PAC-10 FAN WOULD LIKE YOU TO KNOW HE GETS VERY EXCITED, TOO.

as a PX fan there is no denying that the SEC fans are more “passionate” as described by Mr. Paulding’s letter above.

congrats, here is your trophy

Damned right.

Pac 10 fans care enough to buy tickets from scalpers.

SEC fans care enough to scalp people, for tickets.

You can’t argue with Southern Football’s preeminence, which I would attribute to the fact that the best weather of the year is in the Fall down south.

Pac-10 fans drive like this. SEC fans drive like this.*

*sorry

Pac 10 fans be talkin’ like, “WAH WAH WAH WAH WAH’” ’n shit. And SEC fans be like, “WOOOO GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY” ’n shit.

Damn you Holly for making the joke I came here to make.

Fucking white people always be doing shit like that.

WVU fans throw garbage cans at coaches and set shit on fire…when they win. Of course, they also have unruly beards and don coon-skin hats, so maybe it’s just that their West Virginians rather than passionate.

In the Pac-10 we typically pause from our smoked salmon on crackers to appreciate a finely executed pass play which required little to no contact between opposing teams.

My impression is that SEC fans won’t be satisfied until Nick Saban (to choose a random example) hoists aloft Steve Spurrier’s head in front of an orgiastic crowd to signal the conclusion of a three-day battle royale involving teams, mascots, and fans that used to be in the Army.

Am I in the ballpark?

WVU fans throw garbage cans at coaches and set shit on fire…when they win. Of course, they also have unruly beards and don coon-skin hats, so maybe it’s just that they’re West Virginians rather than passionate.

Saban: ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?!?!?!?

Auburn and Georgia played in Athens in 2005, and, naturally, Auburn in ’04 and ’06.

So, is the stereotypical attorney, nice work by the way, referring to Sanford Stadium as a rat anus of a shack?

Speaking as the lone SEC fan in an office full of Cal, USC, UCLA, and Notre Dame homers….That first letter is so correct it’s actually circled satire and come back ’round to nonfiction.

Swindle, Saban would never be captured. C’mon. He’s the scary grizzled dude who owns the gladiators in this scenario.

The difference is that if Pac-10 fans were to form an unruly mob, a closer look at the flaming torches would reveal that they were tiki lamps from the back patio.

Coop—corrected. And improved, we think, with the mention of both rat anus and hobo pedophiles.

Saban: The day I set foot on that field in Tuscaloosa, I never wished more that there was a god in heaven, and I was never more certain that they wasn’t.

I am in an office full of CPA’s that went to small dipshit private collages (Mount Vernon and Ohio Northern woohoo!!!) and they dont understand the absolute passion (see love and hate) of which I display for alma mater tOSU. They go around all day in their ONU coats, and talk of “your tuition was only $30,000, well, mine was $37,000 and that was back in 1998” while I just want to fucking slap them in the head with a sock full of quarters for being such stuck up, asshole, pricks, that think they are better (they may be) than me.

Wooo. I went on a rant there. What happened, I blacked out.

Cal isnt a football school and will never be a football school. Tedford will never get a new stadium built (as is required by his contract) so he’ll bolt.

i dunno why forde brings up a cal football loss, a loss for cal is a republican presidential win.

BHors: The solution to that, as we all know, is for you to offer to provide a cooler full of beer at the next company outing. Of course, give them the traditional OSU cooler.

Tedford to Tennessee or MSU following the inevitable firings (and eventual kooky odd couple-style sitcom launch) of Croom and Fulmer? Any thoughts?

The best part of the comments after Forde’s column is that the first one is from some Barner claiming that Tub’s Scrubs would have annihilated SC in the 2004 Orange Bowl, no questions asked. It would have been a better game, no question, but come on.

bhors, I feel ya. I’ve worked with a bunch of Brandeis and Bentley (what—that dude from the Jeffersons has a college?) grads up here for years. Even the BC grads who claim to be “big fans” here can’t even name the team’s starting quarterback. Beyond that, everybody here is obsessed with the Red Sox. Land of tiny colleges + pro sports town = I spent a lot of time on CFB message boards…

Is that Edward Said?

Honestly, I would sell my house right now to get Tedford down to NashVegas to straighten out my boys, but it’s never going to happen. I think the ship has sailed on “Tedford-as-next-Kirk-Ferentz-NFL-coach-in-waiting,” but unless the Bears just utterly destroy Tennessee (please God please God please God please God) I can’t see folks in Knoxville wanting a coach whose teams they’ve plowed under twice.

Now, Tedford to Florida State to replace Coach Dadgummit? That I could see…and the FL/FLST game might be the first game to 200 points.

Michigan is making a move in the Fulmer Cup

The waters of Puget Sound do not flow past beautiful Husky Stadium, those are the waters of Lake Washington.

#8
Dude, that just sounds…well, fucking awesome is how it sounds.

You pretty much nailed it. I want Bobby Bowden’s head on a fucking spike.

Where do you see Petrino ending up after he runs screaming from the Falcons in a couple of years? He might be a good replacement for Bobby Bowden.

Corrected, Seattle. Our ignorance of Washington geography has been noted before.

SEC fans be actin’ like zombies at the mall n’ shit.

Saban’s head on a platter, his body drenched in gasoline and set afire before 90,000 good loyal men and women.

THAT would be enteratinment.

Hear Hear, DCT @ #21
I’ve had that argument w/ my SEC colleagues. It wouldn’t have been 55-19…more like 40-23

Pac 10 Coach, “On my signal, unleash Hell!”

Pac 10 Fan, “What, you mean like an immature Pinot?”

Whitey, +1

Whitey, simply superb work.

#31, let’s not kill off Saban yet. Let him lose 2-3 early on and see how much fun that will be to watch. They’ll do it for us.

It pains me to think I will have to pull for Free Shoes for once. Orson, forgive me.

Didn’t Herschel win the Heisman in 1982, not 1980?

1. Ooh so sorry to hear about being stuck up in Boston amidst the likes of Bentley/Brandeis wanksters. I used to be from there and I gave up following the red sox a couple years ago because it just go to be too ridiculous. Watching games with people around there, every pitch is life or death, not even the games, which Id try to remind people like my mom that each one only counted for

Benmillion (#8)-

That is my impression as well. How did us yanks ever win the civil war(see next comment)?

DCtrojan(#14)-

closer inspection would also reveal the ‘mob’ to be wearing reefs with thier jeans, happily singing (not angry chanting), and ulimately ending up at the beach, after stopping by the police station for a quick protest, off course.

#17, I work with some Ivy League grads. I like to ask them how much they paid for school, then just laugh and laugh, and say “don’t we make the same amount? You don’t want to know what I paid to go to a state school.”

(Of course the jokes on me, as there trust fund amply funded both the Ivy League education and their ski lodge, but I digress.)

Some of us Pac-10 fans do have passion, but prefer to destroy things that are farther away or much larger in scope. Some of the alumni have gone on to destroy bigger and better things such as Herbert Hoover of Stanford or Robert McNamara of Cal. We do care it is just that destroying an entire country’s economy or firebombing a small country into victory should not be directed at other regions in the country where they might begin to view the second coming of General Sherman as their savior.

I bet the purple nightmare drives a freakin’ Prius to games.

Some of us Pac-10 fans do have passion, but prefer to destroy things that are farther away or much larger in scope. Some of the alumni that have gone on to destroy bigger and better things are Herbert Hoover of Stanford or Robert McNamara of Cal. We do care it is just that destroying an entire country’s economy or firebombing a small country into victory should not be directed at other regions in the country where they might begin to view the second coming of General Sherman as their savior.

There is no question that the SEC fanbase is more rabid than the Pac-10’s, but it doesn’t affect play on the field so much. Except when the SEC refuses home and home series with other major conference teams and takes advantage of that fervor by not leaving home.

And there are occasional exceptions. Such as Autzen Stadium being arguably the loudest stadium in college football.

1. Of course if Pac-10 teams had to play a schedule full of SEC caliber teams, they would not be wanting a a home and home series with an SEC team. I’m not saying anything, I’m just saying…

After clicking back on the bit about Orson’s lack of geographical knowledge on the Pacific Northwest, I realized that portion on WVU’s fullback was not on his nasty hair lip but on his stupid hair cut.

tisk, tisk Janus09. This thread was pleasantly light hearted and humer driven. Yet you invite the storm.

#45

SEC caliber teams that have a losing record vs. Pac-10 teams since 2000?

1. Damn that’s grizzled.

To end this debate I refer you to the story earlier this year that naked hippies camped in trees to prevent a football stadium from going up at Cal. In the South, those trees would have come down hippies and all. Casualties be damned.

casualties? where?

#47

My apologies, the Forde article itself was on the superiority of the conferences.

My sister went to Oregon. Though a good venue Autzen does not sniff the top ten.

Heard mixed reviews on Autzen’s volume. It likely depends on the game, though. The Swamp for Western Kentucky will be relaxed and merely loud. For Tennessee, it will be like riding in the trunk of a car with a busted muffler for four hours.

PAC-10 Coaching

SEC Coaching

Lloyd Carr “it’s the loudest stadium I’ve ever been in.”

And in case you doubt the aging Mr. Carr’s hearing…

Michigan Daily Mail “Autzen’s 59,000 strong make the ‘Big House’ collectively sound like a pathetic wimper. It’s louder than ‘The Swamp’ at Florida, ‘The Shoe’ in Columbus and ‘Death Valley’ at Louisiana State.”

I could quote Lee Corso to, but I don’t want to hurt my argument.

1. - feel free to pick and choose the years that support your argument. I certainly didn’t mean to offend you with my Prius comment. Sorry, dude.

No. 38, I’ve just learned to embrace the hysteria and sit back and laugh at it. Boston isn’t really such a bad place in a lot of ways; if it weren’t for winter and Bostonians, it would be downright pleasant.

#48

This century is picking your years??

Orson

The volume does change of course depending on the game but not much more than most other stadiums. It’s blaring for Oregon St, Washington, and big ooc games.

#54-big ten stadii=not very loud. Not a good barometer
There is no comparison to the swamp

Janus
Autzen can claim to be the loudest when it registers as a FUCKING EARTHQUAKE.
With Love
LSU fans

54 – Michigan has never played LSU, much less been to Tiger Stadium. Paraphrasing a stolen line: the difference between Auzen Stadium and Tiger Stadium (The Swamp, Neyland Stadium, etc.) is the diference between shooting a bullet and throwing it.

Boston frog,

It’s mainly the Bostonians that make it unlivable. Did you happen to see the Phoenix’s 27 bad traits of Boston last year? Some of their critique is spot on. Yet their readers will chuckle at Boston’s endearing problems and do nothing.

Re #54- That’s not the Oregon fans making Autzen so loud, just the players uniforms…

1. - are you related to tOSUbuckeyes by any chance?

By the way, the Big House is known for not being loud – so Lloyd saying Autzen is loud is not exactly a ringing endorsement.

Down in front is not a cheer

Yeah – me and HTML aren’t the best of friends… here was my link the old fashioned way-
http://michiganzone.blogspot.com/2006/08/make-big-house-loud_24.html

tzubear, I didn’t see that list, but I could probably come up with 2700. No. 1, a complete lack of street signs. Hey, you just have to be a local…

Fortunately most of my friends are transplants, and my fiancee, though born in Rhode Island, cleansed herself by living in Louisiana and Kansas for years growing up. (Plus, her parents aren’t New Englanders, which is very important.) I married a Bostonian once upon a time—I ain’t doin’ that again.

I would sell my children to gypsies to see LSU play USC at the end of this year. Rabid gypsies. With poor parenting skills.

57 – the century started 2001, not 2000.

From Matt Hayes…an actual sportswriter who has been to all these venues.

Most intimidating places to play…
1. Autzen Stadium, Oregon
2. Ben Hill Griffin Stadium, Florida
3. Kyle Field, Texas A&M
4. Tiger Stadium, LSU
5. Doak Campbell Stadium, Florida State
6. Ohio Stadium, Ohio State
7. Lane Stadium, Virginia Tech
8. Jordan-Hare Stadium, Auburn
9. Notre Dame Stadium, Notre Dame
10. Memorial Stadium, Nebraska

Trust me that Oregon is the exception in the Pac-10.

But I am sure you are a huge expert who has also been to all these places…

Where’s Coop, Chili, ow Willy Mac at with the ESPN frameshot/quote of Clemson’s Memorial Stadium reaching some freakish high decbel level… of course they don’t tell you the mike was placed about 3" from Brad Scott while he was munching on some tater chips while thinking about getting a plate of hog ass and rice from Mutt’s.

Again, I think Pants McPants’ (62) comment explains the top seeding there.

#1,#3,#5, and probably #9 do not deserve to be on that list.

If Matt Hayes told me it was going to be 100 degrees in Birmingham tomorrow, I’d start pulling all my winter coats out of the closet.

#68

Matt Hayes has Doak as the 5th toughest place to play in the NCAA? Wow! Just imagine how tough of a stadium it would be if they could actually sell out their games.

http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070803/SPORTS/708030350/1002/SPORTS

#71

Almost all non-SEC stadiums. Shocking. And I am sure you’ve been to all these just like the writer?

#59: We have ACTUAL earthquakes ’round these parts — no need to fake ’em.

Even as a hopeless Cal homer, I can still concur there is some truth to Forde’s column. Your average SEC fan is, on the whole, more tied into college football than your average Pac-10 fan. The smaller cities of the South and long-time regional rivalries parallel academics pretty easily — and without major sports programs (save Atlanta and Nawlins), college football IS IT.

However, that being said, the most violent and crazed amongst us can match any of the nutjobs you’ve got south of the Mason-Dixon. I’ve seen grown men weeping inconsolably after a big loss, assaults on another team’s fans and players — I even once heard a Cal student screaming that he would rape an older BYU alum’s many wives, mere inches away from his face.

I think the fact that Pac-10 fans are actually worked up enough about the article to try and disprove it should show that there’s some semblance of “Southern passion” in our ranks.

#53
been to two games @ autzen. first one was after the quacks beat michigan and were playing the dynasty known as the washington state cougars. had two high school friends playin for the coogs so i got tix. never been to a louder stadium for a few as it sits, however, wsu scored like 21 in the first quarter, never heard a more deafening silence.

the other was the uw game last year, wasnt that loud cause both teams sucked, uw just sucked more.

#75

Exactly, outmatched as a whole in fervor with a minor exception here and there.

#68-Matt Who?

While I’ve only attended games at the ‘Shoe, I think I can say our #6 spot on the list is generous. Lots of stuffy old assholes sitting on their hands telling me to sit down while I’m trying to cheer for my team.

Southern folks I’ve met put their money on The Swamp. While I hate to admit it, how can I argue with them? The games on TV sound like people cheering their approval of cocaine and free lap dances.

Pac 10 Homer vs SEC Mouths of the South Dept:

Even though USC is my team, I gotta admit that the SEC has more lunatic fanatics than the Pac 10. From Farty Forde’s column:

“SEC averaged 75,706 fans per home game last year and the Pac-10 averaged 56,314. " From my experience at USC games, it seems that many ladies are there for the social aspects, such as drinking large amounts of liquor and gossiping and not really all of that into the game until the bitter end – IF the game is close, whereas, I am guessing SEC fans, even the ladies, actually watch the game closely throughout.

Also, top to bottom the SEC is a little stronger than the Pac 10 – - BUTTTT – > not by much. Sort of like saying that Shakira’s butt is better than Beyonce’s butt.

Shakira shakes it better but not by that much.

Yes, Chris Rix said that Death Valley was the loudest place he ever played when we kicked their ass his junior year, 2003. I referenced his class at FSU and the year itself for the following reasons:

Given that it was his JUNIOR year, Mr. Rix visited the Swamp on one occasion prior to visiting Death Valley.

2003 was the last time we visited Cola while Lou Holtz was coaching the Gamecocks. Maybe “someone” who reads EDSBS remembers that game?

Been to 7/10 #1, #5, #7 are not comparable. Have not been to 3, 9, 10 but have seen numerous Domer’s in awe after seeing a game in the Swamp. BTW Matt Hayes is a douchebag.

Look, we understand Autzen gets loud, maybe even comprable to the top SEC venues on a pound for pound basis. But that Hayes does not help your point. Doak-crap was intimidating because of the team on the sidelines and the chop, it doesn’t sniff the top 10 in loud. Jordan Hare is much louder, and I hate Auburn. Notre Dame? I was there for a USC game for crying out loud; intimidating, yes. loud, no. (yes, you could hear me crying)….
The SEC venues are where audibles go to die.

#78

Matt Hayes has covered college football in Florida since 1990.

But I am sure a random SEC fan knows more than him anyways. Those guys know everything about stuff they know little about.

The games on TV sound like people cheering their approval of cocaine and free lap dances.

No lap dance is ever truly free.

it depends on if you have a conscience swindle.

“No lap dance is ever truly free.”

Quoted for Truth. Not even going to abbreviate it, because this might be the truest statement ever uttered on this board; or at the very least, the truthiest.

1. almost all non SEC stadiums yes but there are more SEC stadiums than any other single conference.

When Neyland and Samford Stadium don’t make the list, I think we can claim good depth. I can’t believe I’m going to say this but I was impressed by Alabama’s stadium with the new edition. For the first time ever, it got loud.

PAC 10 fans see the world as it should be and ask, “Why not?”

SEC fans see the world as it is and ask, “Suck it, fag.”

Janus – You left out what Hayes was ranking:

“the 10 most intimidating stadiums for one game and one game only.”

At any rate you have one subjective data point. There are literally dozens of subjective opinions, many by Pac10 players and coahces, that Tiger Stadium is the worst place to play (one example, see this site http://www.tigerstadium.com/quotes/lsu3.swf)

Subjective aside, please cite one objective data point such as registering on the richter scale.

1. Yes we know you have regular ones. The point is our stadium gets loud enough to create them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthquake_Game

If you’ve been to Autzen and some of the others on the list I respect your opinion, but you were likely at a game that the crowd wasn’t that pumped for…It happens, especially when the team underperforms, such as last year.

Autzen is also somewhat designed to trap the sound in, giving it an advantage. Very similar in design to the Seahawks stadium, which is pretty much the loudest in the NFL.

Dennis Erickson doesn’t have time for this shit.

Arguments about which stadium is louder is like winning the special Olympics. Even if you win, you’re still a retard.

Janus @ #74
No I have not however, I have been to #’s 2,3,4,5,8, & 9.
Kyle was loud but nowhere close to 2,4, or 8.
Doak is just a bunch of people, with a common interest, at the same place.
Although I have never been there, I can verify #7 & #10.

But the lap dance is so much better when the stripper is crying.

Coop – yes, I remember, WB was freaking quiet except for the one Orange corner.

#91,

I think that’s the whole point. The Swamp, for example, is always loud. Always. Not just against Tennessee or FSU. Not just when we’re a championship team. Even when [name redacted] was the coach, and we were mired in mediocrity, it sounded like a 747 taking off during a rock concert. The same can be said for most of the rest of the SEC. Can the same be said for Autzen?

#87

Nobody is saying that the SEC doesn’t rank highest in this as a conference. Of course they do.

And on the more entertaining subject of strip clubs, finally I can bring out some definitive hard proof…

Per Capita
Portland – 7.74 per 100k (highest in the country)
Oregon – 2.6 per 100k (second only to West Fuckin Virginia…really?)

A steak at the acropolis sounds good right now.

"No lap dance is ever truly free."

I wise man in New Orleans told me once that “Those things that are free? Sometimes they cost the most.”

The Swamp – UF – SC game 2006

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBfXwjvCdyU

I would agree that for an average middle of the season game that The Swamp would beat Autzen, but for a huge ooc game, the Civil War, or another big game then it’s Autzen.

Hayes list was for 1 big game and it also lists weather as a factor, which is a huge disadvantage for Autzen.

OOC,

I gave you guys the ultimate compliment, although I sound Jewish (not that there is anything wrong with that, just a funny stereotype) when I say this, on the Fla/Aub segment when I revealed that I trusted SCar with my money.

Truthfully, betting on South Carolina in most games became a sure thing, post mid-October, as they beat the points against almost everyone they played, or at least that is how I remember it. I took SCar against the spread versus Ark, Fla, and maybe UT, and won them all.

Of course, I did not bet on you guys in the season finale out of principle, as I never bet against Clemson.

I didn’t bet on Clemson, either, which tells you all you need to know about what I thought going into that game. I think we were a 4 point favorite.

One last point: in the Bay, at least, we’ve got to deal with the Raiders taking all of our best crazies. Like, ACTUAL murderers.

Average Raiders fans > X > Average SEC fans > Average Pac-10 fans

#96

quality over quantity every time my friend. come to dallas…..we have both.

fear vanderbilt stadium!!!

This is a sad poor man’s ripoff of Onion humor. Fuckwit.

Ugh.

I come to the comment sections of EDSBS posts for three things: Links to half naked latina models, constant and overwhelming jokes about the size of opposing teams nut sacks and the occasional reference to a piece of literature I haven’t read yet but should in the near future.

Now its all a big contest to out snark the broads from the female sports blog (ladiesdotdotdot or whatever the hell it is).

I shall return in a month and hopefully the new season will bring about a change.

#67

In 2000, the Pac-10 was all of 1-0 vs. the SEC…

So, in this century and also since 2000 as well the Pac-10 has a winning record vs. the SEC.

I call bullshit on the people claiming The Swamp is ‘always loud’.
 I watched plenty of Florida games on television when was the head coach, and the stands had huge sections of fans masquerading as seats, and it was as quiet as a church.
 This isn’t surprising, b/c a poor coach can suck the will to live out of even the most fanatical of fans. Dennis Franchione is living proof of this at A&M.

that should be name redacted was the head coach

#102…Down here in LA, we seem to have the combo-USC-Oakland Raider fan all wrapped in one…

1. - It is impossible to outsnark the broads at ladiesdot..dot..dot, or almost any other one for that matter. Because no matter how good your jab is, they can always make fun of your johnson, and that is all she wrote…..as far as the snark wars….

1. - was the wise man a hobo?

#43…. General Sherman was an SEC man (not so much a georgia fan though)… before being a union general he was the first president of LSU.

1. Brian: Nope that old man was Kathleen B. Blanco, guvnor of the State of Lousy-ana.

#60-

Hammer, nail, and shit.

Been to Autzen. Extremely overrated. There are eight SEC stadiums louder, and there are ten that are louder when MSU and Ole Miss are playing well.

I’ve had “Oh, shit, that’s loud” moments in the swamp, death valley, at Auburn, Alabama, and Georgia. Oregon? Not so much.

Great, Janus. Quoting Matt Hayes?

http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/?p=2072

Read Rule #11

Janus…

2002, Mississippi State at Oregon, first game of the year, OOC game against a then-respected SEC foe, and Oregon was preseason top ten. Sellout crowd.

I heard the stories about it being the “loudest place on earth” and I’m here to tell you, it wasn’t even close. Cram your ass into the upper deck at Neyland or just below the student section at Tiger stadium and then come talk to me.

The little duck calls were cute, though.

That Matt Hayes is a dick?

I am not sure his mannerisms apply to him actually going to all these stadiums.

Oregon – 2.6 per 100k (second only to West Fuckin Virginia…really?)

Indeed. We love us some titties.

#114

In their defense it wasn’t a close game.

Miss St. -13 Oregon -36.

I have already conceded that on an average day the top tier SEC stadiums are louder. But Autzen for a big game beats them all. The stadiums design allows for more potential noise.

#94, cue the Bossa Nova.

Come on, Janus. It was funny for a little bit, but it’s getting sad.

#118

You’re right, it’s such an outlandish position that Autzen stadium is really loud.

You don’t follow college football much do you?

@116

Show us yours

I take strong offense to #33.

We Pac-10 fans know better than to cellar our pinots for too long. Cabernet, that’s another story.

#97:

Fuck yes, A-Crop love on EDSBS! The best damn steak & titties location in the land! I was actually there a few nights ago, and it impresses me more and more every time.

#119,

Nope. I come here for the Jai Alai.

#18. You suck, pdx. You’re supposed to either make a witty, self-deprecating remark about us Pac-10 fans or simply defend us. Instead you chose to rank on Cal and Tedford. Well, f**k you, he’s staying! STAYING I tell you.

As for the actual thread topic…..I kind of like the idea of getting woozy on some white, having some sourdough and cheese, getting “appropriately” excited about the team and the game, and then having the team beat the crap out of an opponent whose fans care a lot more. Makes my day, actually. Hope it happens labor day weekend.

I could care less about the ‘loudest stadium’ argument and will recognize Autzen as being just as loud as any in the SEC, but the claim that the SEC isn’t willing to travel should be dropped at this point.

Georgia will be heading to Arizona State, Oregon and Colorado soon. We had Oregon State back out on us. We’re also going to Louisville which was scheduled back when they were still in Conf USA.

UT#2’s heading to Cal this year and made a recent trip to ND. They’ll be heading to Nebraska, Oklahoma, UCLA, and Oregon in the future.

Bama made recent trips to UCLA and Oklahoma, and will be heading to Penn State in the future.

All of those are off the top of my head along with a quick nationalchamps.net search of UT#2’s future schedule. Miss State, Ole Miss, LSU, and Arkansas are some other teams that have been willing to mix it up with big OOC teams lately and who have some scheduled in the future right now if I’m not mistaken.

The old ‘the SEC never plays anyone OOC’ (which ignored traditional rivals played late in the year like FSU, GTU, and Clemson) just doesn’t hold water any more.

#122, when will the ’05’s be peaking (or have they)?

Me SEC fan. Me like bourbon and beer. ME no sommelier.

1. - UT has always been the exception to the scheduling rule.

1. - see relative alcohol content of wine and beer. Us? We usually do wine before and beer after, and the hard stuff at the donor luncheons, where it’s free :)

1. 126 – Warthen: You write: “The old ‘the SEC never plays anyone OOC’ (which ignored traditional rivals played late in the year like FSU, GTU, and Clemson) just doesn’t hold water any more.”

You are myopically wrong, little man. Here is the SEC’s OOC schedule. I think each team in the SEC is trying to beat each other regarding how many minnows can be scheduled per season.

SEC East

Florida – Western Kentucky, Troy, Florida Atlantic, Florida St.

Georgia – Oklahoma St., Western Carolina, Troy, @ Georgia Tech

Kentucky – Eastern Kentucky, Kent St., Louisville, Florida Atlantic

South Carolina – La. – Lafayette, S. Carolina St., @ North Carolina, Clemson

Tennessee – @ California, Southern Miss, Arkansas St., La.-Lafayette

Vanderbilt – Richmond. Eastern Michigan, Miami (OH), Wake Forest

SEC West

Alabama – Western Carolina, Florida St., Houston, La.-Monroe

Arkansas – Troy, North Texas, Tenn.- Chattanooga, Florida International

Auburn – Kansas St., S. Florida, New Mexico St., Tennessee Tech

LSU – Virginia Tech, Middle Tennessee, @ Tulane, La. Tech
Mississippi St. – @ Tulane, Gardner-Webb, UAB, @ West
Virginia

Mississippi – @ Memphis, Missouri, La. Tech, Northwestern St.

The Pac 10 is playing 10 BCS teams out of conference this year: Syracuse, Colorado, Nebraska, Michigan, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Tennessee, and Notre Dame 3 times.

The SEC is playing FSU twice, UNC, Virginia Tech, Missouri, Oklahoma State, Georgia Tech, Clemson, Louisville, Cal, Kansas State,South Florida, and West Fuckin Virginia this year.

The SEC is playing BCS games at relatively the same rate as the Pac10 even when accounting for larger league size.

I’ll admit that the Pac10 has tougher OOC schedules, but the idea that the SEC won’t play BCS teams OOC is undeniably false.

Bragging about how loud your crowd is when the stadium has a fucking sound-reflecting roof is like bragging about how your dick can stay hard for 3 hours after you pump it up with your ballsack air bladder.

I challenge your wine-tasting ass to come to the AU-UF game this year and you’ll hear loud. You’ll feel loud. It will be so loud there that you will become temporarily incontinent of bowel and bladder.

AMERICA! FUCK YEAH!

Stacy Keibler, have you looked who the teams play in CONFERENCE?

There are 8 coaches in the SEC that have won their division (Saban, Nutt, Tuberville, Miles, Fulmer, Spurrier, Meyer, Richt).

There are 8 coaches in the SEC that have won 10 games.
(Saban, Nutt, Tuberville, Miles, Fulmer, Spurrier, Richt, Meyer)

There are 7 coaches in the SEC that have won 10 games more than once. (Saban, Nutt, Tuberville, Miles, Fulmer, Spurrier, Richt,)

There are 7 coaches in the SEC that have won 11 games in a season. (Saban, Tuberville, Miles, Fulmer, Spurrier, Richt Meyer)

There are 6 coaches in the SEC that have won 11 games more than once. (Saban, Tuberville, Miles, Fulmer, Spurrier, Richt)

There are 6 coaches in the SEC that have won 12 games (Saban, Tuberville, Fulmer, Spurrier, Meyer, Richt)

There are 2 coaches in the SEC that have won 12 games more than once (Fulmer, Spurrer)

There are 6 coaches in the SEC that have won the SEC outright. (Saban, Tuberville, Fulmer, Spurrier, Meyer, Richt)

There are 6 coaches in the SEC that have won BCS games (Saban, Tuberville, Fulmer, Spurrier, Meyer, Richt)

Our bye weeks are tougher than most other conferences in-conference games. So, it’s nice to pick on the sisters of the poor every now and again.

You’re just jealous of the SEC because our teams are better, our stadiums are louder, our women are hotter, and our beer is colder. And, your women are jealous of us because if we go commando, it hurts.

@125

“STAYING I tell you.”

bullshit, you guys will never get the facilities/stadium built to keep him (re: hippies chaining themselves to redwoods where the proposed site is see:

http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20070111/a_treesitters11.art.htm

plus, YOURE CAL you dont care about football. you couldnt fill memorial til jeff showed up, if belotti gets axed/leaves you best believe that the ducks will come calling and be willing to pay ANYTHING to get ol jeffy back up developing QBs.

@ 134

We will win. And Tedford is staying!

http://myspace.com/calmemorialstadium

http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?callfb07

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=222819008&blogID=295425700

The SEC travelling argument is now half wrong.

Some of the SEC teams have manned up in a big way. Tennessee and especially Georgia i’m lookin at you guys.

However, most are still weak as hell.

So when I say the SEC won’t travel I am excluding 2 or 3 teams, OK?

1. the true joke is not the trust fund. It is a little thing called corporate recruiting. You may be making the same amount of money, but you likely majored in some hard as shit, cutthroat discipline to get that interview. The Ivy League grad majored in religion, was drunk half the week, and went into the interview without knowing what IPO signifies.

#137, that is rather true. One of my friend’s sisters is attending Yale for heer PhD and worked hard to be accepted, but there are a large amount of legacy students that fit what you described. My PhD advisor’s son attends MIT and calls most of the students at Harvard a bunch of dumbasses for the exact same reason.

You know, five years before old Tucker Paulding IV, Attorney-at-law, was gradumacating from UGA, we really, actually were bulldozing hippies out of trees to expand the stadium here in Texas.

Thirty-five years from now, maybe the board short crowd will finally catch up to Vince Young, too.

#68

Matt Hayes has poor judgement for even considering Doak Campbell for that list. He also must have mind numbing fear of the color green.

Jordan-Hare should be in the top five, top three if it’s a night game. When that damn bird starts flying around the field that is one of the loudest and best moments in college football.

Holy fuckballs, you guys take your stadium rankings seriously. In my opinion, the toughness of a location is entirely dependent on the quality of the team. Miami didn’t win 57 straight home games because people were scared of the Orange Bowl.

#141,

Some people take stadium rankings seriously. It’s a matter of pride for them.

I, however, am a Minnesota fan. I liked having the section to myself.

#118

Sure, it wasn’t a close game. But it was 0-0 at the kickoff. The crowd gave it all they had then. Some ducks next to us were asking us what we thought at the kickoff, expecting us to be in awe of the decible level, and I’m telling you, it’s not even close. I mean, it’s loud, but it’s not Tiger Stadium, or even close.

As for the OOC schedule arguments, some SEC schools play terrible schedules, like Ole Miss. A lot of SEC teams have natural opponents that are up and down (Georgia Tech for UGA, Clemson for SC, FSU for Florida, etc). And some schools really step it up, like UT picking up California. In the last decade, Mississippi State has played home-and-homes with Oregon, BYU, Oklahoma State, and West Virginia. All of this despite the in-conference schedule, which is more brutal than anyone in any other conference has to endure.

Its Friday. Quit having a pissing contest over who is louder by one or two spots, and get O. Swindle to get some fucking light Brown Bunda up pronto.

1. As a UGA fan I appreciate pride in one’s stadium. Sanford is an absolutely beautiful place to see a game. But I’ve noticed that crowd noise has next to zero effect on the outcome of a game. It was plenty loud in ‘05 when Auburn hit a post pattern on 4th and 10 to set up their game winning field goal. All the crowd noise in the world couldn’t stop Tennessee from outscoring us 44-9 after we’d jumped out to a 24-7 lead last year. Nobody found “The Swamp” all that tough until Spurrier got there. In short, the stadium factor is bullshit.

1. (Janus09): So what you’re saying is, you’re going to believe what you want to believe, facts be damned?

Auburn got left out of this discussion, too: recent home-and-homes with USC, GT, Syracuse and upcoming with West Virginia & Clemson, with another that should be announced shortly (Texas A&M maybe).

1. (DC Trojan) – I don’t personally know any Auburn fan that thinks that way. I only see it online, which puts the odds at 50% that it’s actually a bama fan. But equally absurd is comments like in #32 (“It wouldn’t have been 55-19…more like 40-23”). This is the same attitude that led so many USC fans to discuss how much they would beat Texas by in 2005, not if. USC/Auburn 2004 was too close to call going in and could have gone either way, much like the Rose Bowl against UT. The only way to know is to play the game. Which, of course, didn’t happen, because USC/Oklahoma was “the game everybody wanted to see” ($1 to Herbstreit), even though most people turned it off in the 2nd quarter.

We interrupt this monkeys-at-the-zoo poop flinging to note that Penn State has taken the lead in the Fulmer Cup with a pair of underage drinking citations.

http://www.statecollege.com/news/local/article.php?cat=4&id=15354

Suck on that, [CRIMINAL CHARGES REDACTED]!

Herschel Walker did not win the Heisman in 1980. George (His Name Be Praised) Rogers did.

I never met him, but he did pee in my fraternity house once.

Janus, you’re showing your ignorance on this subject. Here’s a hint—just because an OOC game is a rivalry game and just because it is late in the year doesn’t mean that it’s not a big OOC game. We have several of those in the SEC and they are constantly overlooked by folks outside the conference.

UGA-GT, UK-Louisville, UF-FSU, and SCU-Clemson happen every year just like USC-ND. Those games are constantly overlooked just because they aren’t rare OOC games.

Here are some recent and upcoming matchups for SEC teams that I left out earlier so that you can actually learn a little bit about my favorite league.

Auburn—USC, K-State, West Virginia and Clemson
LSU—ASU, Virginia Tech, and Colorado
Miss State was mentioned above
Ole Miss—Georgia Tech, Clemson, Texas Tech

I agree, Janus, you once had a point—but not since the addition of the 12th game.

I’d also like to point out that you may want to rethink your underlying assumption that it’s the SEC teams who are afraid to travel. I know my Bulldogs have had a hell of a time getting a series with a top 15 caliber team. I’m looking at you Michigan.

#21 (DC Trojan) – I don’t personally know any Auburn fan that thinks that way. I only see it online, which puts the odds at 50% that it’s actually a bama fan.

Given the tone of Auburn / Alabama threadjacks, that’s completely plausible.

USC/Auburn 2004 was too close to call going in and could have gone either way, much like the Rose Bowl against UT.

Hmm. I suppose Auburn wasn’t as dependent on 1 RB and a slow QB, but I’m not convinced. It’s unfortunate that we didn’t find out.

because USC/Oklahoma was "the game everybody wanted to see" ($1 to Herbstreit), even though most people turned it off in the 2nd quarter.

I nodded off briefly during the 3rd quarter, but recovered enough to watch the game. Mostly out of a sense of vindictiveness.

Screw all of those loudest stadium comparisons, I only care about one statistic: USC is undefeated at home for the last 33 games in a row. I don’t care how loud your stadium is if you still lose at home.

Plus, I don’t understand how SEC fans can make fun of Pac X fans……..I mean, I even wear my very own SC jersey to games, and that thing was expensive!

OU undergrad, ND law here. During law school, I took two classmates who were Oregon alums down to Norman for the OU/Oregon game. Both the Oregon kids spent the whole drive down talking about how loud Autzen was. After the game, they both acknowledged that Memorial Stadium was much louder than Autzen. They were also impressed that Sooner girls shaved their legs and pits.

Hmm. I suppose Auburn wasn’t as dependent on 1 RB and a slow QB, but I’m not convinced. It’s unfortunate that we didn’t find out.

Indeed.

I nodded off briefly during the 3rd quarter, but recovered enough to watch the game. Mostly out of a sense of vindictiveness.

Understood. That’s the same reason Auburn fans stuck around for the 2005 Iron Bowl (aka “21-0 before you finished the hot dog” or “Honk if you just sacked Brodie”).

The Swamp goes to 11.

#149

Like I said, it’s half and half. Some SEC teams have been huge in their scheduling, others not so much. There are still some embarassing ooc schedules there.

As for the loudest college stadium for one big game, I would trust Lloyd Carr (who’s been at Michigan forever and says Autzen is the loudest) and Matt Hayes (who has been to all of them) over some SEC fans on a message board.

Also, the stadium is built like an ampitheatre. The decibels are loudest out on the field. So those who are saying well it wasn’t loud in the crowd, know that it gets much louder at ground level. So get better seats to judge.

I can’t believe it took 154 posts for the inevitable Spinal Tap reference.

so janus all we have to do is set up microphones and speakers and we have the loudest stadium? done.

UGA doesn’t get credit for their OOC schedule until they actually play those games at UCLA, UO, and CU. They haven’t played a game out of the south in something like 40 years. Same goes for Florida. Yes FSU is a great OOC game, but it’s in your state. Reverse goes for Michigan. Playing a game in the south once a decade shouldn’t be too much to ask.

Oh pdx,

“if belotti gets axed/leaves you best believe that the ducks will come calling and be willing to pay ANYTHING to get ol jeffy back up developing QBs.”

Go ask your Doggy buddies in Seattle how well that strategy works.

The last time Michigan played in a SEC stadium, there was no SEC (Vandy- 1922). It was the SIAA. So using Llyod Carr as an authority on stadium volume is beyond weak.

Michigan did play in Columbia, SC once, but it was 7 years before they joined the SEC (’85).

And Warthen, I know how you feel, Michigan refused to play in Auburn, too.

“Go ask your Doggy buddies in Seattle how well that strategy works”

uw has a limp dick AD, i think thats obvious to any PX fan. phil knight wants to win, that is no longer job #1 for UW football.

I beg your pardon in regard to the most intimidating places to play, has thou never happened upon Rynearson Stadium in Ypsilanti Michigan on a late fall evening? Ow! Its electric, boogie,boogie,boogie,boogie.