EDSBS LIVE! RETRO EDITION.

1) Okla-freaking-homa. The plane hadn’t crashed into the mountain by 1990, although Gary Gibbs had it dead ahead on his radar. Six MNC’s before 1990, and finished up the era strong with Barry-ball.

2) Michael Stonebreaker, LB, Notre Dame. My favorite on name alone, but it was even better that he was a medium-sized white boy.

3) Instant God-damn replay.

4) Sophia Loren. I really don’t think an explanation is necessary.

1) I didn’t get into college football until after 1990, so I’m going to say the 1919 Buckeyes-first win against Michigan.
2) Reagan. What the fuck.
3) Televised half-time shows. Always.
4) Sophia Loren.

In the spirit of preparing for tonight’s throwdown, I have been conversing with my uppity Santa Monica officemates exclusively in my native twang. They are, to say the least, nonplussed.

The final question is sure to get the boys all riled up after Texasgal’s/Holly’s call.

1.) Pick a Bama team from the 70s (I’m going to time it and see who jumps first, Domers or Barners)

2.) Walker is a good choice.

3.) The Golden Flake Ole Miss vs. Mississipi State game brought to you by O’Reily Auto Parts at Regions Bank Field in Verizon Wireless Stadium…

4.) Jill. St. John.

1. USC – ’72 Edition

2. Marcus Allen – Ah, the memories of him running all over the Coliseum.

3. Brent Musberger. Enough said.

4. Grace Kelly – mmmmm. Innocent looks get me every time.

Since I know that tuning in this evening won’t be possible:

1) I was going to pick the 1932 USC Thundering Herd team – unbeaten season, 201 points scored to 13 allowed (in 2 games) – but I don’t know whether they were integrated or not. So I’ll go with the 1972 unbeaten USC MNC team, because they beat Ohio State to win the Rose Bowl and the MNC, and the best throwback fashion is one that still resonates today.

2) Let the homerism continue: Sam “Bam” Cunningham for helping convince the ‘Bammers that perhaps they should tolerate Bear Bryant’s crazy notion of fielding black players.

3) The forward pass. Two platoon squads. Wait, that would be rugby. Never mind.

4) Classy choice: Hedy Lamarr. Less classy choice: Raven de la Croix from Up!

1. Who’s the best pre-1990 college football team of all time?
not including fielding yost’s "point a minute wolverines I would have to the 1987 miami hurricanes. jiimy johnson coaching, dave “the mustache” wannsted at d-cord, the playmaker at wideout, steve “i was better at miami than even ken dorsey” walsh, et. solid team, beat 5 top ten teams, and blew the doors of #10 arkansas 51-7. they even beat the boz and switzer in the orange bowl.

2. Your favorite pre-1990 football player?
without a doubt jimmy harbaugh, he guaranteed a win over the bucks and boy did he deliver, not only did he beat the bucks he also won a bowl game (over a solid nebraska team). He’s done something that recent michigan qbs have struggled to do, beat OSU and win a bowl game.
And I saw him scramble in the silver dome one time, it was a life changing moment

3. Get in touch with your inner Luddite: strike one aspect of the modern game and/or the way its broadcast.
For one game a year the forward pass would be illegal, and smashmouth football would return.

4. In our quest to prove Angelina Jolie is the most overrated hottie of all time, we ask you: who’s your favorite retro babe.
i don’t think angelina is overrated, so i don’t think i can rightfully comment on this question.

so, if we’re talking fully integrated the teams should ideally be from roughly 1970 to 1990?

As to question 4, and with all due respect to Ms. Loren, it’s hard to beat Mary Tyler Moore on the old Dick Van Dyke show.

#8-I second your answer to question 3. Preferably on November 17th.

Inspired pick, Darkknight. Television-wise, we like:

1. Roxie Roker
2. Barbara Eden.
3. Ellie Mae Clampett.

1. ND ’88

2. Rocket Ismail (started for the ’88 championship team as a frosh and a first-team AA in ’89 and ’90)

3. TV Timeouts

4. So many to choose from…let’s go with Ursula Andress

Diana Rigg.

1. Who’s the best pre-1990 college football team of all time?

1972 USC Trojans, of course!

2. Your favorite pre-1990 football player?

BO Jackson. Not only the best football player ever, but the best athlete evahhhhhh! (He made a back-up of one of my other favorites, who was an all-pro at the time, Marcus Allen.)

3. Strike one aspect of the modern game and/or the way its broadcast.

When fights occur, have the tv camera follow the damn fight, do not go to other shots. Football is a macho game, and when the need arises to kick ass, let the tv audience in on the action.

4. Favorite retro babe?

Raquel Welsh (especially when she was in the bikini throughout the cave man movie.),

or,

Lynda Carter (She was Wonder Woman! I do not know which pair was better, her eyes or her boobs. Actually, I noticed her eyes during the second season, so boobs it is!)

1) 1973 Miami (then-)Redskins. Went 11-0, gave up

These questions are bringing out the pastel pants, white belt, and white shoes crowd.

Diana Rigg being romanced by Muppets = HOTTT.

1)1983 Nebraska. I still wake up in a cold sweat from time to time thinking about the 1st college football game I went to. 84-13? WHY????

2) Ricky Foggie. Fuck you, Michigan.

3) Less sound on television. Not the bands, or the pads, or the fans. Just the announcers.

4) Jill St. John is a great choice. Can’t go wrong with the redheads. So I’ll go with Sophia Loren

#4-Barbara and Catherine Bach. Given time, I’m sure I could come up with more.

By the way, y’all – we have a confirmed second special guest:

Professor Ron Smith, author of Sports and Freedom: The Rise of Big-Time College Athletics

1. Alabama 1979.

2. Herschel Walker

3. ESPN has to go back 15 years, and do it the way they did it then (before they got all self-important).

4. Audrey Hepburn. End of discussion.

3. The BCS. Come on folks, this isn’t a hard question.

Audrey Hepburn is clearly Class A China Doll Beautiful… but I’d break her… I mean seriously, she only weighed like 83lbs.

I mean seriously, she only weighed like 83lbs.

And that was after she pigged out and had 4 grapes for breakfast.

catherine spaak. good enough for the cover of life magazine, good enough for me. also, aged a hell of a lot better than bardot.

Hmm. Seems my comment didn’t work the first time. Oh well.

1) Notre Dame 1973. They held the best rushing offense in America (Bama) to ZERO Rushing yards in the 1st Quarter of the Sugar Bowl, which they won 24-23. I won $10 bucks on that game at the tender age of 14.

2) Herschel Walker, not even close.

3) Lincoln Financial, for obvious reasons, most notably the Unholy Trinity of Daves.

4) Jill St. John; if she was good enough for Sinatra, she’s good enough for me.

1. Penn State 1973
2. Mike Reid
3. tv timeouts, agreed
4. Gregory Peck

1-3—to be answered tonight.
4. This chick:

http://blog.scifi.com/tech/pics/bionicarm.jpg

Like you wouldn’t do it…

she was good enough for kissenger, so what does that tell you?

1. The best team I’ve ever seen was the one that didn’t win the MNC, USC’s in 1979. FOUR NFL hall of famers on the same team (Marcus Allen, Anthony Munoz, Ronnie Lott, Bruce Matthews) One running back captured the all time NCAA carrier rushing record (Charles White) and the other went on to set the NCAA single season rushing record (Marcus Allen). They were undefeated but a 2nd half-letdown against John Elway’s Stanford cost them the MNC.

2) Ronnie Lott

3) TV timeouts

4) Ingrid Bergman since Diana Rigg is already taken.

as alfred hitchcock observed… “ahh ingrid. she’d do it with doorknobs.”

Like you wouldn’t do it…

You’d need the lube at either end to prevent squeaking.

Ursula, Unquestionably.

Caption contest:
http://www.imdb.com/gallery/mptv/1342/2022_0012.jpg.html?path=pgallery&path_key=Andress%2C%20Ursula&seq=7

1) The 1995-6 Gators. College football didn’t exist before 1990 to Gator fans.

2) See above.

3) Any uniform rolled out by Nike for a one time game.

4) Either Raquel Welch or Ingrid Bergman

Orson,

Outstanding choice of Diana Rigg…I was still attracted to her as a lady in her 60’s doing intros on PBS, just because I could remember the “Avengers” so well. Catherine Zeta Jones’ catsuit had nothing on Ol’ Diana’s.

Second choice: The chick who played opposite Charlton Heston on “The Planet of the Apes”… Hubba-Hubba!

IMDB can be such fun: her name is Linda Harrison

http://www.imdb.com/gallery/hh/0365709/HH/0365709/1044955_01.jpg.html?hint=group

1. I turned 10 in 1990, so my general knowledge may not be up to par. It pains me to say it, but maybe ND ’88 (they beat undefeated WVU in the Fiesta Bowl that year). Or Nebraska in ’71 (family brainwashing).

2. Major Harris

3. Corporate sponsorship of college stadiums

4. Sean Connery as 007 – no brainer. Marilyn Monroe and Grace Kelly are both hotties as far as the ladies go… I like blonds.

HOMER SANDWICH!

1) 1958 LSU squad.
2) Billy Cannon: You like speed? You like power? How about both? Plus, he didn’t go after Fulmer points till after his career.
3) The bands need to be mic’d. That’s a huge draw for me for the college game. Also, this gossip disguised as coverage needs to stop in the sports world. It’s starting to sound like Mean Girls.
4) Julie Newmar, and that ends this discussion. Oh, the Catwoman costume . . .

1. Georgia Tech (blasphemy, but if you include 1990 theyd be top 10 legitly)

2. The greatest muther fucker of all time, Clinton Dillard Catleberry, Jr.

3. If you’re not good enough to know how far a first down is, stop watching.

4. Marylin Monroe, if you’ve ever seen “Some Like it Hot” then you know what I’m talking about.

…if you want a year Id say GT 1951 and 1952. Balling outta control.

1) Michigan State, either the ’65 or the ’66 editions.

2) Anthony Carter could run circles around HW. Finesse over brute force.

3) Overuse of graphics in telecasts. Clocks, score and down count, with a translucent bug for the network are all fine. Get all of that other crap off the screen, already.

4) Marilyn, Bettie Page, or P.J. Soles. I’m not picky.

#1. I’ll choose 1971 Nebraska because they beat Alabama 38-6 in the Orange Bowl.
#2. Bo Jackson
#3. I’d like to see teams use the Fullback again.
#4.Cheryl Tiegs. I saw her about two years ago in a restaurant and she still looks great.

Careful what you wish for in those Fellini films, O- remember, he cast Giulietta Masini in quite a few of them, and while her skills as an actress are impeccable, her skills as a babe are, well, let’s just say it would take a mind like Fellini’s to be able to knock that out.

1. 1972 USC Trojans

2. Jim Brown

3. Bowl games being played after New Year’s Day (or Jan. 2 if the first falls on a Sunday)

4. Grace Kelly

My thoughts –
1. The USC team w/ Sam CUnningham – I think 1972
2. My favorite – Bert Jones – for some sentimental reaons
3. get rid of the facemasks; then let’s see the real toughness come out to play
4. Got to be Maureen O’Hara for me – any woman who can hold her own opposite John Wayne is my fave!

What the fuck is wrong with the chat?

LOS CRONICAS CONTINUES!!!

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oh, and since I got pulled away from the call-in show tonight before I could answer the questions

1)Early 80’s SMU. Too bed so crooked that you can both make SMU a champion and earn the only instance of the Death Penalty must have been amazing to see in person.

2) My clearest memory from my first Arkansas games in the late 80s is of Steve Atwater knocking the shit out of people. I’m taking Steve as my favorite pre-90s collegeian.

3) Holly said it tonight during the broadcast – fake ads being placed on the field. I hate that shit.

4) As a child of the south, my earliest erections were to Catherine Bach during reruns of the Dukes.

er, that should read “To be so crooked”

me spell gud

1. 1988 Notre Dame – 23-game win streak including wins over seven Top 10 teams and twelve bowl teams. From the end of 88 to the beginning of 89, the Irish beat #2, #3 and #2 — all in a row. Crazy.
2. Joe Montana – The prototype, the comeback kid, simply the best.
3. Commercial breaks, yeah, I can’t think of anything worse, though I wish I could answer ESPN – the best and worst thing to happen to college football.
4. Katherine Ross – The Graduate, Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. Beautiful, a good actress, she had it all.

Southern Papa @ #47 I like the way you think – back when SC played real football right?

and caption contest for #35 “baby I couldn’t be any more impressed if they squirted dry martinis!”

shaken. not stirred.

1) Penn State 1986 knocking off the evil Hurricanes in the Fiesta Bowl.

2) Pete Giftopolous who grabbed the last second interception on in the ‘87 Fiesta Bowl or and I can’t believe no one has said this already Barry Sanders.

3) Get rid of artificial turf and bring back the wishbone.

4) Audrey Hepburn or Ann Margaret.

1. 1988 Notre Dame. 1987 was the first year I really paid attention, and as an Irish fan growing up in Florida, my top 3 FB moments are the ’88 Miami game, the ’93 FSU game, and the Sugar Bowl vs. UF. That ’88 team made me fall in love with the option. Thank you, Tony Rice.

2. Chris Zorich. Though he was pretty small for a nosetackle, you always thought he was going to eat the opposing team’s center.

3. I second the “no games after 1 Jan” motion. January 1st used to be THE day—a non-stop bonanza of the best college football. Moving the BCS games off of it takes them from being the icing on the cake to being “crap, I’ve got to work that day” affairs. To this, I will add that no piddly bowls will be played in January. Do you hear me, Boise? Bowls should be ranked by importance, and played in ascending order; the Freeze Your Balls Bowl in sunny Billings, Montana should be in the middle of December. Putting these crap bowls has two effects: it minimizes the recognition of the teams in the game (seriously, during BCS week, is ANYONE, even fans of those teams, paying attention to Akron vs. Tulsa in the Afterthought Bowl, brought to you by Pocari Sweat? I think not); and it puts a hiccup in the “buildup” that is the true beauty of Bowl Season.

4. (Tie) Mie Hama & Akiko Wakabayashi.

Jesus frogstompers, I sounded like I was in a goddamn windtunnel. Sorry about the breathing, y’all, never calling with the headset on again.

Agree with OC Phil,

1. 1979 USC. You forgot to mention Dennis Smith, Brad Budde and Don Mosbar. If Robo-coach hadn’t taken out all his starters with a 21-0 halftime lead, the MNC was theirs.

2. I loved Charlie White. Zigging and zagging all over. Also taught me not to view athletes as role models.

3. Puff pieces. It all started with Sal Aunese at Colorado.

4. Julie Christie. She still looks hot and she’s gotta be 60.

Well those guy’s were “only” all pros and not hall of famers. I think a linebacker or two must have fallen into that category as well. Maybe Gray/Ellison? I’m not sure if he was on that team or not. Also there was future NFL coach Jeff Fisher, but I think Jack Del Rio was a year or two later.

I agree with you on Robinson taking out the starters. I was in the stands for that game (yeah, I’m a geezer) and it was like an episode of the twilight zone. It just shows how much momentum plays into the game.

Speaking of which, anybody who watched todays Man U.-Milan champions league game who could say that soccer is boring would have to be a total idiot. Damn, that was an awesome game.

1) 1977 Notre Dame team….Exposed Earl Campbell

2) Tony Rice – had zero style points, but was the toughest QB I’ve ever seen (this from a guy who lined up behind a guard on his first play vs Pittsburgh in 1986).

3) Beavis & Butthead halftime show during the superbowl

4) Raquel Welsh…..enough said

1. Purley homer pick since I refuse to research it- 1980 UGA

2. H.W. is too obvious, so I’ll say Jake Scott. Pure caveman badass!

3. Taking 7 minutes to review a play that I saw clearly in 2.5 seconds on national TV.

4. No question, Julie Christie (though #58 beat me to it). “Can’t really explain why” runner-up: Donna Reed. Throw me in the Audrey Hepburn lover’s camp as well.

oc phil,

Chip Banks was also on the ‘79 team. Remember his interception against ND in the ’80 game? If he had had his head on straight, he would’ve been an HOF’er, too. Dennis Smith should be one, if not already.

1.) 1983 Nebraska. I know they didn’t “win” the “national title,” but that team was sick.

2.) Bo Jackson. Yeah.

3.) Here’s a third vote for “putting more bowl games back to January 1st.” The national title game feels like such an afterthought coming a full week after the first.

4.) You’d be hard-pressed to find a hotter female than Ann-Margret in “The Cincinnati Kid.” Good golly.

1. 1976 Pitt. Guess who for #2?
2. Tony Dorsett. What? Were you people not born yet?
3. Artificial rivalries with trophies like the “Land Grant Trophy”.
4. Ann-Margaret. Man, that chick could shake it.

1. 1987 Miami
2. Orenthal
3. BCS
4. Donna Reed

I definitely fear, and am strangely attracted to, Holly, all at the same time.

Incidentally, Ronald Reagan would have offered a glimpse into how he would later destroy communism via his sheer will and manliness.

Then you would have wanted to be the one to have an affair with Sinatra and consult psychics to counsel the leader of the free world.

Dear Lord, Nancy Reagan was batshit insane. But, that is what you get for knocking her up and having to marry her, Ronnie.

Dear Lord, Nancy Reagan was batshit insane. But, that is what you get for knocking her up and having to marry her, Ronnie.

I was talking once – in the late 80s, I think – to a bunch of old Orange County (CA) Lady Republicans (don’t call them women!) and they all hated Nancy Reagan… said that she notoriously blown anyone in Hollywood who would hold still for 5 minutes, and that they couldn’t believe that Ronnie had actually married her. For what that’s worth.

DCTrojan,

I remember the “truly” great SC teams of the early 70’s, with Sam, then they had some kid named Anthony Davis, who I still think got screwed over for the Heisman. John McKay also seemed to be cut from very classy material.

To SeaTrojan # 58, just remember, that ’79 team was just an incidental facemask call away from a loss in Tiger Stadium. However, I have to give them credit: they came into one of the most hostile environments I have ever seen, and snuck away with a win. It inspired Brad Budde to say about Death Valley “This place makes Notre Dame look like Romper Room.”

Damn, boys…talk about a fuckin’ train wreck!

Entertaining as usual!

1. Any Penn State team from about 1968 to 1972. They used to beat us with guys who weren’t even listed in the program.

2. Dickie Lyons Senior. One man wrecking crew.

3. Brent Musburger – there is no alternative.

4. Claudia Cardinale in “The Professionals”

I haven’t seen “The Professionals,” but Claudia Cardinale was stunningly beautiful in “Once Upon a Time in the West.” Great catch, nobody remembers her…

Ms. Cardinale was great in everything. As my old pappy would say,“She could make a young man stand up and an old man shout”.

Also for your consideration: Tuesday Weld (in The Cincinnati KId, she could hold her own with Ms. Margaret).

Carolyn Jones as Morticia Addams or not.

And if you’re into Scotch and broads, two great broads: Gloria Grahame and Susan Hayward.

1. 1950-51 Kentucky (The Bear Years)

2. Andy Kelly – As of 2003 that mofo was still slingin footballs around indoors in the summer, playing golf at Pine Lakes in the spring, and drinkin $1 CAN NATTY LITES at Liquid Knoxville (RIP) in the fall.

3. Ban on booze in stadium

4. Phoebe Cates – best pause ever

1.1972 USC Trojans.

2. I see your Hershel and raise you Bo Jackson.

3. Celebration rule. College Football was never as much fun once backup Center’s from “Da U” stopped getting a part in every TD dance. I want to see the whole damn 3-deep doing kick-steps in the end zone after every meaningless first quarter field goal.

4. How retro is retro? Joan Cusack in her prime (Say Anything -> My Blue Heaven) still makes my pillow case sticky. Sophia Loren wins if we have to go pre-1980.

Southern Papa #68,

I remember that. I believe it was something like 17-12. A few years ago I read an article by a former LSU player from that team who had gotten back in touch with some of his teammates because of the impending death of Charlie McClendon. He had become a writer and had lost interest in football and lost touch with his teammates because of divergent paths. One of those “where has the time gone” pieces without the cheesy, vomit inducing sentimentality. I believe it was in Harper’s or a magazine of similar ilk.

If that ‘79 Trojan team had been coached by McKay or Carroll, it would’ve gone down as one of the greatest of all time. Instead, it’s another story of what might’ve been.

Regarding the female issue,

Racquel Welch and Ann Margaret might be the two hottest women of the last 50 years, but I don’t know that they were ever “underrated”.