THE RULES, 2007, PER MESSRS. BEAN AND SWINDLE
Phil Steele is off the press. Without the structure of practices and the watchful eye of coaches, player arrests are mounting. And the low-hanging fruit which are Stewart Mandel mailbags are back on our internets. (Wait… savoring that one… Okay. Stew! Love ya babe!)
Yes, college football is on the horizon. We’re not exactly close, but we’re getting close to the time when it’s close. Fall practices will kick into gear in six weeks. Conference media days won’t be far behind. Preseason polls (for 2008) should be available for perusal any day now.
We. Are. Getting. CLOSE! (Sort of.)

Our nightmare is soon to end, college football fans. Ignore the baby on the ceiling.
Before we get too close, though, and the excitement of it all overwhelms us, Peter Bean and Orson Swindle humbly offer a set of proposals, which we pledge to follow. If you’re inspired to join the Movement and sign with us, there’s more than enough room on the train.
However, as we’re suspicious of any movement that would have us as a member, don’t join. It’s surely disreputable, will cause hives, and will ruin your credit. Fair warning.–O.
Proposed:
1. We will not participate in the Conference Wars. We won’t be shy to look closely at schedule strength in talking about our dear sport and the ranking of teams therein, but we solemnly swear to avoid the tired, generic Conference War Chest Thumping.
2. We will actively abstain from 1=1 thinking/writing. Wins are good, losses are bad. You’re smart enough to figure this out on your own. We’re here for the curly fries, please, and not the standard potatoes you can find anywhere else.

Mmm. Curly fries.
3. We will abstain from constructing an All-American team. Until our requests for film of every game played gets approved by every university, we’ll politely decline the temptation to construct such a list. Truth is, we don’t know. There are better ways to talk about the keepers.
4. We will not break down a Stewart Mandel mailbag. This was a hard one for us, but damnit, we’re drawing the line in the sand. When we fry fish in 2007, we’ll be gunning for dolphins, not minnows, dig? Plus Braves and Birds has already perfected this form, anyway.
5. When referring to a team’s ranking, we will use the BlogPoll. Two years of Beta Testing were enough to let us know that the bloggin’ types pay a lot more attention to their ballots than the jaded, overworked sportswriters. Furthermore, as far as we’re concerned, the Harris Poll doesn’t exist. And let’s not even bring up coaches voting on other coaches except in the name of sporting satire.
If it’s up to us, Brian’s BlogPoll takes its giant leap forward in year three. Join the revolution, compadres.
6. We will mercilessly ridicule BlogPoll voters who fail to live up to the BlogPoll’s ever-improving standards. Wack balloteers who fail to justify their opinions will be openly mocked. Or, pending Brian’s approval, banished to Oxford to serve a one-year sentence as Ed Orgeron’s translator. LEMMETAIFOOTBAWYAW!
7. We will tirelessly promote the work of Sunday Morning Quarterback until he is rightly crowned College Football Blog King. No explanation needed here. Right?

Two chicks, at the same time: SMQ, the best in the non-business.
8. We will focus on the brutal facts of the matter. None of this nancy pants psycho-babble that’s best reserved for Reader’s Digest. You didn’t lose because of some ghostly otherworldly spectre of “intimidation.” You lost because your left tackle is not stronger and faster than the man he is facing. Readers are smart enough to accept this. If something silly like this is invoked, it will be in an admittedly silly fashion.
9. We will kneecap the weak-brained, starting with ourselves. And in the spirit of the rule, we’ll admit our errors freely. Even proudly. (Because there will be plenty of them, especially for Orson, the Harry Caray of blogging re: accuracy.)
10. We will focus on what is interesting/fun, not on what is traditionally important/powerful. If Hawaii-Boise State is The game… so be it. There’s a zillion games a weekend, not one. Find your bliss somewhere between DirectTV channels 305 and 360, because it’s a universal slate now. You truly live in golden times, reader.
11. We will challenge the paradigms which govern mainstream football thought, starting with LD’s “GameDay Recap.” You’re all on notice–especially you, um, ourselves.
12. We will never let “Did you play football?” end an argument. That. party. is. over. Surgeons don’t cut off the wrong leg and then ask you if you went to med school. They write your lawyer a check for 3 million dollars and quietly slink away to practice medicine in Belize.
13. Unless we inexplicably decide to write a post on the NBA, Bill Simmons name will never appear on this site. We’re as tired of the too-easy Simmons bashing as we are of the Simmons columns themselves. (Plus he doesn’t give a shit about the game anyway, so fuck him in the ear. -O.)
14. We are not serious. If we are, disclaimers will appear. Tuberculosis has the job of being serious. That position is taken and tired.
15. We will limit our complete ad hominem hatred of a coach to one man and one man only. Orson drafts Bobby Bowden. Peter selects Bob Stoops. You may grab your own Free Parking pass on one and one coach only.
(Why make promises you can’t keep… there is no way you cease the Phil Fulmer ad hominems… no way. –Stranko)

Oh, how we hate this man.
16. We couldn’t care less about season-end awards. The Heisman Trophy is dead to us. Unless and until they put Kyle in charge, we’re indifferent.
17. We are fans of the game, above all else. This is s’posed to be fun, y’hear? Those who try to ruin our sport will be brutalized. Amen.
Signed,
Peter Bean and Orson Swindle









1
bhors says:
15. I pick Charlie Wies. I’m sure I wont be the only one.
June 18th, 2007 at 11:41 am
2
jebushchrist says:
My hate has eyes only for Jim ‘Babyfucker’ Tressel. I’m willing to share him. The only thing better than my singular hate of him is group hate of him.
Join me.
June 18th, 2007 at 11:41 am
3
Holly says:
Can I hold my pick in reserve till I see Saban up close in October?
June 18th, 2007 at 11:43 am
4
NDTom says:
I’m calling Pete Carol (whose last name, by the way, is a girl’s name).
June 18th, 2007 at 11:46 am
5
The New Math: 86=1 says:
I’ll join Jebus’ group of Tressel haters. It’s safe over here and doesn’t reek of urine a la Columbus on gameday, trust me.
June 18th, 2007 at 11:53 am
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Stacy Keibler Luvs Me says:
#4 – ND Tom: Stop making fun of Pete Carroll’s last name. It is as Irish as the Sweepstakes. An Irish fan making fun of an Irish name*?* Idiot!
* Patronymic surname derives from the Gaelic (IRISH) cearbhaill, meaning “warlike champion” derived from cearbh, meaning “hacking”.
Saban or Weis are going to fight for the lead in the ad hominen attack category, methinks. In that close race, I pick Weis. (duh).
June 18th, 2007 at 12:04 pm
7
dogtown gator says:
Looking forward to the official BlogPoll addendum: Most Hated Coach.
How often are you allowed to change your coach hatred? Yearly seems fair, though I could be talked into a reverse redshirt year once every 4 years, in which you’re allowed to switch your coach hatred during the year without penalty.
And thank God, Terry Bowden’s an announcer and I can hate to my black heart’s content.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:08 pm
8
PeterPumpkinhead says:
I’m calling Fulmer….
late on Thursday nights…
from a phone booth somewhere in College Park (ATL, not MD)…
“They’re closing the Krispy Kremes in Knoxville, Phil… ALL OF THEM” (Insert Dracula laugh here)
By the way, Jebus, I’d be glad to form some kind of blogging alter-ego just for the purpose of joining your Tressel-hating super-group.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:10 pm
9
Geaux Irish says:
How about a rule banning all discussions of preseason (and early season) polls and who’s ranked where?
Seriously, unless you’re a school like ND or SoCal that actually plays a number of meaningful games in September, many tops teams are playing Div I-AA or weak Div I-A schools for the first 4 weeks of the season. The real football competition starts in October when the conference schedules begin.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:11 pm
10
Giantandre says:
Jeff Tedford, Jeff Tedford, and Jeff Tedford……Pete Carroll’s tears cure cancer
June 18th, 2007 at 12:12 pm
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fife in pdx says:
#15. irish fans call TW
June 18th, 2007 at 12:15 pm
12
LD says:
Please tell me that you, indeed, will be challenging the GameDay Recap posts. Lord knows my own incoherent analysis of Corsostreit’s incoherent analysis deserves serious rebuttal.
By I refuse to admit that those posts are part of the paradigm that governs mainstream political thought. The only paradigm they’re a part of is “half-drunk, embittered, grammatically incorrect, poorly formatted drivel anyone with a passing grade in 10th grade English would be ashamed to have his name next to.” See, look, I even messed up the grammar of that sentence!
Also, fair warning, the countdown will be on this season:
Upon the 10th “without question” or “best ____ in ALL of college football” to come out of Kirk Herbstreit’s mouth that directly contradicts a prior “without question” or “best ____ in ALL of college football”, I’m going Chris McCandless on the show entirely and you’ll have to get the recaps elsewhere.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:15 pm
13
matt says:
as disgusting as Tressel is…the real, literal “babyfucker” is Mark Richt, what a douche bag- pervert
June 18th, 2007 at 12:15 pm
14
Kemp says:
SMQ has a Vancleave (MS) t-shirt on? Wow, as one of only maybe two people who will have any idea where that is, I am even more impressed with his writing. However it brings into question his ability to read.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:18 pm
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jebushchrist says:
#12:
Hey, come on. I was only trying to smear a guy’s character because his team fucking KILLS mine and he wears sweater vests. It’s no fun to say babyfucker if you bring up a real babyfucker.
You are not welcome in my group.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:26 pm
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Out of Conference says:
I ned a clarification of Rule 15.
Can you hate your rival’s coach even if that school’s fans hate him as well? Or do you have to like him and hope he sticks around for a few more years, just to piss them off?
June 18th, 2007 at 12:27 pm
17
Jeremy says:
I would love to join subscribe to Tressel Haters Monthly, vol. 7; however, all he’s really done is beat my team regularly. Is that grounds for subscription? At least he didn’t bitch incessantly about the unfairness of the polls to his bubblegum-soft schedule (Weis E. Coyote) or whine his way into a national championship game (Urban Meyer).
But those were isolated offenses, and Cheatypants’s perennial ability to simultaneously dodge NCAA infractions and beat my team gives him the advantage.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:28 pm
18
Out of Conference says:
I guess “Ned” “NEEDS” a clarification as well.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:28 pm
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PeterPumpkinhead says:
Was I out of the country the week we found out Mark Richt is actually a Catholic Priest? What is matt talking about?
June 18th, 2007 at 12:28 pm
20
jebushchrist says:
#17:
All you need is hate.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:30 pm
21
Whitey says:
Second to Pete Carol…
Smug bastard.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:35 pm
22
Jerkwheat says:
Holly, if you aren’t willing to commit to Saban hatred right now I certainly am.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:35 pm
23
Orson Swindle says:
We would request a clarification on the “babyfucker” charge, too.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:37 pm
24
Erik says:
I can’t believe Saban is still on the board at #21!!!
He’s the Frank Gore of this draft, and He’s All Mine!
June 18th, 2007 at 12:39 pm
25
Oops Pow Surprise says:
Jebus is not kidding about his Tressel hatred. While there’s some inherent homophobia in hating a coach just because he wears sweater vests, fanny packs, and *underwear with unicorns, his listed reasons for hating Tressel are by themselves valid and just. I personally will not join Jebus; my hatred is directed at Rice’s own David Bailiff.
He knows what he did.
*speculative
June 18th, 2007 at 12:42 pm
26
Domer Guy says:
Carroll (whose last name is a girls name), Cheaty McSweatervest, Urban, Lllllloyd, Wilford Brimley . . . how can I choose just one???
Fine, I’ll take Carroll—and his free rent getting, ecstasy pill-having, firearm toting, fake suicide joking, snoop dogg loving team too.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:42 pm
27
RittyRich says:
But seriously though, as per No. 1:
SEC > {2(Big 12 + Big 10)(Pac 10)(ACC)}^3
June 18th, 2007 at 12:47 pm
28
Erik says:
Domer, Don’t forger “Hate Spreading”
June 18th, 2007 at 12:51 pm
29
The New Math: 86=1 says:
Lllllloyd
I have never seen that before. You sir, are too clever.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:54 pm
30
Devin McCullen says:
I’m going with an off-the-wall coach hating category: Al Groh. First, because he was a totally uninspiring NFL coach and then quit for a run-of-the-mill (no offense, Cavs fans) college job. As a Jet fan, I was kind of offended. And then he’s gone on to hold the job for 6 years without really accomplishing anything, even to the point where his coordinators run off – to be the head coach at Temple? So I detest him just because he’s manifestly proven he doesn’t deserve the job, and yet he still has it. (Plus, if he does finally get canned, I can switch to someone else.)
BTW, can we spare someone having to use their pick on him, and just agree that the blogosphere as a whole hates Dennis Erickson and his one-man crime wave?
June 18th, 2007 at 12:57 pm
31
Willet says:
#9 Duke, Stanford, Navy, Air Force, GT and MSU, not to mention Purdue and BS. Just brutal, because you Domers are such xenophobes I declare war on Weis.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:57 pm
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Willet says:
BC freudian slip for the crap domers spew.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:59 pm
33
Boston Frog says:
Dennis. Franchione. Especially if A&M continues to improve.
June 18th, 2007 at 1:00 pm
34
BovineKid says:
Point of order: I don’t think the “one coach” thing is a draft situation. Multiple people are allowed to hate the same coach.
June 18th, 2007 at 1:02 pm
35
PeteJayhawk says:
Ron fucking Prince.
A hearty round of slow clapping to you, gentlemen.
June 18th, 2007 at 1:02 pm
36
cocknfire says:
Tommy Bowden is mine.
Part of me wants to take Snake Saban, but that’ll get old before too long, while Tommy Bowden will always be a despisable character whining about “I’d get fired for winning seven games” and then getting his butt stomped by Kentucky.
Yes, I’m biased. But there’s something annoying about the man beyond just being head coach of the Clemmons Tiggers.
June 18th, 2007 at 1:02 pm
37
DevilGrad says:
I don’t like curly fries and don’t eat them. But I hear they’re great — just like everything else at Burnie Streeter’s Arby’s on Rockville Pike.
Re point #15, I’ve got Frank Solich but reserve the right to sub him out for Lawrence Phillips if/when Solich hires that jackass as his new running backs coach and criminal justice consultant.
June 18th, 2007 at 1:09 pm
38
Robert says:
I’m down with Tommy Bowden, for the sole reason that Tiger fans love to bitch about him and his 8-4 records. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, there should be a Tommy Bowden Corollary to the Chan Gailey Law: the Tigers will always go 8-4 (preemptive shot, Clempson fans..this may or may not include beating my Gamecocks–doesn’t matter–still 8-4).
June 18th, 2007 at 1:09 pm
39
PJ from NU in SF says:
Active coaches? Tressel, by a fanny pack. Active + potential hires? Tressel v. Barnett. Coin flip in a diner 20 miles from nowhere.
And frankly, DirecTV between Chans. 305 and 360 is a vast wasteland – unless there’s a Homicide rerun on Sleuth, or the Cubs are on WGN. Otherwise, it’s MTVH1, talking heads, old sitcoms, and game shows over there.
I can’t wait until the 770s come back…. two months and a-counting!
June 18th, 2007 at 1:12 pm
40
Travis Swenson says:
Can #15 be the coach of your own team?
June 18th, 2007 at 1:14 pm
41
Domer Guy says:
New Math: Thank you, but I can’t take credit. I’m fairly certain I first saw the “Lllllloyd” pronoun used on this site, or if not here, then Blue-Gray Sky, House Rock Built, CNN, or the NYT. Fairly certain.
June 18th, 2007 at 1:16 pm
42
CoolerCzar says:
What the hell is Matt talking about with Richt? Didn’t the man just take his entire family to Honduras for a mission trip. Not sure how that falls into the “baby fucking” category, but to each his own. I’m not saying you have to love the man, but of all the coaches out there, at least at this point, it seems like hating Richt is akin to calling Les Miles a snazzy dresser… it just doesn’t make sense.
June 18th, 2007 at 1:16 pm
43
Elmer Fudd Gantry says:
It is Fulmer all day and all night.
As for Saban, he would kick all your asses between bites of his 5:05-5:07am Bagel, bitches.
June 18th, 2007 at 1:17 pm
44
RaginCajunRebel says:
I’m in. Although I also think I would do a great job as Orgeron’s translator.
Also, if I were a hot dog and was starving, I would eat myself.
June 18th, 2007 at 1:24 pm
45
NDTom says:
Willet, do tell what school you root for so that we might marvel at the I-AA and [W/M]AC power houses on their schedule
June 18th, 2007 at 1:26 pm
46
LemmeHearYaSayWarEagle says:
#8, Fulmer is a noted fan of Cracker Barrel. I think he takes his wife there for special occasions.
June 18th, 2007 at 1:33 pm
47
DevilGrad says:
Re #41: I’m pretty Subcommandante Wayne can’t take credit for it either, but he did try to turn it in for independent study credit in English at OSU-Lima.
June 18th, 2007 at 1:34 pm
48
PeterPumpkinhead says:
Thanks LHYSWE! I’ll save that one for a mid-season switch-up. You know, after I do my self-scouting.
June 18th, 2007 at 1:37 pm
49
Brewster Crew says:
There’s no way to pick just one coach to hate in a world with Ferentz, Bielema, and Carr.
And conference wars are depressing. There’s something for everyone. When I want to watch speeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed, I turn on the SEC on CBS. When I want something comforting like an old blanket, the Big Ten it is (run, run, incomplete, punt. Just like high school…). And when I want to satisfy my inner “NCAA Football 200x” on live TV, I can watch the Pac 10 and football/artistic impression of a recently declawed cat.
June 18th, 2007 at 1:37 pm
50
fife in pdx says:
“Second to Pete Carol…
Smug bastard.”
id be smug too if i coached a college team with nfl players (in talent and contract standing) and worked in a position that you were basically unable to take down.
i guess, in the long run, nobody is untouchable but seeing how apartment-gate never came close to bringing down SuC i dont see why not
June 18th, 2007 at 1:39 pm
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jebushchrist says:
As much as I love it, I will never again use the term babyfucker here at EDSBS. I apologize for it’s use, and misuse, in this thread. I do not apologize for my Tressel hate. I hate him so much that I want to get a small prematurely graying dog, name it The Jim Tressel, put it in a tiny sweater vest, short-sleeved shirt and a tie, and punt the little bastard into a bonfire.
June 18th, 2007 at 1:44 pm
52
PeterPumpkinhead says:
Tying things all back together, I have a friend with a yorkie she dresses up in a red sweatervest with a big black G on the back… and the visual of it flying through the air into a large bonfire just made me fall out of my chair.
Are we going to get an answer on the Richt thing????
June 18th, 2007 at 1:50 pm
53
Orson Swindle says:
No. But the gesture had to be made.
June 18th, 2007 at 1:56 pm
54
JIm Harbaugh Scramble says:
jebus i wish to join you in your good fight against the devil incaranate, jim tressel.
his sweatervest is from hell, and his success is clearly tied to some unethical deal with the devil.
dollars to donuts says if you shave his head you’ll find 666.
June 18th, 2007 at 1:59 pm
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rebel84 says:
I agree with No. 1 and the Conference Wars thing. As a fan of a team that likes to finish at the bottom of my conference, arguing the SEC’s overall strength is typically the only leg we have to stand on, and I hate it.
My team sucks so bad that I don’t care what the other 11 of you do. If and when we ever win again, I won’t care what the other 11 of you do either. All I care about is whether or not I’m happy on Saturdays, not whether you’re happy.
June 18th, 2007 at 2:02 pm
56
Jonathan says:
Peter, there is no answer on the Richt thing, otherwise somebody else on here would have heard something…
As for #15 I have to take Tuberville, he just annoys the hell out of me, and I don’t even hate Auburn, just the coach.
June 18th, 2007 at 2:05 pm
57
bhors says:
#47
There is no independent study English offered at OSU-Lima. Believe me. Actually, they don’t offer shit for classes there. My dad made me go there my freshman year so he could continue making me work 60 hour weeks on third shift in a fucking 100 degree factory.
June 18th, 2007 at 2:05 pm
58
Billy in Baton Rouge says:
I’m going to have to be a hate bigamist between the Titan of Humanitarianism out in L.A. and The GQ Man of Alabama.
June 18th, 2007 at 2:08 pm
59
Jonathan says:
Oh and Orson for #8 how do you explain Jacksonville? Always the team with the better talent won? I think there may be a couple of exceptions
June 18th, 2007 at 2:09 pm
60
drogue says:
TIme out everyone. Let’s think about this.
Orson goes to Vegas, and comes out the following Monday detoxed proposing a new Rodney King ‘can’t we all just get along’ philosophy?
Who is filling in for Orson, and when is he really coming back from Vegas? Was he whacked with a baseball bat and buried in a shallow grave?
June 18th, 2007 at 2:10 pm
61
Billy in Baton Rouge says:
While I’m thinking about it Orson — any particular rule on players that are objects of scorn? I don’t any in mind at the moment ~ but I’d like to know how many I’m entitled to if I’m going to have to choose.
June 18th, 2007 at 2:11 pm
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jebushchrist says:
I looked diligently into the Mark Richt ‘thing’, since I feel partially responsible for the comment, and I have found nothing that says he’s anything but a decent human being and a cheap Bobby Bowden knock-off.
June 18th, 2007 at 2:12 pm
63
Michael says:
Low-hanging fruit is the tastiest. Unfortunately, college football doesn’t have the equivalent of Joe Morgan…at least since Beano Cook lost his column.
June 18th, 2007 at 2:14 pm
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Whitey says:
Drogue -
Good point… has TCOAN posted since then either?
Morrocan hookers and absinthe are not a good mix.
Fife – are you in “agreeance” then?
June 18th, 2007 at 2:14 pm
65
PB at BON says:
Michael, you were mentioned by name for a reason.
You’ve got the Stewie Thoughts patented. You’re excepted from the rule.
Somebody needs to do it. Just not everybody.
June 18th, 2007 at 2:18 pm
66
Robert says:
“…and I have found nothing that says he’s anything but a decent human being and a cheap Bobby Bowden knock-off.”
These statements are contradictory, Jebus.
June 18th, 2007 at 2:19 pm
67
Stacy Keibler Luvs Me says:
Un-Beweevable Dept:
If my fuzzy calculations are correct, it looks like USC’s Pete-Irishman- Carroll is leading the ad hominem list with five or so votes, followed closely by Saban and Tressel, with four each, or so, each.
Boggles the mind that a Joker like Weis is not leading this thing. Smug, check….hype for no reason, check…Zero bowl game winners, check….Rosy O’Donnell look-a-like, check…
Maybe the West Coast vote will come late in the day, given that the East coast has had a three hour headstart in the day.
.
June 18th, 2007 at 2:26 pm
68
Holly says:
My virulent hatred for Weis surpasses my hatred for any coach since Spurrier skedaddled, but I feel strange about expending so much energy to crack on a guy we haven’t played in two years.
June 18th, 2007 at 2:31 pm
69
Dave K. says:
I hated Petrino …but he left. I’ll go with Weiss, just for the aesthetic horror he forces on people that have to look at him.
June 18th, 2007 at 2:38 pm
70
jebushchrist says:
#65:
Hey, I tried to say something pleasant because the guy was wrongfully accused of being a pederast. Admittedly, I’m not good at being nice.
I don’t like the guy but he’s not a rapist (probably).
Are you happy?
June 18th, 2007 at 2:39 pm
71
crabs says:
I find it hard to believe that Saban is not running away with this thing. If he wore a sweater vest would he be getting more votes?
Maybe he could take some of his millions and have a closetful of customized, moob-friendly crimson sweater vests made.
June 18th, 2007 at 2:44 pm
72
DevilGrad says:
Re #57: I feel your pain. I spent spring break my freshman year working at the “great temp job” my dad lined up for me — picking up litter and roadkill along I-75 between Lima and Wapak.
I will say this, though. No matter how shitty college got after that, I *never* considered dropping out.
June 18th, 2007 at 2:45 pm
73
Trojan Chica says:
Finally lunchtime on the West coast, and yeah, I hate Jabba the Weis!
June 18th, 2007 at 2:47 pm
74
Orson Swindle says:
Drogue–
No fuzzies here. We just want different targets this year. Detox hasn’t rendered us completely toothless.
June 18th, 2007 at 2:53 pm
75
drogue says:
Ok, that sounds like you. I was worried.
June 18th, 2007 at 2:56 pm
76
Papa Lou BSU says:
#45, you mean MAC powerhouses, like the one that took the Michigan team that punked your ass by four TDs *in South Bend* to the wire in the Big House? (That particular MAC powerhouse went 5-7, by the way).
The last time I checked, MAC and WAC teams have had more Top 10 finishes this decade than ND. Just sayin.’
If non-BCS clubs (again, aside from the academies) don’t have enough marquee glitz for ND’s fan base, fine. Just do us all a favor and quit pretending that your objections to MAC and WAC teams are based on anything but name recognition.
June 18th, 2007 at 3:04 pm
77
Domer Guy says:
As an added promise, I will refrain from replying to ND bashers with the preferred response of: “Our coach may be fat, and we may not have won bowl games in the last 15 years, but at least we provide a world-class education to our players, graduate nearly all of them, play real teams (yes, Army and Navy >> Youngstown State and Akron, tOSU) and run a clean program.”
Instead, I will respond with a simple “GFY.”
June 18th, 2007 at 3:06 pm
78
spartymike says:
Actually, I still choose John L. Smith, even though he’s unemployed.
If I could, I’d spend any excess campaign war chest funds on making commercials pointing out how shitty a coach he is…kinda like those SNL spoof commercials.
June 18th, 2007 at 3:15 pm
79
Stacy Keibler Luvs Me says:
Domer Guy #77: Interesting set of lies you gotta keep telling yourself just to stay in the “we are still relevant in college footbaww” game. (Regarding your funny response to Domer realists/critics – it is not possible to do anatomically impossible things to yourself.)
June 18th, 2007 at 3:16 pm
80
nathan says:
what? No Simmons jokes? That’s like when Dylan married Antonia in 90210!!!!
June 18th, 2007 at 3:18 pm
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drogue says:
While you’re recrafting the guidelines, would it be possible to have a Fulmer Cup Masters Division? Points wouldn’t need to be tracked, but with people like Adam Jones, 2 Vicks, etal. out there, their respective institutes of higher learning could at least garner some recognition.
June 18th, 2007 at 3:22 pm
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Robert says:
Uhh Jeebus, I was trying to make a joke about Bobby Bowden. I guess it wasn’t funny, so yeah I think I am a little unhappy.
June 18th, 2007 at 3:26 pm
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PW says:
Why is everyone so concerned about coach-hate?
The more important proposal is #1, “no participation in conference wars.” What the hell kinda college football blog you runnin’ here, Swindle?
June 18th, 2007 at 3:26 pm
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PeterPumpkinhead says:
A Swiss one… duh
June 18th, 2007 at 3:38 pm
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Oops Pow Surprise says:
#83, as Norm MacDonald likes to call it, Nazi Germany
June 18th, 2007 at 3:49 pm
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PW says:
Seriously, you guys are as creative as hell with the Fulmer Cup, Cheesecake Fridays, SubCom Wayne, and whatnot, but I’m gonna go out on a limb and say there’s no way a college football blog can survive without unsubstantiated* claims of conference supremacy.
*- except 41-14, which = substantiation
June 18th, 2007 at 4:03 pm
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dogtown gator says:
Throwing my vote to [NAME REDACTED]. Fuck you and your improvement. You made me root against my own team. That’s unforgivable (but improvable!).
I still despise Bobby Bowden. But after 4 straight wins(i’m counting refgate), he seems kinda toothless and bloated and ready with adult diapers.
June 18th, 2007 at 4:06 pm
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Paragon SC says:
#77
Only losers like to bring up “world class education”. Blah blah blah, as if we all care. Go cry me a river.
This isn’t applied physics or organic chemistry we’re watching so I guess I’m not sure why it is such a big deal. As long as they pass their classes and stay eligible what’s the big deal.
So STFU.
Win something then lets talk.
June 18th, 2007 at 4:07 pm
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Holly says:
Regarding Rule #1: This is because we’re all just going to accept the inherent superiority of the SEC, year in and year out, as natural law, right? *serpentining very rapidly out of the room*
June 18th, 2007 at 4:15 pm
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jebushchrist says:
I begrudgingly agree with the previous comment.
June 18th, 2007 at 4:22 pm
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Kakistocrat says:
I hated rule #15 at first, but after reading the comment thread I’m kind of sick of the coach attacks (except CP McSV and Carroll–those’ll never get old). It still sucks, though, because I still have to hear SKLM make those stupid fat jokes about Weis (of course they’re still funny when directed at Fulmer).
If you live up to it, then I’m really gonna miss the Fulmer/Saban/Carroll/[NR] jokes this year.
June 18th, 2007 at 4:36 pm
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fife in pdx says:
@77
id like to quote james caan in the program here:
“when was the last time 80,000 people showed up to watch a kid do a damn chemistry experiment? Why don’t you stick the bow-tie up your ass? ”
TW wasnt fat, graduated players, and had class, but that wasnt good enough huh?
June 18th, 2007 at 4:40 pm
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NDTom says:
“We almost beat a team that beat you! We are teh awseome!” but if I were to mention how close ND came to beating USC in 05 you’d be the first to crucify me.
I don’t contest that there are mid-major schools out there that can be good, but when was the last time Directional Michigan sniffed the top 50.
June 18th, 2007 at 4:42 pm
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JoesDeliGatorTail says:
Dogtown Gator: Dont worry, even if its not improvable its still “correctable.” God do I despise [NAME REDACTED].
June 18th, 2007 at 4:42 pm
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oc phil says:
No it is just a case of the conference wars getting really boring and nobody is going to change their mind at this point.
I’ll have to have my vote in the hatred poll counted towards Wies, only becuase his achievment to cockyness ratio is so out of whack.
June 18th, 2007 at 4:45 pm
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LSUJoshua says:
91 + posts and Tommy Tuberville is still on the board and is all mine. I hate that cigar smoking, bitch ass smirking, big ear having punk. Can’t believe that nincomepoop fell all the way to me. It’s just the way I want it. Tuberville and my cold black heart full of hate, what a wonderful couple.
June 18th, 2007 at 4:46 pm
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PW says:
Re: Rule 12:
Can we still end conversations with did you play football in the *SEC*? Or does that violate both rules 1 and 12?
(I know this is prolly gonna diminish my commenting cred, but I’m admitting that I don’t know how to italicize stuff, so I use the lame-ass asterisk-on-each-end trick)
June 18th, 2007 at 4:50 pm
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Holly says:
Tuberville and my cold black heart full of hate, what a wonderful couple.
This should appear in the press packet.
June 18th, 2007 at 4:55 pm
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Sam says:
I’m sacrificing my 2008 first-round pick, to take Rick Neuheisel in the supplemental draft for 2009, or whenever he manages to con the next unsuspecting AD into funding his personal Venezuelan slush fund. Why? Because fuck that guy.
June 18th, 2007 at 5:10 pm
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Vairish84 says:
Does this mean you won’t be making fun of Ron Zook anymore or will it just be without hatred?
Shouldn’t there be a rule this year (and hopefully we will only need it for one year for the right reason) demanding every college fan remember, pray, hope, sacrifice virgins [insert religious/pagan practice of your choosing here], for the health of Terry Hoepner? You may think the Orgeron is tough, but this man coached a couple of weeks after open brain surgery.
June 18th, 2007 at 5:26 pm
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Jerkwheat says:
#93
Last year’s Central Michigan Chippewas?
June 18th, 2007 at 5:37 pm
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DevilGrad says:
Re #93 et supra: It’s bad enough around here to be unfunny; it’s unforgivable to be both dull and wrong.
As noted above, Central would have been in most reasonable top 50s last year, since they won the MAC and — in a concept that may be unfamiliar to you — their bowl game. Western also went to a bowl game last year.
Still, I fully understand your bug-bear against the “mid-majors.” Just for grins, I looked at old AP polls (on the theory that the writers, of all people, most love Notre Dame’s history and reputation) and discovered that only once in this century has Notre Dame finished higher in the final AP poll than the top-ranked mid-major. No wonder those guys want “your” BCS slot. Fuckin’ peasants!
(And now I promise y’all that I’ll go back to making cheap jokes. Thanks for your indulgence.)
June 18th, 2007 at 6:25 pm
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LD says:
Week 12 in last year’s Coaches’ Poll, Central Michigan too a single vote. Good enough for 37th.
Needless to say, the initial argument was about “MAC and WAC” teams, not just the directional Michigan schools.
Limiting to just MAC and WAC schools:
In 2006’s final polls, Boise State (WAC) finished ahead of ND.
In 2005’s final polls, ND finished ahead of any MAC or WAC school.
In 2004’s final polls, Boise State (WAC), Fresno State (WAC), Bowling Green (MAC), Northern Illinois (MAC), UTEP (then-WAC), and Hawaii (WAC) all received more votes than ND.
In 2003’s final polls, Miami (MAC), Boise State (WAC), Bowling Green (MAC), Northern Illinois (MAC), Marshall (then-MAC), and Fresno State (WAC) all received more votes than ND.
So once in the last 4 years has Notre Dame finished higher in the polls than any of the MAC or WAC teams.
June 18th, 2007 at 6:30 pm
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DevilGrad says:
BTW, I am now going to go re-read Orson’s post about escaping death at the hands of Beano Cook in case I have arouse the anger of the many-chinned god.
June 18th, 2007 at 6:32 pm
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Jerkwheat says:
awwww—never thought I’d see such impassioned support for my alma mater here on EDSBS (Central).
June 18th, 2007 at 7:23 pm
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NewAZTiger says:
#27 – you’re being really unfair in that equation. When you multiply anything by zero you get zero.
Saban vs Cheatypants McSweatervest: It’s clear that a Sweatervest garnishes more hate than a 4 million dollar man wearing sansabelt pants, the same suit to everything, and as a bonus, is shorter thanTerry Bowden. Oh, and he has that butt-haircut to boot.
However, I won’t take the easy road with 5aban. I’m going to think about Mike Stoops and Ty Willingham for my 15 minutes, and at the last second probably declare my hate for Gene Chizik. Fuck them Cyclones, Bitches.
June 18th, 2007 at 8:11 pm
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NewAZTiger says:
And, where, pray-tell, are the Razorbacks declaring hatred for their own coach? This whole draft thing is not complete until some guy with a great username (Hello SwineonYouCrazyDiamond) declares his total hatred for the Cracked Nutt.
June 18th, 2007 at 8:14 pm
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Digital Headbutt says:
I also refuse to participate in conference wars, if for no other reason than that my conference (the ACC) would get its ass kicked.
And as for a coach to hate, I’ll go with Bill Callahan. I never really liked Nebraska (who gave my team the incomparable Joe Dailey), and his hiring rendered the classic option offense extinct in major college football.
June 18th, 2007 at 9:32 pm
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Corn Nation says:
Dan Hawkins!
Wait. How the hell you going to limit it to one coach only? That sucks.
and rules? You’re giving yourself rules? Did Orin Hatch come by your house recently? Wtf?
June 18th, 2007 at 9:35 pm
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Erik says:
Am I allowed to hate the entire Family Stoops?
June 18th, 2007 at 10:04 pm
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Jonathan says:
#96 I claimed him at #56, but thanks for the support
June 18th, 2007 at 10:07 pm
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Andy says:
Urban Meyer.
June 18th, 2007 at 10:46 pm
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DC Trojan says:
I’m running a little late to this party, but re: rule 15… I just don’t think it’s possible. I can see picking one season-long target, and then having a “Schrute-bag of the week” coaching award following the weekend’s games for someone who gave your main target a run for their money. Sort of like Huggy Low-Down’s “Bama of the week,” for those of you in the DC area…
June 19th, 2007 at 12:02 am
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Herb says:
I’d like to say Callahan for what he’s done to the option at Nebraska, but that would mean agreeing with a Carolina fan (and I hope Harrison Beck turns out better for us than Joe Dailey did for UNC).
I’m going to have to go with Fulmer, since I actually like UT, but can’t stand him. I can still indirectly hate on Bobby Bowden by hating on Free Shoes University.
June 19th, 2007 at 8:26 am
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Jon hates Russian spammers and UofA says:
Will UCLA fans pick Pete Carroll or Karl Dorrell?
June 19th, 2007 at 9:24 am
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DC Trojan says:
#115, I believe they’re having an off-site meeting today in order to make a decision. They have a lot of material either way.
June 19th, 2007 at 12:41 pm
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Raider Red says:
I can’t believe Mack Brown (aka Sherriff Rosco, Butterteeth, King Trapdoor, Mac3) lasted this long. My Schadenfreude knows no bounds when the Longhorns lose…it’s so wonderful to see someone put their hand on the back of his neck* for a change.
* A most condescending form of the postgame handshake. It says, “My what a feisty little team you’ve got. A pity we had to smoke you by 4 TDs.”
June 19th, 2007 at 12:50 pm
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Flop says:
Tressel. For all the reasons Jebus mentioned. Grr.
June 19th, 2007 at 1:17 pm
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John says:
Ill take a immediate no questions asked acceptance of Lllllllloyd Carr as my Hate Coach.
Id pick Bo….but….well…Carr is actually the coach. ah hell…fuck em both.
June 19th, 2007 at 4:17 pm
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CLTDawg says:
I take one Steven O Spurrier – a load that should have been swallowed. That jerk off pwn3d us for years – and may still yet again.
And about the Richt “thing” – just a pissed off Tech nerd that knows they will never beat us as long as he is our coach.
June 19th, 2007 at 7:19 pm