PAC-10 FAN WOULD LIKE YOU TO KNOW HE GETS VERY EXCITED, TOO.
We’ve seen some leaked responses to Pat Forde’s column insinuating that Pac-10 fans don’t care as much about football as SEC fans. Here’s two to contrast:
Dear Mr. Forde,
Oh, man, am I into my Washington Huskies. I mean, I get live with it. Stupid. Just ludicrously enthusiastic. See that pennant on the wall? I’ve got one just like it in my office. My co-workers look at it and just shake their heads sometimes. But I can’t hide my passion. It just flows from me like the waters of Puget Sound Lake Washington past beautiful Husky stadium.

That’s why I take offense at Pat Forde’s accusation that Pac-10 fans don’t care as much. I go to every game, no matter the weather. (And up here in the Northwest, believe me, we get more than our share of rain!) I wear my Huskies sweatshirt, my hat, and even a my Huskies jacket to some of the games. I’m just “one big purple nightmare!” as my wife and kids say, but it’s all to show my commitment to my team. You can get pretty hoarse yelling “Go, Huskies!” as much as I do during the games!
Football doesn’t rule my life, but it sure comes close. I wish you could just see that, Mr. Forde. If you come out to Husky Stadium for a game sometime, me and some loyal Husky fans would be more than happy to show you our love for our team in person.
Sincerely,
Jason Richardson, a.k.a. the “Purple Nightmare.
And letter number two:
Pat–
I strongly object to you implying that we Georgia fans were throwing “projectiles” at the Auburn team following the November 12th, 2005 complete and total nutpunching of the Georgia Bulldogs at beautiful, rat and pedophile hobo-free Sanford Stadium. (The same cannot be said of that rat anus of a shack Auburn calls home. Hobo pedophiles and rats galore pollute its filthy wings.)
As a longtime UGA season ticket holder and close confidante of innumerable Bulldog powerbrokers I can’t mention here, I can assert fully and truthfully that the characterization is both inaccurate and slanderous, and demand an instant retraction by you with a subsequent apology from ESPN.com

We were throwing very specific items, Mr Forde, not mere projectiles. The man next to me, fellow Sigma Chi and attorney Henry Dickson, threw a blasting cap we stole personally from a Georgia Department of Transportation work zone on the way to the game. My wife threw a full bottle of Jim Beam, which broke without effect over Kenny Iron’s exposed skull. Might I say that despite my undying, murderous hatred for the Auburn Tigers, the toughness of his skull is such that even an archenemy like myself must pay respect. That was almost Bulldawg tough of you, Kenny, and would have killed a lesser Auburn bastard-tiger-bird like Brad Lester or Cadillac Williams.
But your calumny also overlooks those of us who do not “throw,” but instead “launch carefully planned and preserved artifacts of football history” at our loathsome, flesh-eating heathen opponents. The man behind me, a delightful accountant for the firm of Porter, Keadle and Moore whose daddy played for the Bulldogs under Vince Dooley, threw an Olympic javelin once tossed by the Czech legend Jan Zelezny; the woman in front of me, a fine church-going lady of substance who would not want her name mentioned in this space, threw a jar containing a fetus preserved from shortly after the Hiroshima blast.
I’m proud to say that both of these hit Aubie the Tiger and killed him. Go Dawgs!
As for myself, I “threw” no mere “projectile.” I proudly hefted a brick baked in the kilns of Macon, Georgia toward the head of one large-eared Beelzebub himself, Tommy “I’ll leave Oxford in a pine box” Tuberville. Nothing special, you say? A fine Dawg fan such as myself would disagree, but only because I know that this brick, like 27 others I have stored in my basement, is made from both sacred Georgia clay and the mixed feces of (his name be praised) 1980 Heisman Winner and Best Running Back Ever Herschel Walker, a sample collected at the opening the Alpharetta D’Lites franchise restaurant in 1984 following my hero’s effortless, heroic run to the men’s room.
My brick went errant, however, and merely grazed the shoulder of an Alabama state trooper on the way down. I plan to atone for my miss this year, however, and redeem myself.
Oh, and shame on you for suggesting Pac-10 fans don’t care as much.
Go Dawgs,
Tucker Paulding IV
Attorney-at-law
Garland and Garland
UGA ‘74
You be the judge!–ed.









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Janus09 says:
#47
My apologies, the Forde article itself was on the superiority of the conferences.
August 16th, 2007 at 3:36 pm
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Willet says:
My sister went to Oregon. Though a good venue Autzen does not sniff the top ten.
August 16th, 2007 at 3:37 pm
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Orson Swindle says:
Heard mixed reviews on Autzen’s volume. It likely depends on the game, though. The Swamp for Western Kentucky will be relaxed and merely loud. For Tennessee, it will be like riding in the trunk of a car with a busted muffler for four hours.
August 16th, 2007 at 3:39 pm
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Allahver Fist says:
PAC-10 Coaching
SEC Coaching
August 16th, 2007 at 3:40 pm
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Janus09 says:
Lloyd Carr “it’s the loudest stadium I’ve ever been in.”
And in case you doubt the aging Mr. Carr’s hearing…
Michigan Daily Mail “Autzen’s 59,000 strong make the ‘Big House’ collectively sound like a pathetic wimper. It’s louder than ‘The Swamp’ at Florida, ‘The Shoe’ in Columbus and ‘Death Valley’ at Louisiana State.”
I could quote Lee Corso to, but I don’t want to hurt my argument.
August 16th, 2007 at 3:41 pm
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Out of Conference says:
#48 – feel free to pick and choose the years that support your argument. I certainly didn’t mean to offend you with my Prius comment. Sorry, dude.
August 16th, 2007 at 3:41 pm
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Boston Frog says:
No. 38, I’ve just learned to embrace the hysteria and sit back and laugh at it. Boston isn’t really such a bad place in a lot of ways; if it weren’t for winter and Bostonians, it would be downright pleasant.
August 16th, 2007 at 3:44 pm
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Janus09 says:
#48
This century is picking your years??
Orson
The volume does change of course depending on the game but not much more than most other stadiums. It’s blaring for Oregon St, Washington, and big ooc games.
August 16th, 2007 at 3:47 pm
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Willet says:
#54-big ten stadii=not very loud. Not a good barometer
There is no comparison to the swamp
August 16th, 2007 at 3:47 pm
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Billy in Baton Rouge says:
Janus
Autzen can claim to be the loudest when it registers as a FUCKING EARTHQUAKE.
With Love
LSU fans
August 16th, 2007 at 3:48 pm
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Unhappy Monkey says:
54 – Michigan has never played LSU, much less been to Tiger Stadium. Paraphrasing a stolen line: the difference between Auzen Stadium and Tiger Stadium (The Swamp, Neyland Stadium, etc.) is the diference between shooting a bullet and throwing it.
August 16th, 2007 at 3:51 pm
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tzubear says:
Boston frog,
It’s mainly the Bostonians that make it unlivable. Did you happen to see the Phoenix’s 27 bad traits of Boston last year? Some of their critique is spot on. Yet their readers will chuckle at Boston’s endearing problems and do nothing.
August 16th, 2007 at 3:52 pm
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Pants McPants says:
Re #54- That’s not the Oregon fans making Autzen so loud, just the players uniforms…
August 16th, 2007 at 3:52 pm
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Out of Conference says:
#54 – are you related to tOSUbuckeyes by any chance?
By the way, the Big House is known for not being loud – so Lloyd saying Autzen is loud is not exactly a ringing endorsement.
Down in front is not a cheer
August 16th, 2007 at 3:52 pm
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Out of Conference says:
Yeah – me and HTML aren’t the best of friends… here was my link the old fashioned way-
http://michiganzone.blogspot.com/2006/08/make-big-house-loud_24.html
August 16th, 2007 at 3:54 pm
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Boston Frog says:
tzubear, I didn’t see that list, but I could probably come up with 2700. No. 1, a complete lack of street signs. Hey, you just have to be a local…
Fortunately most of my friends are transplants, and my fiancee, though born in Rhode Island, cleansed herself by living in Louisiana and Kansas for years growing up. (Plus, her parents aren’t New Englanders, which is very important.) I married a Bostonian once upon a time–I ain’t doin’ that again.
August 16th, 2007 at 3:57 pm
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TigerNacho says:
I would sell my children to gypsies to see LSU play USC at the end of this year. Rabid gypsies. With poor parenting skills.
August 16th, 2007 at 3:58 pm
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Unhappy Monkey says:
57 – the century started 2001, not 2000.
August 16th, 2007 at 4:00 pm
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Janus09 says:
From Matt Hayes…an actual sportswriter who has been to all these venues.
Most intimidating places to play…
1. Autzen Stadium, Oregon
2. Ben Hill Griffin Stadium, Florida
3. Kyle Field, Texas A&M
4. Tiger Stadium, LSU
5. Doak Campbell Stadium, Florida State
6. Ohio Stadium, Ohio State
7. Lane Stadium, Virginia Tech
8. Jordan-Hare Stadium, Auburn
9. Notre Dame Stadium, Notre Dame
10. Memorial Stadium, Nebraska
Trust me that Oregon is the exception in the Pac-10.
But I am sure you are a huge expert who has also been to all these places…
August 16th, 2007 at 4:03 pm
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Out of Conference says:
Where’s Coop, Chili, ow Willy Mac at with the ESPN frameshot/quote of Clemson’s Memorial Stadium reaching some freakish high decbel level… of course they don’t tell you the mike was placed about 3″ from Brad Scott while he was munching on some tater chips while thinking about getting a plate of hog ass and rice from Mutt’s.
August 16th, 2007 at 4:05 pm
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Out of Conference says:
Again, I think Pants McPants’ (62) comment explains the top seeding there.
August 16th, 2007 at 4:08 pm
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King Harvest says:
#1,#3,#5, and probably #9 do not deserve to be on that list.
August 16th, 2007 at 4:09 pm
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Doug says:
If Matt Hayes told me it was going to be 100 degrees in Birmingham tomorrow, I’d start pulling all my winter coats out of the closet.
August 16th, 2007 at 4:10 pm
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Chas says:
#68
Matt Hayes has Doak as the 5th toughest place to play in the NCAA? Wow! Just imagine how tough of a stadium it would be if they could actually sell out their games.
http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070803/SPORTS/708030350/1002/SPORTS
August 16th, 2007 at 4:14 pm
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Janus09 says:
#71
Almost all non-SEC stadiums. Shocking. And I am sure you’ve been to all these just like the writer?
August 16th, 2007 at 4:15 pm
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Whohah says:
#59: We have ACTUAL earthquakes ’round these parts — no need to fake ‘em.
Even as a hopeless Cal homer, I can still concur there is some truth to Forde’s column. Your average SEC fan is, on the whole, more tied into college football than your average Pac-10 fan. The smaller cities of the South and long-time regional rivalries parallel academics pretty easily — and without major sports programs (save Atlanta and Nawlins), college football IS IT.
However, that being said, the most violent and crazed amongst us can match any of the nutjobs you’ve got south of the Mason-Dixon. I’ve seen grown men weeping inconsolably after a big loss, assaults on another team’s fans and players — I even once heard a Cal student screaming that he would rape an older BYU alum’s many wives, mere inches away from his face.
I think the fact that Pac-10 fans are actually worked up enough about the article to try and disprove it should show that there’s some semblance of “Southern passion” in our ranks.
August 16th, 2007 at 4:15 pm
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fife in pdx says:
#53
been to two games @ autzen. first one was after the quacks beat michigan and were playing the dynasty known as the washington state cougars. had two high school friends playin for the coogs so i got tix. never been to a louder stadium for a few as it sits, however, wsu scored like 21 in the first quarter, never heard a more deafening silence.
the other was the uw game last year, wasnt that loud cause both teams sucked, uw just sucked more.
August 16th, 2007 at 4:16 pm
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Janus09 says:
#75
Exactly, outmatched as a whole in fervor with a minor exception here and there.
August 16th, 2007 at 4:17 pm
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Jorgé the Bass Player says:
#68-Matt Who?
While I’ve only attended games at the ‘Shoe, I think I can say our #6 spot on the list is generous. Lots of stuffy old assholes sitting on their hands telling me to sit down while I’m trying to cheer for my team.
Southern folks I’ve met put their money on The Swamp. While I hate to admit it, how can I argue with them? The games on TV sound like people cheering their approval of cocaine and free lap dances.
August 16th, 2007 at 4:17 pm
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Stacy Keibler Luvs Me says:
Pac 10 Homer vs SEC Mouths of the South Dept:
Even though USC is my team, I gotta admit that the SEC has more lunatic fanatics than the Pac 10. From Farty Forde’s column:
“SEC averaged 75,706 fans per home game last year and the Pac-10 averaged 56,314. ” From my experience at USC games, it seems that many ladies are there for the social aspects, such as drinking large amounts of liquor and gossiping and not really all of that into the game until the bitter end – IF the game is close, whereas, I am guessing SEC fans, even the ladies, actually watch the game closely throughout.
Also, top to bottom the SEC is a little stronger than the Pac 10 – - BUTTTT – > not by much. Sort of like saying that Shakira’s butt is better than Beyonce’s butt.
Shakira shakes it better but not by that much.
August 16th, 2007 at 4:20 pm
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Coop says:
Yes, Chris Rix said that Death Valley was the loudest place he ever played when we kicked their ass his junior year, 2003. I referenced his class at FSU and the year itself for the following reasons:
Given that it was his JUNIOR year, Mr. Rix visited the Swamp on one occasion prior to visiting Death Valley.
2003 was the last time we visited Cola while Lou Holtz was coaching the Gamecocks. Maybe “someone” who reads EDSBS remembers that game?
August 16th, 2007 at 4:20 pm
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Willet says:
Been to 7/10 #1, #5, #7 are not comparable. Have not been to 3, 9, 10 but have seen numerous Domer’s in awe after seeing a game in the Swamp. BTW Matt Hayes is a douchebag.
August 16th, 2007 at 4:21 pm
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Ltrain says:
Look, we understand Autzen gets loud, maybe even comprable to the top SEC venues on a pound for pound basis. But that Hayes does not help your point. Doak-crap was intimidating because of the team on the sidelines and the chop, it doesn’t sniff the top 10 in loud. Jordan Hare is much louder, and I hate Auburn. Notre Dame? I was there for a USC game for crying out loud; intimidating, yes. loud, no. (yes, you could hear me crying)….
The SEC venues are where audibles go to die.
August 16th, 2007 at 4:22 pm
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Janus09 says:
#78
Matt Hayes has covered college football in Florida since 1990.
But I am sure a random SEC fan knows more than him anyways. Those guys know everything about stuff they know little about.
August 16th, 2007 at 4:22 pm
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Orson Swindle says:
The games on TV sound like people cheering their approval of cocaine and free lap dances.
No lap dance is ever truly free.
August 16th, 2007 at 4:22 pm
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tzubear says:
it depends on if you have a conscience swindle.
August 16th, 2007 at 4:26 pm
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Chas says:
“No lap dance is ever truly free.”
Quoted for Truth. Not even going to abbreviate it, because this might be the truest statement ever uttered on this board; or at the very least, the truthiest.
August 16th, 2007 at 4:27 pm
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Stephen says:
#74 almost all non SEC stadiums yes but there are more SEC stadiums than any other single conference.
When Neyland and Samford Stadium don’t make the list, I think we can claim good depth. I can’t believe I’m going to say this but I was impressed by Alabama’s stadium with the new edition. For the first time ever, it got loud.
August 16th, 2007 at 4:27 pm
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EZ says:
PAC 10 fans see the world as it should be and ask, “Why not?”
SEC fans see the world as it is and ask, “Suck it, fag.”
August 16th, 2007 at 4:27 pm
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Unhappy Monkey says:
Janus – You left out what Hayes was ranking:
“the 10 most intimidating stadiums for one game and one game only.”
At any rate you have one subjective data point. There are literally dozens of subjective opinions, many by Pac10 players and coahces, that Tiger Stadium is the worst place to play (one example, see this site http://www.tigerstadium.com/quotes/lsu3.swf)
Subjective aside, please cite one objective data point such as registering on the richter scale.
August 16th, 2007 at 4:28 pm
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Billy in Baton Rouge says:
#75 Yes we know you have regular ones. The point is our stadium gets loud enough to create them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthquake_Game
August 16th, 2007 at 4:28 pm
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Janus09 says:
If you’ve been to Autzen and some of the others on the list I respect your opinion, but you were likely at a game that the crowd wasn’t that pumped for…It happens, especially when the team underperforms, such as last year.
Autzen is also somewhat designed to trap the sound in, giving it an advantage. Very similar in design to the Seahawks stadium, which is pretty much the loudest in the NFL.
August 16th, 2007 at 4:28 pm
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Palouse says:
Dennis Erickson doesn’t have time for this shit.
Arguments about which stadium is louder is like winning the special Olympics. Even if you win, you’re still a retard.
August 16th, 2007 at 4:31 pm
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King Harvest says:
Janus @ #74
No I have not however, I have been to #’s 2,3,4,5,8, & 9.
Kyle was loud but nowhere close to 2,4, or 8.
Doak is just a bunch of people, with a common interest, at the same place.
Although I have never been there, I can verify #7 & #10.
August 16th, 2007 at 4:32 pm
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Out of Conference says:
But the lap dance is so much better when the stripper is crying.
Coop – yes, I remember, WB was freaking quiet except for the one Orange corner.
August 16th, 2007 at 4:32 pm
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Chas says:
#91,
I think that’s the whole point. The Swamp, for example, is always loud. Always. Not just against Tennessee or FSU. Not just when we’re a championship team. Even when [name redacted] was the coach, and we were mired in mediocrity, it sounded like a 747 taking off during a rock concert. The same can be said for most of the rest of the SEC. Can the same be said for Autzen?
August 16th, 2007 at 4:34 pm
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Janus09 says:
#87
Nobody is saying that the SEC doesn’t rank highest in this as a conference. Of course they do.
And on the more entertaining subject of strip clubs, finally I can bring out some definitive hard proof…
Per Capita
Portland – 7.74 per 100k (highest in the country)
Oregon – 2.6 per 100k (second only to West Fuckin Virginia…really?)
August 16th, 2007 at 4:35 pm
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tzubear says:
A steak at the acropolis sounds good right now.
August 16th, 2007 at 4:37 pm
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Unhappy Monkey says:
“No lap dance is ever truly free.”
I wise man in New Orleans told me once that “Those things that are free? Sometimes they cost the most.”
August 16th, 2007 at 4:38 pm
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Out of Conference says:
The Swamp – UF – SC game 2006
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBfXwjvCdyU
August 16th, 2007 at 4:39 pm