please, take care of yourself. Get some water (propel always does it for me) for that hangover. Think pretty thoughts about Bowden’s daugter. We need you in the best of shape to withstand the inevitable Tommy Bowden choke job after starting 7-1 or so and rocketing into the top ten.

Dave, we still have a shot at it. UM certainly doesn’t look as tough as we thought they did.

LSUJoshua -

I wouldn’t discount Clempson so much. They’ve completed the secret formula to become a juggernaut program. They’ve scheduled Auburn. When teams schedule Auburn in a home-and-home, they go from ordinary to extraordinary (see USC, West Virginia). Dammit.

PW @ #11, the only point I have to make regarding your comments are that in any game wherein each play stands on its own, there are infinite variables which determine the final outcome of a game. To say “if they made that field goal, they only would need another field goal to win” obviates the possibility that the Clemson safety may never have occurred which would have enabled the field goal to be a winning score. If one play came out differently, any of the others could have and would have also.

I guess my point, as a Gator, is only that reFSU took a hard one to the courting tackle and any way you look at it is satisfying…

Wooderson – Seriously? You watched that pathetic excuse for an offense and thought, They can get this righted and win nine games. I mean Michigan lost to Appalachian State. And that’s leaving aside the porous defense. I had delusions of adequacy during the Goff years at UGA, but nothing even rivalling that.

Being a Gator, I have little experience in being sympathetic to FSU’s plight . . . but I don’t think I have ever seen an offensive line perform as poorly as the Seminole’s did in the first half of the game.

The Clemson defenders were in the backfield so quickly it seemed they must have been getting a push in that direction from the Nole players.

That being said, Clemson inability to put a scoring drive together in the second half brings into question the team’s strength.

This game reminded me a bit of the UCF – NCSU game on Saturday.

What’s more potent, the SI curse (Mike Hart on the cover), or Lou Holtz picking your QB to win the Heisman — pretty sure he loved ND against Tech as well??? THE Appilation State University (tASU) sort of ended all of that in short order.

The defense wasn’t as pourous as it usually is, Rick, and for once we weren’t getting torched deep. Giving up the ball deep in your own territory so many times is not conducive to keep points of the board, and the D did a good job early on to hold them to field goals. Which is a step up. 9 games is still do-able, so unless we end up 0-4, might want to keep the gloating down a bit. also, I’d look out for GT come Nov. when you guys have to play them.

Day 3 of a lifetime of being a national joke – it still sucks. Carry on.

It’s not that I’m unsympathetic – my father in law teaches at Michigan and I haven’t had the heart to talk to him about this yet – but you haven’t scratched the surface of embarrassing losses.

To wit: imagine being a Scotland supporter in international soccer, and have them lose to the Faroe Islands, a team composed mostly of teachers and part time fishermen. I’m not saying that Scotland = Michigan here, I’m just saying I have a good idea of what you’re going through.

While I saw sideline shots of Papa B tossing off a few “dadgums” last night and going through the (slow) motion of spiking his hat, his overall affect was that of a man thinking of vanilla pudding. It’s not clear to me who, if anyone, is running that show these days.

Georgia Tech’s passing game isn’t exactly going to scare people. Giving up over 200 yards rushing when there isn’t much threat of a passing game is pretty porous, regardless of turnovers. I thought six wins would be about right for Notre Dame this year. After watching that, I think the Navy game will be the difference between a 5-7 or 4-8 season.

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It has all the makings of a wonderful soap opera. You can bet your sweet ass that either Amato or Fisher will leave Tallahassee in a pissed off mood once the other (or someone else?) takes over after they realize that Bobby’s actually been deceased for the past 8 years.

and 25,

I’ll concede that you’re correct in saying that changing the outcome of one play will affect subsequent playcalling decisions, thus rendering any discussion of “what might’ve been had X happened” purely speculative. However, I will stick by my broader point, that FSU isn’t as shitty as everyone is making them out to be.

Too bad Cap’n Leach lost all those receivers snicker.

Somebody who wears purple and gold as their colors is ripping on Clemson’s orange and purple, for the last couple of years anyway?

We had a tiger. What we don’t have is a vet school, not that it is something to long for. Vets, after all, are not doctors, or they are doctors like psychologists are equal to psychiatrists or optometrists are equal to opthamologists. No comparison.

As for Tiger Rag, fair enough. You can lay claim to the fight song.

You can also lay claim to the batshit Napoleonic Code, and, of course, “smelling like corndogs.”

I might, might, accept insults from a school of our academic caliber, or at least the righteous indignation meter would not shoot up, but you are not someone to concern ourselves with, recent renaissance in college football, aside.

some teams can handle div I-AA heat- Roll Tide Motherfuckers

Fucking Meechigan. I almost feel their pain. Notre Dame losing, however, brings me joy. That shit be Chantastic.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3003938

Somebody call Beano, cause JC is starting!

Ah, academic smack. The fallback position of the truly desperate foobaw fan. Take a look around, there’s a video above this post with a ref farting. Book learnin’ ain’t too high a priority ’round these parts. Wins and conference titles are.

And, yes, I am trash talking purple and orange. Everyone here has seen those purple pant/orange or purple jerseys and orange helmet abominations that are affront to our Creator. Everyone has also seen the all orange ensemble. They speak for themselves.

I will crawl home now and attempt to compose a post regarding mascots that will appease your educated tastes and soothe that distasteful hangover.

Back in 1999, when Bama lost to La Tech for the 2nd time in 3 years (before the probation era excuse of course) but still went on to win the SEC, only to lose to Michigan in the Orange Bowl, was La Tech Div 1?

Was UAB division 1 when they beat LSU? Can’t remember.

FSU must have 30 coaches on the sidelines.

As a bonus, they had 2 “lawyers” on the sideline (one in a tank top undershirt) when Jones was brought down at the one. Classic dudes.

tOSU, UAB was division 1A when they beat LSU, but only something like three years out of 1AA and the football program was around a decade old. Awful game and I among many thought Saban was another Hallman/Dinardo.

Not sure about LaTech, but I think they were 1A

UAB and LaTech were both Div 1.

And batshit Napoleonic Code is where its at. All other law pales in comparison.

1. have we really been proven otherwise yet?

Seriously, the 2001 SEC title was won with 3 conference losses. The 2003 BCS NC was won without having to beat a conference champion and LSU was not undefeated that year either.

Honestly, besides being able to recruit in a state that is an absolute goldmine and winning a couple of watered-down SEC titles and a NC against a conference runner-up, what has he really done to garner all the love…oh that’s right…he got off the plane in T-Town when no-one else would…forgot about that.

Until he coaches an undefeated team and knocks off the defending national champion in the BCS NCG like Mack Brown, Tressel, and Bob Stoops have all done, I just don’t think he deserves to be in their company. All three of those coached lead their teams to undefeated seasons and beat an undefeated, defending national champion. Saban beat a conference runner-up who had their asses handed to them by USC the year before.

I just think that if you really want to be considered the best of the best you have to go undefeated and beat the defending national champion (provided the defending national champion is not a chump).

#44
your hatred only makes us stronger.

Also, was that a fucking penguin mascot I saw on the sidelines? A fucking penguin?

Shit nevermind, I forgot, a middle of the road SEC team with 2 losses is better than any conference champion from another conference, as Tennessee proved to us Saturday night.

I mean a team like Tenn never loses to Nebraska 42-14 & 31-21 or Penn State 42-17 & 31-13, or K-State 35-21, or MARYLAND 30-3, or Penn State 20-10, or the love of god, the team everyone is laughing at NOTRE DAME 41-21 and 17-13…and ND is the joke? Okay they are a joke…lol.

That shit just doesn’t happen, right?

And let’s not forget – Saban lost at home by 12 to [NAME REDACTED] and a freshman QB that year, which seems like an even bigger asterisk on that NC than their Sugar Bowl opponent.

#45

It is what it is…I hate you and you hate me…it’s been that way since Sherman ran through Atlanta…it’s just a shame we let you fuckers back into the Union…should have removed you from the face of the earth when we had the chance…now we have to listen to how great the SEC is and how nice people are in the south for the rest of our lives…thanks Sherman you lazy bastard…finish the damn job next time.

1. - let us play in your conference and I guarantee there would be a shitload of undefeated runs for MNCs.

I did not see the penguin. Thanks for the tip, CapstoneAlum. I’ll have to find a clip of that. You have now given meaning to my Tuesday.

#49

FYI – there have only been 3 in the big ten since 1994 and Penn State got screwed in 94. SEC has had Bama in 92, Tenn in 98, and Auburn got screwed in 2004. Not that much different.

tOSUbuckeyes is just a bitter schmuck, I’m sure life hasn’t been easy since his rust-belt factory job was sent overseas. Additionaly, it can’t be easy living with extreme cognitive dissonance- wanting to believe his team and its conference is worth a shit, but then deep down knowing ( florida/osu last year, asu/mich this year) that midwest football sucks

tOSU

Much like Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy, there is no such thing as a “watered down SEC title.”

@ 27

“Being a Gator, I have little experience in being sympathetic to FSU’s plight . . . but I don’t think I have ever seen an offensive line perform as poorly as the Seminole’s did in the first half of the game.”

Oh, I dunno, how about the 2005 UF game

#51
The season is young and just because Florida beat Ohio State does not mean Midwest Football sucks – that would be like Nebraska saying southern football sucks after it ran through the Gators 62-24.

How quick we forget. Just remember this, there was a place and time when college football was pure, pure as the driven snow. When football players were scholar-atheletes who often times left the field and the class room to go fight in a war, who took actual classes, who actually walked away from college football with more than just the wins and losses…and when players were not making the headlines in the paper for firing semi-automatic weapons, and being allowed to play football again.

That time did exist.

Just look at the 1940’s to the 1960’s.

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/national_championships/poll_results.php?year=1936

#36, Bravo, sir. Bravo.

10 years ago, I could’ve made the same joke about KSU.

#48
Your statement is factually inaccurate. I do not hate you. I think you are a goofy shit, but I do not hate you. You have major issues with all things from the South, and I would love to find out what is really the root of the hatred. Even money on it involving cool whip, a live chicken and a weed-eater..

Re #45: Since Sweatervest used to coach at YSU, perhaps he can borrow the Fucking Penguin for use on his sideline for the game against the University of Michigan Fuck Lions.

56 +1

I could also point him the the gross fraud that Ohio’s congressmen used in stealing the reconstruction money from Kentucky, but surely a big fan of history like tOSU already knows that

RTR

How can a Big Ten fan even begin to talk shit ? The supposedly best team in your conference just got beat AT HOME BY A DIV 1AA SCHOOL!

And going undefeated in the Big Ten just means you get beat by a one loss SEC team by approximately the same margin as Western Kentucky.

Help me out here #45…when has OSU beaten an SEC team?
I know UF beat your ass, Herbstreit still hates UGA after what they did to him in 92, and the mighty gamecocks made short work of you guys two years running.
OSU fans have about as much room to talk smack about the SEC as Mark Mangino has room to talk smack about Wiess and Fulmer’s waistlines.

And you guys base all of that on 1 game Florida vs. Ohio State.

Never mind that at one time a 4-6-1 John Cooper coached team beat then SEC champions LSU during the regular season – never fucking mind that – we suck, we’ve always sucked, and we will always suck because the south is god’s chosen land and the SEC is his chosen conference. The South will rise again.

LMAO @ 59.

Actually tOSU, we base it on the fact that Ohio State has lost something like eight straight games to SEC opponents.

1981 a Bill Curry led GT team started off the season by beating Alabama 24-21…only to go on and lose every one of their remaining games and finish 1-10.

We might have had our asses handed to us by a better Gator team in the NCG, but we have never ever been the lone win on any 1-10 team.

Ironically GT has a knack for doing that has they have done it to Western Carolina, Memphis, Clemson, and Alabama.

Even crazier, GT returned the favor to Michigan in 1934 by being Michigan’s only win in a 1-7 season.

That is crazy, tOSU. Not as crazy as you, but pretty crazy.

#33, I agree that Florida will get every bit reFSU has and any additional help reFSU can buy from the refs when they play us this year, which, as history has shown is sometimes all it takes to pull down a W. Sonsabitches…that’s what made last night’s “Evening at Blobbie’s” so entertaining. Just how did they get Blobbie’s dead arms to reach up and fake-toss that hat to the ground?

tOSU, you don’t like the south?

Another noteworthy accomplish by a shitty Georgia Tech team came in 1980 when their 3-3 tie with Notre Dame combined with Georgia’s miracle against Florida propelled Georgia to #1. Tech finished the season 1-9-1.

You’re all saying that GT stinks, but if every team that plays ND this year stinks up the place to the tune of 33-3, I’ll be a happy woman.

Also, KITTEH!!!

tOSU, one game against Florida? Come on now….

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I wonder if the other coaches openly talk about Bobby during meetings with him in attendance, much like one would with a senile aunt.

I was pained to find that their were no ‘Bonkers bouncing in the booth’ upon reading this log.

South Carolina was undefeated in ’88 and ranked in the top 15 or 10, and traveled to Atlanta to face a winless, at that time, Tech team.

I think Tech beat them by a score of 34-0.

It was ridiculous.

Tech has a habit of beating highly ranked teams.

1988 – the Tanneyhill glory years