NYT COMPARES BEAR BRYANT MUSEUM TO STALIN MUSEUM

So does that make Auburn Nazi Germany?

But more importantly, ham, eggs, grits, and biscuits? Breakfast of champions!

I’m pretty sure Auburn is Poland in this scenario.

WSJ is soooo signing this dude up for the Social Committee, whereby dude will have to meet twice a week for the next month with the overly cheery women of the HR department to plan the NYT 4th of July picnic, inlcuding but not limited to dude blowing up balloons and greeting his co-workers at the event by offering them a party hat and a sparkler.

Not to nitpick, but isn’t it tovarich? OK, yes to nitpick.

Sorry, but I played a Russian in a play in college. Don’t ask me why I retained that info.

Yes, I got my gay on. Chicks were hot, though.

Auburn is just Auburn in this comparison. It needs no equivalent.

And if you haven’t been to The Waysider, OMG you’re missing out!

Always a team player, I’ve asked my friend to get some pics of the Stalin museum, if he goes, since he is in the nation of Georgia for the summer doing medical research.

Another bone to pick, 12 bucks for breakfast at a diner in Alabama? Whuuuuu? Thats like $3.42 at WaHo.

Gotta pay for Saban, plus that new upper deck, Brian. Tradition doesn’t come cheap.

Damn Yankees Dept:

These damn Yankees always have to find somethang about the deep South to nit-pick and pick and pick.

But, riddle me this Batman, college footwall-wise –
What is there of consequence, oh, within the last 50 years or so, in Yankee country that is worth a damn?

Stacy Keibler Luvs Me, how about an over-inflated feeling of entitlement, superiority, and self-importance? Try finding that in the South! Just try it!

Oh, snap. I missed the “college football-wise” part. They don’t even have that up there.

SKLM -

Aside from the Big 10 in its entirety? Or the College Football Hall of Fame? I don’t understand the question.

The irony of southerners belittling northeast football with such condescending remarks is entertaining.

Do you guys buy all those big trucks in an effort to compensate for your small …uh …brains …as well?

Syracuse won a National Championship in 1959 — slipping in under the 50 year wire with the ever so slimmest of margins.

Other than that, you got University of Maine beating MS State a couple years back, and a few consecutive bowl appearances by BC.

…In summary: Nothing.

Rutgers babeee!!!!

Orson,

Thanks for giving a Rutgers shout out so I don’t have to. And yes, I know we haven’t done anything yet. Am I the only friggin Northeastern football fan who reads this site?

I believe Happy Valley is north of the Mason-Dixon line.

Dave K.,
 
It is funny how we Southerners belittle northeast football. Of course we are stupid. Now tell every one of your yankee friends how dumb we are and to stop moving to the South. Please. I already know how great New York, Boston, etc. are. Hear it all the time. It is ironic though how NO ONE moves back there.

Thank you, SKLM, for reminding us that Baja California del Norte rooted for the Confederacy.

Either the Times is still nursing that grudge over New York Times v. Sullivan, or it holds the entire state responsible for the clusterfuck that was the Howell Raines era at the paper.

Regardless, it is increasingly a paper that is unafraid to take a bold editorial stance — on any page.

The only difference between central Pennsylvania and central Mississippi is one says y’all and the other says y’ens. That’s it.

Well, JoePa, Croom. But I understand Croom is singing now? Good for him.

Boundaries Boundaries…

Big 10 or 11 is Mid-West football, which is very good. Penn State is more middle of the USA in character than Yankee, no?

As someone who lived for years in the Northeast (NY and Boston) I am fairly certain that college football there is Double A, at best, compared to the Major League South, Mid-West and Western USA college football regions.

(PJ: There is actually a quaint community in Northern California called “Georgia” made up of ex-soldiers that left the Peach state after the Civil War.)

1. OPS – I’m sure you’re very good at southern college football criticism and sports analysis, respectively. But it appears you left off the /sarcasm tag in your post.

STALIN THINKS YOU ALL DESERVE DEATH FOR NOT PRAISING HIS IMAGE AND HIS DELICIOUS POTATO CHIPS OF CHOICE, GOLDEN FLAKE.

22— I misunderstood the question. I thought he meant “all non-slave states,” not “the Northeast.” As far as college football goes in that corner of the US, it’s fucking miserable. It’s Brian Leonard, Donovan McNabb, Jim Brown, and that’s about it.

Trotsky = Frito Lay?

AMERICANS HAVE MOVED PAST THE GOLDEN FLAKE AND ON TO THE WHOLESOME, CAPITALIST GOODNESS THAT IS THE CHEESE DOODLE.

revisionist running dogs…

That puts a whole new perspective on the Ironman contests they hold on ESPN every now and then. Jesus, and I thought a guy who could carry a car 100ft from deadlift was badass. “IRONMAN STALIN KILLS 600,000” makes these guys look like pussies.

Personally, Pasha, I like the Golden Flake because they are 5 cents cheaper in the snack machine than Lays.

#18,

Yes, everyone moves away from here and doesn’t come back. And yet …there must be some reason that New Jersey is still the most densely populated state in the nation despite outrageuos property values that effectively eliminate most people from moving here even if they wish to…

SKLM, where would it be? I can’t find it in DeLorme, or Google. And wouldn’t those guys be pretty old by now?

In Stalinist Russia, potatoes slice and boil YOU.

The reason New Jersey is the most densely populated state is because it is TINY.

Comparing Bear Bryant to Stalin? Using Orson’s math, the only way I can see the comparison is if Matt Gross read “The Junction Boys” lately. And that was on a much smaller scale. We’re just going to have to call him Lil’ Stalin.

Stalin would have gone for the Golden Flake HOT chips, since everything they come in contact with turns red.

“Dave K.,

It is funny how we Southerners belittle northeast football. Of course we are stupid. Now tell every one of your yankee friends how dumb we are and to stop moving to the South. Please. I already know how great New York, Boston, etc. are. Hear it all the time. It is ironic though how NO ONE moves back there.

Comment by Dave in Pensacola FL — June 4, 2007 @ 2:15 pm"

An uncharitable person would call this an example of natural selection at work. The best and brightest who can afford the obscene real estate prices stay north, and you see the rest. (I can’t point this out, however, without violating my New Year’s resolutions.)

I remember a political campaign analysis of voting in Pennsylvania as “Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, with Alabama in between.” So I don’t know what that says about the Happy Valley response to SKLM.

Oh, and:

Arise, ye workers from your slumber,
Arise, ye prisoners of want.
For reason in revolt now thunders,
and at last ends the age of cant!
Away with all your superstitions,
Servile masses, arise, arise!
We’ll change henceforth the old tradition,
And spurn the dust to win the prize!
  So comrades, come rally,
  And the last fight let us face.
  The Internationale,
  Unites the human race.
  So comrades, come rally,
  And the last fight let us face.
  The Internationale,
  Unites the human race.

Or, more succinctly, eat Golden Flake or be sent to a camp, Kulaks!

Devilgrad,
Well that does make sense. You guys have figured out how to send the most vocal, miserable, rude, and pretentious part of your population out to other areas of the country. Congrats on the good work. However, I must say I just got back from New Jersey and you guys need to step it up. There must be a backlog.

“The reason New Jersey is the most densely populated state is because it is TINY.”

You know, after reading this I am retracting every statement I ever made about southerners being stupid…

Re New Jersey. Dante from Clerks reminded me just this past weekend why I hold NJ in such high regard. His parting shot to his girlfriend:

“try not to suck any dicks on your way across the parking lot”

I swear, after I first heard that my relocation request was sumitted instantly. Sadly enough, many years later, I am waiting on that golden opportunity to come true!

Who said I was from Jersey? I’m an Ohio guy, transplanted to Washington, after school-related stints in the Carolinas and Boston.

As a truce, I’ll promise not to sound like I’m defending New Jersey and to avoid the temptation after each trip down South to put a bumper sticker on my car reading “Y’ALL LOST.” You can back off the Yankee stereotypes to the extent that you see fit. (I’ve always found that stuffing my mouth full of barbecue is a good way not to open it up and say something stupid.)

Truce Devilgrad. I just got back from helping a neighbor who had surgery and his constant belittling comments about Southerners got to me a little.

devilgrad i’ve lived in chicago and nyc, (as well as Tokyo)- so I know something about high real estate prices, and I genuinely prefer the midsize (between 500k- 1mil) southern city that I currently live in to any of them, don’t let your own insecurities color your view of an entire region of the country…of course if you are a duke alum you’re probably a latte-drinking citizen-of-the-world type (a little generalization much like your own)

I posted the following upon the announcement of Phil Steele’s preview release in the Blogtoberfest post from earlier today. I knew it was only a matter of time before this info would be relevant, I just didn’t think it would be in the same sitting. For all of you regionalist warmongers, here ya go:

I too acquired my copy of Phil Steele this weekend. Hooray!

For all of you SEC honks who have to constantly defend your conference against hardheaded Big 10 types who still claim superiority after January 2007, check out Steele’s comments on the first page of the SEC preview under "Conference Notes." He says something to the effect of (paraphrasing) "I grew up in Big 10 country and always thought it was king- until I started the magazine. The SEC is king."

After all, if Phil Steele says it it’s gotta be true.

Crimson Tide vs Red October

Tough Call.

The real question is, how did Warren St. John let this happen?

Hmmm, hey, let’s fight the Civil War again!

Maybe the south won’t lose to badly this time around.

Man, it’s gotta hurt to be the only american army to surrender on home soil since the French and Indian War.

Meanwhile, maybe Alabama would likea nother national championship? They can manufacture them, just like Comrade Shtalin tried to manufacture history.

0-9 wooderson, do you know what that means?

In this context, UNC qualifies as a neutral Sweden. Which means they would have no relevance whatsoever. Skit Ocska!

(That’s Swedish for “Dammit!”)

RE: #22

SKLM, I think you might have it backwards. From what I remember, there’s a town in Northern Georgia called California – right near New Hope and Hiram, as I recall.

And just to be totally intellectually honest, California supported the Union during the Civil War. However, the Los Angeles area initially was a bastion of hearty Confederate sympathizers, until the Confederacy decided to invade Arizona and New Mexico.

At that point Captain (later General) Winfield Scott Hancock began working with the Union because of influence from a business partner, Philaeus Banning, who essentially founded the port cities of San Pedro and Wilmington.

Banning recognized the need for a strong military presence to protect his business assets, and thus California began to strongly support the Union.

Re #49, is that the number of times SEC schools have lost a desegregation case in court?

#38, James Carville compared central PA to Alabama.

As for this hack who compared the bryant museum to stalin’s museum, who the fuck cares? at least he went out to the cliffs at lake nichol. many a bama student can vouch for the allure of the scenery and the ability to smoke a junta, shitcan a 12 pack and jump off a 25 foot cliff.

1. and # 51: The tiny community founded by Georgia civil war veterans is located in El Dorado County, in Northern Calif.

Los Angeles, by the way, is also looked down upon by ’em Yankees. But, more of them move here than those from here move there – so there!. I loved NY, by the way, but prefer LA!

How in the world did this thread get to be about New Jersey? Is Rutgers joining the SEC?

How in the world did this thread get to be about New Jersey? Is Rutgers joining the SEC? And would they have to pick a new team color?

Dave K…. It doesn’t take a northerner to have a rudimentary understanding of statistics and know that density alone proves little with regard to population migrations.

How’s this: New Jersey’s population growth has been about 40% lower than the overall US population growth over the last 40,30,20 and 10 years. Comparatively, Georgia’s population growth rate is about double the overall US population growth rate over the last 40, 30, 20 and 10 years.

New Jersey isn’t growing at the same rate as the rest of the country. Georgia is growing significantly faster as the rest of the country. That’s far better evidence that shows how people are migrating south than “but we’re still really dense!”.

EZ-

Agreed.

LD,

It’s quite simple really. We in the north have too much money, and y’all have too much land. So we’er buying your land at obscenely cheap prices, and populating it with our gel-haird, balck-wife-beater wearing jersey trash. Who then proceed to come down and ruin your southern culture. Sorry. It’s called carpet bagging, and we’ve been doing it since 1865. We’re just really good at it at this point that we use names such as “economic revitalization” as opposed to “profiteering”.

Dave K.
Does the dot dot dot after “You know, after reading this I am retracting every statement I ever made about southerners being stupid…” mean you are being sarcastic? It would be hard for me to tell, after all. But I am pretty sure that population density is a function of area, i.e. Population density= population/area. New Jersey is still tiny.

Auburn sucks.

New Jersey isn’t even the smallest state up here. RI, CT, are much smaller. delaware is smaller too, I believe.

Plus, NJ is Mid-Atlantic, with MD, DE, and PA. Do’nt you EVER lump them in with us New Englanders.

Oh and thanks for Taking BC off our hands. We all hate them in New england.

#26-

Of course. He and the frito bandito were bff until that whole ice pick thing…

I live far north of the Mason-Dixon and even I can’t stand it when people drag out the old, “the South lost the war, blah blah blah” arguments. Stupid and disrepectful in any setting but expecially misplaced on a college football blog.

New Freakin’ Joisy?

When I lived in Manhattan, everytime “new joisy” was mentioned, everyone laughed. Jokes about landfills, Hoboken, wanna-be-gangsters, swamps, ghettos worse than the Bronx, blah, blah, blah. And now all of this smack from people from Joisy? Makes me laugh.

As an Aubie, I assure you that Auburn has a red hot hate for both the New York Times and the University of Alabama….but maybe the Stalin reference was a bit over the top.

(I’m defending Bama?? Nurse! Nurse!, where are my meds?)

BTW: Warren St. John (aka the world’s biggest bammer) is the only decent reporter at that rag, he should go to the Washington Post.

Anyway….War Damn Eagle, Comrades!

“I’ve always found that stuffing my mouth full of barbecue is a good way not to open it up and say something stupid”

More intelligent words were never said.

Barbeque. College football. Girls who wear sundresses to college football games in weather than allows it. Take it or leave it, but my ass ain’t going NOWHERE.

1. Summed it up pretty nice – I don’t plan on moving back to New England any time, ever. Not a whole lot of overly friendly people there, and the weather is downright horrid.

Yea, you all def. have to get your geography straight, as the mid Atlantic is not new england. Also, Maryland, while south of The Line, isn’t southern for a shit…as I can attest, now living there. Jersey is dense because its sits in the middle of the two largest cities on the eastern seaboard.

Having lived in TX, NC, GA, MD, MA, and to an extent, Maine…my favorite is probably GA, because I met the most people that I liked there. Maine is cool, because its more humble than Connecticut or Mass, and has some nice places.

1. SKLM – Sounds like you’re betting on Phil outlasting Tony.

How did a ’Bama thread wind up being about Yankees? The ’Bama and Auburn fans most be too tired from threadjacking every other post to comment on this one.

Or maybe they just united in their disdain/hatred/pity of the north.

#65. No Way! Tony is and always will be, “Da Man”.

I think the New Jerseyians (or is it New Jersrealites?) are just upset at being replaced by Mexico City as the world’s largest garbage dump.

I heard Dan Shaughnessy on Jim Rome’s radio show mention that schools in his area have replaced Tug-o-War with Tug-o-Peace….I’m pretty sure that dude lives in New England…

1. Bam!

As much as I hate Auburn, at least they are in the South.

Bama = Communists? let’s see…..

The color red (crimson)

Chairman Mal (Moore) orchestrating bama’s return to world domination.

Nikita Saban pounding his size 7 shoes on the podium – screaming that he doesn’t have time for this shit.

It all makes sense now.

Re: HawkHusker

Southerners,
How about you stop waving that stupid goddamn Confederate flag and insisting that it’s about ‘history’, and then Northerners will stop reminding you that in fact you lost the war. Truce?

And I still reserve the right to make inbreeding jokes about Alabama.

1. try Sharpsburg MD, they’re still flying the stars and bars there. And the cowtown rodeo / Army of Christ thrift store near Woodstown NJ suggests that being southern isn’t just a matter of being below the Mason – Dixon line. I certainly don’t see camo-clad members of local churches with Dominion-ist flags in local parades, anyway.

As for living further south, I knew a few people from Texas, Alabama, and Louisiana before I moved to the US and got along with them just fine, and I like barbeque and a little common courtesy, but the comparative lack of Thai food is a deal-killer.

Stalinist Russia: Party Premier attends grand opening of glorious new People’s Minsk tractor factory and denounces excesses of the capitalist swine bourgeoisie through magnificent citation of Das Kapital to local chapter of Young Communist League.

Southern college football: Urban Meyer equates orange juice with “the will to win!” and Ed Orgeron implores consumers that, “you need a hummaw”.

DC Trojan….Next trip to Atlanta, One word for you my Thai loving friend:

NAN – http://nanfinedining.com/

I’ll say “you’re welcome” in advance.

If Mike Leach has a Pirate School, should Saban have an NKVD?

Wow, more anti-south/anti-north since the civil war… just see where you’d rather live. I’ll take Florida and its surrounding states before the northeast any day of the frickin’ year… y’all take whatever you want.

@ 80

Yes, we do have an NKVD. And don’t you fucking say anything about it, because there very well may be a place in the basement of Reese Phifer waiting for you.

You’ve all been placed on notice, comrades.

As someone who got a degree focusing on that portion of the world. Eastern Europe/Russia I find it a little hard to fathom that he could compare a college football museum to Stalin’s. Having never been to the place in bama, all I can say is that if it is indeed anything like the one in Georgia, there is some serious problems down there that I am unaware of, and as to the people trying to refight the civil war here, get a fucking life. There are more then enough people in this world who hate you, without you making up fake enemies. And if you have this much hatred for any part of the US, contemplate your own patriotism, this country isn’t just your part of the world, it’s 50 states, each different, each unique, but all the same in that they are American, if that means nothing to you, sorry.

p.s. born in st louis, living in VA, went to school in Kathmandu, so I recuse myself from further discussions as it just isn’t a part of my life or tradition.

SKLM, I have to take your word for it: I’ve spent a fair amount of time in the El Dorado backwoods, and I’ve never heard of a “Georgia” up there.

I can’t find it on a 1:150,000 map, and it has every other hole-in-the-wall I’ve ever looked for. There is a “Georgia Slide” mining district, just north of Georgetown, but the name dates back to the Gold Rush, thanks to miners from Dahlonega. I’m sure the Peach State emigrants weren’t the folks who named Uncle Tom’s Cabin, either…

Oh and Jason (#51)… California’s allegiance to the Union was a very close-run thing. Had the war ended in ’62 or ’63 with a Confederate victory, it is very possible that the Pacific states would have gone their own way, given the absence of Federal troops in the region.

If the Northeast is so lacking, why does the south need to go north for quarterbacks.

In the interest of healing the North/South feud, here’s an American attack on Scotland (apologies to DCTrojan … and Andy Murray for at least the tennis part):

[reallyobscuremontypythonreference]
Hey! Scotland sucks at tennis. All Scotsmen do is wear kilts, play the bagpipes, get drunk at night and bring home black puddings. They also have inadequate brain capacity.

That’s the reason Blancmanges from the Andromeda galaxy are always trying to turn people into Scotsmen.
[/reallyobscuremontypythonreference]

Having spent some time in State College, PA I can tell you when you get out to Bellefonte, Centre Hall, Snowshoe, Clarence, and Peru (shout out to the post office), you see the confederate flag all over the place. I asked a girl I worked with and she (being well informed) responded, “What, is that like, a Southern thing?”

I root against Bama every chance I get being a thumb waving Aubie. Sometimes teams just won’t let you root against them in bowl games. Some defensive back from Minnesota will make the Music City bowl an SEC/Big 10 thing and dammit if you don’t have to root for them.

Sidenote, will Nick Saban every have a museum or does he not have time for that shit?

Nice reference to the blancmange. Thank god they are so tasty or Wimbleton would have been lost!

82 woiuldnt the basement of Paty be more appropriate.

Apparently the Howell Raines stint as editor left some marks… I guess the Bear Bryant motivational posters he put up at the NYT may have hurt someones little bitty feelings. Or maybe it was his constant quoting of Bryant…
Either way I think Major Applewhite and Howell Raines would have the dorkiest fishing outing ever… each one delivering an endless array of Alabama trivia… shudder

RE: 22 and 84: SKLM, can you be more specific concerning the whereabouts of the El Dorado County community of Georgia? Wikipedia doesn’t list it, I can’t find it in either my own memory banks (no great surprise), nor on Delorme. As 84 mentions, there’s Georgetown and Georgia Slide, as well as a whole lot of what must be place names from the mining days, but I can’t see a Georgia anywhere, nor do I remember from California history classes ever hearing this story. Not saying you’re wrong, but sure would like more info. If accurate, it would be a hell of a story.

Kakistocrat @ 85, the apology would be accepted if anything that you said was inaccurate. My main adaptation to local conditionsof the grand traditions that you mention is a seersucker kilt, because wool chafes like a motherfucker in high humidity. Turns out you have to use curtain weights in seersucker kilts to avoid shock and horror on windy days.

Scotland might have much to cheer about any longer, but at least they aren’t beset by Morris Dancers.

John and Joseph LeConte, both former members of the Confederate Army, quit teaching at South Carolina College sometime around 1869 or 70 and later moved to some place called Berkeley in California to form some sort of school. The reason they quit? South Carolina College began admitting black students and the state had placed black men in administrative positions after the Civil War.

…and in a final slap to the face, Berkeley would become the most liberal place in America 100 years later.

Overall the NYT article was very positive.

The reporter obviously didn’t grow up with the most rudimentary understanding of the importance of southern football.

If I went to NYC and took a tour of a museum devoted to the Tony Awards I’d probably have a similar reaction.

If Alabama is equal to the USSR, then yes, Auburn is equal to Nazi Germany.
That would also make Ned of FIU v. Miami fame (“Ned’s in the Game!”) our first line of defense/offense?. The thought of a black player taking on the host of the evil empire swells my heart with joy.

Also, although I am a fan of the Waysider, City Cafe is cheaper and opens at 4 AM every weekday.
And #20, the NYT won the Sullivan case.

okhrana wrote:

“As someone who got a degree focusing on that portion of the world. Eastern Europe/Russia I find it a little hard to fathom that he could compare a college football museum to Stalin’s. Having never been to the place in bama, all I can say is that if it is indeed anything like the one in Georgia, there is some serious problems down there that I am unaware of”…

Well then you just need to come on down, because you apparently have lots to learn about the bammers.

(Jackin’ this thread back from people in the Northeast stressing that they aren’t from New England, as if that matters.)

BMay,
  Hmm not sure where you are getting that stat from, but I am pretty sure that the south gets QBs from all over (the south included; Tim Tebow, Matthew Stafford….). Either way, a better question would be why do the NE QBs go to southern schools… because the NE sucks for college football… which then supports the earlier statement

Heh if southern football wasn’t good, paying HS coaches 80 grand a year would look pretty silly wouldn’t it?? ::cough:: Hoover Alabama ::cough::

I say huzzah for this. That 80 grand generates prolly half a million in scholarship money for the players on that team every year, and is probably covered by ticket sales.

Silicon Valley – Computers
Wall Street – Finance
Detroit – Cars
LA – Movies
Florida – Real Estate
Chicago – mmm…Meat packing
Southeast – Football & Hotties

Which sector would you like to kick ass at the most?

Brian, I’ll take NYC – all of the above.

Auburn is Poland in any scenario. Stalin really has nothing to do with it.

Auburn is Poland, huh?

http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070602/NEWS/706020329&SearchID=73283238319669

Post # 61 neatly sums it all up.

BLSD #91 – I don’t know about “hell of a story”, but it ought to merit a plaque and a road sign. (California Historical Landmark No. 2,948,475, represent!)

As a Southerner (James Carville) so aptly described PA, as “Philly and Pittsburgh with Alabama in the middle”. Actually, in a lot of parts it’s more like West Viriginia, but why split hairs.

Like hell, Mississippi State is Poland.

1. Georgia Civil War Verans – BLSD: A while back I was going through Calif gold rush country and and stopped by one of the little communities off the side of the freeway for coffee. I bought coffee at an old general store type place. Next to it, was a historical marker about Georgia civil war veterans moving over to the county in the late 1800’s. I am not sure of the exact place, though. But, I was quite amazed that a little bit of the South had settled in No Cal.

107: Interesting. I’ll look some more. Do you remember, were you on or near I-80 or U.S. 50? 80 runs through Placer Co, and 50 runs through El Dorado Co. The counties are sort of parallel to each other running from the Valley near Sac and going up through the foothills into the mountains, each having a piece of Tahoe. And not to start another North/South feud, but here in Humboldt County, we don’t figure anything south of here is rightfully ‘Northern Cal’. Anything much south of our county line might as well be Los Angeles.