EDSBS LIVE! RETRO EDITION.
Tonight we go retro on EDSBS Live, the most satisfying hour and a half of entertainment not featuring Skip Bayless being chased by wolves.

Who? Orson and Peter, of course. Over seven months of honest work between the two of us. That’s commitment, people.
What: EDSBS LIVE online radio You can also click the little EDSBS Live! banner thingy on the right sidebar to get to the show.
Where: At NowLive, where you can chat with each other and the show hosts throughout the broadcast in the online forum, where Orson demonstrates his awesomez in the ADD department by making frequent comments AND talking ninety miles an hour simultaneously. To phone in to the show, just call (310) 984-7600.
What: Tonight our guests will be John Lopez of the Houston Chronicle, bloggeresque columnist and expert on all things Texas, and you, hopefully cranked off three drinks and looking for something to punch.
Drinking? We encourage it. The beverage of the night? Vodka Tonic, please.
Four Questions: As always, our four questions for the night.
1. Who’s the best pre-1990 college football team of all time? Crapshoot of all crapshoots, but we won’t tolerate any Beano Cook-style “AHHHH ARMY ‘47″ arguments, because black people could not play on the same field as white people at that time save for a few enlightened coastal institutions.
2. Your favorite pre-1990 football player? Blasphemy incarnate here, but we’re handing that to Herschel Walker and watching him run over the universe. Dawg or not, he was Jehovah in cleats.
3. Get in touch with your inner Luddite: strike one aspect of the modern game and/or the way its broadcast. Dead horse kicked: commercial breaks, be gone.
4. In our quest to prove Angelina Jolie is the most overrated hottie of all time, we ask you: who’s your favorite retro babe?
Rita Hayworth, Lauren Bacall in The Big Sleep, any woman who ever appeared in a Federico Fellini movie…ah, there’s a long, long list. But our Ass from the Past is Pam Grier: hot, stylish, forever running around naked and shooting things in the name of vengeance.

See you tonight at 7:30 EST.









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speakirish says:
1. 1988 Notre Dame – 23-game win streak including wins over seven Top 10 teams and twelve bowl teams. From the end of 88 to the beginning of 89, the Irish beat #2, #3 and #2 — all in a row. Crazy.
2. Joe Montana – The prototype, the comeback kid, simply the best.
3. Commercial breaks, yeah, I can’t think of anything worse, though I wish I could answer ESPN – the best and worst thing to happen to college football.
4. Katherine Ross – The Graduate, Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. Beautiful, a good actress, she had it all.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:35 pm
52
DC Trojan says:
Southern Papa @ #47 I like the way you think – back when SC played real football right?
April 24th, 2007 at 8:42 pm
53
DC Trojan says:
and caption contest for #35 “baby I couldn’t be any more impressed if they squirted dry martinis!”
April 24th, 2007 at 8:43 pm
54
kleph says:
shaken. not stirred.
April 24th, 2007 at 9:27 pm
55
Go Blue, Eh! says:
1) Penn State 1986 knocking off the evil Hurricanes in the Fiesta Bowl.
2) Pete Giftopolous who grabbed the last second interception on in the ‘87 Fiesta Bowl or and I can’t believe no one has said this already Barry Sanders.
3) Get rid of artificial turf and bring back the wishbone.
4) Audrey Hepburn or Ann Margaret.
April 24th, 2007 at 9:45 pm
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Nate says:
1. 1988 Notre Dame. 1987 was the first year I really paid attention, and as an Irish fan growing up in Florida, my top 3 FB moments are the ‘88 Miami game, the ‘93 FSU game, and the Sugar Bowl vs. UF. That ‘88 team made me fall in love with the option. Thank you, Tony Rice.
2. Chris Zorich. Though he was pretty small for a nosetackle, you always thought he was going to eat the opposing team’s center.
3. I second the “no games after 1 Jan” motion. January 1st used to be *THE* day–a non-stop bonanza of the best college football. Moving the BCS games off of it takes them from being the icing on the cake to being “crap, I’ve got to work that day” affairs. To this, I will add that no piddly bowls will be played in January. Do you hear me, Boise? Bowls should be ranked by importance, and played in ascending order; the Freeze Your Balls Bowl in sunny Billings, Montana should be in the middle of December. Putting these crap bowls has two effects: it minimizes the recognition of the teams in the game (seriously, during BCS week, is ANYONE, even fans of those teams, paying attention to Akron vs. Tulsa in the Afterthought Bowl, brought to you by Pocari Sweat? I think not); and it puts a hiccup in the “buildup” that is the true beauty of Bowl Season.
4. (Tie) Mie Hama & Akiko Wakabayashi.
April 24th, 2007 at 9:52 pm
57
Holly says:
Jesus frogstompers, I sounded like I was in a goddamn windtunnel. Sorry about the breathing, y’all, never calling with the headset on again.
April 24th, 2007 at 10:44 pm
58
SeaTrojan says:
Agree with OC Phil,
1. 1979 USC. You forgot to mention Dennis Smith, Brad Budde and Don Mosbar. If Robo-coach hadn’t taken out all his starters with a 21-0 halftime lead, the MNC was theirs.
2. I loved Charlie White. Zigging and zagging all over. Also taught me not to view athletes as role models.
3. Puff pieces. It all started with Sal Aunese at Colorado.
4. Julie Christie. She still looks hot and she’s gotta be 60.
April 24th, 2007 at 10:45 pm
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oc phil says:
Well those guy’s were “only” all pros and not hall of famers. I think a linebacker or two must have fallen into that category as well. Maybe Gray/Ellison? I’m not sure if he was on that team or not. Also there was future NFL coach Jeff Fisher, but I think Jack Del Rio was a year or two later.
I agree with you on Robinson taking out the starters. I was in the stands for that game (yeah, I’m a geezer) and it was like an episode of the twilight zone. It just shows how much momentum plays into the game.
Speaking of which, anybody who watched todays Man U.-Milan champions league game who could say that soccer is boring would have to be a total idiot. Damn, that was an awesome game.
April 25th, 2007 at 2:37 am
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cuss says:
1) 1977 Notre Dame team….Exposed Earl Campbell
2) Tony Rice – had zero style points, but was the toughest QB I’ve ever seen (this from a guy who lined up behind a guard on his first play vs Pittsburgh in 1986).
3) Beavis & Butthead halftime show during the superbowl
4) Raquel Welsh…..enough said
April 25th, 2007 at 6:12 am
61
Because They Can says:
1. Purley homer pick since I refuse to research it- 1980 UGA
2. H.W. is too obvious, so I’ll say Jake Scott. Pure caveman badass!
3. Taking 7 minutes to review a play that I saw clearly in 2.5 seconds on national TV.
4. No question, Julie Christie (though #58 beat me to it). “Can’t really explain why” runner-up: Donna Reed. Throw me in the Audrey Hepburn lover’s camp as well.
April 25th, 2007 at 6:51 am
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SeaTrojan says:
oc phil,
Chip Banks was also on the ‘79 team. Remember his interception against ND in the ‘80 game? If he had had his head on straight, he would’ve been an HOF’er, too. Dennis Smith should be one, if not already.
April 25th, 2007 at 7:07 am
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Jack says:
1.) 1983 Nebraska. I know they didn’t “win” the “national title,” but that team was sick.
2.) Bo Jackson. Yeah.
3.) Here’s a third vote for “putting more bowl games back to January 1st.” The national title game feels like such an afterthought coming a full week after the first.
4.) You’d be hard-pressed to find a hotter female than Ann-Margret in “The Cincinnati Kid.” Good golly.
April 25th, 2007 at 7:51 am
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apostles03 says:
1. 1976 Pitt. Guess who for #2?
2. Tony Dorsett. What? Were you people not born yet?
3. Artificial rivalries with trophies like the “Land Grant Trophy”.
4. Ann-Margaret. Man, that chick could shake it.
April 25th, 2007 at 8:14 am
65
Joe Gator says:
1. 1987 Miami
2. Orenthal
3. BCS
4. Donna Reed
April 25th, 2007 at 8:19 am
66
Coop says:
I definitely fear, and am strangely attracted to, Holly, all at the same time.
Incidentally, Ronald Reagan would have offered a glimpse into how he would later destroy communism via his sheer will and manliness.
Then you would have wanted to be the one to have an affair with Sinatra and consult psychics to counsel the leader of the free world.
Dear Lord, Nancy Reagan was batshit insane. But, that is what you get for knocking her up and having to marry her, Ronnie.
April 25th, 2007 at 9:13 am
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DC Trojan says:
Dear Lord, Nancy Reagan was batshit insane. But, that is what you get for knocking her up and having to marry her, Ronnie.
I was talking once – in the late 80s, I think – to a bunch of old Orange County (CA) Lady Republicans (don’t call them women!) and they all hated Nancy Reagan… said that she notoriously blown anyone in Hollywood who would hold still for 5 minutes, and that they couldn’t believe that Ronnie had actually married her. For what that’s worth.
April 25th, 2007 at 9:40 am
68
Southern Papa says:
DCTrojan,
I remember the “truly” great SC teams of the early 70’s, with Sam, then they had some kid named Anthony Davis, who I still think got screwed over for the Heisman. John McKay also seemed to be cut from very classy material.
To SeaTrojan # 58, just remember, that ‘79 team was just an incidental facemask call away from a loss in Tiger Stadium. However, I have to give them credit: they came into one of the most hostile environments I have ever seen, and snuck away with a win. It inspired Brad Budde to say about Death Valley “This place makes Notre Dame look like Romper Room.”
April 25th, 2007 at 10:00 am
69
Aerobab says:
Damn, boys…talk about a fuckin’ train wreck!
Entertaining as usual!
April 25th, 2007 at 10:08 am
70
rocket screen says:
1. Any Penn State team from about 1968 to 1972. They used to beat us with guys who weren’t even listed in the program.
2. Dickie Lyons Senior. One man wrecking crew.
3. Brent Musburger – there is no alternative.
4. Claudia Cardinale in “The Professionals”
April 25th, 2007 at 10:13 am
71
Jack says:
I haven’t seen “The Professionals,” but Claudia Cardinale was stunningly beautiful in “Once Upon a Time in the West.” Great catch, nobody remembers her…
April 25th, 2007 at 11:09 am
72
rocket screen says:
Ms. Cardinale was great in everything. As my old pappy would say,”She could make a young man stand up and an old man shout”.
Also for your consideration: Tuesday Weld (in The Cincinnati KId, she could hold her own with Ms. Margaret).
Carolyn Jones as Morticia Addams or not.
And if you’re into Scotch and broads, two great broads: Gloria Grahame and Susan Hayward.
April 25th, 2007 at 11:50 am
73
Grubby says:
1. 1950-51 Kentucky (The Bear Years)
2. Andy Kelly – As of 2003 that mofo was still slingin footballs around indoors in the summer, playing golf at Pine Lakes in the spring, and drinkin $1 CAN NATTY LITES at Liquid Knoxville (RIP) in the fall.
3. Ban on booze in stadium
4. Phoebe Cates – best pause ever
April 25th, 2007 at 1:17 pm
74
Sam says:
1.1972 USC Trojans.
2. I see your Hershel and raise you Bo Jackson.
3. Celebration rule. College Football was never as much fun once backup Center’s from “Da U” stopped getting a part in every TD dance. I want to see the whole damn 3-deep doing kick-steps in the end zone after every meaningless first quarter field goal.
4. How retro is retro? Joan Cusack in her prime (Say Anything -> My Blue Heaven) still makes my pillow case sticky. Sophia Loren wins if we have to go pre-1980.
April 25th, 2007 at 6:06 pm
75
SeaTrojan says:
Southern Papa #68,
I remember that. I believe it was something like 17-12. A few years ago I read an article by a former LSU player from that team who had gotten back in touch with some of his teammates because of the impending death of Charlie McClendon. He had become a writer and had lost interest in football and lost touch with his teammates because of divergent paths. One of those “where has the time gone” pieces without the cheesy, vomit inducing sentimentality. I believe it was in Harper’s or a magazine of similar ilk.
If that ‘79 Trojan team had been coached by McKay or Carroll, it would’ve gone down as one of the greatest of all time. Instead, it’s another story of what might’ve been.
April 25th, 2007 at 6:31 pm
76
SeaTrojan says:
Regarding the female issue,
Racquel Welch and Ann Margaret might be the two hottest women of the last 50 years, but I don’t know that they were ever “underrated”.
April 25th, 2007 at 6:35 pm