EDSBS LIVE! THE NOTRE DAME SHOW.

Does ND exist?

Someone sure thinks so:

http://bluegraysky.blogspot.com/2007_06_01_archive.html#2851398231967013670

1. No.

2. Yes.

3. They’re Catholic.

4. If she/it looked like Katherine Heigl, then yes. Otherwise no.

Sorry, Momma. They was askin’ for it.

1. Yes, but as 1988 fades in the rearview it becomes much more difficult.
2. Not as of late. However, I would posit that the grief IS proportional with future crimes that are inevitable should ND ever win another MNC. Sorry, I guess I just mooted my own point…
3. Diagonal stripes in the endzone. Very cool.
4. Uh. No.

WHERE DA GOLD AT???

Rats, ND Time:

1. ND–do you care?
Of course! They are USC’s main rival. It is the most pleasurable win of the regular season for me.

 2. Is the grief ND fans endure proportional to the crimes?,
ND fans are the most arrogant (have you seen the MUG on Weiss?) and deserve all of their grief. Willingham, a good man, not a great coach, was run out of town without any dignity, typically given to others there in similar circumstances.

3. What do you like about ND? If anything?
Montana. Total class act.

4.Would you sleep with a leprechaun?
Never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never…..

1. Irish? Check. Catholic? Check. K of C? Check? Alumna? Check. I guess that would be a yes.

2. Sure. Why not? We can take it! Half the fun of being a Notre Dame fan is being a lightning rod for flaming.

3. A. Named after Our Lady.
Hot Latin American ladies sent to America for schooling by their parents. Needed a Norwegian Lutheran to really become popular.

4. As long as it was Kathy Ireland. To quote Dennis Leary, “I’d like to be in Ireland right now!”

1) Yes – fantastic rivalry game from the get-go, and a public service to college footballs fans – because no-one is neutral on either team, and the only people disappointed are the ones waiting for the field to split in two and swallow the teams whole.

2) Yes – them calling SC fans smug is Freud’s narcissism of small differences in college football form (though Bama – Auburn is a more virulent version of same).

3) Um… “Like” would be overstating it. But respect, sure; after all, we all have our areas of delusional hope.

4) Not a chance. I’d be willing to bet that any fierce competition to be the ND leprechaun is to have an official excuse for not getting laid.

1. ND–do you care?
Hell no. Emphasis on both hell and no.

2. Is the grief ND fans endure proportional to the crimes?
Does the Pope wear a funny hat? Do bears shit in the woods? Does the Pope shit in the woods while doing a polka with a dancing bear? (Answers to all 3 questions: yes)

3. What do you like about ND? If anything?
Absolutely, positively nothing.

4.Would you sleep with a leprechaun?
Well, it has to be a well proportioned female leprechaun (read: cheesecake) and the carpet must match the drapes!

1. 1. ND–do you care?
Yes, Only because we are playing them this season, and it was our bad (GT) that Rudy is what he is today.

2. Is the grief ND fans endure proportional to the crimes?
I don’t know how much grief they can claim…but in that light, I don’t care about them beyond how it relates to me.

3. What do you like about ND? If anything?
I see no hotties, no whiskey, and nothing cool in that video. Also, this girl in the office next to me went to ND and she’s the biggest tool I’ve met in a long time. She entraps me in the most inane discussions such as “should I take the bus or rent a car?” or “how far is it to Portsmouth, NH from Baltimore?” or “Would you like my rotten banana?” or “my parents are weird.” SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY. Jesus I hope she doesn’t read this blog. I don’t think she does. We’ll see!

4. I dont think that its possible to sleep with a leprechaun. But if you mean “ND student” the answer is NO SIR. It’s just something about that place that weirds me out.

1. Of course not. I turn the channel every time something ND related comes on.

2. Growing up in SC and residing in NC, the answer is, “I don’t know.” We don’t worry too much about Notre Dame, one way or the other. However, I did attend law school with a ND alum, and I dislike that guy, tremendously. When I told him that I enjoyed kicking his high school football team’s ass during my, “glory days,” he responded that, his “high school’s soccer team was better than mine.” Really, you are proud of that?

3.That Notre Dame allowed Lou Holtz to sign Tony Rice. The guy could not read or write. Seriously.

4. Only if a donkey and some electrical hedge trimmers were involved. I will not budge on my terms.

1) Elie Wiesel once stated that it was not hate that was the opposite of love, but indifference.
i am not sure what that means in this discussion, but I am pretty indifferent to ND till we play them.

2) Yeah, Having never been north of madison county, I just assume they are like Bama fans with different accents.

3) the Uniforms, the History, The whole Irish thing, and the Old school stadium. That’s all.

4) Kiera Knightly would make a nice leprachaun

5) I wanted to post this under the goldenflake thread, but my studies prevented me from doing so until there were already 100+ responses.
Whereever you live, do whatever it takes to get your hands on a bag of Golden Flake Sweet Heat potato chips. If you live outside of the south, maybe there is a website or something, but they are awesome.

…wait, Golden Flake isn’t national is it?

1. Yes, they can steal Big East bowl games. The simple threat of this loss of conference revenue and press means that they exist.

2. Probably not – they catch all sorts of shit for being anything less than perfect. I’m not saying they don’t relish the attention, but most teams are fortunate enough to stay off the radar when they’re having an “off” year.

3. I don’t mind their basketball team. At least, I don’t hate them as much as Villa-no-fun or Pitt.

4. My ex was 5’5". Since I’m pushing 5’10", does this count?

Stupid airplanes making me miss EDSBS Live.

1. 1. ND–do you care?
yeah, I kind of have a slight obsession. Started when my dad put me in a “I Hate Penn State” t-shirt (complete with the lephrechaun strangling the nittany lion) when I was five.

2. Is the grief ND fans endure proportional to the crimes?
If I could rid the world of the annoying ND fans, life would be more pleasant for me (and pretty much everybody else too). From my perspective though, I don’t think it is warranted since most of the people who give me shit about ND can’t give me one reason why they hate ND; they just do.

3. What do you like about ND? If anything?
Gameday at ND is like home to me. I’m going to go with Officer McCarthy’s public service announcements/puns during the 4th quarter about drunk driving as one of my favorites though.

4.Would you sleep with a leprechaun?
Depends. Is she housebroken?

1. ND–do you care? Used to. Rooted for them back in the Homeland while all my classmates chose up sides for OSU or UM. Nowadays, not at all.

2. Is the grief ND fans endure proportional to the crimes? The actual alums are disproportionately tortured. The sidewalk fans (aka Yankee fans in drag) deserve everything they get and more.

3. What do you like about ND? If anything? The classic unis, and the big-ass drum that the band hauls around the field.

4.Would you sleep with a leprechaun? Having never seen a female leprechaun, I’ll go with no. If we make “leprechaun” a catch-all term to encompass redheaded Irishwomen, then count me in.

Are there such things as female leprechauns??

1. Sadly, yes. Probably too much.
2. Yes.
3. outdoor dancefloors and poetry readings
4. ew. no.

1. I graduated from Michigan in 1990, so yes I care since ND won 4 straight from 1987 to 1990.

2. ND fans need and deserve any and all pain that they receive. If there is a just god, that bowl losing streak is only about 1/4 of the way done.

3. The interior of the basilica.

4. Yep.

Is that a preemptive apology Hol?

1. ND–do you care?
Yes and it is TW’s fault.

2. Is the grief ND fans endure proportional to the crimes?,
No and it is TW’s fault.

3. What do you like about ND? If anything?
Nothing, and that is TW’s fault.

4.Would you sleep with a leprechaun?
I have, but TW pimped her out so its his fault.

I think I pretty much summed up what any ND fan would say.

1. ND–do you care?
No. Don’t hate ND, don’t like them, just don’t care if I ever hear or read about another thing ND.

2. Is the grief ND fans endure proportional to the crimes?
Without a doubt.

3. What do you like about ND? If anything?
Let go of me Lucky Charms.

4.Would you sleep with a leprechaun?
If she was cute enough and I wasn’t married, I’d probably give her the South Bend.

1. About as much as I care about Rick Moranis’ genealogy.

2. Yes, you get your own National TV Contract, you earned it. Cry, you pussies, cry.

3. I guess the tradition is to be respected… for a northern school..

4. One did talk funny…

1. ND–do you care?
Have to. Got lots of Domers around me.

2. Is the grief ND fans endure proportional to the crimes?
Yes and no.

Yes, in that if you’re going to play the “we’re ND and you’re not” card all the time, be prepared for blowback. Ditto if your school sucks up more than its fair share of media oxygen whether it’s earned it on the field or not. And personally, yes, if your message boards continue to bash the MAC whilst refusing to look in the mirror (newsflash, Domers, that certain MAC team from downstate that you love to bash Michigan for playing scored more points on the Wolverines in Ann Arbor than you did in South Bend last season, and gave them a much better game to boot — an 8-pt. game that went to the game’s final minutes vs. a four-TD blowout — so STFU about the MAC already…thank you, kindly…)

No, when the grief takes the form of ripping on the NBC contract (as if your school wouldn’t do the same thing in a nanosecond given the chance and as if most BCS conference TV deals and bowl tie-ins aren’t equally as greedy). Or when a 9-2 ND team is bashed for getting a BCS at-large bid while no one says boo about a four-loss ACC team taking up an automatic slot. Or when people rip on them playing the service academies (the reason behind the Navy rivalry is pretty compelling, furthermore, no fan of a team that schedules Western Carolina or Sam Houston State should be running their mouths about other teams’ scheduling… just saying).

3. What do you like about ND? If anything?
The gameday traditions are really cool. The fact that they have a university-sanctioned student bar on campus. Club 23.

4.Would you sleep with a leprechaun?
Only if the leprechaun was willing to cuddle.

1. With the passion of a 1,000 Spartans (real ones, not those in East Lansing.

2. (biased) NO… but I find it amusing everytime there is a “Why should we care about ND” article… if you didn’t care, why write the article?

3. The smell of the service groups cookout/fund raisers on campus. The Grotto… walking past Holy Cross Seminary and my dad saying, “If I’d stuck with it, YOU wouldn’t be here.”

4. I subscribe to the Body Count theory on this… "If you’re from Mars and have a…

MOST importantly…

CBG – EX-Boyfriend?

1. -

you sure you’re not thinking of Purdue, Home of the World’s Largest Drum™?

1. Yes, I care – and anyone who says otherwise,(especially those who believe ND deserves all the grief they receive) is lying – college football is much better because of Notre Dame

2. No – just a bunch of jealous haters out there – it is understandable though

3. The Tradition, the campus, and the game day atmosphere all come to mind

4. In the worst way

1. Yes. It’s fun to root for the last bastion of purity in the CFB world. It’s nice havign the most NC’s and Heismans (tied yes, but for how long?) in the country. No, ‘Bama, you can’t have another one.

2. Good lord yes. When was the last time you hear about a flaming couch or feces-filled styrofoam cooler in the parkign lot? Huh? You do’nt have to destroy things to have a good time.

3. Tradition, Gameday atmosphere, the shitload of trophies, the drinking (of which you all doubt occurs) the brats on the grill, the band Marching into the stadium, beating Southern Cal, singing the alma mater, great games. etc.

4. No, I don’t swing that way

Re: #16 DG

The big drum belongs to Purdue.

#23—
unfortunately, the bar on campus isn’t Club 23. That wonderful dive is about two miles south of campus (Umphrey’s Magee basically got their start there in one form or another). The one on campus has gone through many iterations (I think it is called “Legends” now), most being shitty, thtough it was a great place to drink my senior year when we knew all of the bartenders and they had a membership program

According to this website, female leprechauns do not exist:

http://members.tripod.com/~pg4anna/Leps.htm

1. 1. ND–do you care?
Yes. They are an integral part of CFB, and I have some people close to me that love ND, so I guess I HAVE to care.

2. Is the grief ND fans endure proportional to the crimes?
Subway alum cannot suffer enough.

3. What do you like about ND? If anything?
It’s a great academic institution and the dorm residents make excellent bratwurst before the games.

1. No
2. I’d like to say no, but then I remember that every Notre Dame fan is a cocksucker.
3. Other than Lou Holtz’s lisp? Nothing.
4. As long as she’s got a firecrotch and that deliciously septic accent, yeah, I’d give her a taste of me Lucky Charms.

1. Yes. Say what you will, ND is up there on the college football hierarchy. Therefore, I care. Watching them beat UT in ‘04 and ’05 was pretty sweet too(please don’t lob any “C” words at me). I also feel a bit obligated since I’m Irish.

2. Probably not, but it’s always fun to laugh and point at someone else. Especially the Domers that take themselves and their school way too seriously.

3. Touchdown Jesus. Someday he’s going to come down off of that wall, and travel the world with Knute Rockne preaching the gloriousness of college football.

4. Only if I get paid with a pot of gold, or a badass magical shillelagh.

1. Yes. They are one of USC’s tougher game, so that helps everyone in tough conferences. and they are an old school powerhouse.

2. Grief? I guess I failed to notice the 5 minutes of grief over the Willingham fire relative to the non-stop ND love fest that seems to happen every year. I’m a Bama fan so I don’t think anyone gets half the grief we get.
3. Cool uniforms, great tradition, the movie Rudy

4. Literally fuck, no, but I’d “fuck” him metaphorically by robbing him of his gold.

1. Yes – As a fan of college football, Notre Dame is not only relevant but absolutely necessary.

2. Yes and No, depending on where you live. In the midwest and south, notre dame gets a bad rep. In the northeast, they get what they deserve. In the west, i have no idea.

3. They’re catholic and they’re drunks, I support both.

4. In the 60s I made love to many, many women – often outdoors in the mud and the rain – and it’s possible that a leprechaun slipped in. There’d be no way of knowing…

“unfortunately, the bar on campus isn’t Club 23. That wonderful dive is about two miles south of campus (Umphrey’s Magee basically got their start there in one form or another). The one on campus has gone through many iterations (I think it is called "Legends" now), most being shitty, thtough it was a great place to drink my senior year when we knew all of the bartenders and they had a membership program”

Oh, I’m aware Club 23 is off-campus… I meant Club 23 in addition to the bar on campus (which I’m sorry to hear has changed). I spent a portion of one football Saturday evening on the floor of Club 23 about a dozen years ago, thanks to the establishment’s industrial-grade cocktails. Glorious.

Spawning a crappy jam band like Umphrey’s McGee is definitely a strike against the place, though…

Yes, Whitey, ex. But that’s a very old ex. There’s a new rooster in the hen house now.

1. 1. ND–do you care?
Sure, they’re kind of a big deal, and they do play a lot of Big Ten teams. Plus they have purty helmets.

2. Is the grief ND fans endure proportional to the crimes?
Dunno, if smugness is a crime, there hasn’t been enough grief invented yet for them to endure…

3. What do you like about ND? If anything?
Their annual game with Michigan is the epitome of a “win-win” situation for me. Yes, one team will win, but one team WILL lose. (salivating)

Also, Chestertonlep’s wallpapers are always a bright spot for me…

4. Would you sleep with a leprechaun?
Yeah, ummm, you guys really need to start workshopping this stuff…

points for WfnVU

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/ncaa/06/05/bc.fbc.wvuarrests.ap/index.html

awww damn… ignore me… its a former player

wait… nevermind… one current and one former. I should really read the article first.

1. Yes, it is fun to root against a fan base that proclaims themselves “to be the last bastion of purity”
2. Yes, Here’s permanent ’80’s time capsule Tom Fitzgerald of KSFO. You made me truly hate nd. I always hoped for the day when the relavency of ND football was questioned.
3. I like that they hired their old waterboy as coach. But wait a second, I hate him.
4. perhaps, I hear they turn into a six-pack of beer and a roast beef sandwich afterwords

1) Yes, very much so.

2) Intersting question. My take is that the ‘grief’ that ND fans receive can be split up into two catagories.
             a) Grief immediately provided by the team itself. The heartbreaking loss to USC in ‘05, the overall incapability of Davie and Willingham for most of 8 years, the fact that this year’s senior class will have about 8-9 members, only a fraction of whom have actually set foot on the field, etc… In the grand scheme of things, pretty much every team has their fair share of this type of thing, thus it’s a non-issue.
            b) Grief provided by members of the sports media, and the fans of opposing teams who lap up everything written and/or spoken by said media members. To me, this feels similar to 1st grade, when the kid who ate crayons, and couldn’t through art class without gluing streamers to his forehead called me a ‘dumbhead’. The appropriate response is “Yeah I know…. have fun shitting in canary yellow.” Anyone who can’t similiarly let this form of ‘grief’ roll of their back is probably well deserving of it.

3. Very tough to say. I’ve been lucky enough to be able to at least 2-3 home games per season since 1988 (sometimes many more than that). I still have the feeling of intense anticipation as I drunkenly make my way from a tailgate to the stadium, culminating in a shit-eating grin accompanied by the shivers when I finally catch a glimpse of the field.

4. If I could figure out the mechanics of that… then sure.

1. Do I care?-Yes, I hope that Notre Dame loses. Every time they lose, a huge smile comes across my face.
2. Yes. I hate how Domers say they are the best at football, and when you say they aren’t then “they” blame their high academic standards. “They” refers to all those polesmokers that have ZERO affilitation with the school but would suck BQ’s dick if given the chance. I’m Irish, Catholic, drunk, and live about 3 hours from ND and can’t stand all the dipshits that say “we” “our” “us” when referring to them. Did you go there? no. Did your dad? no. Did you live in South Bend? no. Then shut the fuck up and don’t say we. No you are not allowed to root for them if you can’t name their last Heisman winner, or their last bowl victory.

3. I like that my best friend is an ND fan (who knows why) and I constantly get to make fun of him cuz Rutgers has beat more top 25 teams in the last 3 years than Notre Dame and the Robot Genius.
4. I’ve got red hair, and i guess if their were a good lookin female leppy, I wouldnt kick her outta bed for eatin crackers.

Oooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhh,
We don’t give a damn for the whole state of Michigan,
and they don’t like Ohio so
we’ll never get along with them.
But there’s one thing that we both can agree upon,
Fuuuuuuuucckkkk Notre Daaame!!

1. I care…about ND being ranked fairly with the rest of the country.

2. Hell fucking yes. Touchdown Jesus should be replaced with a sculpture of Charlie Weis’ front-ass as punishment.

3. Ok the touchdown Jesus is pretty cool.

4. Is she hot?

1. Do I care? Of course, especially since I’m hoping that Morelli doesn’t have a crap-the-bed performance in the return trip to happy valley this year.

2. They had a Heisman winner on a team that went 2-8. Things haven’t yet balanced out in that equation, and ND deserves anything bad that happens to them football-wise.

3. What I like about ND is that they’re an easy target. If they didn’t exist, there’s no way you could make them up.

4. I’ve had enough problems with the sheep around State College. I don’t want any piece of a weird person in a green suit.

1. No.
2. Yes. Until they get their real or imagined teflon coating removed and eat from the same trough as the rest of cfb, may the fleas of a thousand camels infest their nether regions…
3. One thing…my favorite UGA coed transferred from ND after her freshman year…but for that transfer, I would have endured some cold Athens nights.
4. As it has been established above that there are no female leprechans, I must admit the only erect member that holds any interest for me is my own…thus, no.

1. Yes. Everyone does whether they admit it or not, hence the question.

2. Some yes, some no.

3. Once you have stepped in that stadium, you will understand. Until you do, you have no idea.

4. I am in no position to be picky.

1. Lawya1: You mean in the backseat of a Volkswagon?

1. Unfortunately, i am of the afflicted. ND means way too much to me. i cannot view any CFB subject with rationality or perspective.
2. No, the grief is not proportional, but we can handle it a ton easier than double digit beatdowns.
3. the multiplicity of colors…are we blue and gold? green and gold? orange, white and green? navy and a kind of sunflower yellow? anything but red, a hellish color.
4. impossible. leprechauns have too much deceptive speed .

1. If “hating with the fire of a thousand burning nuns” means I care, then yes, I care about ND.

2. Absolutely. If you’re going to proclaim how awesome you are and not get results on the field (except against the service academies, and clearly if you beat a service academy YOU ARE AN ENEMY OF FREEDOM) then you deserve all the flak you get.

3. I had my first chai tea latte in South Bend. I love chai tea lattes. Otherwise, the place sucks.

4. If everything about the leprechaun is proportional to his height, then no.

I hope I’m still your sunshine, Texas Gal.

AllwhoYonder-

AllwhoYonder- “Many” iterations? Not quite. 3: there was the old Senior Bar, which was apparently some run-down house somewhere, the new Senior Bar(technically, the Alumni Senior Club), with it’s 10 dollar lifetime membership and free beers to all who were friends with the bartenders (basically, the senior class), and then they renovated it and called it Legends, sadly rendering my lifetime membership to the Alumni-Senior club moot.

1. Cheer cheer. (Yes for the unwashed.)

2. Eh, probably, given my jab above. :) I think any group of fans that is proud and defensive of its team come hell or high water deserves to be poked and prodded. ND just has the longest and best history (shush, Michigan), so there is more to poke and prod, especially given recent struggles.

3. E3Q/B4Q conducting of 1812. Irish girls with freckles. Mass at the Basilica afterwards. Lou Holtz picking enough grass to feed a herd of cows (or bag of schrutes?) Gold … glorious gold.

4. No always means yes.

1) I make such a valiant attempt to not care that I end up caring, however it’s not a passionate hatred like some have. Being that this is the 50th or so comment, I’d argue their relevance.

2) Anyone so self-important deserves anything that comes their way. I read this passage somewhere: “blessed are the righteous, for theirs is the kingdom of taking shit from everybody else” or something like that.

3) The smattering of fight/spirit songs that their band plays. Also no piping, sabres, or diamond plating on their uniforms. Tradition rocks.

4) I thought the same thing, Stranko. The answer would still be no if there were female ones only due to the fact that midgets are creepy and I can’t even imagine talking to one. OUTTA THE WAY, PECK!

crazy tom— I’s swear there was one between Senior Bar and Legends, but I could definitely be wrong on that.

Has anyone pointed out the irony to the people who answered “No” (emphatically in some cases) to question number one and yet had answers the other 3 questions (answers that were well thought out)? I’m sure most will even listen tonight.

If you don’t care about ND, then why even read past the title of this post?

I think it’s a crackhead who gotta hold of the wrong stuff.

Dante – (pointing to nose) You got it.

Indeed, there is little in life that to me is funnier than emphatic “apathy”. Apathy, by it’s very nature, is a low energy thing.

Also, I wonder if Sean realizes he said he’s a chick (#7)…

1. 58

1. Orange jelly beans

1. Hanging gerunds

1. Rick Tocchet

1. Yes, I have to being Irish and you just cant deny the history.
2. No, any school would jump on the NBC deal in a heartbeat. That, and Bama fans make them seem humble and polite.
3 Rudy, wake up the echoes, the Gipper, the four horsemen(I defy anyone to bring up a better nickname).
4. Gently

1. Yes but only as much as I care about all the teams playing my alma matters in a given year or teams in contention for the MNC (not that ND will be in the latter category this year).

2. No, ND fans get off lightly for their crimes against CFB. Every fan base contains good and bad fans of course and ND seems to have more of both than most big programs.

3. I suppose the tradition and history, but there really isn’t anything that makes them nearly as special as many of the obnoxious fans think they are.

4. No, I have a definite fondness for Irish girls, but I like ’em tall.

RE #32.3, I assume they becomes too stringy and tough from the excessive tailgate dance party to make good bratwurst after the games?

1) No, unless they are playing Michigan or State. Then, I sound like I am gunning for Ian Paisley’s job. That says something, considering that I am named in part after a monsignor, and that great-gramps was an ND trustee back in the Rockne era.

2) No, they need more punishment. Especially you, #56, for running your mouth while ignorant. (Answer me: Who did Notre Dame play in its first game? Who leads the series 19-14-1?)

3) Watching cute Irish girls cry after a heartbreaking loss, even if they’re playing the Condoms. I would agree on Jesus Christ Himself Montana, but since that Flu Bowl merely set the stage for a brilliant career with the ‘Niners, he’s out.

4) I’m the most sexually adventurous person I know, and there’s no way I’d touch one of those mutants, even if they came with girly bits. I’d tap a hobbit first.

1. Of course I care and so does a vast majority of everyone else in this country. I’ve never met anyone who doesn’t have an opinion one way or another.

2. Probably, but so does every other fan of every other team in this great nation of ours. The college football fan is amazingly capable of miscontruing, twisting and downright making up facts to support whatever “argument” they are having at the time. I have a feeling Karl Rove has learned much of his craft by frequenting college football fansites.

3. I love ND’s ability to graduate its players and provide them with a meaningful opportunity to succeed in life without football. It’s a stewardship that ND takes seriously and I love that. Until college football becomes a paid farm league for the NFL this should matter and, unfortunately, it doesn’t at most “football” schools.

4. If by leprechaun, you mean Eva Mendes, then yes.

By the way, I’m definitely callign in tonight, being an avowed ND lover. Get ready for some fun, folks.

1) As a USC West alum, yup.

2) Tom Lemming’s included, right? If so, then yes.

3) No Jumbotron in the stadium.

4) Hate fuck, sure.

1. Yes, an alumna…

2. Yes. I did not grow up an ND fan, but was converted once I arrived on campus. They have great fans, but their delusional zest for a national title is insane. Why don’t we try and get a Independence Bowl win…maybe then a Gator, maybe then a BCS…

3. Greatest gameday environment I have seen…you see families tailgating that you can tell have been doing the same thing for generations. pretty cool.

4. Do St. Mary’s girls count?

#71? Irishcane: You mean Domies have been dancing up a storm on portable parquet floors during tailgates for generations? Learn something new everyday.

1. Yes, since I’m Irish and Catholic… and I love to watch them lose to the Trojans every year. Even that one year, when it looked like they’d won, and then they didn’t.

2. Damn yes. According to my esteemed mother, ND football is so shitty because God is punishing them for not being a “real” Catholic school.

3. The Four Horseman (and the Seven Mules)… definitely the best nickname ever. Also, the color green.

4. I’m pretty short, but I’m not that short, so No.

This is not so much a response to EDSBS’ questions, but more of a response to these idiot responses…

1) How can so many of you claim that you don’t care about ND / ND doesn’t matter while simultaneously proclaiming your hatred of all things Irish with long tirades. You can’t hate us and not care about us at the same time, morons. People don’t write long, hate-filled essays about topics they don’t care about.

2) I’m seeing a lot of responses along the lines of “ND should get off it’s high horse and be treated equally with the rest of CFB).” Yeah, because your school would turn down the NBC deal and the opportunity to play on national TV every week.

3) Many have responded with “I like absolutely nothing about ND.” I’m sorry that you are offended by every last thing we do, like graduating our players for instance. Look, you can hate the football team all you want, but there are some things that ND undeniably does right, like graduate its black players at the same rate (98%) as its white players (I’m looking at you, Michigan).

4) This question is kind of irrelevant.

#72, while I have seen that video, I never had the privilege of witnessing that in person.

1. - That video is one of the funniest things I have ever seen on the internets.

1. ND was my favorite college football team from age 5 to age 12—growing up in the middle of nowhere with no college graduates in the family, I was forced to base my early football allegiances based on shiny helmets.

2. There cannot be too much grief for a fan base with that much of a sense of entitlement.

3. Rocket Ismail.

4. Considering the three images that come to mind are Flargin, Dingle, and the leprechaun from Leprechaun: Back 2 tha Hood…no.

There are 75 responses to a topic of ND – do you care?

Anyone that said no is obviously lying, why else would you read and respond to a topic if you didn’t care about it?

Congrats Orson – you have learned what everyone else in the media has learned: ND = ratings.

ND matters, and if you don’t believe me why are you reading this?

1. Prime example of why so many people dislike ND fans.

The EDSBS Live topics always get lots of response. ND is nowhere near as special as douchebags like aka Ron Mexico think.

Bashing ESPN is the way to get lots of responses.

oc phil – does calling someone a douchebag make YOU a douchebag? I think aka’s point is well taken. If nobody cared about ND no one would respond. No need to call people names, you’re just reinforcing the opinion many have around this country that the OC is filled with depraved egotistical douchebags…

“If nobody cared about ND no one would respond.”

I’d like to think we EDSBS readers would be more than capable of this kind of a response even if the title of this post was “EDSBS Live! The Leprechaun Sex Show.”

One of these days, I’ll be home from work in time to listen and chat live. I feel like the kid stuck inside practicing the cello while his friends are out burning things and hitting each other with sticks.

1. If you think you slick and do it by insinuation, then yes it does.

If you imitate Pickles the drummer when you say it, then no.

And the point may be well taken but several people had already made the exact same point with less smugness, hence my evaluation.

1. Yes
2. No. Reasons Michigan fans give for hating ND:
   - The have their own TV contract. As if your school would’t take that opportunity.
  -Their coach is fat. What is this, grade school?
  -They won’t join a conference. This is after Michigan banned ND from the Big Ten for years.
3. Gameday
4. No, I like them tall.

OC – my comments were tongue-in-cheek (as I was ripping you for calling someone names when in fact I was doing the exact same thing to you). In any event I’m not quite sure what your first sentence meant. Like any fanbase, ND’s is filled with the zealots that get on everyone’s nerves (e.g. SKLM), I don’t think ND is unique in that regard. Enjoy the beautiful weather. I go in peace.

1. I care – too much by any definition imaginable.

2. Do we deserve the grief – on the field yes (until a national championship, or saving that a bowl victory). off the field no (except for James Tunstead Burtchaell C.S.C.).

3. The only element of the ND story I really can’t stand is Rudy. A correlation exists between his emergence in the national media consciousness and bowl losses. Do the math.

4. There is as little attractive action in the Republic of Ireland, mythical or otherwise, as there is in South Bend Indiana, which is saying something.

St. Ginny:

 #@!# ?!!

I think OC Phil did such a good job capturing the essence of Domies, that you went off like a freakin’ pantywaist.

Do not mess with me, or I will kick your ass again, like in previous rounds.

wow, that was surreal

1. Yes, an unhealthy amount of caring.
2. As a rabid ND fan, my first reaction was “NO, ND fans get way too much flak and BS.” But as several other responder have mentioned, it’s probably two-fold. ND needs to freakin’ win something. Not a single stellar season in over a decade. But on the other hand, the only reason Mark May has a job is because of his hatred for ND. Did you see him during the NFL Draft???? He couldn’t stop smiling for 3 hours! What an assclown. And anyone who bashes ND for having a TV contract is a hypocritical moron who should be punched in the face. So it goes both ways.
3. Gameday. Absolutely georgeous campus. Not being tied down into playing the same teams every year. Laughing at people who complain about ND playing Army and Navy when their favorite teams’ schedule includes NW, Indiana, Illinois, Youngstown State (I-AA), and the ‘big OOC game’ Washington.
4. It would have to be a female one and I’d have to be sure that I could track their pot of gold. Or drunk. Pot of gold, or drunk.

did the damn pink people show up again tonight, sorry i missed it guys…work and such things.

1. Does ND exist? They only exist once a year to me – when SC plays them.

2. Do their fans deserve the grief? I don’t think they get enough grief as it is. ND fans whine so much about tradition that I sometimes can’t distinguish between Domers and Bama fans. Honestly though, 9 bowl game losses in a row – that’s what it means to make history. Let’s just say that all fans that continually live in the past deserve all the grief that’s coming to them.

3. What do I like about ND? I love that video of ND MBA students “dancing.” Does that count?

4. Would you sleep with a leprechaun? If you’re talking about a real leprechaun, the answer is no. If you’re talking about an ND coed, then the answer is HECK no.

#36

+1 for beautiful Creed (no, not Christian whiny rock band) refernce

1: I’d love to say no but hating them that much means yes.

2: They deserve all that grief and more. It’s bad enough they have special priviledges like their NBC and BCS deals. They get endless media attention the moment they get to the “don’t suck” level. They don’t have to belong to a conference like everyone else. The reason they truly deserve the grief is that ND fans actually believe they are entitled to all of the above.

3: I guess they have respectable academics.

4: My wife is Irish Catholic. Does that count?

So according to Brian, lower grad rates = higher academic integrity? Jesus! We’ve been doing it all wrong at ND!

1. Yes, to an unhealthy extent.

2. No, but we are not exempt from all flak. I am as ashamed of our self-righteous fans as you are contemptuous of them. But our true fans (who do not really need to be alumni) are as passionate and biased as in any other instiution. We have a larger concentration of idiot fans, yes, but don’t judge all of us based on them.

Oh, and about the service acadamies, it’s the same as playing Temple or Directional Michigan. Or Illinois.

3. Everything about football weekend. Everything. Even the cold. Football is autumn, autumn is cold.

4. As long as it’s not that one from the lame horror movies. Not so much because he kills people, but moreso because he’s ugly as sin.

Why is USC filled with homosexuality? Seriously it’s like every time you turn around someone there is sucking cock. And that is why they hate ND.

St Guinifort: No problem, if I’m going to dish it out then I can take it.

As I’ve said on here before I respect ND as an esteemed rival and there are lots and lots of great domer fans. But there are also a bunch tthat need smacking.

I think one reason that many folks attack the ND hype is the fear that perception becomes reality. If too many people believe the “Notre Dame is back (for real this time)” hype then it might just happen. I know the recruiting is up this year, but let’s see how much luster Weis has if he goes another year without beating a top 20 team.

I personally have liked the Weis era so far. ND is good enough to make the USC rivalry interesting but is not on the same level as the top teams.

Oh and for anybody reading later, it looks like some comments were approved later and slipped into the line so numbers are thrown off.

1. My life revolves around the team in the fall. Yes.

2. Roughly yes. But I probably have some sort of wierd subconscious complex, having gone to the two most hated schools in the universe (ND and Duke). So my ability to guage these things might be off.

Also, need to correct AS from a couple posts ago: we don’t have a higher concentration of idiot fans (in fact we have one of the lowest—just go to ND on gameday wearing rival colors and see how you’re treated), just vastly superior numbers of them. So everyone has met at least 10 obnoxious ND fans and—via the wonder that is the psychological wiring of our brains—uses that misrepresentative (but easily noticed and remembered) sample as their default view of ND fans. I hate obnoxious ND fans way more than obnoxious Michigan or USC fans (shout out to SKLM!) for this reason. They give us all a bad name.

3. So many great things stated here, so I’ll go personal—taking a reflective walk around St. Joseph’s and St. Mary’s lakes on a crisp fall or winter night, when no one else is dumb enough to be out in that cold, with the golden dome and basilica lit up behind you. Coming back to campus for some random game and bumping into people you haven’t seen since graduation, every damn time. My fellow students and alumni. I’ll stop now, y’all are getting bored.

4. Hell no. Not only are there no female leprechauns, if there were they would have beards. Gross.

Oh, and I forgot: for those who claim the long list of lengthy answers is normal for EDSBS Live! posts and not reflective of an obsession (or at least piqued interest) in hating ND, you are wrong. This post will be the 97th, thereby making this thread the longest of all EDSBS Live! answer threads.

This despite being the only one entirely focused on one school, unlike the previous record holders, which asked for the program that causes you the most anguish and the program you think deserves the awe (universally-applicable conversation starters both), and before that the program you could “wish football anthrax on” (awesome baiting question).

To simultaneously fulfill the stereotype of arrogant ND fan and (sort of) quote Toad from MarioKart 64: “We’re the best!”

10 at #95,

Maybe your parish priest can answer your question.

Orson,

I bitched a couple weeks ago about your baiting ND for ratings, but I applaud your fair questions here. Very entertaining and educational reading.

I would also like to give a hit tip to DC Trojan and SKLM, whom I dissed at that time. I too respect your school— bitter and hostile sure but respect nonetheless. I enjoy your funny, witty posts, and hope we beat you before the inevitable NCAA sanctions kick in.

OC – I think Weiss has done well with what he’s had to work with so far. I’m guessing you aren’t as familiar (and I wouldn’t expect you to be) with our depth problems since you’re not a fan. This year will be a tough one as I believe we have only a handful of seniors that will actually play. Next year we should get back to the 10 win level and in 2009 I fully expect to be in the MNC hunt. By all measures Weis has done a wonderful job; from recruiting to coaching. Are we “there” yet, no, but I haven’t had this much confidence that we’ll get there since I was a student in the early nineties and that, at least to me, is something to be happy about..

#99. He said that USC is a fairly liberal school that is tolerant of all sexual preferences, (more so than say, Mississippi State, or more appropiately, Notre Dame) that, combined with being located in a large west-coast city is reason for the ambiguous promiscuity.

He also said that Opus Dei put a curse on USC which will cause a losing streak longer than the Lou Holtz era.

I said “Really you can do that?”
He said “Damnit! You know too much!”

He then sent his albino priest after me and he bit off my arm.

So thanks a fucking lot SeaTrojan, may you burn in hell like your gay classmates.

1. Yes, and probably too much.

2. Yes, but only because we are the only big time program equipped with the brains to actually handle that much grief (at least the actual alums are). If you thought Ty’s firing was bad, I’d love to see some dumbass U (see LSU, UM, OSU, Bama) from the SEC or Big Ten program get scrutinized in the national media for the fact that they collectively graduate something like a dozen black football players a year (if you’re from Northwestern, Vanderbilt or Florida, my apologies, you actually give a shit about academics sometimes).

3. The stadium. With the ivy at Wrigley finally taking the plunge, we may be the only major historical sports arena still left unblemished by senseless advertising.

4. I had a make-shift leprechaun suit that I would wear when I attended games as an undergrad, and one time at an afterparty, some girl I was dancing with stole and wore my hat so as to lure me away to a bedroom. Is this sufficient?

Thanks for the correction irishdevil, it’s kind of what I was trying to say.

1. Yes. I don’t like them because they are consistently overpublicized. The problem is that I’m a Michigan fan, and UM usually plays ND early in the season. As a result, when ND beats a team that UM doesn’t play (typically anyone but MSU or Purdue) it makes UM look better, so I must admit that I usually don’t mind when ND wins. In years when UM does not play ND, I almost always root against ND.

2. Only the knuckleheads. Every fan base has its share of reasonable people and its share of knuckleheads, and I don’t know that ND fans are any worse than usual on average.

3. They usually run a pretty clean program.

4. No.

1. Yes. Notre Dame will always be relevant to the college football nut.

2. Probably not, but that’s what you get for thinking your farts smell like lilacs, or maybe Shea Butter.

3. Great fight song, cool traditions, un-Nikefied unis.

4. Who says I haven’t already?