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CFB NEOLOGISMS: DAYWALKER

It's inconceivable that you would root for a college football team for a university you didn't attend, but still, it happens. And if you do happen to root for a team you have little to no connection to--like our textbook example, Clay Travis of CBS Sportsline--then hell, we can't piss on that with too much bladder power. It's college football. Who wouldn't want in on a sport where animal totem worship is still openly championed in the year 2007?

But remember: you're still a daywalker.

Daywalker, n. [DEY-waw-ker]. A fan of a college football team who never attended the primary college they root for in real life.

Ex: Clay Travis, though he attended George Washington University and Vanderbilt Law School, is a daywalker who roots for the University of Tennessee. .

We'll prebut Clay here and just let you know that he thinks Florida girls have fat arms. Despite being a daywalker, he's written a giggle-inducing book about a season on the road in the SEC, Dixieland Delight. Which goes to show that the distinction is, while amusing, mostly academic. Except when it comes to parking spaces on gameday, you bastards.

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Clay Travis IS….the Claywalker.

by Holly on Aug 10, 2007 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Clay Travis, I remember him and his buddy Shaw at GW, what a bunch of tool boxes those guys were. In fact I thought they they were b-fing each other for awhile.

by Jack on Aug 10, 2007 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

I’ve been a Hawkeye since you were a clump of goo in Pa Swindle’s manbag. Just because I didn’t go to school there doesn’t make my compulsion any less disturbing.
Elitist.

by jebushchrist on Aug 10, 2007 1:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Jebush—the thought of Pa Swindle’s manbag is revenge enough for our elitism. Holy hell, we must have left that mindbleach around here somewhere…

by Orson Swindle on Aug 10, 2007 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

What, if any, are the taxonomic implications of this category vis a vis that of the “townie?”

by ESMjr. on Aug 10, 2007 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

This has been the most nightmare fuely week ever.

by Holly on Aug 10, 2007 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Screw that. Give me “Meat Market: Inside The Smash-Mouth World Of College Football Recruiting”. I wannasumCoachO tales.

by Allahver Fist on Aug 10, 2007 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

i really shudder to think of what term would describe my own fandom predicament.

by kleph on Aug 10, 2007 1:53 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m motherfucking sick and tired of all these fair-weather bandwagon KU fans across the country.

by PeteJayhawk on Aug 10, 2007 1:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Sorry, Pete.

I didn’t realize Emory/KU daywalkers like myself were legion.

by hoopinion on Aug 10, 2007 1:57 PM EDT reply actions  

#6, someone at EDSBS should hire the writer that came up with the Wednesdays With Ed series last year on one of the Bama forums…

Vol I
Welcome to Coach O’s site and our new feature —

Wednesdays With Ed…

“Woke up buck nekkid this morning. That felt good, so I called over to South Panola and I said “Coach, you got any god-danged players that I ain’t offered yet.” Sumbitch said “No, Coach O!” so I hung up and called Chief Thundercloud Junior High in Minot, North Dakota and before the girl could say “Porcupine Athletics,” I said “I’m offering your whole damn team and I don’t want to wait on ‘em to graduate, neither, I want their little war-whoopin’ tomahawk-slingin’ butts here this spring and ready to whup some Starkville ass.” Then I hung up. That felt good.

“Went out to the mailbox to get some eggs and somebody had stolen our delivery. There was a little old Lady who looked like Barbara Bush (Editor’s Note: The Bushes are dear friends of Dennis and Kim Franchione) and I figured she’d stole ‘em, so I kneed her a few times in the solar plexus and back-slapped her in the false teeth. Then Mrs. O yelled out ’Ed, honey, they don’t put eggs in the mailbox here, that’s back in Louisiana.’ So I helped the old lady up, offered scholarships to her 12 grand-kids and went back inside.

“I was still starvin’, though, so I put on some gym shorts (per the terms of my contract with Ole Miss, I had to) and a pair of flip-flops and headed downtown to Smitty’s. Went through the hole in the fence around the yard. Every damn fence I build has a hole in it. Anyway, went to Smitty’s, kicked the door open and yelled “any damn Starkvillers in here can just head on back to Brokeback Mountain right now.” Everybody in the place said “Hotty Toddy, O!” so I sat on down, ordered a dozen scrambled and a bottle of green tabasco sauce and head-butted the guy in the next booth.

“The eggs were damn good, so I offered scholarships to every cook and bus-boy in the place. Stopped at the Eli-Mart and bought beer for the coaches’ meeting and headed home.

“That’s all today. Check in Friday for Mrs. O’s Corner, when she talks about some frilly-ass dinner with some University people and gives my favorite recipe for gator-head.”

Be of good cheer…

by NewAZTiger on Aug 10, 2007 1:57 PM EDT reply actions  

No, hoopinion, you’re kosher, it’s the foobaw daywalkers I dislike. I should have clarified, because otherwise the irony is somewhat lost.

by PeteJayhawk on Aug 10, 2007 2:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Some fools are always tryin’ to iceskate uphill…

by irishoutsider on Aug 10, 2007 2:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Leave it to an Iowa fan to ruin my weekend.

Also leave it to an Iowa fan to be a Daywalker. Hey Jebus, I want my goalpost back.

by Brewster Crew on Aug 10, 2007 2:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Cheers for the pass, Pete.

Otherwise I’m afraid I’d have to recount my experiences during the Bob Valesente years to prove my bona fides.

The irony of bandwagon Jayhawk football fans was not lost. What a sad creature that would be.

by hoopinion on Aug 10, 2007 2:07 PM EDT reply actions  

I attended a small division III libral arts school-im no fucking daywalker

by mp on Aug 10, 2007 2:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Question: Is it acceptable to be a fan of a college team that you lived 20 minutes from during your youth but moved half-way across the country before you where able to enroll in college (stupid parents and jobs and stuff)?

by Rusty Shackleford on Aug 10, 2007 2:08 PM EDT reply actions  

So, a person that is a bandwagon fan is like a virus, switching hosts , and abandoning the bodies as they fall? Just like Nomac?
Sorry for the Blade geekery, the only reason I know that name is because a co worker looked just like that guy from Blade 2.
Signed,

Scalz1 – Michigan Daywalker since 1975.

by Scalz1 on Aug 10, 2007 2:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Daywalkers . . . the definition of the University of Miami fan base.

by Pompano Gator on Aug 10, 2007 2:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Rusty- since I’m in the same boat, along with mp above, I’m going with “Yes.”

by Halleck T. on Aug 10, 2007 2:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Are you still a Daywalker if your favorite team wins so damn much you pick a crummy C-list school to follow also, just for the hell of it?

by panhandler on Aug 10, 2007 2:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Been an Irish fan since I could focus my eyes, but chose to attend Georgetown instead of Notre Dame. Here was the calculus:

Gtown – Bad I-AA football. In Washington, DC.
ND – Goodish I-A football on TV every weekend. In motherf***ing South Bend, IN.

Go Hoyas. (And Irish.) I’ll daywalk on.

by Eirishis on Aug 10, 2007 2:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Aren’t we overdue for a Fulmer Cup update? Last posting there seemed to be overrun w comments by ND daywalkers.

by HeadThief on Aug 10, 2007 2:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m with you, my first memory of football is seeing that winged helmet. I started following Michigan, and no other team could compete(unless you actually count win/losses). Moved to Florida, joined the army = no UM for me.

by Scalz1 on Aug 10, 2007 2:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Notre Dame football should have their very own Daywalker category. They are the Walmart of Daywalkers – a veritable category killer.

Is there a school with more fans that didn’t go to school there than ND? Perhaps UNC or Duke basketball, but they are still behind ND I think.

by Palouse on Aug 10, 2007 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

  1. Miami. Holy everlovin annoying shit, Miami.

by always rebellious on Aug 10, 2007 2:23 PM EDT reply actions  

After reading the Oregeron goodness, my mind got stuck in that gear and I was reading every subsequent post in that voice.

I was entertained.

All the daywalkers in my area are my childhood friends and others that went to LaTech but now tailgate and cheer on the Tigers like they spent 8 years here taking tests drunk and getting franch! toast at Louie’s. Bastards. I am a proud pureblood.

by LSUJoshua on Aug 10, 2007 2:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Nightmare fuel? I was trying to be polite.

by jebushchrist on Aug 10, 2007 2:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Pretty much every non-BCS school will, unfortunately, have a small population of daywalkers on campus pulling for whatever big-time school is nearby at the expense of their own school. When I was an undergrad, the daywalkers would undergo a Kafkaesque transformation between the fall and winter, putting away their ND sweatshirts in time to put on their Indiana U. basketball gear.

There needs to be a term for this particularly weasely form of dual daywanker-, uh, daywalker-dom.

by Papa Lou BSU on Aug 10, 2007 2:27 PM EDT reply actions  

  1. When you get out of Florida and the Southeast, there’s really not alot of Miami daywalkers. I live on the west coast, and there’s virtually none. ND, however, is everywhere.

by Palouse on Aug 10, 2007 2:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Can I get a ruling here?

I CLEP-ed out all of the history and electives I could from Alabama while in the Navy. Then as soon as I was discharged I transferred all those credits to my local school.

Where do I stand, with shades on or in the shadows?

by Bully Vandegraaff on Aug 10, 2007 2:28 PM EDT reply actions  

eeeeeeverybody in texas loves the horns….whether they went to north texas, tcu, or devry. my not be more than nd…but having to live among them makes it every bit as annoying.

by gerry dorsey on Aug 10, 2007 2:28 PM EDT reply actions  

  1. - You can have your shitty goalpost back. We never wanted it anyway. We only took it because we could.

by jebushchrist on Aug 10, 2007 2:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Is it OK if I cheer for Florida because my school has no football?

by Gatorgirl on Aug 10, 2007 2:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Daywalker is a ridiculous term and I do not have time for this shit.

Like Clay Travis, I am a George Washington alum. We have zero college football team. In fact, that was part of the allure. My dad went to Notre Dame (as did my uncle and two cousins) so going to another football school was not happening. True story, my Dad ripped up a brochure from USC when it arrived at our house my senior year of high school.

Now, in addition to rooting for Notre Dame due to Dad, we have both become season ticket holders to UConn games. We live about 20 minutes from the stadium, have been there since it opened in 2003 and, without any tradition whatsover, it does not get as hardcore as us and my friends. So the term daywalker is retarded. Should I have had to gone to UConn, where the dumbasses from high school went, just to be more than a daywalker. Nah, I’ll take the nice degree.

Coach Edsall says UConn will beat Duke on Sept. 1.

by Edsall is God on Aug 10, 2007 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Fuck it! Gatorgirl gave me my escape clause. The school I transferred to didn’t have football. They were a bunch of soccer/ disc golf/ cross country running/ hackey sack kicking motherfuckers.

Thanks Gg!

by Bully Vandegraaff on Aug 10, 2007 2:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Please note that in this terminology, “daywalker” for non-degree fans means degreed fans are “vampires.” Both need blood. But at least daywalkers get to enjoy the rest of the year, perhaps.

by Orson Swindle on Aug 10, 2007 2:43 PM EDT reply actions  

When you attend an “academic” institution that cares little about sports,(Emory!!! Woo Hoo, we got a nationally-ranked volleyball team!!) you have to put your interests in another place. My pilgrimage back home to the World’s Largest Jort Party is one of the biggest events of my year. My only hope is leaving Atlanta for Gainesville as a law student. Daywalker, shit call me a daydreamer.

by BurritoBrosShits on Aug 10, 2007 2:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Ah….this is great and all, but what time is the affirmation due to role in? I need to get well….I’m like a junkie waiting for the the man….you know…getting a little ancey and all……..

by shovel pass on Aug 10, 2007 2:48 PM EDT reply actions  

This might be the best post ever, but there’s different degrees of daywalking. For example, I’d say close to 99% of fans of schools like Ohio State, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Michigan, etc are daywalkers, because those fans didn’t go to college to begin with.

Then you have the segment of people who went to mid-majors and daywalk for schools like the aforementioned few; I advocate castration in order to ensure this trait isn’t passed down to another generation.

As for people who attend football-less schools: what the hell were you thinking? Even MIT has a football team. People who attend football-less schools are as short-sighted as anyone in Florida who plans their wedding on a certain November Saturday.

Oh, and I should note that for those of us with multiple degrees, the hierarchy of allegiance is as follows:

1st: bachelor’s (your true alma mater)
2nd: doctorate (your highest degree)
3rd: master’s (who gives a shit, esp if yours is from Eastern Michigan like me)
4th: associate’s (if you own an associate’s degree, just off yourself now)

by tim in tampa on Aug 10, 2007 2:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Gatorgirl is right. We don’t have foolsball at Emory, and GT and the Falcons are the only thing close. No way I can wear Red and Black and Chan Gailey is an idiot. I have to go with my roots.

by BurritoBrosShits on Aug 10, 2007 2:52 PM EDT reply actions  

  1. 19 I live in Florida, and don’t see many Miami fans north of Ft lauderdale, actually.

by Scalz1 on Aug 10, 2007 2:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Really, there should be a couple of exceptions to this general rule:
1) If you are Catholic, particularly from the midwest or northeast, you are allowed to be a Notre Dame fan, unless you end up attending a rival school (i.e., BC, UMich, Purdue)
2) If you went to a DI-AA (a/k/a “playoff division”) or lower football school, or a non-football school, you are allowed pretty broad latitude in selecting a “BCS division” rooting interest, with primary consideration given to your local team, either current or growing up
3) If you never graduated from high school, you must be either a Tennessee, WVU, or Ohio St. fan (just kidding, just kidding!)

Seeing as I fit into both of the first two categories, I believe I am definitely entitled to a pass for being a Domer homer.

by Cooler Pooper on Aug 10, 2007 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

I cheer for a team other than the one I attended. Yes, my school had football. Unfortunately it was Canadian football. Have you ever seen Canadian college football? If you have then you know why I watch NCAA.

by Go Blue, Eh! on Aug 10, 2007 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

As someone who attended GW but root in football for UConn and ND, I would never, ever, ever, ever root against GW in basketball. That would be ridiculous. I like UConn basketball but to root against my alma mater in a sport would be sacreligious.

People who went to schools like Bowling Green but root for Ohio State should received the death penalty.

by Edsall is God on Aug 10, 2007 3:00 PM EDT reply actions  

“As for people who attend football-less schools: what the hell were you thinking?”

exactly…every daywalker has an excuse. hell the football program is the exact reason i chose my school.

by gerry dorsey on Aug 10, 2007 3:00 PM EDT reply actions  

That’s bullshit Tim, some of us got scholarships or had other incentives to go where we went. I thought I could live without football, but boy was I wrong. What’s even more rediculous is that there is a segment of the population that doesn’t care about college football as we do. Guess what, they’re all at my place and almost all of the are from NY/NJ/South Florida. Who knew?

by BurritoBrosShits on Aug 10, 2007 3:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Why I pull for UVa and AM NOT a daywalker…

BGS History, Chaminade University of Honolulu (no football)

MS Education (Masters Lite), Old Dominion University (football coming!)

12 SH in Gifted Education, UVa; middle stepson is a ’Hoo, Charlottesville is a glorious town, orange is my favorite color!

by Ed on Aug 10, 2007 3:02 PM EDT reply actions  

i thought a daywalker was a ginger kid who doesn’t have freckles

by lieutenant winslow on Aug 10, 2007 3:05 PM EDT reply actions  

My father went to a military academy and met my mother who attended a nearby college. Together, they paid for their three sons to go to Michigan for undergrad. All three boys went to other graduate schools schools on our own dime. Seeing how between tuition and lodging and the like he and his wife likely spent 6 figures on his boys’ UM education, can a get a ruling on my father please – daywalker or no?

by maskedavenger on Aug 10, 2007 3:05 PM EDT reply actions  

To clarify, my dad went to the Coast Guard academy, not to Army, Navy, Air Force, Citadel, etc. He even played football for Otto Graham, but I digress.

by maskedavenger on Aug 10, 2007 3:08 PM EDT reply actions  

i would submit that lifelong devotion to a team, regardless of college choice, is at least as powerful a phenomenon as a relationship with a school that begins when you’re 18.

if you steep in a fan environment (particularly in a small-to-medium sized town with no pro sports) for your entire formative years, that’s got to count for something. they cancel school for homecoming, for chrissakes.

now, if you grew up in a college town and than also attended that college, you’d be some kind of supervampire. not to mention a pathetic loser, probably.

by ESMjr. on Aug 10, 2007 3:12 PM EDT reply actions  

can a get a ruling on my father please – daywalker or no?

That’s an interesting point, and I would argue parents who attended non-football schools should cheer for their son/daughter’s alma maters. My parents attended a D-III school while my brother and I went to Ohio, so despite my father’s MA at Eastern Michigan and mom’s BGSU Ph.D they fly a Bobcat flag.

It can get complicated, though. My uncle played football for Xavier (no more football) and he sent my cousins to OSU and Michigan. I’m pretty sure he cheers for OSU, which is kind of an abomination.

by tim in tampa on Aug 10, 2007 3:12 PM EDT reply actions  

I think all of these comments assume Dyaywalker is an insult… not necessarily true. It just simply is what it is. Now, to a fan base, to many daywalkers relative to vampires, that might have a certain value judgment involved.

by Stranko Montana on Aug 10, 2007 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Orson – in Blade, didn’t the daywalker kill all the vamps? Shit! I’m multi-degreed from the Univ of SoCar.

by Out of Conference on Aug 10, 2007 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

[i] It can get complicated, though. My uncle played football for Xavier (no more football) and he sent my cousins to OSU and Michigan. I’m pretty sure he cheers for OSU, which is kind of an abomination.[/i]

Heretic !!!

by Scalz1 on Aug 10, 2007 3:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Down here in the Yellowhammer State, bama daywalkers (of which there are legion) are affectionately referred to as “dirt road alumni” or “sidewalk alumni”.

by HFS on Aug 10, 2007 3:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Back in the day, these types were referred to as subway alumni. If you grow up near a big football school, you can claim allegiance legitimately, but your forfeit it if you attend another football school. Similar rules apply for parents attending a school. This is all spelled out in the social contract.

The arguments for being a Notre Dame fan if you didn’t go there are weak. Just because you go to Mass twice a year and one of your grandparents was Irish doesn’t entitle you to bask in the reflected glory of a football past you cannot remember because you weren’t even alive. Northeast Pennsyltucky is full of such characters.

Also, if the Irish Catholic card is going to be played, why not adopt Boston College? They have won a bowl game in this century. Since 1994, Notre Dame has exactly the same number of bowl wins as Georgetown, Holy Cross and Villanova.

by WFY on Aug 10, 2007 3:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Are those of us on faculty given an exemption to root for our students, even if we didn’t attend the university at which we’re teaching?

by faculty on Aug 10, 2007 3:20 PM EDT reply actions  

52, what you said.

by PJ from NU in SF on Aug 10, 2007 3:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Stranko @ #54:

a good point.

maybe the value judgment part, and accompanying defensiveness, come from watching legions of trucker-hat-wearing carpetbaggers from NJ and Palm Beach County ruining your favorite school’s good name.

by ESMjr. on Aug 10, 2007 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

#58

very well put.

by gerry dorsey on Aug 10, 2007 3:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Had a business meeting a couple of weeks ago with a a guy who had grown up pulling for Auburn because his mom went there and ending going to Georgia due to scholarship money, tried to walk on at UGA, got injured, stayed and got his degree, and still pulls for Auburn. I was stunned that someone could do that. I say if you get an undergrad degree at a BCS school that allegiance trumps all prior or future allegiances.

by McLovin on Aug 10, 2007 3:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Since 1994, Notre Dame has exactly the same number of bowl wins as Georgetown, Holy Cross and Villanova.

Yes, but its exactly the name number of bowl wins as all of those 3 schools combined. Big difference.

by HFS on Aug 10, 2007 3:38 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m a proud Southern Cal daywalker, but pejoratives are mitigated since I had parents who both taught there at one time or another. I attended a D-III liberal arts school, so let’s just say there wasn’t a lot of football worth watching there. I had to drive an hour to get a D-I fix at Iowa.

Out of curiosity, what’s the ruling on grad school attendees? I was a month away from being a USC grad student until I got a regular day job.

by Signal to Noise on Aug 10, 2007 3:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Do you have to graduate from the school to not be a Daywalker? If not, how many classes do you have to take?

I am a Southern Miss fan, but have no degree from the school. I spent 18 years growing up 10 minutes from Southern Miss with a father who was an alum and obsessed. I chose to go to an Ivy League school for undergrad (so D-IAA football) and then to Duke for law school (the equivilent of D-IAA football — who I am kidding? Duke lost to Richmond last year). But during summers and other times, I actually took about 15 hours at Southern Miss. Where does that fit?

I also have taken a fair number of hours at UConn and Univ. of North Dakota, can I claim those schools as well? (What the hell is my problem, why can’t I like or attend a school with a really good program? Do you get any special points if the school you are obsessed with is not a place like Texas or Notre Dame?)

by Duke Eagle on Aug 10, 2007 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

If you paid your kids tuition at a school, part of that degree is yours. Definitely not a daywalker #50.

by Rusty Shackleford on Aug 10, 2007 3:51 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m pretty sure the gringo with the gold chain, pants at his knees and gang colors that told me to go fuck myself last time I was at the Orange Bowl wasn’t part of the Miami Business School….so, Miami, for Shiva’s sake, Miami is covered in them.

by NoleinTexas on Aug 10, 2007 3:52 PM EDT reply actions  

I went to high school in the suburbs of Syracuse, attended a division III school, and lived in upstate NY for a few years before moving to SoCal. So I follow the Orange, even in the depressing post-McNabb footbal era. At least there’s basketball :).

by Dave on Aug 10, 2007 3:56 PM EDT reply actions  

A question on Daywalker Status:

I went to one D1A institution for undergraduate work; I went to another for graduate school; I taught American Government to freshmen at a third. Which, if any of these schools, would it be appropriate to cheer for, without crossing the line into Daywalker status?

School 1 is the longest time spent at one of the locations; its also the worst of the 3 schools in football. School 2 is my childhood team, and is a nationally prominent program (at least of late); School 3 is a mid-level sort, but actually paid me money and used it to foster a sense of misplaced feduciarily inspired loyalty.

What’s the answer for this fan?

by Will on Aug 10, 2007 3:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Grew up in a suburb of Syracuse. Had season football tickets to Syracuse. Mom teaches at Syracuse. Applied and got in to Syracuse. Could have gone there for the grand total of zero dollars (thanks to Mom). Went to GW (like Clay). Why? Because it’s fucking Syracuse.

by Bonesy on Aug 10, 2007 3:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Is it safe to say that if you went to a school without football that you are not a daywalker or something else entirely?

by BurritoBrosShits on Aug 10, 2007 4:06 PM EDT reply actions  

#40, I agree. Undergrad (Florida) will always be my first allegiance. Still root for my master’s school (WSU), and fortunately they never play each other.

Sidenote: Has anyone noticed the WSU flag that’s at every College Gameday show? There’s been some other schools jumping on that bandwagon, but it was started by some WSU alums.

What about your spouse’s school? If they are not a rival of your school, is it okay to root for them?

by Palouse on Aug 10, 2007 4:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Boise State will take all the Daywalkers we can get outside of The Great State of Idaho.

This coming from a proud Bronco Alum and fan.

by Blue Turf on Aug 10, 2007 4:11 PM EDT reply actions  

No. 29, too right. We had lots of UT and A&M “fans” at TCU in the mid-’90s. That has changed, from what I understand, as the program has experienced success over the last 10 years or so.

I have no problem with the fan who grew up loving UT/ND/Michigan/whomever but went to a D-III school or someplace like that for whatever reason and still loves the big program. I do have more of a problem with the fan who attends one 1-A football school but still loves another. And the biggest problem with daywalkers is that 90 percent of them (although probably very, very few of the ones here) are just bandwagon fans who cheer for winners.

by Boston Frog on Aug 10, 2007 4:11 PM EDT reply actions  

i personally, don’t think you have to be an alum or current student or whatever to root for a college football team

i’ve been a michigan fan my whole life and although i never went to the university (i chose to go to a small private college on scholarship, rather than to a big university) i consider myself to be as big of a wolverines fan as any alum, student, etc.

yes my school had a football team but i could give a rat’s ass about div. III college team. when the fighting scots were taking the field i was cracking open some cold ones and watching the wolverines.

by Jim Harbaugh Scramble on Aug 10, 2007 4:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Wil at #70 – whichever one is SoCar is the one you root for, although if I’m tryiong to fit your description of school #2 to SoCar, I may be stretching things a bit.

by Out of Conference on Aug 10, 2007 4:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Well #52, I not only was born in Titletown, I have my BA & JD from UF and I now work for UF. Pathetic loser? Perhaps, but not because of my SuperVampira status with UF…

by g8rslm on Aug 10, 2007 4:16 PM EDT reply actions  

No. 74,

Oh, yeah. Any daywalkers in the Dallas-Fort Worth area who want to support a top-25 program but still get reasonably priced tickets to games should absolutely come to Fort Worth. We welcome you with open arms. Everybody looks good in purple.

by Boston Frog on Aug 10, 2007 4:18 PM EDT reply actions  

You make “daywalker” sound so dirty. I grew up in Arkansas. Three prior generations of my family went to Arkansas. I have been calling the Hogs since I was a wee babe. I went to football camp in Fayetteville every year I could once I was old enough to go. However, we moved to MI the summer before my senior year of high school and I hadn’t the size nor SPEED (nor skill) to even consider being a walk-on at an SEC school so I went to a 1-aa school to play ball (before transferring a few times and finally graduating from Central Michigan). I cheer for my Chippewas every week, but why should I have to feel dirty about my true love, the Razorbacks? Take you “daywalker” and shove it Swindle!

by Jerkwheat on Aug 10, 2007 4:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Jerkwheat, you can take your revenge out in Merc 2. Might I recommend car bombing me just as your custom airstrike lands on my head?

by Orson Swindle on Aug 10, 2007 4:20 PM EDT reply actions  

For everybody who pleads the ‘went to a better school but root for team X since the day I was born,’ that’s no excuse- a book is the same no matter what library it’s in. So dammit, accept your daywalker status and know that the true born and bred never had to make a decision because there never was a choice of where to go to school.

by italiangator on Aug 10, 2007 4:23 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s a 360 I’m going to have to buy to make this happen, right? Although, I went to a Playstation college so I might not be allowed to own a 360…

by Jerkwheat on Aug 10, 2007 4:26 PM EDT reply actions  

An Iowa fan a daywalker? No f’n way!

I swear to god, 90% of Hawk fans are daywalkers and they’re always the obnoxious ones who yell (and throw beer bottles) at anyone wearing Cyclone gear in Iowa City.

by wilbur on Aug 10, 2007 4:37 PM EDT reply actions  

I grew up 20 minutes SW of Gville, earned a BA and MBA from UF, and now live 20 minutes NW of Gville. (Had a full scholarship to FSU out of high school but decided to go to SFCC instead): I am the King of the Damned!

What would you call someone who was one of the biggest Gator fans until their oldest son went to FSU, at which point he, along with the rest of the family, became hardcore nole fans and Gator haters. My childhood neighbors actually did this.

by RedRoot on Aug 10, 2007 4:53 PM EDT reply actions  

I respectfully submit that the whole “daywalker” term lacks all credibility.

Both schools I went to as an undergrad (VCU, then South Carolina), I did because of 1) academics and 2) in-state tuition status. I hadn’t lived in the state of Alabama in 11 years, so there was about zero chance of me going to the Capstone.

For Jebus’ sake, I left the ’04 Carolina-Georgia game so I could watch Bama play Ole Miss on ESPN.

Why don’t we step outside and measure our fangs?

by Newspaper Hack on Aug 10, 2007 4:53 PM EDT reply actions  

There are tons of Bama Daywalkers. Occasionally these type posts come up on the Rivals message board and the rift is hysterical.

by Kecalf Bailey on Aug 10, 2007 4:56 PM EDT reply actions  

I live in the epicenter of daywalker fans – Memphis, Tn. Just to the south, we have Ole Miss daywalkers in Desoto County, Ms. Just to the west we have Arkansas daywalkers in Crittenden Co, Ar. The majortiy of west Tenn is covered up in Vol daywalkers. Sadly, most of the Univ of Memphis grads are some kind of SEC daywalkers, except of course, during basketball season.

by TinyTerryTaterTot on Aug 10, 2007 5:10 PM EDT reply actions  

I have to ask, is there an inverse of this phenomenon, where one chooses their college football team when they are, say eight years old, and then does everything they can to make sure they got into said school when they are a high school senior?

I’m not saying it was my only reason for wanting to go to Michigan, but it certainly didn’t hurt the cause.

by Craig Barker (Yostal) on Aug 10, 2007 5:14 PM EDT reply actions  

italiangator @ 82:

the whole “a book is the same no matter what library it’s in” argument actually works better on a metaphorical level against your point.

by ESMjr on Aug 10, 2007 5:38 PM EDT reply actions  

I attend the University of Alabama………..in Huntsville. No football, but we got hockey!! Seeing as it is a part of (or at least once was) the U of A system, does that count as something?

Even if it doesn’t, I don’t care. I’m a proud BAMA daywalker. Auburn fans always give us a hard time about how most of the BAMA fans are sidewalk alumni and that there are few Auburn sidewalk alumni. I always answer with this:

 So you’re taking pride in the fact that your team/school is so unattractive that approximately 70-75% of the people that have no affiliation to either school whatsoever choose BAMA over Auburn.

by your crimson daddy on Aug 10, 2007 5:51 PM EDT reply actions  

  1. - You can leave god out of this. To your point, yes, you’re right, 90% of Iowa fans are obnoxious beer bottle chucking daywalkers. But the thing is, it’s not the Cyclone gear we hate, Wilbur, it’s you. We all hate you.

by jebushchrist on Aug 10, 2007 5:56 PM EDT reply actions  

The thing is, if you root for an SEC school (except Vandy) or any other big-time BCS program, then the majority of your fans are daywalkers. You think they’re gonna put 100,000 alumni into those seats on Saturdays?

by your crimson daddy on Aug 10, 2007 6:04 PM EDT reply actions  

The thing is, if you root for an SEC school (except Vandy) or any other big-time BCS program, then the majority of your fans are daywalkers.

Hence why the MAC is such a great conference.

by tim in tampa on Aug 10, 2007 6:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Signal To Noise – you’re not a daywalker if you went to grad school there. You still have a connection. I went to a D-II school for undergrad and USC for law school, and I’m an unabashed USC homer.

by The Humanitarian on Aug 10, 2007 6:50 PM EDT reply actions  

#93, 94 – sirs, the day shall come when we cash in our Standard Oil bonds and purchase a small state’s worth of daywalkers to bolster the ranks of our rooters.

Although probably not, because we would have done it by now.

(goes back to miserably bracing himself for the conference opener)

by VandyJ on Aug 10, 2007 6:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Out of Conference: No, none of the teams involved are a USC E or USC W.

Conference wise, it’s a Sun Belt, an SEC, and a CUSA thing.

by Will on Aug 10, 2007 6:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Jeez, I’m screwed. The tiny Benedictine Liberal Arts College I went to is out of business. Prep School only these days.

My Dad went to school in Korea in the early 50’s, if you get my drift.

Do I have to become an NFL fan now?

by jaybuzz on Aug 10, 2007 8:00 PM EDT reply actions  

I meant “I swear to Jebus”. There, now god’s out of it.

Anyway, the beer bottles in Iowa City story is true. It happened to a friend of mine and she’s hot. Who the fuck would throw beer bottles at a girl?

And in Ames, I was walking down the street one time with two friends and a lone Hawkeye fan tried to pick a fight w/ me. 3 on 1. Hawks got balls, I’ll give you that.

by wilbur on Aug 10, 2007 8:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I wasn’t stupid enough to wear Cyclone colors in Iowa City. Yeah, I’m afraid.

by wilbur on Aug 10, 2007 8:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Dang, Wilbur. It took you 3 clarifications and 2 comments to explain 1? At least now you know why we hate you.
Fucking Cyclones.

by jebushchrist on Aug 10, 2007 8:15 PM EDT reply actions  

  1. - gotcha. Maybe if I ever re-apply and get in to J-school there again, I’ll shed my daywalker status. But my student loans from undergrad say “not bloody likely.”

by Signal to Noise on Aug 10, 2007 8:38 PM EDT reply actions  

italiangator @ 82:

Your point will be valid in my case as soon as Washington State University has an aerospace engineering program.

by Erik on Aug 10, 2007 10:06 PM EDT reply actions  

  1. 66

Under grad Ivy League and Law School at Duke….you my friend, I am sure, can root for just about anyone you damn well please.

by shovel pass on Aug 10, 2007 10:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh, the elitism!
Any Domer with a sense of history knows that our school’s status was achieved with the help of the Irish “subway alumni” who are pretty much as much a part of the school as those with degrees (like myself). I attended because my grandfather and mother were subway alumni. As if Auburn, USC, Michigan or even Florida could support their programs based on the support of alumni alone. I do agree with the rule above – if you didn’t attend another BCS school, you remain free to choose from any other program. Geography should really count as much actual attendance – someone who grows up in the shadow of a program likely has more allegiance (and a better claim to it) than an indifferent student who took classes there. After all, residents statewide pay taxes to support the (public) university. Shouldn’t they at least be able to cheer for its team?

by Zona on Aug 10, 2007 11:11 PM EDT reply actions  

#40

I was declined buy UF, but accepted by FSU and UNF. I decided I could not become one of those “FSU people declined by UF who decided to become an FSU fan” and went to UNF (football-less school). Hopefully I’ll get to go to UF for my major. And I’d just like to clarify that I’ve been a UF fan forever, growing up watching them kicking bulldog ass.

by Gatorgirl on Aug 11, 2007 12:18 AM EDT reply actions  

I am a total and complete ND daywalker/subway alum. I’ll admit it. Hell, I’m proud of it. My family have been Notre Dame fans since forever, but I’m headed to Creighton. ND loved my ACT, but not my GPA so much. :) So off I go to a non-football school. I’m fairly close to a couple other big football schools, so I can still get my game day fix. (and I’m fairly close to Ames, and nothing is as sweet as Cyclone pain)

by Mike on Aug 11, 2007 1:36 AM EDT reply actions  

sorry Jebus. I would’ve gone to Iowa if they’d had a respectable engineering program (or undergrad in general), but I had to settle for Iowa State. You daywalker motherfucker!!!!!! (I still like your blog though)

Mike, I completely fucking hate you right in your face. How can you take pleasure in the pain of an underdog you sadist?

For the record, I’m a Notre Dame daywalker even though I have close ties to that university. Yeah I know this just ruined any chance at sympathy from the masses.[/drunk]

by wilbur on Aug 11, 2007 1:59 AM EDT reply actions  

BY this definition Coach Meyer and Coach Saban should not be fans of there respectful Schools.
Well shit I knew there was something wrong here.

I have been on my own since I was fifteen and had to work so I could even get thru Highschool. Self educated and now VP of my company I can be a fan of any school I choose. And if and when I become comfoprtable enough that I can quit ,I will and attend my beloved University of Alabama.
So if need be call me daywalker if you like.
But don’t think your any better than me because your daddy paid for your way to drink and sleepwalk through six years at a University somewhere far from home.
In short FU you arrogant little pricks.
Get it ….FU…….UF….
Sorry to sound so serious…
CFball means so much to me….

by CHARLIE MURPHY on Aug 11, 2007 8:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Miami University welcomes daywalkers of any variety. Unfortunately, we need ’em to replace the minority of kids on campus who will forgo a beautiful fall Saturday at Yager Stadium to watch the goddamn Buckeyes on TV.

Both Papa Lou and the commenter at #45 hit the nail on the head. The gene pool needs to be cleansed of such folks.

(FWIW, I manage to pull off secondary — grad school — rooting interests in both Ivy League and Duke football, so I don’t know what #66 is bitching about.)

by DevilGrad on Aug 11, 2007 9:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Charlie I think its fair to say that Coach Saban is not a fan of his respective school. He does not have time for that shit.

by JoesDeliGatorTail on Aug 11, 2007 9:33 AM EDT reply actions  

And what about that special subset of Daywalkers – the Daywalkers that attended a rival university…

I.E. the Auburn Fan that went to Alabama or the Alabama fan that went to Auburn.

What shall we call this type of daywalker?

by NewAZTiger on Aug 11, 2007 9:57 AM EDT reply actions  

I thought the term was “T-shirt Fan”, i.e. their only connection to the school was the T-shirt they bought at the gas station or Wal-Mart. OU and UT varieties are predominant here in North Texas.

by Raider Red on Aug 11, 2007 12:01 PM EDT reply actions  

When my brother was at Michigan State, some jerkwad in one of his classes was a UM fan. The kid was a full time, card-carrying MSU student. He didn’t transfer in to MSU or anything like that either. Still he went around wearing his Meecheegan gear, talking about the Wolverines all the time and saying “we” during said discussions. That, my friends, is a day walker.

by macker on Aug 11, 2007 12:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Wilbur – I think based on the multitude of your ridiculous comments in this thread you can lose the drunk tag. Before your glorious run here, I didn’t think it was possible to make so many idiotic statements in such a short time. You were somehow able to clumsily tie together your jealousy of Iowa, your association with Iowa State, and your lust for Notre Dame. That’s a nice piece of work right there. You had a great run, brother, time to hang it up.
Now go build a flying car or something, fucking engineer.
CHOOCHOO!!!

by jebushchrist on Aug 11, 2007 12:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Orson…..Do I like this website? Yes. Have you lost some cool points with me? Yes. Will I stop reading your site? No.

-1 Cocktail to you sir. And consider yourself lucky. The punishment may be more severe next time.

by cbs5090 on Aug 11, 2007 1:32 PM EDT reply actions  

will i ask myself questions? yes.

by hothothot on Aug 11, 2007 2:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Wilbur, I grew up in WDM, and I’m sorry but there’s nothing more annoying then ‘Clone delusions and bipolarity. Every August, "We’re gonna win it all! We’re gonna destroy Iowa and take the Big 12!", then every November, “We’re so terrible, we’re so awful, fire the coach!” It’s like Bama fans, but without any history to back it up.

Now, I have a whole host of other issues with Iowa fans. (Seriously, Drew Tate was one of the best QBs you guys have ever seen, and you treated him worse than UF fans treated Chris Leak) But ’Clones are the worst.

by Mike on Aug 11, 2007 8:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Orson – damn, that bitch Samantha on the Travel Channel that travels the world doesn’t have shit on the reach you have… an Iowa – Iowa State threadjack rivaly going 107+ posts deep on a UofF website! Hats off to you, brother. I can just see the gnome on travelocity asking to the be the midget in your suitcase.

by Out of Conference on Aug 11, 2007 9:10 PM EDT reply actions  

You’re gonna find this hard to believe, but Messiah College (not home to the Fightin’ Christies, Bill Maher) does not have a football team. Something about Mennonite-inspired pacifism, I suppose.

by Ted Ginn did Everythin' on Aug 11, 2007 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

  1. Redroot: Crucifixion’s too good for your former neighbors.
  1. Gatorgirl: Keep hope alive. I salute your integrity.

by Mr. Wrong on Aug 11, 2007 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Two things:
1) I knew a guy who played football at Auburn, yet still pulled for Alabama even after graduation. That is pretty intense.
2) I fucking hate Samantha Brown.

by Kecalf Bailey on Aug 12, 2007 1:01 AM EDT reply actions  

I knew a guy that went to Georgia but was a huge Auburn fan. On the day before his graduation he went to the rec center, took a crap in the showers and wrote WAR EAGLE on the walls with his own excrement.

Actually, I did that.

by dannybonadouchey on Aug 12, 2007 2:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Re 122:

It’s not news to anyone here that Auburn fans use their own feces to communicate.

by PW on Aug 12, 2007 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

RE: 123
It’s a shame your post came so late in this thread, because it was AWESOME

by Rob G on Aug 12, 2007 4:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Man I am disappointed I missed this post when it was active. Too bad Zona (#105 = great post) did as well. Normally I would dismiss the inherent insult to a large part of CFB’s, and THIS BLOG’s, fan base as good humored verbal slap fighting. So I would have ignored this elitist shite if it were not for strankos defense (#54 below).

“I think all of these comments assume Dyaywalker is an insult… not necessarily true. It just simply is what it is. Now, to a fan base, to many daywalkers relative to vampires, that might have a certain value judgment involved.”

Bullshit! There are sooo many things wrong with your half assed defense.

1. By classifying them as different you naturally would assume it would be taken by those that fall into the classification as a summation of value of their fandom and therefore an insult. If you did not expect this, then you are very callous.

2. How the hell do you state the classification of ‘daywalker’ is not an insult, then imply it as such the NEXT SENTANCE? Implying a program with a high percentage of daywalkers vs. vampires inherently implies daywalkers to be undesirable.

3. In the context of the analogy a daywalker is one that is not wholly vampire, or ‘one of us’. This analogy, therefore, implies a degree of fandom (in this case half) and is a value judgment.

by tzubear on Aug 12, 2007 10:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Stupid Daywalker.

Us Skywalkers have the force, you just have the T-shirt.

by NewAZTiger on Aug 12, 2007 11:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Re 122:

1) Another reason not to shake hands with Auburn fans

2) Auburn-Love, the love that dare not speak its name
in Athens, GA.

3) Seriously, think about what an ass-hat this guy is.

4) More seriously, where is the “rec center” you homo? They all have names of prominent administrators and donors, and that is how “we” (Georgia alums that also happen to be fans of the sports teams) call them. What sick mind makes up this kind of crap? Oh wait, it is an Auburn fan.

by Red pants > Orange underwear on Aug 13, 2007 11:05 AM EDT reply actions  

I guess I qualify as a “Daywalker” as I bleed Hawkeye black and gold despite going to Georgetown and W&L. Does it redeem me that approximately 20 family members went to Iowa and I grew up there?

And an entire post and 120+ comments about Daywalkers and not one mention of Dan Shanoff? That can’t be right.

by HoyaGoon on Aug 13, 2007 12:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I went to a prominent football factory school but did not graduate. Later transferred to a Sun Belt school one step above junior college, where I earned a bachelor’s and an MBA.

My wife graduated from Vandy. I’m as hardcore of a Vandy fan as they come. If that makes me a daywalker, then so be it. I find that most daywalkers wind up rooting for SUCCESSFUL football programs.

by doreblogger on Aug 13, 2007 1:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Although some have rightfully pointed out that Miami doesn’t have a lot of fans, the fact remains that their entire fanbase is dominated by daywalkers. For that there has to be some sort of prize.

by FishFan-GatorMan on Aug 13, 2007 3:55 PM EDT reply actions  

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