ALABAMA, YOU'VE BEEN DEADSPUN

As usual, Uncle Sam doesn’t know his ass from a hole in the ground. I live in New Orleans, good thing T-Town got some money for condos they don’t need before I got a street sign!!

Nick Saban doesn’t have time for condos.

It is pretty embarrassing to see our politicians do this. I don’t know why we were deemed a federal disaster zone in the first place the day after Katrina hit. (yes, I left a joke open for somebody).

To be honest, there are about 10 new condo deals going on in this city. Most aren’t even near campus. But hey, it always sounds better to include a University doesn’t it?

I wonder what’s stopping the Alabama legislature and/or Alabama-based firms on, say, giving these funds to places that need it more. Is there some sort of regulation against transferring money elsewhere?

Yay! I get to spread word of how a cluster GO Zone is on EDSBS as well! Huzzah for angry housing advocacy worker day on the sports interwebs!

There’s also the multi-millions that’ll be spent to move the Army Corps of Engineers building in Tuscaloosa so that the river front can be further developed.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/07/05/national/main3019291.shtml

There isn’t a tiny part of this story that surprises me.

Not even the part about million-dollar gameday condos in Alabama?

This is being misrepresented, of course. This is not money that was given to the builders. It means the builders can depreciate the cost of buildings over a shorter period of time. It’s a tax-break, not actual money being handed out. Big difference.

My tax accountant brain is spinning in overdrive right now. Time to work on the retirement fund…or get ready for a trip to Enron jail.

Pete, the cheap condos are going for $350K… you know, the 1200 Sq Ft, barely two bedroom, “roommate” plan types.

I will point out that none of these properties are being developed by the University itself. Also, there was significant damage in certain parts of Tuscaloosa (trees on houses, that sort of thing), and Tuscaloosa (not Northport) is a pretty poor city. So, I can understand being part of the GO Zone. I’d just like an explanation as to why someone approved letting these developers take advantage of it.

Oh, wait, I moved back to Alabama… no need for explanations of legislative mismanagement… I just needed to clear the cobwebs.

I know what $1M looks like in DC. So what does a $1M condo look like in Alabama?

I’m surprised that our state legislators took enough time out from chasing skirts, getting stinking drunk, and accepting payola, to get something like this approved.

And by know what it looks like, I mean, “my boss has invited me inside once”.

As those from Tuscaloosa know, Stan Pate is a dirtbag of the first order. They’ve basically tried to run him out of town by blocking all of his projects, but he’s a persistent bastard.

1. - GO Zone incentives are federal tax breaks not grants, loans or other means of direct funding. You spend the money to build/buy the condo but are allowed accelerated depreciation on the asset – saves you money on your future federal tax bill…Bama legislature has nothing to do with it.

Tuscaloosa was included because of the number of evacuees which wound up in town…and Sen. Shelby is the senior Republican Senator on the Senate Appropriations Committee and huge W supporter…and a Bama alum and hasreal estate business venture in T-town

Baton Rouge, LA and Starkvegas, MS are also in the GO Zone… but either no one wants a game day condo in those places or they think GO Zone is a new prevent defense…

Agreed Pooley. If there’s one thing that all Alabama residents can agreement upon, its that Stan Pate is a dickbird.

Gee thanks, Richard Shelby … way to help out your hometown and your alma mater (uat)

Why not do what’s best for your state and your country, not just “home” ???

Please just retire.

Bob Riley for U.S. Senate in ’10.

i’m sure if it wasn’t for these condos new orleans and the rest of the gulf coast would be rebuilt by now. if you want to be pissed at the rich getting richer via a loophole (again) fine, but this is just barely a katrina story.

On a side note, I think Stan Pate has one of those Russian mail-order bride / girlfriends. Tells you something about his charming personality when a multi multi millionaire has to go international to get laid.

Shady politicians? In the south?! That’s un-fucking…oh, no, that’s totally believable, nay, expected.

Deadspin, AMONG OTHERS, should have kept their mouths shut.

You boys got on this as if it wasn’t a done deal approximately 9 months ago.

To quote one, possibly homosexual, Stewie Griffith, “ah, it’s good to own land.”

The Al-Abama regime in Tuscaloosia must be completely conquered or driven out before any semblance of civility can thrive in that tardtown.

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Coop, are you threatening Orson?

24
Not only that, it sounds like he’s threatening to bring the Gays after Orson. Take her easy, Coop.

Shelby says the inclusion of Tuscaloosa was due to the influx of evacuees. How many of these evacuees will be purchasing one of these condos?

Just to be clear, this was a decision made at the Federal level correct?

So it took more than one corrupt politician to execute this textbook delivery of sweet, sweet real estate pork to wealthy T-town developers.

At least none of those taxes were going to directly benefit Alabama anyway.

#26
None, most of them spent their FEMA checks on important stuff like liquor and lap dances.

And where does one get a lap dance in Tuscaloosa?

Why all the whining about tax breaks? Do you think most of your tax money is being put to good use?

That’s what I thought.

Smart for them. I’m just pissed off that the entire state didn’t get a GO Zone status.

I wonder if any of the condo complexes will be called “The Daywalker.”

in Tuscaloosa there is ample demand for million dollar condos, whereas Auburn hasn’t even sold all their regular season tickets yet, the processed shit/fertilizer business must be in a down cycle

mp —

Out of curiosity, where did you go to college?

And….TIME!

I’m kind of disappointed it took all the way to comment #32 before the AU vs. UA thread jack appeared.

If they’re building condos, where will the Bammer fans park their Winnebagos?

Well, if any of the new residents of The Daywalker are looking for “art” to hang, they need only click the link:

http://www.burgessartstudio.com/images/webbigc.jpg

Portraits of midget retards really lend to the ambiance of a taxpayer-funded shamdominium.

Almost a year ago, a developer was approved for almost $5 million in gozone financing to help build a condo/apt/retail very close to Tiger Stadium in BR. I’m not sure anyone noticed.
Here’s the address. I’m not good at the Internets/htmls

http://www.treasury.state.la.us/newsroom/pressreleasescurrent/PR09212006.html

I just don’t see how the building of: "$1 million for units with granite countertops, king-size bathtubs and ‘Bama decor, including crimson couches and Bear Bryant wall art" has anything to do with Katrina relief or economic stimulation for the devistated areas hit by Katrina.

Anyone looking to justify this is simply a Bama homer.

Here’s my biggest question, where the hell was Mr. Shelby and his appropriation committee when Enterprise was devastated by that tornado? Oh that’s right, Enterprise is located in south Alabama and has no ties to the Criminal Tide.

a small school named Washington and Lee, but I went to law school at Alabama – Im no daywalker

mp —

Thank you for the candor.

Now, what did you think of my suggestion for Daywalker art?

Do you own one?

I’ll be the first person to jump on the “let’s take down the federal government for ignoring the true needs of the Katrina and Rita-hit areas for the sake of padding the pockets of large corporations through no-bid contracts” bandwagon.
BUT, in the developers’ defense — Go Zone bonds were designed to spur economic development through a construction boom. Rising tide lifts all boats sort of thing. And since the feds set the boundaries to include such a large area – probably a political necessity to fund such a large program – folks are gonna grab the money.
Don’t blame the playa, blame the game. In other words.

Well to be fair, Tuscaloosa is a crap-hole; it may as well been hit by a hurricane
(I’ll collect my “too easy” prize now, thanks)

#37
Good to hear Louisiana hasn’t failed the corruption/exploitation test, but who wants a mural of Edwin Edwards and Jimmy Swaggart in their condo?

Ah, the inevitable slings and arrows directed towards Louisiana from Bammer fans trying desparately to defend this pathetic and shameful action. It never makes sense to me how people will seek to disparage those who dominate them of late. It’s nice to know how stupid and idiotic and outright terrible we are but yet manage to win 6 of the 7 of late. It says something when you are so inferior, to take the words of those brilliant Bammers above, but yet still comes out on top. It warms the heart really.

damn, wish i would have thought of that!

No one should be surprised that Stan Pate is involved in something shady – I watched two acres on McFarland Blvd. rot under his control for 3 years in the name of “improvement.”

1. - not to defend Shelby but Enterprise got:

More than $8.7 million for disaster assistance to homeowners, renters and business owners, according to officials in the Alabama Emergency Management Agency (AEMA) and the U.S. Department of Homeland Security’s Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA).

These funds come in the form of grants (nearly $1.5 million) from state and federal programs for uninsured personal losses and as disaster loans (more than $7.2 million) from the U.S. Small Business Administration (SBA) which provides money for individuals as well as businesses to repair and rebuild.

#44

i noticed you used the phrase “of late” twice. wise decision.

and as a person born and raised in louisiana…don’t try to defend louisiana politics…you’ll only look stupid.

When I was in Louisiana, David Duke ran for gov against Edwards…bumper stickers urged everyone to “Vote for the Criminal…its Important”… classic statement on La. politics from no better than source than the bumper of a ’86 Reliant K car…

Gerry, one only looks stupid when they fail reading comprehension. I encourage you to go reread that post and find the words where I defended Louisiana politics.

And I’m sure that of late we both seem to be fond of will only get longer and more interminable. Aubie fans know something of this as well.

But keep thinking $4mill/year has bought you a golden ticket to the Wonka’s MNC factory.

“This is not money that was given to the builders. It means the builders can depreciate the cost of buildings over a shorter period of time. It’s a tax-break, not actual money being handed out. Big difference.”

And here I thought that money was fungible. It turns out money received if largely different from money not paid. Who knew?

“Deadspin, AMONG OTHERS, should have kept their mouths shut.”

Kinda like that boy from Hartselle who asked his dad to borrow his car After Bama got beat by Arkansas. That m-effer nearly took a bullet. Don’t let that happen to you, Orson.

32- I can’t believe I am about to defend Auburn, but a remarkable new parasite resistant pasturage was developed there and is testing quite well. Considering that all anthelmintics are on their way to being useless, that little invention is going to be paying for quite a bit of improvement around Auburn. To be honest with you, I really don’t recall anything of use nationally coming out of University of Alabama in the past decade.

41- by ’a rising tide carries all boats", you do mean “trickle-down economics”, right? Just wanted to tell you that the 80s are …. oh, wait, Alabama probably is still living in the 80s. Nevermind.

#49

i did misread, but only b/c you took someone’s comment regarding louisiana politics and twisted it into lsu dominating alabama in football. clearly i’m stupid.

almost as stupid as jumping to a conclusion regarding my feelings on nick saban’s contract maybe?? besides, an lsu fan should know ray nagin is the REAL wonka. (see how i stayed on the politics topic now you try)

#44
The first comparison to La. and AL was from TigerNacho @ #37. He simply stated that a similar deal had occured in Baton Rouge.

“Ah, the inevitable slings and arrows directed towards Louisiana from Bammer fans trying desparately to defend this pathetic and shameful action.”

I think it might be your reading comprehension that needs to be shorn up…

Meg –
I’m not saying it’s a “sound” program or a “wise” program, I’m merely passing along the “reasoning” behind its justification. I do think South Louisiana and Mississississippi could use some capital projects, infusion of cash, etc.. Certainly more worthy than T-Town.
I’m just saying, when the federal government dangles cheap money under the snouts of private interests, them hogs are gonna feed.

Gurn – I don’t care much for the John Mark Stallings inspired painting- I prefer my daywalker art be of the Daniel Moore variety

54 and 55. it’s called satire. You might’ve learned about it in English class. But I can tell that was an elective you passed up in favor of History 2402, What the Bear Means to Western Civilization and Philosophy 1202 (cross listed with Physics 1505) Living In The Past? It Is Possible.

Look it up, it’ll be of no small use around here. Definitely of more use than bringing up unrelated Louisiana in a topic regarding Tuscaloosa and Alabama. You see, news bits like this are entertaining because it brings out the idiots. Because really, this topic has nothing to do with Bama. But yet you fans of colored water movements get all touchy. Maybe there’s something there after all. It’s like the old adage, if you throw a rock in a pack of dogs, the one that yelps is the one that got hit.

mp —

Careful, now. If you keep being so candid, the real Daywalkers will run you out the Tahd nation.

Any truth to the rumor that John Mark was Shula’s shadow offensive coordinator last year?

#58

someone bring up louisiana during a discussion of dirty politicians is anything but unrelated. however a nerve has obviously been touched, and you have become defensive, so in the interest of undoing a threadjack. i give.

fwiw, english was not an elective in my major, or yes, i would have taken another semester of military science.

1.) If the original post contains reference to Alabama man, any Auburn/bama fighting should not be considered a thread jack. If those Iowa/ISU folks got back at it again, then it would be a threadjack.

2.) Auburn has so many condos now that the boom has finished. We are saturated.

3.) No, not at all surprised when I read this article.

#38

tOSU,

You never fail to deliver. Just when I haven’t been to this site (read: haven’t read one of your ignorance-filled idiotic posts) in a while, as soon as I come back, there you are, again, proving that you next to NOTHING about EVERYTHING.

See post #47, idiot.

Gerry, there’s that reading comprehension again. The only people being defensive or having nerves touched in this thread are the Bammer fans. Maybe your should get back to that military science stuff, because this reading and writing just ain’t for you.

But congrats on being the first Bammer to attempt to unjack a thread. New territory there.

#58
I made my comment because you took a comment from a LSU fan concerning a situation exactly like the one in Tuscaloosa, and went into a diatribe about LSU/BAMA football. If you think that one cannot contrast and compare GO Zone developments in Tuscaloosa and Baton Rouge because they are unrelated…well, my friend..I can’t help ya.

On the issue of satire..I am blissfully aware of this new-fangled movement. Here, I’ll give it a try…Ray Nagin was inspired to make his “chocolate city” remark after hearing that Les Miles was going to start wearing his hat backwards in a show of solidarity…there ya go..how was that?

I heard Brodie Croyle was declared a Disaster Zone after his last Iron Bowl.

And Orson, when are you going to do a piece on the Saban Bible, er, I mean Alabama Media Guide.

#53

Haven’t you ever heard of laughter? The U of A has been providing ample doses of that to millions ever since Bear died. Is there any better medicine than that?

64. You have mistaken me for someone who possesses one positive feeling for Miles’s head attire and Nagin.

Regardless, don’t ever attempt humor again if that try was indicative of your skills.

I always get a kick out of the amount of pride/joy other people seem to have in beating down Alabama…given that, in light of the derisive remarks about the program and school since “the Bear died”, it is obviously a second tier progam…

Yet it is a program that since 1990 (seven years after Bear’s death) has one less football national championship than UF, the same number as UT and LSU, and one more than all other SEC teams combined!

Even in the worst of times Bama has more to offer than most…

NewAZ-

Well done. I do think Brodie was declared a Disaster Zone.

Speaking of disaster zones, did Pay Dye’s liver and/or lungs get any FEMA money? I keed! I keed! I would never make fun of a dead guy. That’s just tacky.

But seriously, did John Vaughn’s field goals get any relief? Talk about wind damage.

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1. mp- sorry to confuse you with facts, but AU season tix were sold out months ago and plenty of high-priced condos have been sold in Auburn without a cushy tax-break.

http://www.timesdaily.com/article/20070812/NEWS/708120349/1141/SPORTS
scroll to the bottom – the most hilarious and pitiful thing is the last four digits of the ticket hotline are 1957

“Note: Individual tickets to Auburn’s games against Kansas State, South Florida, Mississippi State, New Mexico State, Vanderbilt, Ole Miss and Tennessee Tech are currently available. To purchase tickets to these games, log on to ”http://www.autigertickets.com" target="_blank">www.autigertickets.com or call 1-800-AUB-1957."

re: #71

Ouch! My leg!

#68

That’s the prototypical bammer REACH that you goons have been spewing for years. Since 1990, you guys also lead the SEC in football probations and have five losing seasons and another non-winning season. In 17 years, that’s 6 seasons of non-winning football. That’s more than a third that are in the record books with as many or more losses than wins. Did I explain that enough for you? THAT sounds like a second-tier program to me.

And, before you start listing all the appearances in Atlanta, keep in mind that the ‘93 appearance wasn’t legit, since that team’s official record is something like 1-12-1 and the ’99 appearance was made with a bunch of professionals bought by Logan Young (see NCAA scholarship-raping, again, of uat in February ’02).

Get a grip, bammer.

Is the Bear Bryant art in velvet?

I have a headache. And who the hell is Steve Young?

1. - you’re a real class act

Did LSU fans just threadjack a ‘Bama/’Burn threadjack?

Congrats to Tater Salad for getting the ideal post #…

Pat Dye isn’t dead. He’s well preserved.

As for Vaughn, yes, wind damage works for me.

It’s also a little known secret that a basement was added to the AU athletic complex so that in the event of high winds, tornados, or hurricanes, Tuberville could be ushered underground before his auricles generate too much lift.

Just to clear something up, Alabama fans are not benefitting from the tax breaks, the builders are. The notion that Bama fans are low class because they buy condos built in a “go zone” and Auburn fans aren’t because their condos were not built in a “go zone” is retarded. It is probably the same people building the condos in both places.

Also, that wasn’t a picture of John Mark Stallings, it was Big C, and assistand atheltic trainer and damn nice guy. Fuck you for making fun of him Gurn. I hope you get cancer.

typo – “an assistant”

Kecalf,

If you can’t make fun of midgets, then, sir, I dare say that it is you who is the retard.

Kecalf:

Like i said, I’m sure prints of midget retards are popular. Y’all could have a goat fucking one of those slut twins in the houndstooth hats at the 50, and Daniel Moore could sell millions.

And I thought Prothro did a great Joe Theisman impression.

Kecalf, where’d you go to college?

Gurn:

Fuck you.

Alabama.

Furthermore, these comments regarding midget worship at alabama really don’t mean a whole lot coming from a school with a mural of Terry Bowden on the side of their stadium.

A second tier program is one that can go undefeated but fails to be crowned National Champion.

Examples: Tulane, Marshall, Boise State, and what was that other one…thinking….thinking….. thinking… oh yeah, Auburn.

Kecalf:

That’s all well and good.

For the sake of accuracy, however, I’m compelled to correct the record.

It was not I who made the first reference to John M. Stallings when discussing the portrait of the midget retard. That was one of your own, mp.

Carry on, daywalker.

“And where does one get a lap dance in Tuscaloosa?”

I always preferred the KD house.