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ZE BIG TWELEVEN DETESTS YOUR FEEBLE MATH

Jim Delany of the Big Ten, normally referred to around here as "dikfase" (SEC grad, sorry,can't spell but that won't surprise you, right Jim?) has numerous irons in the fire at the moment.


And now, my stunning version of "Hustlin'" by Rick Ross.

First he's busy ramming the Big Ten Network (The BTN, which looks like "Bitten") through the mouthroofs of cable providers everywhere. Brian's got a fascinating piece of actual journalism (shock faint revive wow!) on the process from the cable providers' perspective, which in person seems ever so reasonable and fair: cable providers don't think the slate of games the Bitten would be putting on is deserving of a sports niche outside of basic cable.

They instead want the Bitten to be classified as a "regional sports network," much like CSS here in the greater Southeast. Here we begin to see some real regional deviation: part of the brouhaha surrounding this is that the Big Ten has fought for making this a premium channel due to regional interest, even with a substandard slate of games.

Lost in this is the consumer voice, which we're guessing is uniformly against paying any more than they have to to see second-tier Big Ten games on an expensive channel. It's money--people hate to spend it if they don't have to.

Now transfer this to the South, where we know for a fact that die hard Alabama fans would phone in all variety of nefarious threats to get a game on television. Serious, horrible threats. We imagine this very conversation happening by region:

Comcast Customer Support: Hello?

Angry Iowa fan: I can't get the damn game on.

CCS: You'll have to write the Big Ten to voice your displeasure.

AIF: You're damn right I will. (Goes, immediately writes letter and mails.)

And this exchange from hundreds of miles south:

CCS: Hello?

Angry LSU fan: GODDAMN I CAIN'T GET DA GAME ON HYAH!!!

CCS: Sir, please calm down.

ALSUF: I WILL SET YOUR CAT ON FIRE AND THROW IT INTO A VAT OF KEROSENE I HAVE IMMERSED YOUR ENTIRE DAMN HOUSE INTO WOMAN GIMME MAH FOOTBAW!!!


Youuuu did whut?

Secondly, Delany's floating the expansion of the Big Televen to twelve teams after they "build value" in the existing brand. Possible snags include Syracuse and Rutgers, though Rutgers seems like the more obvious grab thanks to the proximity to the all-important ESPN sports scrotum in Bristol. (Though Syracuse's basketball value is not to be denied as a strong attractor here.)

With that change, the Big Ten goes from being slightly off as an eleven team conference to being drastically misnamed as a 12 name conferences. We now suggest the following replacements for the name "Big Ten" for no fee whatsoever:

--The Increasingly Inaccurately Named Big Ten by Douglas Adams.

--Off Tackle Right: The Conference

--The Big 12. Fuck 'em. Let 'em sue. We'll see who's more "twelve" than the other.

--El Grande Diez! Massive potential outreach in growing Latin demographic.

--Tha Bigg 10+6-4. Reachout to urban demographic is undeniable.

--The Billy Ocean Conference. Why the hell not? That shit is smooooooth. And it's not like he's using the name. Listen to "Suddenly" and try to deny the silky sounds of a conference with that name.

--"The SEC." Will help nail down those pesky national title game slots in years with multiple one-loss teams. Also interchangeable with "The Pac-10."

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The Big Ten, Assuming an Extremely Large Value of Ten, Conference.

Mmm… math nerd joke…

by Dave on Jul 26, 2007 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

How about the

“We Have Really Great Business Schools” Conference

by Dave on Jul 26, 2007 3:32 PM EDT reply actions  

This is getting creepy. The Gophers are really going to love traveling out to Syracuse -

Every football season the cable company would (like clockwork) “experience difficulties” during key PSU games and/or bowl games – every January my father would call up and cancel the HBO to “punish” the culprits. Every June he would reorder the HBO so Mother and I could watch the early rounds at Wimbledon.

by PSUgirl on Jul 26, 2007 3:34 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s just a simple matter of changing “Big Televen” to “Big Twelven”.

Also, fuck Jim Delany.

by Run Up The Score on Jul 26, 2007 3:35 PM EDT reply actions  

The math joke was by different a “Dave”…I apologize for it on behalf of Dave’s all over the world

by Dave on Jul 26, 2007 3:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Is that Phillip Micheal Thomas’ stunt double in the video? If so, I imagine the last 25 or so years have been rough job wise.

by lanceharbor on Jul 26, 2007 3:36 PM EDT reply actions  

They could still be the Big Ten if everybody started counting in base 12…

Thanks, I’ll be here all week!

by Rob on Jul 26, 2007 3:38 PM EDT reply actions  

I’ve long been a supporter of adding a team and calling it The Bigger Twelve. Fuckers.

by RedDevilEA on Jul 26, 2007 3:38 PM EDT reply actions  

The Big Ten, in a base twelve system, Conference.

by Unhappy Monkey on Jul 26, 2007 3:40 PM EDT reply actions  

The Really Big Ten?

by Orson Swindle on Jul 26, 2007 3:41 PM EDT reply actions  

P.S. That’s what they use in space, bitches.

by Unhappy Monkey on Jul 26, 2007 3:41 PM EDT reply actions  

The “It’s So Big We’ve Got Two More Than Ten, That’s a Fucking Big” Ten Conference.

by Majorly English on Jul 26, 2007 3:41 PM EDT reply actions  

I prefer going for the drunken German demographic, name it: Der Riesig Zehn!

That way when anyone asks you anything you can yell that at them in German, which is funny all by itself.

Billy Ocean forfeited smooove points by performing “When the going gets tough” with Danny Devito. The presence of Kathleen Turner’s legs is still not enough offset this. Plus, if you watch the video, he looks like Michael Vick.

by Maize n Brew Dave on Jul 26, 2007 3:43 PM EDT reply actions  

The Flyover Conference has a nice ring.

The Big 2 and little 10 Conference is fitting.

The Dirty Dozen…er, maybe that should be reserved for the SEC.

We’re Keeping It as the Big 10, Suck On It! Kinda long, but powerful.

by Biggus Rickus on Jul 26, 2007 3:44 PM EDT reply actions  

PSUgirl, we’ve got an airport. Just think what the Cornbirds from iowa are going to think about that trip. The closest thing they’ve got to an airport is the dirt road that the cropdusters take off from and land on.

A 12 team Big Ten football conference will never work, and I can give 2 reasons why: Michigan and Ohio State. The two choices are: A) Put them in the same conference to play the last game against each other (and one misses out on the $B$i$g$1#1$T$e#n Moneygrab…errr.Championship game or B) They’re in opposite conferences and potentially play against each other 2 weeks in a row.

by Brewster Crew on Jul 26, 2007 3:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh, and

The Higher Academic Standards 12

by Brewster Crew on Jul 26, 2007 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

And Devito could reasonably pass for a short pit bull.

by Out of Conference on Jul 26, 2007 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

The “you can win the titie without playing the best team in the conference because we don’t have a championship game” conference

by Dave on Jul 26, 2007 3:47 PM EDT reply actions  

@Brewster:

We all know that the “higher academic standards” thing only comes from teams that suck. You’re dooming the conference with that name.

by Biggus Rickus on Jul 26, 2007 3:47 PM EDT reply actions  

  1. - B) They’re in opposite conferences and potentially play against each other 2 weeks in a row.

- but it would make Michigan fans happy.

by Out of Conference on Jul 26, 2007 3:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Delaney kind of reminds me of Ed Lauter or that character actor with a little bit more hair (than Ed, not Jim) whose name I don’t know.

by AllWhoYonder on Jul 26, 2007 3:49 PM EDT reply actions  

#20, I’m sure that Michigan fans are doing backflips at the prospect of watching Lloyd get outeverythinged by Captain Sweatervest in consecutive weeks.

The only thing I like about the potential for a moneygrab game is having it at Lambeau Field. (Of course, the Big Ten would fuck that up to and have it at either the Metrodome, RCA Dome, or Ford Field with the roof closed.)

Extra name suggestion: The Big12Eleven

by Brewster Crew on Jul 26, 2007 3:51 PM EDT reply actions  

  1. I was referring to last season in which Wolverine fans thought they deserved a rematch. Not in general. Thatnks for pointing that out.

by Out of Conference on Jul 26, 2007 3:53 PM EDT reply actions  

The Big Slate Gray Sky Conference.

And now let’s name the divisions. I vote Schembechler Division and Clarrett Division.

by Kenny on Jul 26, 2007 3:56 PM EDT reply actions  

You’ll be receiving a tersely worded letter from me in 3 business day you son-of-a-gun.

by jebushchrist on Jul 26, 2007 3:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Name suggestion: The Big [NUMBER REDACTED]. They’re getting better and better!

by Doug on Jul 26, 2007 3:56 PM EDT reply actions  

The “OneTwoThreeFourFive, SixSevenEightNineTen, Eleven,.. Twelve” Conference.

Sing it with me… doodoo dodoo do dooo……

by Whitey on Jul 26, 2007 3:57 PM EDT reply actions  

How about naming it:

“The Big 2 and One Team That Doesn’t Play the Big 2 Conference” Conference.

If you don’t understand it… read every sports writer over the last ten years… “Wisconsin has a chance to go to the national title game b/c OSU and Michigan fall off the schedule this year,” or a few years ago… "Purdue has a great chance of shocking the nation as OSU and Michigan fall off the schedule this year.

I hate the Mediocre 11. Hey, that’s a good name too.

by Cocky on Jul 26, 2007 3:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Delaney’s Dozen? Cause you know he is having so much fun pulling all the college football levers that he his is going to find a way to cheat death so that he can keep in charge. Suck it Bernie Machen.

by maskedavenger on Jul 26, 2007 4:00 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s fun being a Domer and being able to actually tell the Bigteleven to go fuck themselves. With a corncob. Sideways.

by Wooderson on Jul 26, 2007 4:04 PM EDT reply actions  

“Il Dodieci Grande”

The Corn Belt Conference, with Three Yards and Cloud of Dust Divisions

Or better yet: The Snow Tire Conference game of the Week, brought to you by Goodyear!

by Sean on Jul 26, 2007 4:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Megalos IB – Classical.

by Biggus Rickus on Jul 26, 2007 4:05 PM EDT reply actions  

#5: Maybe I should change my name to avoid confusion. Also, I was not the only one to make math jokes (#7, #9), so there.

by Year2-Dave on Jul 26, 2007 4:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Delaney looks and acts like Ted from Scrubs. Just without the kickass acapella group with the guys from accounting, shipping & receiving, and online property management including pest control, nighttime security and non-arboreal garden services.

by Brewster Crew on Jul 26, 2007 4:11 PM EDT reply actions  

“The Big Binary 10: 1010, Bitches! (Because two consecutive tens are better than…one consecutive tens) Conference”

Kinda wordy, but it’s taking it to the next level in a very obscure kind of way, much in the same way that Delaney thinks, I’m sure. Hey Delaney…you got disdik? Disdik, do you have disdik? DO YOU HAVE THIS DICK, MOTHER FUCKER?! DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND ENGLISH?!

by Aerobab on Jul 26, 2007 4:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Michigan, Ohio State and the Ten Dwarves Conference.

by olb on Jul 26, 2007 4:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Don’t call that conference “Big Ten;” call him “shithead.”

by crabs on Jul 26, 2007 4:16 PM EDT reply actions  

“The Big Slow Fat & Pasty 12”

by rtider on Jul 26, 2007 4:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I just mentioned the Gophers because that was one of the big “to do”s when PSU joined the B10 – that there was no geographical affinity between the 2 schools -

I often wonder about BC and Miami.

by PSUgirl on Jul 26, 2007 4:19 PM EDT reply actions  

I once made a Time-Warner customer service lady cry when a ppv game failed to show on my tv….and that was just the Kentucky game…bitches!

by Continuation T. Arranger on Jul 26, 2007 4:19 PM EDT reply actions  

apparently “the hills have eyes” starred a bunch of angry lsu fans.

by gerry dorsey on Jul 26, 2007 4:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Aerobab wins.

by Jeremy on Jul 26, 2007 4:21 PM EDT reply actions  

The Big Ten, Size Twelve

by Allahver Fist on Jul 26, 2007 4:22 PM EDT reply actions  

So what you’re saying is that Jim Delaney “skeet so much they call him Billy Ocean”.

by BDoc on Jul 26, 2007 4:25 PM EDT reply actions  

+1, crabs @ 37

by PW on Jul 26, 2007 4:26 PM EDT reply actions  

rob – now THAT’S a math joke. dave can suck it.

i vote for the Big Sixteen. because delaney obviously thinks everything about the big ten is bigger than it actually is.

by matty blue on Jul 26, 2007 4:26 PM EDT reply actions  

31-

Nah, it’d have to be sponsored by Nokian Tires (tyres?) because Goodyear snows blow nuts in comparison.

How about “The Biggest Goddamn Twelve on the Fucking Planet Conference”

or

“Twelve Angry Coordinators”

or

“Heart (and left testicle)” Conference. You know, because if they pull in Rutgers or ‘Cuse, they’ll be the dingleberry hanging off of the geographic ass of the conference. Kinda like Boston College is to the ACC.

by Chris on Jul 26, 2007 4:35 PM EDT reply actions  

This is one of the best comment threads in a while.

#43… Love the Size 12. Awesome.

by Cocky on Jul 26, 2007 4:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Possible Conference names:
1) The Fridge Pack… its cold and there’s 12 of them!!!
2) Delaney’s Folly.
3) 12… The Conference Formerly known as Ten

Possible Division names:
1) Lakes Division
2) Corn Division
3) Hilljack Division
4) Canada

by Cincy on Jul 26, 2007 4:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Delany sucks. As does Cablevision.

by PSUrob on Jul 26, 2007 4:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Fucking A. 47 was supposed to be “Heart (and left testicle) of America” Conference. I suppose Penn State is out there closer to both of those schools, but that doesn’t make Syracuse any closer to Iowa.

by Chris on Jul 26, 2007 4:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Also, dont forget that just because a conference has 12 teams doesnt mean they are required to hold a championship game.

The lure of continuing to fuck with the rest of college football via crackpot schedules might win out over their simple craving for more money.

by Cincy on Jul 26, 2007 4:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Women be shoppin’. Women be shoppin’ y’all!

WOMEN BE SHOPPIN

by Hook'em Tide on Jul 26, 2007 4:41 PM EDT reply actions  

27 – anytime an obscure Sesame Street reference can be made on a college football website, the people at the Children’s Television Workshop know they have done their job well. 1000 Irish Car Bombs for you sir

by Dave on Jul 26, 2007 4:43 PM EDT reply actions  

How about “Theb Igten” or “Thebi Gten” since they insist on using the name over and over, regardless of its being ripped from its meaning. Or they could just be like Minnesota Mining and Manufacturing, which people now know as 3M – thus, The Big Ten could simply be “TBT” (you know, pronounced like a Bronx cheer.)

by Alces on Jul 26, 2007 4:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed with #48. Threads like these are the reason I refuse to leave my government-sponsored job!

Another suggestion:
Every Conference Should Be Suck My Dick-12
(ECSBSMD-12…I like it!)

by Aerobab on Jul 26, 2007 4:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Dix Gros avec deux autres

by PSUgirl on Jul 26, 2007 4:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Dave/Whitey ~ It may be obscure but that’s the SECOND reference to that song I’ve run across today. The other was at jefitoblog.com/blog, where Jefito today reviews a late-model Pointer Sisters album. That Sesame St. number was my 2d favorite of theirs, behind “Automatic.” (Lyrical genius: “There’s no way to control it. It’s totally automatic.”)

by panhandler on Jul 26, 2007 4:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m a fan of the “Big 10 (base 12) Conference”.

by Chris on Jul 26, 2007 4:55 PM EDT reply actions  

The “Nick Saban Does Not Have Time for This Shit” Conference

by Dave on Jul 26, 2007 4:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Rust Belt Conference
Factory Undercoating Conference K?

by beast in 'bama on Jul 26, 2007 4:57 PM EDT reply actions  

My humble blog covered this hypothetical expansion last month.

by Jeremy on Jul 26, 2007 4:59 PM EDT reply actions  

The Jan Brady Conference

by Paco on Jul 26, 2007 5:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Don’t call that conference "Big Ten;" call him "shithead."

Or maybe the “Special Purpose” Conference.

by Heath on Jul 26, 2007 5:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Is the Midwest Conference in use? Not silly, but effective and good enough.

The Great Big Lakes Conference.
The John Candy Memorial Conference.

by Brian on Jul 26, 2007 5:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Big Tenacious Twelve Team Grouping of Universities’ Athletic Departments Based Upon Region, School Size and Relative Academic Standing or The BTTTGUADBURSSRAS

by Biggus Rickus on Jul 26, 2007 5:12 PM EDT reply actions  

The ten dwarfs went 2-0 against the SEC last bowl season.

by tOSUBuckeyes on Jul 26, 2007 5:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Let’s go back to the original name: The Western Conference. It makes as much sense as “Big 10-11-12”. But I’m OK with #57’s suggestion, and will use it in the future.

Most of you complaining about Big Ten scheduling have no idea how it works in your own conference, much less another. I’d rather see a round-robin schedule, but two rivalry games plus a rotating cast of conference opponents is the next best thing. Otherwise, OSU and UM would never play in Heavenston.

Ford with the roof closed? Feh. Try the UFO that crashed on Soldier Field. It’s a better place for a showcase game. Putting the Big Ten championship in Detroit would be like holding the SEC championship in a modernized Orange Bowl, but with windshield scrapers instead of umbrellas.

And yes, Jim Delany is a dikface.

by PJ from NU in SF on Jul 26, 2007 5:24 PM EDT reply actions  

#18

“The ‘you can win the titie without playing the best team in the conference because we don’t have a championship game’ conference”

Or, you could call it: “The ‘you can win the conference title with 3 conference losses, despite a 31-0 loss to a divisional rival, because (a) said divisional rival is on probation this year, and (b) you get a rematch against another team you lost to during the regular season, because you have a Conference Championship Game,’ conference.” And be like the SEC.

In 2002 LSU became the first ever conference champion, in any conference, in the entire history of college football, to win a conference title with 3 conference losses.

by tOSUBuckeyes on Jul 26, 2007 5:27 PM EDT reply actions  

“The Big Conference,” just enough pretension. With Chicago being the capital of the Big 10 even more so than Atlanta is to the SEC, the Championship game has to be at Soldier Field.

East: Rutgers, Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Indiana
West: Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Northwestern, Purdue

And they better not do geographically meaningless divisions like the ACC did.

by John on Jul 26, 2007 5:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Dang it tosu.

Has the library blocked the pron?

by Spittoon on Jul 26, 2007 5:30 PM EDT reply actions  

I’ll accept the Irish Car Bombs no matter which Dave you are…

by Whitey on Jul 26, 2007 5:30 PM EDT reply actions  

“In 2002 (ACTUALLY 2001) LSU became the first ever conference champion, in any conference, in the entire history of college football, to win a conference title with 3 conference losses.”

And then kicked the ever living shit out of the Big 10 champion in the Sugar Bowl

by Unhappy Monkey on Jul 26, 2007 5:33 PM EDT reply actions  

The Big XII 2: The Big Twelvening.

by Holly on Jul 26, 2007 5:36 PM EDT reply actions  

FSU won a conference title with 3 losses in 2005 via another conference championship game. So yeah, those are really doing us well.

What has conference championship games done for college football other than drum up revenue for the conferences that have them? How have they in any helped determine a national champion?

Cut the conference championships, cut the cup-cake schedules, and schedule meaningful OOC games during the regular season that actually help determine conference strength or just how good teams are.

by tOSUBuckeyes on Jul 26, 2007 5:36 PM EDT reply actions  

  1. You mean played Illinois at home, in the Sugar bowl, right? Fricking Illinois…they went fricking 5-7 and 1-11 the following 2 years, not sure I would use beating that program as a measuring stick, but hey whatever makes you feel good, right?

by tOSUBuckeyes on Jul 26, 2007 5:45 PM EDT reply actions  

The “This Conference Goes to 11” conference.

by lanceharbor on Jul 26, 2007 5:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Speaking of high caloric scheduling, has anyone seen OSU’s slate of OOC games this year?

by Spittoon on Jul 26, 2007 5:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Are the twin’s any relation to Tuberville?

by CHARLIE MURPHY on Jul 26, 2007 5:53 PM EDT reply actions  

  1. - a conference champ is a conference champ. It’s about who’s the best that year, not the following years. That year, Illinois was the Big Ten champion by the framework set up to decide it, so that’s who you’re stuck with for that year. What happened to Illinois in 2002 is irrelevant in 2001, just like Ohio State winning the title in 2002 doesn’t make the 2001 Buckeyes any better.

Also, believe me, LSU’s home field advantage is not what it’s made out to be by a lot of people. While LSU playing in New Orleans helps the Tigers, it’s not a huge difference maker.

by Year2-Dave on Jul 26, 2007 5:53 PM EDT reply actions  

tOSU, That’s right, Illinois, the 10-1 Big 10 Champ, lost only to Michigan, beaten by a 3 loss LSU, which pulled a Number 6 on them and then enjoyed the company of their women folk later on at the Number 6 dance.

The measuring stick is 3 loss SEC champion vs. 1 loss Big 10 champ. Given this, I would propose that your argument in #70 supports the premise that Big 10 system is not superior to the SEC system.

by Unhappy Monkey on Jul 26, 2007 5:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Yup, cut out those schedule fattening cupcakes — LIKE YOUNGSTOWN ST, KENT STATE AND AKRON!

Other than that, your point is valid, osu.

by Big Whammy on Jul 26, 2007 5:57 PM EDT reply actions  

#79

Youngstown state: now with extra sprinkles!

by Rob on Jul 26, 2007 6:02 PM EDT reply actions  

And all this time I thought Subcommandante Wayne was a figment of Orson’s imagination

by Spittoon on Jul 26, 2007 6:06 PM EDT reply actions  

The Big Ten v3.0? Or The Big Ten Vista Edition?

Or they could just start a marketing campaign built around the slogan “Twelve is the New Ten.”

by Doug on Jul 26, 2007 6:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Laugh at our schedule this year, yuck it up, but we played Texas two years in a row, start a series with USC in 08-09, Miami, Fl in 10-11, and VT in 12-13.

by tOSUBuckeyes on Jul 26, 2007 6:12 PM EDT reply actions  

I do love Billy Ocean so.

by YMB on Jul 26, 2007 6:13 PM EDT reply actions  

#84

Not just with sprinkles, how about some cash from the head coach:

http://www.buckeyecommentary.com/files/tressels-pays-forward-again.html

by tOSUBuckeyes on Jul 26, 2007 6:13 PM EDT reply actions  

MAYBE and I’m just saying maybe if the big 11 had a championship game TOSU and UM wouldn’t go to big bowl games all the time and get beat down.
Check their bowl records and you will see what I mean.

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/bigten/ohio_state/bowl_history.php

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/bigten/michigan/bowl_history.php

by CHARLIE MURPHY on Jul 26, 2007 6:14 PM EDT reply actions  

#82

If memory serves, 2001 (2002 bowl season) was a down year for the Big Ten; insert bias big ten hate joke here fuckers; with Penn State and Wisconsin sucking ass, and Michigan, Ohio State, and Illinois all losing bowl games to the SEC.

2002 was slightly better for the big ten with Wisconsin beating Colorado; Minnesota beating Arkansas; Purdue beating Washington; Michigan beating Florida and Ohio State beating Miami for the National Championship.

by tOSUBuckeyes on Jul 26, 2007 6:21 PM EDT reply actions  

  1. 82

I would never suggest that anything big ten related be superior to anything SEC related…I know better.

by tOSUBuckeyes on Jul 26, 2007 6:23 PM EDT reply actions  

How about the “Geographically Close to Notre Dame Conference.” They’ve always wanted to have us in their conference, at least this way they have us in their name.

by akaRonMexico on Jul 26, 2007 6:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Gofer rodents shouldn’t be disparaging any team or neighboring states. Their program is in shambles, they play in a barn and they are one of those cupcakes with sprinkles for teams like OSu to devour. Twin Cities may have an airport, but it also has more bums and panhandlers per capita than any city in the Midwest. A very “diverse” community full of rodent lovers.

by Big Whammy on Jul 26, 2007 6:45 PM EDT reply actions  

How about..

The Big 13 minus Notre Dame because they told us to get fucked Conference

by domerva on Jul 26, 2007 6:50 PM EDT reply actions  

The Humpty-Dome: The only home venue that ever lost a goalpost to the visiting fans!

Call the Big 10-11-12 what you want. Just give me Big 10 football. We don’t accept no Vandys, Kentuckys, Orgerons and Sylvesters in our conference.

by Big Whammy on Jul 26, 2007 6:50 PM EDT reply actions  

I know it’s late in the game, but what about the Illegal Participation and/or Illegal Substitution Conference?

by Tater Salad on Jul 26, 2007 6:51 PM EDT reply actions  

  1. says: “Call the Big 10-11-12 what you want. Just give me Big 10 football. We don’t accept no Vandys, Kentuckys, Orgerons and Sylvesters in our conference.”

Okay then, explain Northwestern, Indiana, and Illinois.

by Year2-Dave on Jul 26, 2007 6:57 PM EDT reply actions  

@#97, And we got rid of one of our two terrible coaches (Name Redacted is left, but the thought of Mason offering insight on how defenses work on TV frightens me.)

Hey Whammy, how’s my pig?

Of course we have the most panhandlers and bums in Minneapolis. Everybody who graduates from Iowa gets a diploma, a map of the Twin Cities, and a piece of cardboard to write “Please help hungary and homeless. God bless.”

by Brewster Crew on Jul 26, 2007 7:08 PM EDT reply actions  

tosu arguments make SC Wayne look like Henry Kissinger. Get checked for myopathy before it is too late

by Willet on Jul 26, 2007 7:08 PM EDT reply actions  

The names keep coming:

+ The Walleye Pike Conference! Ice fishing division (Minn, Wis, MSU, Mich, NW and Syracuse (wth)) and Pontoon divisions. Winner of championship wins the coveted Willie the Walleye Trophy and a case of Grain Belt Beer.

by Sean on Jul 26, 2007 7:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Is it just me, or are tOSUBuck’s posts becoming more and more reminiscent of Adam Savage?

“I reject you reality, and substitute my own!”

I’m starting to suspect he is some sort of avant-garde web performance artist doing an interpretation of Buckeye fans for our amusement.

by Chg on Jul 26, 2007 7:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey, Year2-Dave…

You may have missed this, but Northwestern has more titles in the last 12 seasons than UK, Mississippi, Miss State and Vandy have put together in the last 4 decades.

Even Illinois manage to scrape one up a few years ago. Indiana, well… (shrug) every family has an idiot.

by PJ from NU in SF on Jul 26, 2007 7:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Brewster,

Why would you want to help hungary? I figure that country is doing just fine without Gofers who graduated without needing to spell correctly.

by Big Whammy on Jul 26, 2007 7:53 PM EDT reply actions  

#102: 1995 Northwestern was more a commentary on the Big Ten being down that year, and N’Western getting to miss Ohio State on the schedule. I mean, they lost to Miami (OH) that year.

As for 2001, same deal – down year for Big Ten and they missed Ohio State. It played only two teams from BCS leagues with at least 8 wins (Michigan and LSU), and it lost both of those games by double digits.

Those teams were fortunate to get hot in down years for the conference, and both lost to champions from other conferences in their bowls.

by Year2-Dave on Jul 26, 2007 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Edit – Illinois did not miss Ohio State in 2001, but it doesn’t matter since Ohio State was 7-5 that year.

by Year2-Dave on Jul 26, 2007 8:45 PM EDT reply actions  

#89: That’s pretty cool of him to do, and I mean that in all seriousness. Beats throwing them a token vote in the coaches’ poll.

Ahh, what the hell am I saying.

LOL million dollar cupcaeks~!!~!!1

by Rob on Jul 26, 2007 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Ohio State is 4-1 in BCS bowls in the last ten years.

That is all.

by Sir Ginho of the 216 on Jul 26, 2007 10:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Whammy, I saw one of the Iowa grads holding a sign that said “Gob bless” the other day. I think that may have been intentional.

by Brewster Crew on Jul 26, 2007 10:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Big Eleven for the sake of not skipping It

Big 10, lets just drop northwestern and illinois since that whole state blows anyways.

by JohnG on Jul 26, 2007 10:22 PM EDT reply actions  

#82

"The measuring stick is 3 loss SEC champion vs. 1 loss Big 10 champ.

Just a little history lesson here for you. Since 1992 the SEC and the Big Ten have played each other in 32 bowl games. The SEC leads the series 17-15. In 15 of those games the SEC team was favored, coming in with a better record, and the SEC won 9 of those games and the Big Ten won 6. In the other 17 games where the Big Ten team was favored or the teams had equal records, the SEC won 10 and the Big Ten won 7.

You SEC fans talk about the Big 10 + the Little 2 all the time, yet you fail to realize that Ohio State is the boat anchor – take us out of the argument and the rest of the Big Ten more than held its own against the SEC – in fact – the rest of the Big Ten collectively has a winning record since 1992 at 15-11 vs. the SEC.

So you can’t have it both ways – you can say it’s a two team league when you have a losing record against the rest of the conference when you take one of those two teams out and you can’t say that the wins against the SEC have come from mismatches either because in 23 of the 32 bowl games played the SEC team was either favored or had an equal record….and that doesn’t even take into account where the games are played (Georgia Dome, Super dome, and in Florida).

by tOSUBuckeyes on Jul 26, 2007 11:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow…who knew that Hawkeyes and Gophers were the Northern repressed cousins of Bammers and Barners?

I think the “Great Lakes 12” works fine. Split it into the “Lake Michigan” Division (Illinois, Michigan, Michigan State, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Northwestern, Indiana, Purdue) and the “Other Lakes, or not” Division (Syracuse, Ohio State, Penn State, Iowa) Divisions. So it’s unbalance—so what?

by Nate (ltdomer98) on Jul 26, 2007 11:18 PM EDT reply actions  

The Big 10 needs to drop NW and add Missouri and Rutgers or Syracuse…and call the league what it is…The Midwestern Conference (The MWC).

by tOSUBuckeyes on Jul 26, 2007 11:42 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t understand all the hate for Northwestern—they won the conference a decade ago, and every few years are competitive and go to a bowl with that wacky offense of theirs. Drop Indiana—they haven’t done anything since…..

…since….

by Nate (ltdomer98) on Jul 27, 2007 12:39 AM EDT reply actions  

#27, the Big 12 actually used that song on their PSAs until 2002 or so. It was the shizzle!

How about “The Big Indiana-MSU Showdown”, since that’s what this channel will be broadcasting.

by Raider Red on Jul 27, 2007 1:34 AM EDT reply actions  

tOSU Buckeyes, in all sincerity, you can be a class act when you want to. See #109; it takes a big man to call his own team the boat anchor of inter-conference matchups.

But you can’t kick us out of the conference, since we’re founders and let you in to spite Michigan. Neener, neener.

Also, how does replacing NU — located just an hour from O’Hare — reaffirm the “Midwest” tag? Last time I looked, Joyzee and upstate Yew Nork were hardly Midwestern. At least Pennsylvania is next to Ohio…

Also, I don’t hear Mizzou looking for a home outside the Big 12. Any Tiger fans out there? Bueller?

by PJ from NU in SF on Jul 27, 2007 2:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Raider Red, you picked a trophy game, and those are always worth airing. Granted, the hardware is an old brass spitoon, but it beats a pair of spurs, any day. Plus, it’s almost a gimme for the Spartans, and Lord knows, they need the help.

by PJ from NU in SF on Jul 27, 2007 2:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Oh, Year2-Dave, in your #104 — it’s a good thing Miami beat NU in ’95, because we would have otherwise been in contention for the MNC, and that would have caused too many heads to asplode. ABC might have put a contract out on Keyshawn, just to complete the storyline.

I can live with that roadbump in hindsight, because it was Randy Walker beating Gary Barnett, and the better coach won.

by PJ from NU in SF on Jul 27, 2007 3:06 AM EDT reply actions  

#111, Amazingly, as average as Georgia was until recently they’ve managed to go 5-0 against Big 10 teams in the bowls since ’92. Now, if they could just manage to beat a Big East team.

by Biggus Rickus on Jul 27, 2007 8:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Ohio State is 4-1 in BCS bowls in the last ten years.

Yeah, but 3 of those 4 wins came over Texas A&M, Kansas St., and Notre Dame. Not exactly powerhouses. Also, even though the BCS didn’t exist in 1998, you lost to FSU in the Sugar Bowl that year, which was within the last 10 years.

by PW on Jul 27, 2007 9:22 AM EDT reply actions  

1. The Big Eleventy ?
2. Das Uber Ten ?

by Scalz1 on Jul 27, 2007 9:31 AM EDT reply actions  

how about the Big x Conference. Then they can add or subtract as many teams as they want and never be wrong.

by mhentz on Jul 27, 2007 9:42 AM EDT reply actions  

#120

Back the truck up a second…You left out Miami-34 game win streak, undefeated defending national champions…plus that Kansas State team in 2003 was the team that beat the hell out of OU in the Big 12 Championship game, beat them much more convincingly than LSU did in the NCG. And that 98 Aggie team was the Big 12 champion.

by tOSUBuckeyes on Jul 27, 2007 9:45 AM EDT reply actions  

“#111, Amazingly, as average as Georgia was until recently they’ve managed to go 5-0 against Big 10 teams in the bowls since ‘92. Now, if they could just manage to beat a Big East team.”

Georgia faced 2 Purdue teams (9-3 and 7-4), 2 Wisconsin teams (8-4 and 9-2) , and Michigan St. (6-4-1)…not exactly the cream of the Big Ten.

But we appreciate you using Georgia’s record against the Big Ten as a measuring stick!

by tOSUBuckeyes on Jul 27, 2007 9:56 AM EDT reply actions  

The [insert sponsor] conference.

by numberedhats on Jul 27, 2007 10:14 AM EDT reply actions  

The reason I didn’t include the Miami win in there is because it was an impressive win (biting my tongue on pass interference b/c Wikipedia says it was a good call), whereas the ones I mentioned were not. And beating Oklahoma convincingly has been a college football tradition for the past 6 years, so that KSU team wasn’t special. And A&M ended up with 3 losses that year.

by PW on Jul 27, 2007 10:15 AM EDT reply actions  

The reason I didn’t include the Miami win in there is because it was an impressive win (biting my tongue on pass interference b/c Wikipedia says it was a good call), whereas the ones I mentioned were not. And beating Oklahoma convincingly has been a postseason college football tradition for the past 6 years, so that KSU team wasn’t special. And A&M ended up with 3 losses that year.

by PW on Jul 27, 2007 10:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Actually, one was an 8-2-1 Ohio State team tOSU. Hence the since ‘92 thing. How good are most teams records heading into sub-BCS bowls? 9-3, 9-2, 7-4, 8-4 and 8-2-1 are pretty normal. Georgia’s records, sequentially, were 9-2, 9-2, 8-3, 10-3 and 9-2. As for the measuring stick, I expect to beat Big 10 teams in bowl games. It doesn’t make me think the year was a success when we do. If anything, I’m amazed Florida, Tennessee and Auburn haven’t done the same thing.

by Biggus Rickus on Jul 27, 2007 10:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Re tOSU’s post #111: So the SEC has a winning record against Big Ten teams in bowl games when the SEC team is favored, but on the other hand, the SEC has a winning record against Big Ten teams in bowl games when the Big Ten team is favored, so in your mind that means . . . the Big Ten is a superior conference.

Maybe in Columbus that makes sense.

Regarding #124: In the ‘00 Outback Bowl, Georgia had the same record as Purdue and won. In the ’03 Capital One Bowl, Georgia had the same number of losses as Purdue (10-3 vs. 9-3) and won. In the ’04 Outback Bowl, Georgia had the same record as Wisconsin and won. The Michigan State game was way back in ’88 — you perhaps meant to cite 1992, when a 9-2 Georgia team beat an 8-2-1 Ohio State team? Convenient how you left that one out, ain’t it?

by Doug on Jul 27, 2007 10:22 AM EDT reply actions  

#81… “While LSU playing in New Orleans helps the Tigers, it’s not a huge difference maker”

Tell that to all the Sooner fans that made the trip to New Orleans only to watch 60,000 Tiger fans get in Jason White’s and Chuck (third and) Long’s head.

by Cincy on Jul 27, 2007 10:25 AM EDT reply actions  

“But we appreciate you using Georgia’s record against the Big Ten as a measuring stick!”
Why NOT use Georgia as a measuring stick against your mid-level teams if your going back to ’92??Alabama, Tennessee, Florida, Lsu ALL have national titles since ’92—-Georgia DONT. (Not to mention Auburns 13-0 season.) So Georgia compares rather nicely with Wisconsin and MSU.

by numberedhats on Jul 27, 2007 10:27 AM EDT reply actions  

When was the last time OSU beat an SEC team?

by numberedhats on Jul 27, 2007 10:32 AM EDT reply actions  

#131, The only difference between LSU’s run in ‘03, UF’s run last year and UGA’s run in ‘02 was the number of undefeated teams at the end of the season. It takes some luck, as Auburn’s 13-0 demonstrates beautifully.

by Biggus Rickus on Jul 27, 2007 10:36 AM EDT reply actions  

#126/127

Oh what the hell… that’s not fair (or accurate)

Going 4-3 in bowls and 6-4 in the post season in the since 2001 defines a six-year tradition of convincing losses???

That statement only makes sense for a couple of years and you know it.

by Cincy on Jul 27, 2007 10:37 AM EDT reply actions  

134

You got me.

by PW on Jul 27, 2007 10:51 AM EDT reply actions  

  1. tOSUBuckeyes

Check out the link from post #90 and you’ll see that one of those UGA wins came on 01-01-93 against tOSU. Does that represent the cream of the Big Twen conference?

by B-Man on Jul 27, 2007 10:51 AM EDT reply actions  

“Lake Erie Queen…Now we’re shaaaring the same dream!”

by Billy in Baton Rouge on Jul 27, 2007 11:03 AM EDT reply actions  

I personally thing the Big Ten* should change their scheduling: Just have Michigan and The Ohio State, and the other teams, like extras in a kung-fu movie, get to attack either one of the protagonists one at a time. They don’t get to attack each other (because extras can’t fight each other).

At the end, Michigan and The Ohio State high five, have a dance number, and people through popcorn at the screen because it’ll be worse than “Mission to Mars.”

Tiller and Purue** would love that, because they could be that extra that chooses not to attack after watching a few of their buddies have their necks snapped. Then the Purue Alumni Association can call me for a donation, emphasizing that “The football team went undefeated!”

Wisconsin might end up being that extra that gets a good shot on one of the protagonists, but then is horrifically ended by the other, as the first (not really injured) one stands up and laughs.

I would also like to point out that, if EsPN and ABC are to be believed, this is the type of setup the Big Ten* has every year.

  • Warning, numbering may not be accurate
  • There has been no evidence lately of any “d” at Purue.

by Senor Pez on Jul 27, 2007 11:41 AM EDT reply actions  

“Wikipedia says it was a good call.”

That’s a disturbing statement, around which I have just built a very pessimistic view of the youth, sports, and the future of Western Civilization.

by panhandler on Jul 27, 2007 12:01 PM EDT reply actions  

The “I Can’t Believe This is a Major Conference!” 12

by mcdinho on Jul 27, 2007 12:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Man, tOSU brings me back. I remember then [mascot redacted] bitchslapped those fuckers in their own back yard, which shamed them so much that the entire stadium swarmed the field to tear up the turf.

I recall that OSU’s quarterback was so unimpressed with Coach Sweatervest’s leadership that he went on a bender and got caught DUI the night before.

tOSU should have won a championship that year…the Fulmer Cup. Too bad this blog didn’t exist back then, or the Cup might have a different name.

Man, that was sweet. Thanks for the memories, tOSU.

by Expat Ohioan on Jul 27, 2007 1:04 PM EDT reply actions  

The Big Ten already has twelve schools. They just need to get University of Chicago to move back up to Division I-A football. Hell, they can’t be that much worse than Illinois, can they?

And, apologies if someone has already suggested [CONFERENCE REDACTED].

by DevilGrad on Jul 27, 2007 2:03 PM EDT reply actions  

So what if Saban wasn’t tough enough to handle Big 10/11/12 life at MSU and ran screaming like a little girl to LSU?

Yes, the Gators with Reggie F. Nelson were frightening last year, but he’s gone now, and so is the SEC. LSU is the best you’ve got this year? After Michigan beats them in the championship game, you’ll be calling Les Miles by the name of Betty.

by sjs1959 on Jul 27, 2007 2:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Given that Michigan is 22-5-1 vs. the SEC, I’d suggest The March to the Sea Conference.

by Gary Danielson on Jul 27, 2007 3:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Sherman was from Ohio…

by Expat Ohioan on Jul 27, 2007 3:23 PM EDT reply actions  

That explains why Sherman was so pissed at the south.

by Biggus Rickus on Jul 27, 2007 3:25 PM EDT reply actions  

139

My tongue was planted firmly in my cheek when I typed that. The fact is, that was a horrible call. And this is coming from someone who loathes Miami. But really, with the talent they had, Miami should’ve beaten OSU by 50 that night, so kudos to OSU for a well-played game.

by PW on Jul 27, 2007 3:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Sherman was from Ohio…
-
Schembechler, Woodson and Manningham were also from Ohio. Sherman’s success in the south suggests he would have been a Michigan man too.
BTW, Lloyd Carr is from Tennessee.

by Gary Danielson on Jul 27, 2007 3:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Sherman’s march was the last time a predominantly ground-based Northern offense worked against a defense in SEC country.

by DevilGrad on Jul 27, 2007 4:26 PM EDT reply actions  

149 responses and not one name that captures the true spirit of the conference, let’s call it the Kankle Conference and have Rosie O’ Donnell as the spokes{dyke}person.

by southernyankee on Jul 27, 2007 4:53 PM EDT reply actions  

[adjective redacted] tOSU, get a life and stop littering the internet with your spewage.

by War Eagle on Jul 27, 2007 5:29 PM EDT reply actions  

The Conference of Northern Aggression, then?

sure beats Lack of Conference Speed 12 (or XII)

by Expat Ohioan on Jul 27, 2007 5:49 PM EDT reply actions  

  1. & 27

“The reason I didn’t include the Miami win in there is because it was an impressive win "

Thanks for posting it twice because at first I thought it was a typo-your fucking kidding me about this, right? You’re not impressed with an underdog snapping a 34-game win streak against the defending national champions? Gosh, you’re hard to please. You’re not impressed with the Ohio State defense stuffing Miami’s offense on 4 straight plays from the 3 yard line? Not impressed with Ohio State sending the “soldier” to the locker room dazed, confused, and pissed off?

Hater.

As for the call…everyone knows it was the right call…but what everyone forgets is the call that was never made…

http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/story/6483719

http://www.buckeyefansonly.com/notcalled.html

by tOSUBuckeyes on Jul 27, 2007 9:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Idiots. The Big Ten’s secret name is “The Big Ten et al” which is very academic since it is partly in Latin.

by buckgeis on Jul 28, 2007 8:37 AM EDT reply actions  

The Maxoderm Conference

Let delaney rub his magic wand and suddenly everything seems bigger and better than it really is. (Not that I would know)

by Brett Barnes on Jul 28, 2007 10:20 AM EDT reply actions  

The Corn and Snowmobiles Conference

The Eleven Setting Conference

by MCab on Jul 28, 2007 7:03 PM EDT reply actions  

The Big Eleven.

Hey if 11 teams = Big 10, then 12 teams should equal a Big 11, right?

by Jeff from LA on Jul 30, 2007 1:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Look Sammie, I know you are a math wizard (at least jay jay says so) but stop it about the #12 and the Big#10! We get the point. Tell Whitlow to redo the math for you and, Whitlow might start with reconfiguring your SAT scores. I never did beieve you those.
jay whitlow
eric y

by eric y on Jul 30, 2007 3:05 PM EDT reply actions  

is auburn or abana better? plz explain

by halejuhia on Nov 10, 2007 10:08 PM EST reply actions  

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