PAC-10 FAN WOULD LIKE YOU TO KNOW HE GETS VERY EXCITED, TOO.
We’ve seen some leaked responses to Pat Forde’s column insinuating that Pac-10 fans don’t care as much about football as SEC fans. Here’s two to contrast:
Dear Mr. Forde,
Oh, man, am I into my Washington Huskies. I mean, I get live with it. Stupid. Just ludicrously enthusiastic. See that pennant on the wall? I’ve got one just like it in my office. My co-workers look at it and just shake their heads sometimes. But I can’t hide my passion. It just flows from me like the waters of Puget Sound Lake Washington past beautiful Husky stadium.

That’s why I take offense at Pat Forde’s accusation that Pac-10 fans don’t care as much. I go to every game, no matter the weather. (And up here in the Northwest, believe me, we get more than our share of rain!) I wear my Huskies sweatshirt, my hat, and even a my Huskies jacket to some of the games. I’m just “one big purple nightmare!” as my wife and kids say, but it’s all to show my commitment to my team. You can get pretty hoarse yelling “Go, Huskies!” as much as I do during the games!
Football doesn’t rule my life, but it sure comes close. I wish you could just see that, Mr. Forde. If you come out to Husky Stadium for a game sometime, me and some loyal Husky fans would be more than happy to show you our love for our team in person.
Sincerely,
Jason Richardson, a.k.a. the “Purple Nightmare.
And letter number two:
Pat–
I strongly object to you implying that we Georgia fans were throwing “projectiles” at the Auburn team following the November 12th, 2005 complete and total nutpunching of the Georgia Bulldogs at beautiful, rat and pedophile hobo-free Sanford Stadium. (The same cannot be said of that rat anus of a shack Auburn calls home. Hobo pedophiles and rats galore pollute its filthy wings.)
As a longtime UGA season ticket holder and close confidante of innumerable Bulldog powerbrokers I can’t mention here, I can assert fully and truthfully that the characterization is both inaccurate and slanderous, and demand an instant retraction by you with a subsequent apology from ESPN.com

We were throwing very specific items, Mr Forde, not mere projectiles. The man next to me, fellow Sigma Chi and attorney Henry Dickson, threw a blasting cap we stole personally from a Georgia Department of Transportation work zone on the way to the game. My wife threw a full bottle of Jim Beam, which broke without effect over Kenny Iron’s exposed skull. Might I say that despite my undying, murderous hatred for the Auburn Tigers, the toughness of his skull is such that even an archenemy like myself must pay respect. That was almost Bulldawg tough of you, Kenny, and would have killed a lesser Auburn bastard-tiger-bird like Brad Lester or Cadillac Williams.
But your calumny also overlooks those of us who do not “throw,” but instead “launch carefully planned and preserved artifacts of football history” at our loathsome, flesh-eating heathen opponents. The man behind me, a delightful accountant for the firm of Porter, Keadle and Moore whose daddy played for the Bulldogs under Vince Dooley, threw an Olympic javelin once tossed by the Czech legend Jan Zelezny; the woman in front of me, a fine church-going lady of substance who would not want her name mentioned in this space, threw a jar containing a fetus preserved from shortly after the Hiroshima blast.
I’m proud to say that both of these hit Aubie the Tiger and killed him. Go Dawgs!
As for myself, I “threw” no mere “projectile.” I proudly hefted a brick baked in the kilns of Macon, Georgia toward the head of one large-eared Beelzebub himself, Tommy “I’ll leave Oxford in a pine box” Tuberville. Nothing special, you say? A fine Dawg fan such as myself would disagree, but only because I know that this brick, like 27 others I have stored in my basement, is made from both sacred Georgia clay and the mixed feces of (his name be praised) 1980 Heisman Winner and Best Running Back Ever Herschel Walker, a sample collected at the opening the Alpharetta D’Lites franchise restaurant in 1984 following my hero’s effortless, heroic run to the men’s room.
My brick went errant, however, and merely grazed the shoulder of an Alabama state trooper on the way down. I plan to atone for my miss this year, however, and redeem myself.
Oh, and shame on you for suggesting Pac-10 fans don’t care as much.
Go Dawgs,
Tucker Paulding IV
Attorney-at-law
Garland and Garland
UGA ‘74
You be the judge!–ed.









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Janus09 says:
I would agree that for an average middle of the season game that The Swamp would beat Autzen, but for a huge ooc game, the Civil War, or another big game then it’s Autzen.
Hayes list was for 1 big game and it also lists weather as a factor, which is a huge disadvantage for Autzen.
August 16th, 2007 at 4:41 pm
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Coop says:
OOC,
I gave you guys the ultimate compliment, although I sound Jewish (not that there is anything wrong with that, just a funny stereotype) when I say this, on the Fla/Aub segment when I revealed that I trusted SCar with my money.
Truthfully, betting on South Carolina in most games became a sure thing, post mid-October, as they beat the points against almost everyone they played, or at least that is how I remember it. I took SCar against the spread versus Ark, Fla, and maybe UT, and won them all.
Of course, I did not bet on you guys in the season finale out of principle, as I never bet against Clemson.
I didn’t bet on Clemson, either, which tells you all you need to know about what I thought going into that game. I think we were a 4 point favorite.
August 16th, 2007 at 4:43 pm
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Whohah says:
One last point: in the Bay, at least, we’ve got to deal with the Raiders taking all of our best crazies. Like, ACTUAL murderers.
Average Raiders fans > X > Average SEC fans > Average Pac-10 fans
August 16th, 2007 at 4:52 pm
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gerry dorsey says:
#96
quality over quantity every time my friend. come to dallas…..we have both.
fear vanderbilt stadium!!!
August 16th, 2007 at 4:54 pm
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Steve says:
This is a sad poor man’s ripoff of Onion humor. Fuckwit.
August 16th, 2007 at 4:58 pm
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Ryno says:
Ugh.
I come to the comment sections of EDSBS posts for three things: Links to half naked latina models, constant and overwhelming jokes about the size of opposing teams nut sacks and the occasional reference to a piece of literature I haven’t read yet but should in the near future.
Now its all a big contest to out snark the broads from the female sports blog (ladiesdotdotdot or whatever the hell it is).
I shall return in a month and hopefully the new season will bring about a change.
August 16th, 2007 at 5:06 pm
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Janus09 says:
#67
In 2000, the Pac-10 was all of 1-0 vs. the SEC…
So, in this century and also since 2000 as well the Pac-10 has a winning record vs. the SEC.
August 16th, 2007 at 5:13 pm
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Beergut says:
I call bullshit on the people claiming The Swamp is ‘always loud’.
I watched plenty of Florida games on television when was the head coach, and the stands had huge sections of fans masquerading as seats, and it was as quiet as a church.
This isn’t surprising, b/c a poor coach can suck the will to live out of even the most fanatical of fans. Dennis Franchione is living proof of this at A&M.
August 16th, 2007 at 5:17 pm
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Beergut says:
that should be **name redacted** was the head coach
August 16th, 2007 at 5:18 pm
110
Stacy Keibler Luvs Me says:
#102…Down here in LA, we seem to have the combo-USC-Oakland Raider fan all wrapped in one…
August 16th, 2007 at 5:29 pm
111
Stacy Keibler Luvs Me says:
#104 – It is impossible to outsnark the broads at ladiesdot..dot..dot, or almost any other one for that matter. Because no matter how good your jab is, they can always make fun of your johnson, and that is all she wrote…..as far as the snark wars….
August 16th, 2007 at 5:32 pm
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Brian says:
#98 – was the wise man a hobo?
August 16th, 2007 at 5:33 pm
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john says:
#43…. General Sherman was an SEC man (not so much a georgia fan though)… before being a union general he was the first president of LSU.
August 16th, 2007 at 5:47 pm
114
Stacy Keibler Luvs Me says:
#110 Brian: Nope that old man was Kathleen B. Blanco, guvnor of the State of Lousy-ana.
August 16th, 2007 at 5:48 pm
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fresh says:
#60-
Hammer, nail, and shit.
Been to Autzen. Extremely overrated. There are eight SEC stadiums louder, and there are ten that are louder when MSU and Ole Miss are playing well.
I’ve had “Oh, shit, that’s loud” moments in the swamp, death valley, at Auburn, Alabama, and Georgia. Oregon? Not so much.
August 16th, 2007 at 5:55 pm
116
MiseanAUFan says:
Great, Janus. Quoting Matt Hayes?
http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/?p=2072
Read Rule #11
August 16th, 2007 at 5:56 pm
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fresh says:
Janus…
2002, Mississippi State at Oregon, first game of the year, OOC game against a then-respected SEC foe, and Oregon was preseason top ten. Sellout crowd.
I heard the stories about it being the “loudest place on earth” and I’m here to tell you, it wasn’t even close. Cram your ass into the upper deck at Neyland or just below the student section at Tiger stadium and then come talk to me.
The little duck calls were cute, though.
August 16th, 2007 at 6:00 pm
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Janus09 says:
That Matt Hayes is a dick?
I am not sure his mannerisms apply to him actually going to all these stadiums.
August 16th, 2007 at 6:01 pm
119
CouchBurnin'Girl says:
Oregon – 2.6 per 100k (second only to West Fuckin Virginia…really?)
Indeed. We love us some titties.
August 16th, 2007 at 6:04 pm
120
Janus09 says:
#114
In their defense it wasn’t a close game.
Miss St. -13 Oregon -36.
I have already conceded that on an average day the top tier SEC stadiums are louder. But Autzen for a big game beats them all. The stadiums design allows for more potential noise.
August 16th, 2007 at 6:09 pm
121
Brewster Crew says:
#94, cue the Bossa Nova.
Come on, Janus. It was funny for a little bit, but it’s getting sad.
August 16th, 2007 at 6:11 pm
122
Janus09 says:
#118
You’re right, it’s such an outlandish position that Autzen stadium is really loud.
You don’t follow college football much do you?
August 16th, 2007 at 6:23 pm
123
fife in pdx says:
@116
Show us yours
August 16th, 2007 at 6:25 pm
124
bradluen says:
I take strong offense to #33.
We Pac-10 fans know better than to cellar our pinots for too long. Cabernet, that’s another story.
August 16th, 2007 at 6:34 pm
125
Domer Guy says:
#97:
Fuck yes, A-Crop love on EDSBS! The best damn steak & titties location in the land! I was actually there a few nights ago, and it impresses me more and more every time.
August 16th, 2007 at 6:35 pm
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Brewster Crew says:
#119,
Nope. I come here for the Jai Alai.
August 16th, 2007 at 6:41 pm
127
doug in sf says:
#18. You suck, pdx. You’re supposed to either make a witty, self-deprecating remark about us Pac-10 fans or simply defend us. Instead you chose to rank on Cal and Tedford. Well, f**k you, he’s staying! STAYING I tell you.
As for the actual thread topic…..I kind of like the idea of getting woozy on some white, having some sourdough and cheese, getting “appropriately” excited about the team and the game, and then having the team beat the crap out of an opponent whose fans care a lot more. Makes my day, actually. Hope it happens labor day weekend.
August 16th, 2007 at 6:56 pm
128
Warthen says:
I could care less about the ‘loudest stadium’ argument and will recognize Autzen as being just as loud as any in the SEC, but the claim that the SEC isn’t willing to travel should be dropped at this point.
Georgia will be heading to Arizona State, Oregon and Colorado soon. We had Oregon State back out on us. We’re also going to Louisville which was scheduled back when they were still in Conf USA.
UT#2’s heading to Cal this year and made a recent trip to ND. They’ll be heading to Nebraska, Oklahoma, UCLA, and Oregon in the future.
Bama made recent trips to UCLA and Oklahoma, and will be heading to Penn State in the future.
All of those are off the top of my head along with a quick nationalchamps.net search of UT#2’s future schedule. Miss State, Ole Miss, LSU, and Arkansas are some other teams that have been willing to mix it up with big OOC teams lately and who have some scheduled in the future right now if I’m not mistaken.
The old ‘the SEC never plays anyone OOC’ (which ignored traditional rivals played late in the year like FSU, GTU, and Clemson) just doesn’t hold water any more.
August 16th, 2007 at 6:58 pm
129
MiseanAUFan says:
#122, when will the ’05’s be peaking (or have they)?
Me SEC fan. Me like bourbon and beer. ME no sommelier.
August 16th, 2007 at 6:58 pm
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doug in sf says:
#126 – UT has always been the exception to the scheduling rule.
#127 – see relative alcohol content of wine and beer. Us? We usually do wine before and beer after, and the hard stuff at the donor luncheons, where it’s free
August 16th, 2007 at 7:00 pm
131
Stacy Keibler Luvs Me says:
# 126 – Warthen: You write: “The old ‘the SEC never plays anyone OOC’ (which ignored traditional rivals played late in the year like FSU, GTU, and Clemson) just doesn’t hold water any more.”
You are myopically wrong, little man. Here is the SEC’s OOC schedule. I think each team in the SEC is trying to beat each other regarding how many minnows can be scheduled per season.
SEC East
Florida – Western Kentucky, Troy, Florida Atlantic, Florida St.
Georgia – Oklahoma St., Western Carolina, Troy, @ Georgia Tech
Kentucky – Eastern Kentucky, Kent St., Louisville, Florida Atlantic
South Carolina – La. – Lafayette, S. Carolina St., @ North Carolina, Clemson
Tennessee – @ California, Southern Miss, Arkansas St., La.-Lafayette
Vanderbilt – Richmond. Eastern Michigan, Miami (OH), Wake Forest
SEC West
Alabama – Western Carolina, Florida St., Houston, La.-Monroe
Arkansas – Troy, North Texas, Tenn.- Chattanooga, Florida International
Auburn – Kansas St., S. Florida, New Mexico St., Tennessee Tech
LSU – Virginia Tech, Middle Tennessee, @ Tulane, La. Tech
Mississippi St. – @ Tulane, Gardner-Webb, UAB, @ West
Virginia
Mississippi – @ Memphis, Missouri, La. Tech, Northwestern St.
August 16th, 2007 at 7:17 pm
132
Warthen says:
The Pac 10 is playing 10 BCS teams out of conference this year: Syracuse, Colorado, Nebraska, Michigan, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Tennessee, and Notre Dame 3 times.
The SEC is playing FSU twice, UNC, Virginia Tech, Missouri, Oklahoma State, Georgia Tech, Clemson, Louisville, Cal, Kansas State,South Florida, and West Fuckin Virginia this year.
The SEC is playing BCS games at relatively the same rate as the Pac10 even when accounting for larger league size.
I’ll admit that the Pac10 has tougher OOC schedules, but the idea that the SEC won’t play BCS teams OOC is undeniably false.
August 16th, 2007 at 7:55 pm
133
NewAZTiger says:
Bragging about how loud your crowd is when the stadium has a fucking sound-reflecting roof is like bragging about how your dick can stay hard for 3 hours after you pump it up with your ballsack air bladder.
I challenge your wine-tasting ass to come to the AU-UF game this year and you’ll hear loud. You’ll feel loud. It will be so loud there that you will become temporarily incontinent of bowel and bladder.
August 16th, 2007 at 8:18 pm
134
Ryno says:
AMERICA! FUCK YEAH!
August 16th, 2007 at 8:22 pm
135
NewAZTiger says:
Stacy Keibler, have you looked who the teams play in CONFERENCE?
There are 8 coaches in the SEC that have won their division (Saban, Nutt, Tuberville, Miles, Fulmer, Spurrier, Meyer, Richt).
There are 8 coaches in the SEC that have won 10 games.
(Saban, Nutt, Tuberville, Miles, Fulmer, Spurrier, Richt, Meyer)
There are 7 coaches in the SEC that have won 10 games more than once. (Saban, Nutt, Tuberville, Miles, Fulmer, Spurrier, Richt,)
There are 7 coaches in the SEC that have won 11 games in a season. (Saban, Tuberville, Miles, Fulmer, Spurrier, Richt Meyer)
There are 6 coaches in the SEC that have won 11 games more than once. (Saban, Tuberville, Miles, Fulmer, Spurrier, Richt)
There are 6 coaches in the SEC that have won 12 games (Saban, Tuberville, Fulmer, Spurrier, Meyer, Richt)
There are 2 coaches in the SEC that have won 12 games more than once (Fulmer, Spurrer)
There are 6 coaches in the SEC that have won the SEC outright. (Saban, Tuberville, Fulmer, Spurrier, Meyer, Richt)
There are 6 coaches in the SEC that have won BCS games (Saban, Tuberville, Fulmer, Spurrier, Meyer, Richt)
Our bye weeks are tougher than most other conferences in-conference games. So, it’s nice to pick on the sisters of the poor every now and again.
You’re just jealous of the SEC because our teams are better, our stadiums are louder, our women are hotter, and our beer is colder. And, your women are jealous of us because if we go commando, it hurts.
August 16th, 2007 at 8:35 pm
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fife in pdx says:
@125
“STAYING I tell you.”
bullshit, you guys will never get the facilities/stadium built to keep him (re: hippies chaining themselves to redwoods where the proposed site is see:
http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20070111/a_treesitters11.art.htm
plus, YOURE CAL you dont care about football. you couldnt fill memorial til jeff showed up, if belotti gets axed/leaves you best believe that the ducks will come calling and be willing to pay ANYTHING to get ol jeffy back up developing QBs.
August 16th, 2007 at 10:13 pm
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Bay Area Bear says:
@ 134
We will win. And Tedford is staying!
http://myspace.com/calmemorialstadium
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?callfb07
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=222819008&blogID=295425700
August 16th, 2007 at 10:37 pm
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Janus09 says:
The SEC travelling argument is now half wrong.
Some of the SEC teams have manned up in a big way. Tennessee and especially Georgia i’m lookin at you guys.
However, most are still weak as hell.
So when I say the SEC won’t travel I am excluding 2 or 3 teams, OK?
August 16th, 2007 at 10:59 pm
139
Meg says:
#40- the true joke is not the trust fund. It is a little thing called corporate recruiting. You may be making the same amount of money, but you likely majored in some hard as shit, cutthroat discipline to get that interview. The Ivy League grad majored in religion, was drunk half the week, and went into the interview without knowing what IPO signifies.
August 16th, 2007 at 11:38 pm
140
Anonymous IV says:
#137, that is rather true. One of my friend’s sisters is attending Yale for heer PhD and worked hard to be accepted, but there are a large amount of legacy students that fit what you described. My PhD advisor’s son attends MIT and calls most of the students at Harvard a bunch of dumbasses for the exact same reason.
August 17th, 2007 at 5:34 am
141
Horn of Plenty says:
You know, five years before old Tucker Paulding IV, Attorney-at-law, was gradumacating from UGA, we really, actually were bulldozing hippies out of trees to expand the stadium here in Texas.
Thirty-five years from now, maybe the board short crowd will finally catch up to Vince Young, too.
August 17th, 2007 at 6:22 am
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Troy in Columbus says:
#68
Matt Hayes has poor judgement for even considering Doak Campbell for that list. He also must have mind numbing fear of the color green.
Jordan-Hare should be in the top five, top three if it’s a night game. When that damn bird starts flying around the field that is one of the loudest and best moments in college football.
August 17th, 2007 at 6:55 am
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Biggus Rickus says:
Holy fuckballs, you guys take your stadium rankings seriously. In my opinion, the toughness of a location is entirely dependent on the quality of the team. Miami didn’t win 57 straight home games because people were scared of the Orange Bowl.
August 17th, 2007 at 7:54 am
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Brewster Crew says:
#141,
Some people take stadium rankings seriously. It’s a matter of pride for them.
I, however, am a Minnesota fan. I liked having the section to myself.
August 17th, 2007 at 8:08 am
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fresh says:
#118
Sure, it wasn’t a close game. But it was 0-0 at the kickoff. The crowd gave it all they had then. Some ducks next to us were asking us what we thought at the kickoff, expecting us to be in awe of the decible level, and I’m telling you, it’s not even close. I mean, it’s loud, but it’s not Tiger Stadium, or even close.
As for the OOC schedule arguments, some SEC schools play terrible schedules, like Ole Miss. A lot of SEC teams have natural opponents that are up and down (Georgia Tech for UGA, Clemson for SC, FSU for Florida, etc). And some schools really step it up, like UT picking up California. In the last decade, Mississippi State has played home-and-homes with Oregon, BYU, Oklahoma State, and West Virginia. All of this despite the in-conference schedule, which is more brutal than anyone in any other conference has to endure.
August 17th, 2007 at 8:11 am
146
bhors says:
Its Friday. Quit having a pissing contest over who is louder by one or two spots, and get O. Swindle to get some fucking light Brown Bunda up pronto.
August 17th, 2007 at 8:16 am
147
Biggus Rickus says:
#142 As a UGA fan I appreciate pride in one’s stadium. Sanford is an absolutely beautiful place to see a game. But I’ve noticed that crowd noise has next to zero effect on the outcome of a game. It was plenty loud in ‘05 when Auburn hit a post pattern on 4th and 10 to set up their game winning field goal. All the crowd noise in the world couldn’t stop Tennessee from outscoring us 44-9 after we’d jumped out to a 24-7 lead last year. Nobody found “The Swamp” all that tough until Spurrier got there. In short, the stadium factor is bullshit.
August 17th, 2007 at 8:19 am
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HFS says:
#136 (Janus09): So what you’re saying is, you’re going to believe what you want to believe, facts be damned?
Auburn got left out of this discussion, too: recent home-and-homes with USC, GT, Syracuse and upcoming with West Virginia & Clemson, with another that should be announced shortly (Texas A&M maybe).
#21 (DC Trojan) – I don’t personally know any Auburn fan that thinks that way. I only see it online, which puts the odds at 50% that it’s actually a bama fan. But equally absurd is comments like in #32 (”It wouldn’t have been 55-19…more like 40-23″). This is the same attitude that led so many USC fans to discuss how much they would beat Texas by in 2005, not if. USC/Auburn 2004 was too close to call going in and could have gone either way, much like the Rose Bowl against UT. The only way to know is to play the game. Which, of course, didn’t happen, because USC/Oklahoma was “the game everybody wanted to see” ($1 to Herbstreit), even though most people turned it off in the 2nd quarter.
August 17th, 2007 at 8:30 am
149
Run Up The Score says:
We interrupt this monkeys-at-the-zoo poop flinging to note that Penn State has taken the lead in the Fulmer Cup with a pair of underage drinking citations.
http://www.statecollege.com/news/local/article.php?cat=4&id=15354
Suck on that, [CRIMINAL CHARGES REDACTED]!
August 17th, 2007 at 8:41 am
150
Freehawk says:
Herschel Walker did not win the Heisman in 1980. George (His Name Be Praised) Rogers did.
I never met him, but he did pee in my fraternity house once.
August 17th, 2007 at 8:56 am