THINGS WE KNOW FOR SURE ABOUT OTHER FANS.
Always nice to begin a piece with a bit of self-endorsement, which is precisely what we’ll do: if you haven’t listened to the Tony Barnhart interview from EDSBS Live this past Tuesday, you should, and not just to hear us on the tail end of an epic caffeine bender.
The best line in the whole thing doesn’t come from any of the participants, but rather from the dead and great Lewis Grizzard. Barnhart mentioned the line Grizzard had on the Clemson-Georgia game:”It’s more than a football game. It’s their way of life against ours.” No one’s ever issued a statement more perfectly encapsulating why, mid-game, you may actually look at the otherwise pleasant and similar people wearing different colors than yours and suddenly feel like you gazed upon the primitive celebrations of a lesser, hairy-knuckled tribe unworthy of having clean water and healthy children–and certainly unworthy of being on the same field as your obviously superior, fully-evolved football team of gridiron samurai.
The irony in all of this is that most people accuse the opposition of being guilty of something they are, by demographic, equally or more guilty of the offense themselves. Nothing’s funnier to the outsider than watching SEC fans accuse other SEC fans of being “redneck” or trash, especially when the rest of the country walks around with this mental cheatsheet of regional prejudice in their head:

However, since we’re soooooo scientific, which individual myths about fanbases are true? We propose a few below based solely on our own observations over the years, shying away from the obvious ones (jean shorts on Florida fans, for example) and attempting to say things we know are absolutely, unequivocally true.
Auburn fans use Weber Grills. Not an insult, but something definitive and true we know we can say as a rule about Auburn fans is that they cook with the classic, steel-egg Weber grill. And they grill like there’s no tomorrow. Alabama fans may, of course, suggest that they do this out of a lack of understanding of the basics of propane and propane-related technologies–they will, of course, in addition to suggesting that Alabama fans taught Auburn fans the secret of fire only to watch them burn their own houses down.
Georgia fans wear red slacks. If you’re going to geek out, go head first, or in the case of Georgia fans, dick-first into your geekery. Often pleated, sometimes stained, and rarely unnoticeable, screaming red pants on Georgia fans is a near universal certainty at Dawg games. We have only one thing to say about this, which is that we know two kinds of people who wear red pants by choice: Zouaves, and fabulous Canadian figure skater Brian Orser.

Red pants= sexcellent!
3. Michigan fans are very smart, and very grumbly. Undoubtedly among the most intellectual and most tortured of fans, Wolverines can sound like football Kierkegaards even in the best of times, salting even their greatest successes with grumbles about Lloyd Carr’s conservatism, Mike Debord’s baffling “non-scoring” offense, and most notably other Michigan fans, who are too quiet at games, too complacent/not complacent enough re: Carr and Bo’s boys, or not angry enough about Ohio State’s recent run of ownership in college football’s most corrosive rivalry.
The vinegary Brian of the MGoBlog isn’t the exception, from our experience: he’s the rule.
Ohio State fans don’t need no instructions how to rock. Because they know what rocks: Ohio State. What doesn’t rock? Michigan, and you, if you happen to not be Ohio State. The mirror image of Michigan’s tortured Scandinavian outlook, Ohio State fans are sunshine-pumpers of the Nth degree, loyal, screaming fandogs who’ll turn the tamest social event into an opportunity to scream at you for thirty minutes about how wrong, wrong, wrong you are about Cheatypants Sweatervest and his program.
We know this from experience, as we’ve had at least two incidents involving OSU fans that went like this.
OS: You know OSU won that game on a blown pass interference call.
OSU fan: nnnnOOOAOAAAAHIIIIIGGGHHH!!!!! (Rips off shirt, grows to three times normal size, stomps around for thirty minutes.)
(Fast forward to end of conversation.)
OS: You need to calm down.
OSU fan: (shrinks to normal size, redons tatters of shirt.)EEIIIAAAHHHHhhhh….no, you’re wrong. But we should totally do that again sometime.
OS: Sure.

Ohio State fans: seriously into it.
Notre Dame fans, aside from their chaotic student section, are very, very serious. We thought it was just the age thing, what with all the geriatric monied alumni throwing heaps of money to keep their spot on the wooden benches safe. But no, after some field research we have determined that Notre Dame fans watch the game with the intensity of Enrico Fermi ripping scraps of paper up and tossing them into the wind to determine the force of the first atom bomb blast.
This means a lot of very intense sitting, something we could barely handle in any situation, much less the frenzy of a football game. The ADD kicked in around the second quarter, where we began yelling “rrrRRRROOOOOLLLLLL TAAAAAHHHHHDDE” in our thickest drawl during lulls in the game. (Being the UCLA/ND game, it was pretty much one long lull until the lid-flipping end.) It proved to be a great smartass test, as anyone who appreciated the obvious humor of a bad running gag turned laughing to see who the idiot was. These people, we thought, are our troops. The rest of the endzone section just kept craning their necks, looking for whomever was letting off the semantic flatulence in their stadium.
Point being: they’re serious folks. We half expected white boards to break out in the stands during timeouts.
Florida State fans all like Toby Keith. We’ve had this theory for a while, since in truth it’s very difficult to discern Florida fans from Florida State fans if you don’t have a copy of their SATs lying around. (We kid, we kid! Actually, we don’t. But we also had to move to Taiwan to get a job with an English degree with our Florida degree, so again, liberally salt all jabs and content.)
Like the Hutu and Tutsi, we’re actually all intermarried, intermingled, and very, very similar in many respects. Only one factor sticks out as a salient dividing line between the two camps: Toby Keith.
We’ve created a handy chart to help you with this division:

While a Florida fan may like Toby Keith (perfectly legal operation here,) a Florida State fan MUST by rule like Toby Keith. They must be a Ford truck man, that’s all he drii–haiiives, he don’t have no boundaries, he don’t compromise. The Florida State fan believes in a little less talk and a lot more action, and in his sadder moments believes he should have been a cowboy. When he scores, he may ask how do you like him at that moment, or who your daddy truly is; when you beat him senseless, he will sing about how he’s not as good as he once was, and perhaps get drunk and be somebody just to feel better.
But the rule remains: he/she MUST like Toby Keith. It’s a natural law.
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Georgia fans are WEIRDLY superstitious. Athens is a funky place and so is being between the hedges. But I knew this GA fan that would wear an actual GA helmet during the entire game on tv. He lost paper rock scissors to go pick up some food at half time, and wore the helmet as he drove his car through the drive through at Chick FIl A. This was in Texas mind you. He looked like a fucking idiot.
Comment by Hook'em Tide — May 9, 2007 @ 10:10 am
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West F’n Virginia fans love starter jackets and Al Gore.
I voted for Gore, but WV went red that election year, so I don’t really get that one. Are accusations of being a democrat insults in Alabama, Erik???
I do not, nor have I ever had, a starter jacket.
And as an addendum to my above post, I’ve never tasted moonshine. But I do enjoy other varieties of alcohol first ting in the morning. Especially on game day.
Comment by CouchBurnin'Girl — May 9, 2007 @ 9:55 am
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West F’n Virginia fans love starter jackets and Al Gore.
Comment by Erik — May 9, 2007 @ 9:35 am
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“As if any college team in America would have tolerated another year of Shula’s impotent offense”
As if any college team in America, with the supposed tradition of bama, would ever have hired shula in the first place.
Comment by crabs — May 9, 2007 @ 9:34 am
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Bama-Buck
You don’t know any bama fans who bring up the 70’s?
Do you know any who just paint about them?
http://www.thedowntowngallery.com/moore.html
Comment by crabs — May 9, 2007 @ 9:22 am
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This shit is getting good. We’re actually getting some anger, hurt feelings, and vengeance in the mix. The post rate is slowing down, though.
Comment by Out of Conference — May 9, 2007 @ 9:16 am
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Bama_Buck,
You guys are always mentioning the seventies, whether you use the word ’seventies’ or not. “Got 12″ is an implicit reference to the Tahd’s glory days, which centered around the seventies. (Implicit means it is required to be true by the statement and need not be explicitly stated.)
Now the question is, do you really have 12? Like the years where you lost your bowl game or lost the SEC or lost three games, how can you actually look yourself in the mirror and be proud of believing that?
That’s the joke. That’s why we Aubs are always mocking you. You actually believe that stuff. You really don’t hear other people mocking you. “Michigan is the Alabama of the north” - I never heard that before but I know it wasn’t a compliment.
Comment by War Eagle — May 9, 2007 @ 8:49 am
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WVU fans are not permitted to have more than 14 teeth total and must love the taste of moonshine in the morning. Research hasn’t confirmed if the two are related.
I have all my teeth. I swear.
Comment by CouchBurnin'Girl — May 9, 2007 @ 8:47 am
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Even as an ND alum, I gotta say that Johnny Drama pretty much nailed it. Goes to show that even a Michigan fan can be right once in a while (although apparently never after uttering the sentence, “This is the year Carr beats Tressel.”)
Comment by irishdevil — May 9, 2007 @ 8:43 am
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Re: #159 about Indiana football games, you forgot one-
When OSU is in town, it becomes a home game for OSU.
And Penn State fans seem to have a little brother/ anti-PSU conspiracy thing, at least lately. Can’t really say I blame them, just combine the 1994 shaft of an NC, the B11 joining and forced pitiful “rivalry” against MSU, and the fact that they have been “meh” at best since joining (and “meh” would actually be an improvement vs. UM), and you can see why…
Oh, and #32, you are definitely FOS…not to get overly political, but if you are actually still whining that douchepump Kerry wasn’t elected you need to eliminate the word “brilliant” from your thesis, or at least add a negative modifier…
Comment by Pants McPants — May 9, 2007 @ 8:42 am
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Wow, I can’t believe I read the whole thing.
I dont’ know any Bama fans who bring up the 70’s. It’s always opposing fans who say we’re living in the past.
As if any college team in America would have tolerated another year of Shula’s impotent offense.
And thanks to Miss State for firing Shula last year.
Comment by bama_buck — May 9, 2007 @ 8:26 am
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A couple observations:
1.The generalization of tOSU fans being rabid is completely founded. I live in Florida, but am a Michigan fan. I came home from work one day, and noticed we had new neighbors with a Jeep and an OSU sticker on the back. I parked my truck(I said I lived in Fl) in the driveway next to his. I guess he noticed the block “M” sticker on my truck, because 15 minutes later, he was banging on my door, WEARING AN OSU FLAG AS A CAPE, screaming O-H-I -O !!
2. The BEST tailgate is prior to a U of Hawaii game, hands down. Starts about 4 hours before the game, and you get the best of both worlds: BBQ AND seafood. Nicest fans ever there. I love Ahi poke.
3. ALL SEC schools have ridiculously hot girls there, the only caveat being Vandy.
4. U of F’s colors are not Orange and Blue. The colors are Realtree camo. Orange and Blue are the secondary unis.
5. To the poster that complained about the sun damaged boobs…the best thing about that is there’s new sets arriving each year. You can discard the old ones.
Comment by Scalz1 — May 9, 2007 @ 8:26 am
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Since Now__hoo started it, I’ll pile on VPI a little.
1) If you’re not going to the game, take the flags and oversized decals off of your truck. Now.
2) Florida State is not your rival. They are king of the ACC mountain, sure, but they pay you no mind. Stick with UVa and WVU.
3) Did you make a special trip to the Bass Pro Shop to get those turkey calls? Please take them out of the bar.
4) You’re still living off the legacy of one good year based on one amazing player eight years ago but yeah, whatever, Beamer is the greatest coach alive.
Comment by Jon hates Russian spammers and UofA — May 9, 2007 @ 7:54 am
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Re: #10.
Coop, you are a typical Clemson fanboy who believes the hype. I feel soiled to have even read your drivel, but nevertheless I feel compelled to dispel the garbage you posted here.
Clemson is not a better academic institution than South Carolina, and your assertion that Clemson’s business major is stronger is laughable. The rankings you cite are also laughable. Do you actually believe anyone with any sense pays attention to those? I wouldn’t want to work for anyone who did. Average starting salary figures are pretty much all that matter.
Are you seriously trying to make a fashion critique directed toward another fanbase…as a Clemson fan? Have you ever been to a Clemson game? If so, are you blind? I have seen things there that crack me up at random times to this day. Don’t think for one second that Clemson has escaped the well-founded stereotypes just because the school has marketed itself into dubious recognition as a legitimate research university.
For the record, the South Caorlina alma mater is set to the tune of “Flow Gently, Sweet Afton,” which sounds nothing like “Away In a Manger,” unless of course one is a drunken, tone-deaf, moronic Clemson fan like yourself.
As to the historical football dominance, aided mightily by multiple egregious infractions cases, let’s see how that works out in the next 10 years or so. I don’t think history is going to do you much good against SOS.
Comment by Ben Tillman = klan member — May 9, 2007 @ 5:39 am
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Auburn fans are obsessed with Alabama. The earlier comments about Dreamland buying its pork from the Auburn pig research building/sorority house should be proof enough. Plus the fact that all of the “myths” about Auburn involve Alabama.
Comment by Paul Finebaum — May 8, 2007 @ 10:17 pm
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#132,
I disagree on point #2 on the closet homosexuals: if you think the men only kiss women in the dark, you’ve never watched a September football game at Kyle Field, where the members of the Aggie Band enjoy getting shown on television, playing tonsil hockey with their dates in sun dresses.
Who can forget Dan Campbell’s infamous qute in 1998: “Im just happy I go to a school where men like women, and women like men.”
t-sips are pathetic bandwagon blowhards who know next to nothing about football. When Mack Brown became the head coach in December of ‘97, he had to tell the ’sips to “Come Early, Be Loud, Stay Late, Wear Orange”. They even had t-shirts made up with this, said ‘texas tradition’ on it.
Everywhere else, they know how to be fans; in Austin, they needs lessons and need to be reminded of what to do.
Last year, they started the “Make Texas Proud” campaign, in an attempt to stop the ’sips from being their boorish asshole selves at games.
That has to be a first.
Even the hooligans of Bucknut Nation and the drunkards of LSU don’t have marketing campaigns to regulate behavior.
Comment by Beergut — May 8, 2007 @ 9:58 pm
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Indiana Football games consist of the following:
1. People who actually watch the game (former football players and parents of children 8 and under)
2. People who tailgate through the first half and stumble into their seats during the second half (alumni and parents of students)
3. People who don’t really think there is a game, only a giant tailgate (students)
They all still wonder why the university doesn’t just cover the field in hardwood and plant the goals a little closer. Maybe then they could fill the stadium.
Comment by Nick — May 8, 2007 @ 9:50 pm
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Ok, I can’t stand it any more. This is FACT.
1) All male UNC-Chapel Hill students are gay. All of them. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
2) UNC-CH has more Wal-Mart fans than any other school. Whenever you see some toothless idiot in an interview on TV (”… and then the whole trailer just burst into flames!”), chances are high they will have a Tarholes hat on. They couldn’t find the state of NC on a map of the Carolinas, but they love their ‘Heels.
3) All UNC-CH females are hot. I ought to know, I married one. (That’s what us Wolfpack men do, we know where the hotties are, and that ain’t at the respectable landgrant institutions)!
Ok, I feel better now.
Comment by Raleigh — May 8, 2007 @ 8:22 pm
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Eff it- I’m gonna say it.
VPISU Fans:
1. Don’t like it when you call it “VA Tech.” It’s on the band uniforms. If you don’t like it, take it of the uniform.
2. Seem completely unaware of the existence of other schools. To hear the average VT fan talk, you’d think no other school had a fight song, an interesting mascot, or school spirit. At last year’s UVa-VT game, we were getting dump-trucked, but finally scored. We all linked arms and sang the Good Old Song, and the group of Hokies near us looked genuinely confused, with looks on their faces like “Wait, WE are the ones who love OUR school. People at other school like their school too? Does not compute.”
3. In the same vein, know very little about college football outside of VT, even less about college football before 1999, and nothing before 1995.
4. Only want to talk about football and engineering, as though those are the only two legitimate purposes a university serves. Basketball? Medicene? Baseball? Law? Wrestling? Business? Having more women than men at your school? “Those things are for effete UVa a**holes.”
Obviously, while I hope the go 0-fer in sports, I would never wish any of them ill.
And yes, people at UVa wear khakis with V-Sabres emroidered all over them. And bowties. Yes, to football games. It’s strange.
Comment by now_a_hoo — May 8, 2007 @ 5:40 pm
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#128 correct about Rutgers. I was in attendance for the annual Bobby Petrino squat to pee game at Rutgers. When they beat UL, the fans didn’t rally know what to do. Didn’t really talk smack to the UL fans in attendance, as most had only learned that RU had a team the preceeding week. I was expecting way more Camaro drivers and wispy moustaches in satin yankee jackets.
Comment by jon — May 8, 2007 @ 5:20 pm
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Also, the map should say “Soap?” over Hawai’i.
Comment by now_a_hoo — May 8, 2007 @ 5:12 pm
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WVU fans are not permitted to have more than 14 teeth total and must love the taste of moonshine in the morning. Research hasn’t confirmed if the two are related.
If that teeth thing is true, then I’m having second thoughts about my unrequited love for CBG.
Comment by Kakistocrat — May 8, 2007 @ 4:58 pm
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Even Clemson fans uninformed enough to believe GT is an agricultural school love to brag ‘We’uns smarterest than y’all, accordin to what them writin yankees tollded evybody in them fancy magazines. Ain’t got nothin to do with the engineerin and whatnot neither. We’s just bornded thataway.’
Before the lottery, GT was higher rated academically than UGa. If the SC lottery is as successful as demographics suggest, middle class and upper class kids will soon take advantage of the regressive tax on the stupid to propel USC past Clemson. But nobody can ever take your orange overalls away from you.
Comment by Chg — May 8, 2007 @ 4:53 pm
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Most everyone I’ve ever known went to VPI. It made a difference in their lives and is good for my beloved Commonwealth. Can I comment on their football fans qua football fans yet?
Comment by now_a_hoo — May 8, 2007 @ 4:50 pm
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#91
Don’t let your hatred of the football program take over your honesty. Knoxville and UT have tons and tons and tons of hot women.
Comment by Doug The Power T — May 8, 2007 @ 4:49 pm