MARK MANGINO HAS SOME WORDS FOR YOU

And why, exactly, is diving into the endzone on a touchdown a penalty? No one has ever been able to explain that to me very well.

Good for Mangino. Screw this rampant ‘Me Me Me’ trend in all sports. Its not the NB-gottdamned-A; its football. I hope that kid has to run bleachers until he pukes and apologizes to his blocking team.

That said, was that drool or spittle when Mangino called him a hotdog?

God bless the internets. Without them, we’d never get to see the glandular hobgoblin at his very best.

It’s a penalty because people who do it are assholes.

mmmmm….hot dogs.

That’s EXCELLENT!

Mark Mangino, motivational speaker. Apparently, these KU kids think they’re going to go out and grab the world by the tail and put it in their pockets. Mangino is here to tell them that this may not be the case.

It might be a penalty, but it’s a ridiculous penalty. He didn’t do the Heisman pose or the cutthroat or spike the ball in someone’s face. No, it’s just the NCAA, in its endless quest to be PC, slowly outlawing all emotion. We can’t hurt the feelings of the other kiddies on the field.

And while we’re at it, why are they singling out football? You still see fist pumping in college basketball and baseball. Nobody’s getting T’d up in the tournament for chest pounding.

The untold story here is that Pendleton was caught in Mangino’s donut box just prior to kick off. Given that background, Mangino’s diatribe is totally appropriate.

Fist pumping is self-motivating, diving into the end zone is taunting. It serves no purpose other than to embarrass your opponent, which he already did with the return for a TD. I see no reason why you should stick up for asshole histrionics like that.

I can see why Pendleton was confused though. Mangino calling him hot dog? He probably thought it was a compliment. He wandered away wondering if coach was mad at him or proud of him.

“You did it on your own. Look what the fuck you did…”

Microphone turns off…

“Now go get me a 12 goddam twinkies and a cheese sammich…”

And that, my friends, is why Mangino must have donuts standing by at all times to keep him pacified. If a ref calls back a KU touchdown, I fear he may resort to cannibalism.

pendleton was holding his breath so as to not inhale any of the pork rib/twice baked potato/ice cream cake fumes billowing from that gut. unfortunately his eye brows gave up and fell out.

Mangino be pissed!

#11: Just add greasy onion rings and a fudge brownie for the worst breath/greatest motivator of all time. Kansas players would become model citizens and lead their team to a 10-2 record, just to avoid Mangino’s mouth of horrors.

Jabba was irritated by that penalty.

&nbsp &nbsp What will be tragic is when one of those goofballs pulls that stunt, breaks a neckbone, and is lost for the season. Snowboarder Trey Smith got by with one of those silly things last year against the Gators. And Pontiac promoted that play for the rest of the year…

&nbsp &nbsp That particular Kansas self-celebration was a particularly poor attempt at a somersault. Looked like a good way to separate a shoulder!

1. You’re over-reacting a bit. He dove into the endzone, whoop-de-fuckin’-do. If you’ve ever played football then you would know that leaping into the endzone is a natural reaction when you get close to the goal line.

Watch the video between 32 and 28 seconds. If that “offends” you, then perhaps you should start watching NCAA soccer instead. Hell, one of his teammates leaped onto his shoulders at the end — I say we suspend that SOB for the season. No emotion anymore, dammit!

Corndog fans better pray that they never have to play a Mangino team.

pork rib/twice baked potato/ice cream cake

For Mangino, that’s one single food item.

Anyway, good for him. Whether it should be a penalty or not, it’s a penalty and players need to not so fucking boneheaded.

Suddeny, I see Mangino in a new light.
And that’s a good thing.

If you’ve ever played football

That’s always a weak argument, which makes sense, since you’re arguing on behalf of a selfish move. Go ahead and show me where I said it offended me and where I said he should be suspended. No?

You asked why it’s a penalty and I explained it to you, in the simplest terms possible.
Asshole move.

“Look what the f*ck you did!” Classic.

“Son, act like you’ve been there before”.

-Paul W. Bryant, circa 1979

if only he had grabbed Pendelton’s helmet, dragged him back to the goal line, shoved his nose in the flag and beat him with a rolled up newspaper while spewing that glorious fuck-string and screaming “look what you just did!!?!?!”

… if only…..

Mangino is one fat motherfucker.

#9, you say fist pumping is self motivating, ill give you that. How about chest pounding? Thats the most me-first reaction there is, and its never called, nor should it, because nobody gives a damn. If you return a punt 70-some yards, the least youve earned is a damn dive into the endzone. How is a dive me-first? hes finishing off a play the same with that a basketball player finishes off a breakaway with a dunk rather then a conventional layup. Embarass your opponent? HE DIVED IN THE ENDZONE! he didnt even do a Reggie Bush flip, just a normal dive. If your embarassed by that, then you need not be on the gridiron but rather the dance floor with a leotard.

#25
I thought about what you said, so I asked Jim Brown, Jerry Rice, Walter Payton, Emmitt Smith, Barry Sanders, Ladainian Tomlinson, Marcus Allen, Terrell Davis, Priest Holmes, Steve Largent, Lance Allworth, Marvin Harrison, and Curtis Martin what they thought. They said it’s an asshole move, so I guess we’ll go ahead and take their word for it, since they’ve scored over a thousand TD’s without the need to prance around like a little cunt and get their team penalized for no fucking reason.
Jesus.

“Suddeny, I see Mangino in a new light.”

Don’t be so sure. It’s impossible to see all of Magino at once, so that light may, in fact, be an old light that is only new to you.

“prance around like a little cunt”?

wtf?

All I was trying to say is that in the grand scheme of things, diving into the end zone is pretty tame compared to some other things. Asshole move? I think that’s a little over-the-top. It’s spontaneous, not planned, not choreographed. Remember the guy last year who got ejected for giving a couple of kids a high-five after a touchdown?

And speaking of Reggie Bush, does anyone remember what happened after he wagged his finger in Urlacher’s face? Yeah, good job, Reg.

Now everyone put your right hand over your heart and recite the Little League pledge after me: “I trust in God, I love my country and will respect its laws. I will play fair and strive to win, but win or lose, I will always do my best.”

Threadjack!!!
Did anyone see this tasty cheap shot by Tom Zbikowski? Some tech fans have Youttubed it for the rest of us:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9YWpdNKfW4

Do you see what happens, Larry?

I don’t know, from that video it’s tough to say he stomped on anybody… more like his leg just got caught in the pile and he was trying to get loose.

Dumbass move by Pendleton. You know that’s a penalty; don’t fucking do it — or face the wrath of your coach.

As for the Zibby video, who knows. It looks like he was stomping on a leg, but maybe because the linemen was holding his leg/twisting an ankle or something? A non-story.

It’s not exactly Brandon Meriweather.

For some reason I equate the name “Mangino” or “mangina” as a deriviative/pejorative of “vagina”…however after watching the video, holy cow…nothing is more masculine nor less vagina-like than that ultra-wide-body. Regardless, his point, though obvious, is probably wasted on someone a third of his weight and a fourth of his age. Asshole move made by one whose level of maturity is scarcely more than adolescent…hope it sinks in.

Heres how I see it—
Chest-pounding is a natural, instinctive reaction—you make a big play, you’re amped up, and you pound your chest.
On the other hand, diving into the endzone (when there is no need to do so) seems like more of a planned, ‘look-at-how-great-I-am’ reaction.
It’s the difference between getting up and yelling after a big sack, and doing Shawn Merriman’s little dance. One is getting caught up in the emotion, while the other is planned to show off.

it’s a good thing sports aren’t, y’know, entertainment. god knows they’d probably have to create a whole new cable TV network for that and everything.

1. - True, but I was thinking of it more in terms of playing to the crowd - i.e., going out of your way to face the crowd and pound on your chest, something that’s clearly meant to bring attention on oneself, which is what the NCAA was trying to stop when they instituted the taunting penalties.

Ok, I guess diving brings attention to oneself, too, but I can’t equate it with a rehearsed dance. It’s just not in the same category. Not to me, at least. It’s hard to totally eliminate the gray area.

1. — I think of “Mandingo” because, after the Nuclear War, when the future archaeologists dig up Youtube’s servers and play that piece, they can only conclude that it is some sort of tribal chant.

So it’s an asshole move? At what point do we need to take away people’s rights to be assholes? Especially when showing their assholish behavior by engaging an activity that has absolutely no impact positively or negatively on the outcome of the game. At least until it became a penalty and started having a bearing on the game.

I fall in the act like you’ve been there crowd as well, but whether or not I like a guy shouldn’t have impact on the game.

I think Florida State made a good move by hiring Jay Paterno as the new offensive coordinator this past off-season.

Diving in the endzone should not be a penalty….I watched idiot refs call this on Santonio Holmes against Michigan in 2005, even though there were 2 UM players within 10 feet of him.

The bottom line is, when you are sprinting for the endzone, you usually don’t know if someone is rigth behind you, possibly attempting to strip you of the ball. So you do what you can to cross the plane in the fastest way possible, you put the ball ahead of you and dive….

We may as well ban sliding in baseball. It might look like a hotdog move to people, but it is a strategically advantageous move and should be allowed…

FSU is trash. How they continue to recieve votes is beyond me. Bobby B needs to retire.

I, for one, am enjoying settling into another fun season of Nolenfreude.

…..and hopefully we won’t hear “FSU didn’t score/only scored three because the SEC defenses are so tough” again this year.

They’re two years away from any significant improvement. Keep in mind, these new coaches didn’t recruit this group of stiffs. And now on top of just sucking, the offense is confused with the new schemes as well. It’s going to take the coaches at least two recruiting classes to make them respectable again.

And no defense can perform when they’re on the field the whole night.

Oddly, Big Dog, I thought you were talking about ND the first time I read your post.

You know, Drew Weatherford really isn’t playing that poorly. He’s running for his life on every passing play and buying enough time to find an open receiver, who inevitably drops the ball. The rest of that offense fucking blows.

Damn Mangino— Orson is right, thank god it wasnt “All you can eat Negro” day at the football field, or Weatherford would have been the buffet.

Classic line from “Blazing Saddles”==Mangino like Candy! Then he knocks the horse the fuck out. Then he eats said horse.

Should you really be storming the field after almost blowing a three touchdown lead?

Storm the field? Well, Bowden always said that if they rush the field when they beat you, you must be doing something right. Obviously FSU isn’t doing much right these days, so I think Clemson fans would have stormed the field for beating pretty much anybody tonight.

1. — I agree. DW didn’t do that badly, and actually came through with some good throws in the second half. O-Line was useless, so Trickett just saw tonight what kind of a job he has transforming what is essentially a group of fat men into blockers.

And I don’t know what the big deal has always been about Greg Carr. He’s just a taller version of Talman Gardner. Hands of stone.

Second half was encouraging, and I think they’ll get better as the season goes along.

I listened to the radio broadcast of the game, since I wasn’t near a TV, and it was pointed out there at least that the students always run out on the field after the game to sing the fight song.

man, mangino tore into that kid like he was teriyaki beef jerky.

it would be tough to take that kind of tongue-lashing from a man with tits like that.

1. +1

Clemson fans rush the field……then have to go back……then the fans rush the field again…….but have to go back.

The final play of the game was under review, and after watching the replay eleventy billion times it’s clear the FSU WR made the catch in bounds. The ref says after review, that it’s not a catch. What?

Couple of weird calls in that game.

Clemson QB should have been called for grounding in his own end zone. No call. I don’t like FSU but was kinda rooting for them to made the huge comback at the end.

“…..and hopefully we won’t hear "FSU didn’t score/only scored three because the SEC defenses are so tough" again this year.”

Domer Guy, should we change it to Georgia Tech defenses and…you get the idea

Signal to Noise at #33 nailed it: Whether or not it should be a penalty, it is a penalty, and Mangino has every right to rip his player a multitude of new ones for knowingly pushing his team back 15 yards just so that he could pull an end-zone move that isn’t even original anymore.

Or maybe this was just the ball carrier’s idea of “civil disobedience” to protest what he saw as an unfair penalty rule. But I doubt it.

At any rate, props to Mangino. I hope we see a lot more of what he did and a lot less end-zone diving.

Not that it mattered all that much since it would have only allowed for a hail mary on the last play, but that last call in the FSU-Clemson game was BS. Here’s why:

Whether the pass was incomplete or caught by the receiver who then stepped out of bounds with his left foot, the same amount of time would have transpired. So the issue should’ve been about how much time was left on the clock after the play, not just whether or not the catch was made. I personally believe there were about 2 seconds left.

But who cares, I’m a UF fan anyway.

I knew they wouldn’t give it to him for the sole reason that the officials didn’t want any problems. The students were already on the field. Can you imagine what would have happened had they given FSU the catch, the ball at the 40 and one more play — and then they score and win the game on that play? Any dumbass could have seen it was a catch and that there was time left, and I’m sure Ron Cherry saw it, too, but he took the safe route as I knew he would. Hopefully it will come up in the ACC conference call this week, but I don’t expect much from it because Cherry is considered one of the top officials in the ACC. Draw you own conclusions about what that says about ACC officials.

did anyone else see the look of “dadgumit” on bobby’s face near the end of the game when he took his hat off? classic

Trickett’s line to his OL after halftime was way harsher than that. He looked at his guys and said, “F*ck you. That’s horsesh*t. F*CK YOU!.”

and then repeat.

Just exactly who is getting shown up here? Mangino acts like it was his own teammates.

Pendleton should dump the gatorade bucket on his famously corpulent coach.

That’s a penalty everywhere except Jordan-Hare.

Big Lebowski and Blazing Saddles referenced in one thread!!! NIIIIIICE!

EVERYONE DEFENDING MANGINA AND THE PENALTY IS A PUSSY.

YOU’RE SUPPOSED TO HUMILIATE YOUR OPPONENT, YOU WHINY FAGOTS. GOD DAMN LIBERAL COCK SUCKERS, AS MUCH AS YOU GET ASSFUCKED BY YOUR WIVES STRAP ONS YOU THINK YOU PUSSIES WOULD KNOW WHY HUMILIATION IS IMPORTANT.

AND THE FAG REF WHO’S GETTING PAID BY BOOKIES SHOULD BE FIRED FOR BEING A F A G

AND HIS WHOLE TEAM CELEBRATED, FUCK THAT FAT FUCK

Wow, Joshua Perry,

You just made my mama look like a freakin genius when she would exhort me to comport myself with dignity, because, in those immortal words: Class will out every time.

There ya’ go: home-trainin’ free of charge.

“If you’ve ever played football…”

I played a lot of football, but it was before the days of self-promoting, look-at-me buttheads. The coach makes a great point: The returner had help from 10 other guys on that play, but he wants all the attention focused on him.

The emotion argument is weak. Guys played with plenty of emotion in my day, but didn’t need this phony, self-centered crap.

Jesus kids…one would think that we were talking about banning celebrations all-together. For everyone who said that Mangino shouldn’t have gone off on the kid, its not like this is a new rule, the kid just cost the team a NEEDLESS penalty. Have enough fucking brains to not fuck up for something that CAN BE AVOIDED….

oh wait. These are college football players…I shouldn’t expect anything more than the minimum requirements for having complete thoughts.

#71

“didn’t need this phony, self-centered crap”

WTF are you talking about? He leaped into the endzone. Everyone who is so against this guy jumping into the endzone is a repressed mama’s boy who probably got the shit beat out them every day for 12 years straight. He jumped into the endzone, period. Where is all this “me-me-me” stuff everyone apparently saw? I think I blinked and missed it.

Jumping into the endzone was never a big deal until the sissies at the NCAA made it one. The supporters of sissified rules like that need to get on the first plane to Sweden or France and quit dragging this country down. I’ll bet you were the kids who played sports where score wasn’t allowed to be kept and everyone got a trophy at the end of the season that said “#1.” Look where these lame-ass rules got you. Pretty pathetic, huh?

To me personally, there is nothing more obnoxious than “acting like you’ve been there before” i.e., pretending you’re not happy because you are SO GOOD that touchdowns just aren’t a big deal to you. Such arrogance.

He shouldn’t have hurt his team with the penalty. That being said, he was excited at having done something wonderful, and dove into the end zone. A lot of you guys are projecting serious resentment at him for showing joy on the field. Guess he didn’t realize that college football is a multimillion dollar business