NCAA: OKLAHOMA FORFEITS ALL 2005 WINS, LOSES SCHOLARSHIPS

They didn’t even do anything wrong!

Why is Bob Stoops heckling Abe Vigoda?

Looks like Abe’s trying to give him a reach-around.

That’s Stone Cold.

did Bomar at least get 150K?

Good thing JoePa isn’t running the NCAA. Stoops would be cleaning the stadium every sunday morning. Then JoePa would make him take a nap!

Urban Meyer thinks that punishment is Draconian.

Did JoePa actually invent the nap?

No, but he did invent sticking a finger in the ass while giving a blowjob. Now who wants to hear about his STD from the silent film era? Hands up.

Did Mr. Stoops complain about the officiating and his post-season fate? Because really, those are the only things worth reading about.

Of course, forfeits are pure symbolism, but they are also a gateway punishment. Bama had to forfeit some high-quality wins from 1993 and we all know where we found Bama after that: hungover in Tijuana curled up to Saban.

Too bad for Oklahoma that Bomar wasn’t the face of the NCAA (cough Reggie Bush cough), otherwise this whole deal would have been forgotten about looooong ago.

“meaning Oklahoma’s going to be investing in some turbopowered text messaging devices.”

Didn’t the text ban just go into effect?

“Forfeiting games sounds drastic, but it’s more of a symbolic gesture than a punishment.”

That should generate some extra work for the folks in charge of publishing the media guides down there.

And hey, we can say Bill Callahan beat Oklahoma a hell of a lot faster than Tom Osborne did! a-hyuk

the big 12 is the dirtiest fucking conference in America

Your mom’s the dirtiest fucking conference in America.

Bob Stoops doesn’t have time for this shit.

#13: Nah… we just suck at hiding our dirt.

Moral of the Story: Never self-report, never cooperate.

Hayley Lafontaine is the dirtiest fucking conference in America

Nothing goes on in the Big XII that doesn’t go on everywhere else.

However, as Texas fans know well, we are better than you, and that is why we don’t get caught. That’s the real key here….not getting caught. It’s hard not to get caught when everything about you screams cheater…even your very nickname….Sooners…ha.

Plus, our players can’t plot how to get paid a lot of money for not doing anything. They are already stoned and not doing anything.

I think it’s been changed now to “vacate” all wins, which means they didn’t happen, and alot of drunken football fans have had 3 hours of life thrown into a time paradox vortex. Which is something I wish could happen to me everytime Reggie Ball had played Uga. If the memory eraser thing from Eternal Sunshine of Spotless Mind actually existed, I would have paid good money to have those 4 Saturdays erased permanently from my conscious.

1. and #14: Have not heard of this kind of exchange since 7th grade.

I’m pretty sure NONE of us want to know what really goes on behind the scenes of college football… those recordings of Terry Bowden that came out about 4 years ago talking about the Auburn boosters slush fund and having to try to clean things up (while they were on probation, mind you) are chilling enough.

I don’t want to know what Logan Young knew. I don’t want to know what Regie Bush knows. If you love college football, you better hope the people who hide the skeletons do at least as good a job as the guys hiding the 40% of MLBers on steroids… because if it ever really comes out… I mean REALLY comes out… CFB as we know it will be over.

1. You may be in luck soon…

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“Nothing goes on in the Big XII that doesn’t go on everywhere else.”

Watergate defense? Nice.

(Though your assertion is probably a lot more nearly factually true, Stos.)

PW – Who wants a piece of the Gray Bush?

I’m pretty sure that even I have helped break NCAA rules.

Car Sales employee: You know, Rhett, you might want to start acting like the President. You’re beginning to alienate some of the employees.
Bomar: Yeah, like the CEO has to worry about alienating the employees.
Narrator: In fact, Rhett had started to alienate some of the employees.
Bomar: [in the break room] The worst that could happen is that I could spill coffee all over this $3,000 suit. Come on.
[in the elevator]
Bomar: Yeah, the guy wearing the $4,000 suit is holding the elevator for the guy who doesn’t make that in four months. Come on.
[in the bathroom]
Bomar: Yeah, like I’m going to take a whiz through this $5,000 suit. Come on.

The only punishment the NCAA levied was the continuation of probation and forfeiting/vacating/whatthefuckever.

All the other stuff was self-imposed by Oklahoma. In other words, a slap on the wrist.

If ESPNClassics broadcast, say, the 05 Tulsa game, would viewers get 4 hours of a blank screen?

Houston McNutt has already texted Norman OK about a head coaching position 538 times today. You know, just in case something comes open.

I knew it was only a matter of time before the Haley LaFontaine jokes crossed the line into discussing her promiscuity. C’mon guys, she’s only 11 YEARS OLD…and fictional.

and no, lanceharbor, I don’t want a piece of the gray bush because I hate your face.

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damn, my lack of html-learnin’ caused a little hiccup on my last post

“When is the NCAA going to make USC vacate all the Reggie Bush games?”

— Les Miles

Does this mean Franchione can finally claim a victory over Stoops? Yell Aggie Yell!

Can’t we just erase the 2005 Orange Bowl instead?

Looks like Ohio State won’t be needing an athletic department anymore. Captain Bowtie is leaving Nashville.

http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070711/NEWS04/70711037

I had no idea Oklahoma had 2,005 wins. That’s like 18 or 19 wins a year.

How does the NCAA make them forfeit past wins? Do they hire the finest Soviet propagandist and photo experts? Now you see the commissar, now you don’t . . .

So does that mean Oklahoma’s opponents get an extra win in their records? If so, congrats to 2005 Texas A&M, you’re bowl eligible!

they have to forfeit all of their victories from 05? you mean both of them?

Baylor’s first win over OU in school history!

Oh, this so counts.

I want the NCAA to force the Gators to vacate the 2002-2004 seasons. Wipe [name redacted] off the books like they never happened.

“Nowhere will you see the dreaded phrase "lack of institutional control’ . . . .”

Nope. Studiously avoided by Myles’s hired weasels. My tentative conclusion: Once the NCAA digs in on the various gambling and ham-eating shenanigans in Baja Michigan, Toledo is fucked.**

• “Tne NCAA is so mad at Kentucky that they’ll probably put Cleveland State on probation again.” — Bob Knight, circa 1987.

DevilGrad, Toledo — the city at least — has been fucked ever since Ohio pulled strings in Washington and moved the line north. Also, I must thank you for reminding me of the “Baja Michigan” tag, because I am occasionally at a loss for a suitable slur when I am in polite company. Here’s to ya.

Hey # 22:

Does this mean that I might be able to diminish the horror of the prison rape that UF administered to my beloved Buckeyes this January? I’m desperate and my asshole still hurts 7 months later.

As for the topic at hand, this punishment against OU is total bullshit. Forefeiting games is revisionist and passive agressive, but If they really wanted to send a message, those cocksucks at the NCAA would make OU forfeit that game against OSU in 1978 where that dickweed kicker (UWE something or other) taunted us during timeouts before sticking a dagger in our hearts. That play hurt worse than “Vince Young to Limas Sweed”, “Spring Slips”, "Tim Biakabatuka:, “The Drive”, “The Fumble”, and FUCKING RED RIGHT 88 COMBINED.

Thank GOD for PROPRANOLOL and it’s affect on those events from January which we shall no longer speak of.

DevilGrad:

Fellow Redskin er.. hawk here. Well said.

PJ from NU in SF: Ohio won the battle of Toledo fair and square (I think the body count was ZERO casualties on both sides), but this is a classic example of winning the battle while losing the war. I would gladly move heaven and earth to push that line back South.

I did love the “Baja, Michigan” tag. Even Orson couldn’t pen something that splendidly vicious.

it was ‘77, and his name is Uwe VanSchamen…and it was good. I recieved my undergrad in Ohio andI took every oportunity to remind the sweatver-vest loving people about this game. Licking county will forever feel the pain of a German kicker from Texas (yeah, that’s right) taunting them. In regards to the NCAA, is Bob Stoops gonna have to choke a bitch?

Whatever. Taurean Henderson still scored.

A real punishment for the Fighting Paper Clips would be banning Toby Keith from the sidelines. Typical OU T-shirt fan.

As pointed by my Institution’s finest alum in comment #19, OU merely has to “vacate” the 2005 season. So Baylor still lost and Tulsa still won, but for the purpose of OU’s records 2005 never ever happened.

Yes, “vacate” is slightly different then “forfeit”. So Baylor didn’t beat OU, but they didn’t lose to them either. I think Tech had to vacate all wins for a few seasons thanks to Joe Hamilton. Which is pretty funny, as it made Chan Gailey’s winning percentage temporarily go up. I think those wins were magically returned though, which may be pretty good thing. In a way, we got to beat Georgia twice. We’ll take em anyway we can get em these days…

ummm #47…. Tulsa never beat OU in 2005, you are thinking of the TCU debacle the week before.

1. - Even though this is a football blog, you forgot to mention Jose Mesa’s “The Blown Save”.

Clarification for #47 – OU has to vacate its WINS from 2005, not the whole season; they get to keep the losses. So their record for 2005 is 0-4.

Couldn’t have happened to a more over-rated program.

#51… oh come on now… OU is many things, but over-rated is not one of them.

Really great job NCAA.

So let me get this straight…there’s a lack of oversight at Oklahoma, but not at Ohio St. where Troy Smith received cash payouts from a booster and Maurice Clarett used to tool around in a tricked-out Hummer. Or at USC where an agent buys Reggie Bush’s family a fucking house and Matt Leinart and Dwayne Jarrett pay next to nothing on their rent.

What a joke…either enforce the rules for every case or give the players a stipend, instead of punishing some and letting others slide.

No doubt that the NCAA will look favorably on the fact that one of Oklahoma’s self-imposed penalties is banning " athletes from working at the car dealership until at least the 2008-09 academic year and moved to prevent the athletes’ supervisor at the dealership, Brad McRae, from being involved with the university’s athletics program until at least August 2011.

This has to be a step in the right direction since most bosses try to make employees do more work for less pay rather than more pay of no work. What kind of message is that for today’s youth?

Jim98, stop confusing the obvious: Jarrett and Leinart were roommates and that incident was REPORTED by USC to THE NCAA as a potential violation.

Reggie Bushes parents receiving extra benefits in the form of an allegedy rent-free house is not USC’s fault —unless you expect all schools to start doing forensic accounting on all football player’s PARENTS.

The NCAA would love nothing more than to throw the book at USC — if they could.

Oklahoma also claimed to have “self-reported,” although the sanctions report notes that an anonymous emailer turned them in first. More generally, “self-reporting” tends to help only by limiting potential sanctions, particularly when the university has to revise its “self-report” multiple times before the real facts come out (see, e.g., Marshall 2001).

As for the Bush family, one suspects that the university could have figured out what was up without resorting to forensic accounting. That said, I give USC and/or its hangers-on full marks for discovering a new form of money laundering.

SC did not invent a new way to launder, they copied the Woodson method.

So is OU gonna pay Baylor and A&M for the bowls they should have gone to that year? Both would now be 6-5.