THE EDSBS TOP 25, CONT'D: KELLS HELPS OUT WITH 4-6
The task of putting together a top 25 of any sort is stressful: frayed nerves, excessive caffeine and Ritalin consumption, the ever-present explosive gas...it's like working in a cubicle with Katy Couric, actually, though without the constant reminders to get our colon checked yearly. (We do! By a guy named Stan in an alley in Macon! What?)
We therefore recruited help for 1-10 in the form of R. Kelly, who in addition to fucking the same girl happen to be huge college football fans with plenty of angles to cover on the upcoming season. The end product is so hot, it reminds us of our Jeep, because it makes us wanna ride.
See provisional 1-3 here, including our standard overreach for Michigan.
4. Texas. Is this a blind reach for a blue-chip program, or an actual stab at coherent forecasting? Considering that we're reading Nassim Nicholas Taleb's book Black Swan right now, we've been disabused of the notion of accurate forecasting and can happily toss this out there as a rank and giddy guess--since they're all guesses that will inevitably be up to 180 degrees from what we thought would happen.

Colt McCoy: will be merely excellent this year, a letdown from 2006.
Nevertheless, Texas makes for solid guessing for good reason. The linebacking corps returns intact; the defensive line will feature defensive tackle Frank "The Subpoena" Okam, who along with his fellow d-lineman Derek Lokey is taking the LSAT in preparation to become a lawyer (and therefore a future reader of EDSBS.) Colt McCoy and his fake-ass assumed name (born Edwin Schlobodowitz, Poughkeepsie, NY) had the best freshman season in recent memory, insuring that whatever he does this season will be a letdown of some sort. We'd say he can't be as good, but the Greg Davis offensive system remains a run first game, and Jamaal Charles et al constitute the usual nightmarishly talented Longhorn backfield to keep the pressure off McCoy. Limas Sweed, Quan Cosby, and Billy Pittman are already getting open as we speak, and there's nothing you can do about it.
Kells:
Straight up, dog.
The Longhorns got that fevah,
cure pain like that Aleve-ah,
got tricks like up my sleev-ah.
That means I think they'll win,
like 14 years old and slim,
I'll want to meet her twin,
double up and ride on in.
Kells needs to mention a brand name,
some vehicle or champagne,
I think they'll win okay, drink Perrier Jouet,
Now I mentioned my brand name,
and it was a type of champagne.

Kells on Texas: Straight up, dog.
5. LSU. Everyone else's automatic number two winds up at six five here, mostly because we think this team just has two losses written all over it this year. Placing them at two requires taking certain factors as givens we're not willing to grant, namely:
1. New offense, no problem=untrue. Jimbo Fisher can't help but be overrated after the bidding war that ensued this offseason between FSU and Alabama, yet the dropoff between him and Gary Crowton must be noted. Crowton's offenses at Oregon rang up huge numbers against the gnomes of the conference and sank when confronted with actual defenses.
The totals against uSC, Arizona, and BYU: 10, 10, and 8. They also badly mismanaged a quarterback rotation, something that still has a gambler's chance of happening between Matt Flynn and Ryan Perriloux, who'll happily give you odds on just that scenario at your local Harrah's Casino.
2. Lester the Unready. Les Miles' teams, fiery as they are, just have a tendency to commit crippling mistakes at crippling junctures in games. Last year LSU pulled off some dramatic wins fueled by the Dancing Ent, Jamarcus Russell, who often committed the turnovers to put the Tigers there in the first place. He wasn't alone, however--the precision of, hmm, say, an Urban Meyer or Frank Beamer team in execution and preparation simply isn't as obvious from the performance on the field. He's a player's coach, and like many player's coaches, he relies on players to occasionally pull victories directly from their very talented asses rather than game planning the bejeezus out of the opponent. On this spectrum, Les is obviously over on the emotional, loosey-goosey side, a side with a loss margin of around two a year in our estimation.

Do you trust this man? Hayley Lafontaine doesn't.
3. The talent differential cometh. The depth chart stocked so obsessively by Saban can't last forever, and we're happy to wager that Miles isn't recruiting the same grade or ferocity of beast Saban did. Miles may actually be a better motivator and people skills type--then again, so is the dead carcass of a Komodo Dragon--but now the roster's looking more and more Les Miles-ish, an unknown unknown at this point in terms of quality.
They're still good, but they just feel like a ten game season from the gut. And our gut's known for making great decisions like not buying Amazon stock, ordering the Baconnator at Wendy's before a strenuous workout, and thinking that seeing the ATHF movie without getting baked beforehand was a good idea.
Kells says:
My mind is telling me no...
BUT MAHHH BODEEEE!!!
MAHH BODDEEEEE!!!!
Is telling me yes
REEEEEEEEEMIX!!!!
I wear purple to disagree
With your bullshit analyseees
That means that I disagree
My opinion differs from yours you see
This means I think LSU's good
From the penthouse to the hood
I just explained this three times
To fill another line of rhyme
Because that's how Kells do
Explain the whole thing once or two
Or maybe thirty seven times
Or maybe thirty eight times
Or maybe thirty nine times
Or maybe fortyleven times
Then I end with a product drop
Like in a Dodge Durango with a drop top
on the way to my favorite spot
Pissing and reminiscing in the hotel
with a girl no more than twelve
DAMN....
'Cause that's a whole line in a Kells song, ya know, just a profanity like...
SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT... (Fade out)
Kells is: Wearing purple and peeing on a picture of Matt Flynn to show his support for LSU.

Kells likes LSU so much he'd pee on them and still film that shit.
6. South Carolina. Now we're just being provocative, sure, but we'd rather attempt to actually trend-spot and fall flat rather than simply rejigger the 2006 finishes of teams and call it a thought process. Steve Spurrier, openly and unashamedly beloved by this website, got the SC offense with dancin' Blake Mitchell up to #20 in total offense last year, a stat which should improve this year as Mitchell has a final year in the Cock 'n Fire. The tailbacks give hope for improved production, too, as Mike Davis and Cory Boyd man a veteran--nay, positively grizzled backfield.

Oh, it's a stretch. But we trust the chef.
A leap of faith must be performed for the defense, but there's evidence a-plenty for the jump: the amazing Brinkley brothers, the meanest Ladi you'll ever meet, Ladi Ajiboye, and defensive coordinator Tyrone Nix, a young defensive coordinator who constructed small miracles with a defense that took the field last year with one--one--returning starter.
Kells says:
You must be straight trippin'
From the purple drank you sippin'
Got your brain straight fried
Like some tasty-ass chicken.
Number 8 offense in the redzone
That ain't hot like a redbone
Blake Mitchell can't read the zone
OBC cain't do it all alone
I haven't mentioned a sponsor
This verse done need a sponsor
Navigator Cris' and Escalade
Cocks good but they ain't got it made...
Kells is...
...deeply suspicious of your pick.

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so are teams 4-6 actually identical triplets?
by Jerkwheat on Jul 12, 2007 11:49 AM EDT reply actions
$1,000,000 to the first person that bashes Orson for putting South Carolina 6th!!!!
(I hope you take personal checks)
It shouldn’t take long!
by Cocky on Jul 12, 2007 11:53 AM EDT reply actions
Quick, hide Haley from Robert K! SOMEONE, ANYONE… FUCKING HIDE HALEY FROM R. KELLY!!!
by Michigan Gator on Jul 12, 2007 11:55 AM EDT reply actions
Except that I am a Gamecock fan and love them being 6th!!!!!!!
by Cocky on Jul 12, 2007 11:55 AM EDT reply actions
Turds Dept:
Everyone’s No. 2, LSU is appropriately downgraded. A coach as dumb as Les Miles is going to cost the team at least two games this season. I would not be surprised if one of the SEC minnows surprises the arrogant Lester “the Molester” Miles.
by Stacy Keibler Luvs Me on Jul 12, 2007 12:00 PM EDT reply actions
Orson, the more I read about LSU, the more I knew you were either: 1. tremendously ignorant of the goings on at LSU or 2. not taking this seriously.
Then I saw who you had ranked at 6 and I easily narrowed the previous 2 to one solid conclusion. I could get all up in it about your numerous inaccuracies regarding the Tigers, but your most serious break with reality is USC.
by LSUJoshua on Jul 12, 2007 12:00 PM EDT reply actions
Terrible pick at #6, I’d rather see (insert ACC team here) or Wisconsin.
by BC Eagle on Jul 12, 2007 12:02 PM EDT reply actions
Are you smoking crack? Because that may be all that explains: 1) how you came up with the R. Kelly gimmick, and 2) South Carolina at #6.
Of course, if you’re right, people will marvel at your skills of prognostication . . . and probably ask you to cure leprosy and cancer, as well. Selfish bastards.
by Kipp on Jul 12, 2007 12:02 PM EDT reply actions
I’m more confident in the Gamecock D going from good to great then I am in the Gamecock O doing the same thing…and the reason is O-Line play. But it’s good to see the “back like cooked crack” tag being put into play.
by Robert on Jul 12, 2007 12:03 PM EDT reply actions
Orson — No doubt TOBCU will be solid, but top-10 solid without Sidney Rice? As an LSU fan, I hate you for making me deal with reality — just when I was drinking the cool-aid, you hit me with the new qb / crowton argument.
On the flip side, Jimbo’s not around to run the ball up the middle / bubble screen people to death.
by PurpleHeart on Jul 12, 2007 12:03 PM EDT reply actions
Are these rankings supposed to be how the teams will ranked heading into the bowls, or after all the bowls are completed?
by Michigan Gator on Jul 12, 2007 12:04 PM EDT reply actions
are these rankings supposed to be how things will look in Week 7 or Week 13?
by Jerkwheat on Jul 12, 2007 12:06 PM EDT reply actions
Michigan Gator, they’re an estimate of current value with a dash of projected finish thrown in there.
LSU Joshua: what’s inaccurate? We didn’t even mention the loss of LaRon Landry or the wideouts.
As for the USC pick…well, the back like cooked crack tag exists for a reason. But if you’re going to be a bear, be a Grizzly’s worth of crazy.
by Orson Swindle on Jul 12, 2007 12:09 PM EDT reply actions
have you seen Carolina’s schedule?
shame…spurrier is a fucking traitor!
by HotlantaBill on Jul 12, 2007 12:09 PM EDT reply actions
Orson, I don’t mean to stickle, but “5. LSU. Everyone else’s automatic number two winds up at six here” is a bit, uh, baffling.
by Oops Pow Surprise on Jul 12, 2007 12:20 PM EDT reply actions
Orson, minor edit request:
“5. LSU. Everyone else’s automatic number two winds up at six here, mostly because we think this team just has two losses written all over it this year.”
by Geaux Irish on Jul 12, 2007 12:21 PM EDT reply actions
5. LSU. Everyone else’s automatic number two winds up at six here…
Notice anything wrong with that? Yes, you claim to have them ranked at 6 while you actually have them ranked at 5. Does this mean you were going back and forth on ranking South Carolina at 5 and LSU at 6?
by PW on Jul 12, 2007 12:21 PM EDT reply actions
Swindle, I disagree with South Carolina at #6. Obviously, Minnesota belongs there. And I deserve a nice little white coat without sleeves for saying that.
[Threadjack]
Anyone have some advice for dealing with Houston? There has to be some Tejas EDSBSers out there this morning. I’m headed down there for the weekend, and I don’t know if I’ll survive.
[/Threadjack]
by Brewster Crew on Jul 12, 2007 12:23 PM EDT reply actions
I’m expecting an all USC MNC game. When the lines open for the game, will you play it safe by having the Trojans covering the Cocks? Or will you pick the Cocks to bust the Trojans? Either way, America is a winner.
by Tommy Boy on Jul 12, 2007 12:24 PM EDT reply actions
That’s my Robert. Always peeing on people.
by R. Kelly's Grandma on Jul 12, 2007 12:25 PM EDT reply actions
As much as I love Orson Swindle, I will go ahead and tell you that through my crystal ball – nobody will commend him on his “accurate USCe #6 preseason ranking” because it won’t end up that way.
I do like the imagination of the pick, though.
by CFB Authority on Jul 12, 2007 12:26 PM EDT reply actions
5. LSU. Everyone else’s automatic number two winds up at six here… I think you meant 5?
by quche McBagelwitz on Jul 12, 2007 12:26 PM EDT reply actions
Oh, and when the BlogPoll comes around, we should be able to list Texas/Oklahoma Winner as 1 entry. I’d have them at #3.
by CFB Authority on Jul 12, 2007 12:27 PM EDT reply actions
Les gets a bum rap for being a bad coach – and it’s his own fault sure enough. The man can’t string together a complete sentence. This is his year to prove whether he’s coaching’s Forest Gump or not.
And LSU has had a problem with unforced errors in years past.
But, Orson, you ignore the giant purple elephant in the room that is Bo Pelini’s defense. True, Laron Landry is gone, but he’s replaced by another sure-fire NFL pick and tested vet in Craig Stelz. Hell, the two-deep at every position on the D drips with NFL talent. And Pelini gets them more fired up for blood than Mike Vick’s pit bull.
Jamarcus could make an occasional poor decision or bad play and put the team behind the 8-ball. But Matt Flynn is a Matt Mauck type – just don’t screw up, baby. Meanwhile, a young stable of RBs should get unleashed by Crowton. It may be heresy, but Jimbo Fisher never did more than an adequate job getting the most of his runners.
All that said, Oct. 6, when the Gators come to Tiger Stadium, should be the biggest game of the year.
by TigerNacho on Jul 12, 2007 12:30 PM EDT reply actions
Two further notes:
1. These remain subject to drastic revision. For instance, there’s no way we’ll keep Michigan at number 2. South Carolina at 6, though, might stay—Phil Steele’s with us on that crazy wagon, though he thinks UGA is actually better.
2. If you haven’t seen the video for “Same Girl” by R. Kelly and Usher, you are missing the funniest video ever made. Funnier than “In the Closet pts 1-38,” and way shorter.
Lyrics. “Acting.” The surprise twist. A prison will, for a short time at least, be the most talented place on earth next year when the R becomes their talent show coordinator.
by Orson Swindle on Jul 12, 2007 12:30 PM EDT reply actions
South Carolina allllll the way up at #6? You’re really hoping that defense is going to be that dominant or that the Blake Mitchell Dance-a-thon will score tons of points for 49-42 victories or some such. Do I have a better suggestion at #6? Uh…no. So I guess my criticism is worth little then, my apologies.
Personally, I would have to think Louisville would be hovering around the top 10. I know, I know, new coach = drop off, but that is one hell of a team they still have…
Also, I’m curious to see where THE Ohio State ends up on this list.
by John F on Jul 12, 2007 12:36 PM EDT reply actions
South Carolina? Ha! #6? BWAHAHAHA!
On th DL, Orson, can I get two quarter bags of what your puffing?
by Mike P. on Jul 12, 2007 12:40 PM EDT reply actions
by Wooderson on Jul 12, 2007 12:42 PM EDT reply actions
Two mistakes: One, thinking that the defense is going to be South Carolina’s main Achilles heel this season. They may be so-so, but the real problems are on the offensive line — I just sacked Blake Mitchell not five minutes ago, and I didn’t even have to leave my desk at work to do it.
Second mistake: Wrong nickname for Frank Okam. He should be “The Razor.” Get it?!?!
by Doug on Jul 12, 2007 12:47 PM EDT reply actions
With Nick Saban the coach at Bama, they are guaranteed to win 68 games and 9 national championships this season alone. What kind of poll doesn’t have them in the top 6?
by Tiger VI on Jul 12, 2007 12:48 PM EDT reply actions
Doug et. al.—
We’re going mainly off the quick hit offense Spurrier tweaked the Cocks into last year toward the end of the season. In the Florida game we didn’t touch him, and he stayed fairly clean toward the end of the season. That’s what you’ll see tons of this season.
by Orson Swindle on Jul 12, 2007 12:51 PM EDT reply actions
I’d like to see Mack Brown wear that spiffy purple number that R is sporting.
Yo quick trivia: name the backup singers/group that R Kelly used in the beginning of his career. (No, it’s not the ‘Golden Tinkles’)
by CommishCH on Jul 12, 2007 12:51 PM EDT reply actions
Orson, the safeties are being replaced by two experienced vets, and Craig Steltz will be an upgrade at the strong safety slot (led the team with 4 picks as a backup/part-time starter last year).
As for this notion that Miles’ teams are undisciplined compared to Meyers’ you’re kind of ignoring the fact that Florida was the most penalized team in the SEC last year. Didn’t seem to hurt them too much. He’s also turned in back-to-back top-10 recruiting classes.
At the end of the day, the guy’s 22-4, and masterfly handled a hurricane situation that would have driven his predecessor insane. A lot of people have had a pre-conceived notion of his incompetence that can’t be backed up by any real evidence, and I defy anybody to point to one of those 4 losses and tell me definitively that LSU would have won that game with another coach.
by Billy in Baton Rouge on Jul 12, 2007 12:55 PM EDT reply actions
Got to say, you and Steele have brought a tear to my eye with the craziness. We’re this year’s Arkansas! Only . . .without all the crazy.
by offcampus on Jul 12, 2007 12:55 PM EDT reply actions
fourteen years old and slim and I want to meet her twin!
Well said Kells, well said.
by OhioDawg on Jul 12, 2007 12:57 PM EDT reply actions
R. Kelly has not been parodied that well since Chappelle sang about peeing on you. The mental image of him peeing on a picture of Matt Flynn makes me belly laugh. 100 cocktails to you sir. “this is the remix edition of the song about pissin’”
by Rusty Shackleford on Jul 12, 2007 12:57 PM EDT reply actions
-Hey, remember the site that we though put one over on us the other day?
-Every day should be Saturday? Yeah, that was a pretty sketchy site.
-Well now I don’t know about it. They have this article up there and it looks like R. Kelly is writing rhymes for them now.
-Really? Wow!
-Yeah. Man, that guy’s got talent. I’m rethinking my stance on this site.
-Yeah. Are you sure that Hayley Lafontaine story wasn’t true?
-I’m not so sure anymore.
by The Sports Junkies on Jul 12, 2007 1:02 PM EDT reply actions
I actually have to agree with Billy and LSUJosh. Les Miles has recruited very well, has put up back to back 10 win seasons, and doesn’t deserve the animosity that other fans (and even many LSU fans) have towards him.
Note: I’ve said it before, and I’m sticking with it—Ryan Perriloux will be at either McNeese or Grambling in August. We’ll see if I’m right next month.
Final note: the Same Girl video is unintentional comedy at it’s best. The acting is amazing, the twist, all of it. However, I don’t understand one thing…(Spoiler Alert, if such a thing exists for an R Kelly/Usher video)…in all of their hoopin’, phone calls, dinners, plan makin’, etc., HOW did they not ever mention a name and realize that the “same girl” were actually two hot, but obviously retarded, twins?
I thought Usher was smarter than that.
by RaginCajunRebel on Jul 12, 2007 1:02 PM EDT reply actions
Plus Orson Steltz looks kind of like the Ultimate Warrior without his facepaint:
http://www.lsusports.net/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=27812&SPID=2164&DB_OEM_ID=5200&ATCLID=174877&Q_SEASON=2007
A quality I know you value from a white strong safety.
by Billy in Baton Rouge on Jul 12, 2007 1:03 PM EDT reply actions
rabble! rabble! rabble! Arbitrary ranking not to my liking! D00d U R sooo st00pid go Tigerz!
by PeteJayhawk on Jul 12, 2007 1:03 PM EDT reply actions
Pete—
And this if for ranking them fifth in the country.
Meanwhile, if SC actually does finish sixth, we’re buying ourselves that mouth/tongue belt buckle Kells has in the pic above.
by Orson Swindle on Jul 12, 2007 1:05 PM EDT reply actions
Brewster Crew-
Welcome to Houston. Hope you like heat and humidity. What else do you need to know?
by Scott on Jul 12, 2007 1:08 PM EDT reply actions
The first point in the LSU analysis has me thinking about what another offensive coordinator with a history with the PAC-10 did in his first year at Auburn in 2004.
by LemmeHearYaSayWarEagle on Jul 12, 2007 1:14 PM EDT reply actions
If SC finishes fifth, I’m burning Atlanta and Columbia down…again.
by Robert on Jul 12, 2007 1:15 PM EDT reply actions
- not sure why LSU vs. UF is going to be the biggest game of the year, unless you somehow believe that the NC is going to be decided between those two… Which is awfuly nice of you to pander to Orson’s vanities. I myself don’t see that as being the game of the year, though you may want to petition ESPN now, they are great at jumping on those kind of statements before games are played…
by Jonathan on Jul 12, 2007 1:19 PM EDT reply actions
Brewster Crew -
Stay out of Gunspoint (Greenspoint) that is all I’m saying…
by Jonathan on Jul 12, 2007 1:23 PM EDT reply actions
- Public Announcement… I’ve got the tape on lock. If your girlfriend/wife doesn’t like “Dedicated”, she’s a bitch.
by Michigan Gator on Jul 12, 2007 1:24 PM EDT reply actions
O – if South Carolina does end up at 6th, I’ll buy you the damn belt myself. With the #2 toughest schedule, I just don’t know how we can put together that kind of 1 loss season. Give me any B10 schedule and I would be calling Kells’ tailor right now.
Thanks for your kind thoughts- I change my answer to #4 this week to you, my new mancrush!
by Out of Conference on Jul 12, 2007 1:25 PM EDT reply actions
USCe at #6. I believe someone remembers just why SOS is a great coach. Defense? We don’t need no stinkin’ defense.
by Cruzer on Jul 12, 2007 1:26 PM EDT reply actions
wow…..some serious OBC teet suckling. from a pure comedy standpoint i hope you’re right about the ’cocks. nothing pleases me more than an OBC in a position to talk shit.
by gerry dorsey on Jul 12, 2007 1:29 PM EDT reply actions
Orson – I don’t think the rabble is frothing due to being your 5th choice or whatever…more the methodology. As an LSU fan I think we should be between 3-10, probably, depending on how Flynn performs. The one thing you touch on that I 100% agree with is the WR positions. Doucet is great, but Les needs guys to step in and contribute ASAP (and our Juco Hero isn’t qualified yet)…I see VT loading up the box and doubling Early in week 2. Scares me.
Keep on chooglin…
by CK on Jul 12, 2007 1:30 PM EDT reply actions
Put VT way up at #5 and knock LSU down to #6, predicting a 2-0, soccer-style ass-whooping of Beamer-ball over Pelini-ball in September.
by Herb on Jul 12, 2007 1:35 PM EDT reply actions
I’m down with OBC, but if you knew me you’d know that #6 is Krazy, which is capital crazy processed from steamed pollock.
LSU will indeed disappoint the Korn dog lovers when they bite into their season, only to find imitation champions.
by Allahver Fist on Jul 12, 2007 1:36 PM EDT reply actions
The Kells lyrics are pure comic gold. And I will second the Cocks at #6.
What remix is this?
Feelin’ on yo’ booty.
by Odell 51 on Jul 12, 2007 1:38 PM EDT reply actions
- - It’s not necessarily pandering. I think it’s important to remember that UF won the national championship last year, is loaded at every position, has a great coach and has a pretty darn good weapon coming in full time at QB next year. They’ll be the class of the East.
LSU will be the class of the West. Oct.6, right now, looks like a preview to the SEC Championship game. It’s not an entirely dumb idea to say the winner of that game has a darn good chance of being in the MNC.
So, yeah. Game of the year – projected.
by TigerNacho on Jul 12, 2007 1:55 PM EDT reply actions
I love the #6!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go Cocks!!!!!
by the biggest cock around on Jul 12, 2007 2:10 PM EDT reply actions
I wanna go half on a baby with this article.
by The Great Barstoolio on Jul 12, 2007 2:13 PM EDT reply actions
I think the folks at BON have already got Lokey and Okam labeled as “Law and Order.” I sitll think we can find something better, but if not, its pretty solid.
by The Stos on Jul 12, 2007 2:13 PM EDT reply actions
When the Museum of Unintenionally Funny Music Videos is built, R. Kelly will have his own wing between “Trapped in the Closet.” “Same Girl,” “Ignition,” “You Remind Me,” and “Keep it on the Down Low.”
And God bless him for that.
by Billy in Baton Rouge on Jul 12, 2007 2:19 PM EDT reply actions
Fisher’s offenses at LSU rang up huge numbers against the gnomes of the conference and PAC10 softies but sank when confronted with actual defenses. The totals against Auburn and Florida: 3 and 10.
Crowton is an upgrade.
by drexyl on Jul 12, 2007 2:21 PM EDT reply actions
I can accept SC at #6, but nothing, [i]nothing[/i], is funnier than “Trapped in the Closet”.
by Mr. Wrong on Jul 12, 2007 2:34 PM EDT reply actions
The SEC East is a freakin’ meat grinder this year. I don’t think an SEC team will make it to the MNC game this season because there’s no way anyone is making it out of the conference unbeaten. And there’s bound to be 2 undefeated teams among the usual suspects of USC, Texas, tOSU, Michigan, and Oklahoma preventing a 1-loss team from getting there.
by PW on Jul 12, 2007 2:48 PM EDT reply actions
Click-clack! This is Ball Coach. I really hope and pray that Under Armour unleashes a new commercial prior to the UGA game on ESPN. What a great time to be in Athens. I can hardly wait.
We will get to see if Orson and Phil Steel know what they are talking about pretty early in the season.
USC @ UGA 9/8/07
USC @ LSU 9/22/07
If Carolina can even split these two early games, they could be 7-1 (4-1 in SEC) heading into Knoxville on 10/27/07. That’s at least worthy of a Top 15 ranking.
10 returning starters on defense. Sweet.
Our OL will be fine. We return both starting tackles. The inside guys may take time to adjust, but everyone has had previous playing experience.
by Mike on Jul 12, 2007 2:49 PM EDT reply actions
Re: R. Kelly in Purple.
Are those the famed “Bacon Pants” I keep hearing about? At least below the belt buckle it looks like it.
by MCab on Jul 12, 2007 3:11 PM EDT reply actions
Yep, gon’ run the table this time. Play some defense and score a whole bunch-a-points. Gon’ give those folks in Five Points something to yell and high-five ever’body about.
by Stephen Orr Spurrier on Jul 12, 2007 3:11 PM EDT reply actions
@ Georgia
@ LSU
@ Tennessee
@ Arkansas
Florida
Clemson
And you got your one victory per five years versus Clemson last year. 7-5 at S. Carolina would be a minor miracle. 8-4 would mean that Spurrier has the ability to walk on water.
by Coop on Jul 12, 2007 3:18 PM EDT reply actions
To no one’s surprise, I am going to hail Orson as a genius for his #4 pick. Although I take issue with his saying Our Lord And Savior COLT MCCOY is only going to be “excellent” this year- but I’ll let that slide for now.
by Texas Gal on Jul 12, 2007 3:18 PM EDT reply actions
Coach Spurrier #73:
Thanks for your words of encouragement. Just wanted to say the fall has a small treat for us all, and that is your pronunciation of the name Kenny McKinley on the Steve Spurrier Show.
by Robert on Jul 12, 2007 3:21 PM EDT reply actions
To #74, we will split those 6 games you mentioned, at worst. OBC has some material to work with now.
Watch out SEC. The Visored One is playing with a full deck this season, and might have an ace or two up his sleeve.
by We Hail Thee, Carolina on Jul 12, 2007 3:39 PM EDT reply actions
If he can get past the OU & Big Ten DL bias in the voting, Glenn Dorsey is your Outland Trophy Winner.
Glenn Dorsey, Darry Beckwith, Ricky Jean-Francois. Learn the names now before you read on some unwitting MSU QB’s chest or back. Or His FBness’ chest.
Keiland Williams, Ricky Dixon, Brandon LaFell (esp. now that Concussion Farmer is gone) on O.
Like TigerNacho said, Pelini. He built some of the most ferocious Ds in college history at Nebraska, he’s continuing that at LSU.
But you are correct, Orson. This teams has 2 losses written all over it. That I agree with. However, I’ve seen enough old Twilight Zone episodes to know you have to be specific as possible when you use words.
So LSU’s 2 losses will be to an SEC Opponent & then in the BCS title game to USC b/c the Turnover Monster rears it’s ugly head again.
Booyah?
by One And Done on Jul 12, 2007 3:41 PM EDT reply actions
Coop – I see us getting 3 of those. The Orange Crush is a bitch every year, so I don’t look to finish the reg season on too big of a win streak.
by Out of Conference on Jul 12, 2007 3:43 PM EDT reply actions
Colt has already thrown 15 touchdown passes and is now just standing there, waiting for everybody else to start the season. What are ya’ll waiting for?
Tennessee is my crazy top 10 pick this season instead of USC. That UT/USC game in Knoxville will have quite a bit at stake, for a change.
by beast in 'bama on Jul 12, 2007 3:47 PM EDT reply actions
Keep it on the down low
Girl, you’re fifteen years old…
by doreblogger on Jul 12, 2007 3:47 PM EDT reply actions
Once again, Orson has chosen to underrate Florida so that he can find himself pleasantly surprised in mid-October.
by John on Jul 12, 2007 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
Texy, your offensive coordinator is still named Greg Davis. Oohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Burrrrrnnnnnn.
by LSUJoshua on Jul 12, 2007 4:03 PM EDT reply actions
I agree 100%, #80. Vols-Cocks should be a great one!
by We Hail Thee, Carolina on Jul 12, 2007 4:07 PM EDT reply actions
#74
Clemson no longer exists to OBC. He shits on Clemson. Tommy Bowden’s lip quivers in anticipation of the beatdown he will receive from the OBC and the walking papers Terry Don Philips will serve to him directly after the game. Click-Clack.
In all seriousness, I feel we do win at least 8 and more than likely 9.
ULL – Win
@ UGA – Toss up
SCState – Win
@ LSU – probable loss
MSU – win
UK – win
@ UNC – win
Vandy – win
@UT – probable loss
@ ARK – toss up
UF – toss up
Clemson – win
That’s 7 wins, 2 losses and 3 toss ups. Obviously, you feel all 3 toss ups are losses. Keep doubting.
by Mike on Jul 12, 2007 4:25 PM EDT reply actions
Whoa, I think “Same Girl” was written by Ron Mexico.
by blazin on Jul 12, 2007 4:36 PM EDT reply actions
Starting to see more and more Cock fans on here, and that can mean only one thing…Clemson fans are soon to follow. At some point, the Cock/Tiger threadjacks will begin and make the Bama/Auburn jacks look like discussions of quantum physics. Let’s just hope it doesn’t get to that point.
by Tommy Boy on Jul 12, 2007 4:41 PM EDT reply actions
#78
You just broke at least one rule by mentioning a postseason individual award (Outland trophy). I may need a ruling from Orson on whether or not you also broke the rule about participating in conference wars with your OU & Big 10 DL bias remark.
I’m just glad there’s no rule about being a first class kissass.
by PW on Jul 12, 2007 4:58 PM EDT reply actions
Those rules apply to us and us alone. We’re already points deep in the scorebook there.
by Orson Swindle on Jul 12, 2007 5:04 PM EDT reply actions
The rhetoric sounds eerily familiar to preseason 2002.
Coincidentally, you traveled to Baton Rouge in 2002, as well.
7-5 in Cola.
by Coop on Jul 12, 2007 5:14 PM EDT reply actions
I’ve got $1,000 that says you’re full of shit, Coop.
by We Hail Thee, Carolina on Jul 12, 2007 5:20 PM EDT reply actions
Threadjack! Threadjack!
Nah, I wouldn’t even pick us at #6. I am dead serious though, OBC thinks we are going to be good, and he is telling people that around Colatown. He told a guy I know we could run the table if we get some bounces. I think our defense will be sick as hell, with 10 returning starters, but the interior OL is the weak spot. Although it is not as bad as most spring reports, cause in the game we split the first team up to where neither line on either team can be that good. we’ll see though…
If we split those 6 at 9-3 and TCB in the others, I’ll be pretty pleased. Especially with a bowl win putting us at 10-3. Hell, thats practically an MNC for us.
by cockengr on Jul 12, 2007 5:43 PM EDT reply actions
While I certainly like the fact that you have USC (the original West coast version) as your #1 pick, I feel a little cheated that R. Kelly didn’t sing about molesting our young girls.
What’s a brother got to do to get some real love?
by Rex Cramer on Jul 12, 2007 5:49 PM EDT reply actions
I think everyone really wants to see USC v LSU. It’s been a long time coming for that one. Cue “Calling in the Air tonight.” By Phil Collins, not by those no-talent hacks.
by MCab on Jul 12, 2007 6:30 PM EDT reply actions
Yes, anonymous Internet blog poster, I would happily accept something along the lines of, I say you go 7-5 or worse, you say 9-3 or better, with 8-4 being a push.
Of course you are the genius who said that every academic ranking system that currently exists, those pesky rankings which all unequivocally state that Clemson is the better overall academic institution AND has a superior undergraduate business department, is a bunch of bs, so perhaps I should take into account your level of delusion, but I digress.
Were you to produce an actual straw man to hold said funds until after Thanksgiving, I would happily sign on.
Does anyone else notice who brings the antagonism to the EDSBS replies? Oh, those Gamecocks are dying, literally, to have some semblance of a successful program, given the last 100 years and change.
Yes, you beat us for the first time in 5 years last year. “Obviously,” you will now own us and all of your SEC brethren.
by Coop on Jul 12, 2007 7:12 PM EDT reply actions
Ha! You and your precious rankings! Now I know beyond any doubt that you aren’t to be taken seriously. Why do you think leaders at many “top-ranked” universities are publicly rejecting those very rankings? If you don’t know, perhaps you should do some research, instead of obliviously standing behind a deeply flawed, arbitrary regime.
I don’t know what the final record for the Gamecocks will end up being. This is the most talented South Carolina team in 20 years, coached by a man widely thought to be the best in the college game. As such, I think a 9-3, perhaps even a 10-2 season is within reach. The SEC is a gauntlet of fire, so nothing is assured.
However, I think Tommy Bowden will be enlisting the services of a realtor shortly following the pummelling his team will receive at WBS this November.
If you want to bet, we’ll bet on that one.
Sorry for the threadjack. Coop is an idiot that deserves to be put in his place whenever possible.
by We Hail Thee, Carolina on Jul 12, 2007 7:35 PM EDT reply actions
We’re going to be good. We’re going to be ranked. Higher than most people would think. We’re going to compete for the SEC East. But #6? I hope you’re right. But that ain’t where I’m putting South Carolina.
And all this buzz is bringing visions of 2002 dancing in my head, when some delusional person at CFB News picked us No. 1 and we promptly underperformed against La-La and lost to Virginia. Damned expectations.
by cocknfire on Jul 13, 2007 1:06 AM EDT reply actions
Your SC pick at #6 would mean the game in Columbia will decide the SECEast. With how Spurrier’s last 2 against the Gators have gone, that should be a great one.
by winstongator on Jul 13, 2007 6:49 AM EDT reply actions
Does winning a national title make a mediocre coach great? Didn’t Mack Brown bench his QB who hadn’t lost to OU for a guy who never beat OU? Have his team collapse against Colorado in the B12 championship game? It took Fulmer 7 years to bottom out after his title. People judging Miles are judging him against what other coaches? VS OU, Miles 2-2 at OSU, Brown 4-5 at UT…
by winstongator on Jul 13, 2007 6:57 AM EDT reply actions
#85: Please correct me if I’m mistaken, but I believe Nixon occupied the White House the last time the Gamecocks won two in a row against Clemson. The real struggle for the OBC is not the schedule, but beating back 100 years of losing karma. Really, the only tradition at Carolina is finding a way to lose.
Here’s how it will play out: Tommy will roll into Columbia on a 2-3 game losing streak with his job on the line and the Tigers will grind out the victory when Blake Mitchell fumbles the snap with 5 seconds left and we run it back for a game-winning TD. Thus ensuring Clemson another year of mediocrity and ruining Carolina’s season. Gamecock fans, you know this will happen. Accept it.
by cutiger89 on Jul 13, 2007 9:14 AM EDT reply actions
cutiger89, as much as it pains me, your words carry some wisdom. I hope something like that doesn’t happen, but it wouldn’t suprise me if it did. On the other hand, is there any doubt TB will be fired if he does lose 2 in a row to the cocks?
by Mike on Jul 13, 2007 9:53 AM EDT reply actions
- had this South Carolina fan laughing aloud.
You can tell when it shifts from regular Carolina visitors to those attracted by the rivalry. The early posts reveal our almost Sally Fields-like response to any prediction like Orson’s- “You like us, you really like us!”
Then in the last 20 posts or so, it turns into ‘I bet everyone else in the country wants to read an ongoing exchange with someone that will never agree with me no matter what I say.’
Spurrier pwns Tommy!!! Clemson is teh suxorz!
Sorry. It’s my nature, Mister Frog.
by Chg on Jul 13, 2007 10:13 AM EDT reply actions
Mike—Two in a row to Carolina by itself won’t be enough. If Tommy drops a couple to the Maryland or Wakes of the ACC (don’t care about their recent success. We should never lose to Wake), then he may be in trouble. Every year Tommy loses one or two he has no business losing, combine that with two in a row to Carolina that may be a fatal combination.
by cutiger89 on Jul 13, 2007 1:12 PM EDT reply actions
Clemson 2007: Bowden’s Swan Song
Probable Losses:
Va Tech
at USC
Toss-ups, at best:
FSU
at NCSU
at GT
at Maryland
BC
Wake Forest
Probable wins:
La-Monroe
Furman
CMU
at Duke
That seems to set up nicely for a record somewhere between 6-6 and 8-4, including a second consecutive loss to the Cocks. Treading water in year 9 isn’t going to impress anyone.
I hope CTB has Dan Joyner’s number in his Rolodex.
by We Hail Thee, Carolina on Jul 13, 2007 3:53 PM EDT reply actions
What’s the buyout on Tommy at the end of the season? The buyout saved his butt last season, but the IPTAY disgust to buyout$ ratio may be high enough this year to force the issue that so many orange overall clad folks wanted last year.
Coop – where did you go to law school?
by Out of Conference on Jul 13, 2007 4:02 PM EDT reply actions
- - I laughed at the Dan Joyner reference.
by Out of Conference on Jul 13, 2007 4:05 PM EDT reply actions
Little Carolina at #6? I’ll believe it when I see it. That’s one brutal schedule.
by goheels on Jul 13, 2007 4:48 PM EDT reply actions
So, the token Heels fan shows up at the prodding from his fellow goat lovers on their rivals board. Hi there, little fella. Now run along. This here is football talk, and Butch Davis or not, you just don’t belong. See you in a few weeks though.
by Out of Conference on Jul 13, 2007 5:10 PM EDT reply actions
Who said I attended law school? Just because I used a “straw man” reference proves nothing.
Yeah, yeah, I know.
Duke – and, yes, Chemerinsky is full of himself.
by Coop on Jul 13, 2007 5:21 PM EDT reply actions
FYI, Tommy’s buyout has basically been reduced in half since last season, as his contract stipulates.
8 wins, including USC, and a bowl victory, and Tommy will probably stay IF TDP, who by many accounts is off to Arkansas, were staying.
If the new AD comes from in-house, 8 USC included wins will probably keep Tommy for one more year.
8 wins, without USC, or less, regardless of USC, and Tommy is gone.
9 wins, with a USC loss, is iffy, at best.
by Coop on Jul 13, 2007 5:33 PM EDT reply actions
Very little Texas talk. I guess everyone likes the pick..?
I’m hoping that Colt’s merely “excellent” season will be offset by Charles’ rebound season.
Hopefully the dubious OL will allow this to happen…
by Meega on Jul 18, 2007 5:30 PM EDT reply actions

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