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FULMER CUP-DATE: TOLEDO FALLS, LSU STEADY RISIN'

This week's Fulmer Cup Board, courtesy of reader Brian. Addenda and corrections follow:

Notes, apologies, corrections, pleas for help...

Toledo possibly needs their points shaved...since the point shaving charges against them are "on hold" according to investigators. It's unknown whether this is fishing for an immunity/plea bargain thingy to pursue the ringleaders of the points-shaving scandal at Toledo or just legal futzing around. For the purposes of Fulmer Cup scoring, we'll hold them until something more definitive comes out regarding the case.

You don't disrespect the roller rink without consequences. Arky State booms in the polls due to a parking lot brawl at a roller skating rink. They earned the points fair and square, but as someone with deep, lovely memories of rocking out to "Lookin' At the Front Door" while clumsily bounce-skating, the penalty for violating the sanctity of a roller rink seems paltry.

LSU, up like Lexington Steele. With Illinois so far out as a result of the work of two very, very active "acquisition experts," we're resorting to NASCAR-style announcing and hyping the second and third place spots as "the real race."

LSU has made impressive strides to climb to nine points. Florida and Michigan are in a duel for second place with no real challengers besides the Bayou Bengals. The lone rogue wave here could be the Penn State burglary case, which may or may not yield huge points for the Nittany Lions. We've given up on actually seeing any points from that or the Cory Boyd gun-waving case out of South Carolina.

Dennis? Where the Sun Devils are in all this is beyond us. Perhaps it takes a few months for Dennis Erickson's mojo to spread around campus, but in a place with porn stars on campus and a reputation as being a Sodom and Gomorrah with financial aid, ASU's absence seems very strange to us.

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That’s an adorably long paragraph in that Toledo story.

If the point shaving inquiry ends here, the Feds mighta screwed up big time.

by Suss on Apr 23, 2007 3:05 PM EDT reply actions  

At this point, I don’t think our rogue wave will end up doing any damage outside of toppling a shabby sand castle. One or two guys might get charged, but that’s it.

Is it okay that I have mixed feelings about Penn State not racking up 20+ points?

by Run Up The Score on Apr 23, 2007 3:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Toledo should get bonus points for getting a U.S. Attorney’s Office involved and triple letter points when ESPN makes a movie about the scandal.

by AUAlum on Apr 23, 2007 3:18 PM EDT reply actions  

So what are the rules regarding dismissal of offending players? Do you keep the points or not? Because I either want to win this bitch or not even be in contention.

by LSUJoshua on Apr 23, 2007 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

“The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist.” – Verbal Kent, aka Keyser Soze

A LOT of the problems transferred to Nebraska. Besides, most ASU “extracurriculars” happen during the fall semester when the fresh crop of 18 year-old porn stars arrive. Just give it time.

by Big Jon on Apr 23, 2007 3:48 PM EDT reply actions  

The Fulmer Cup is looking more and more like the AP Poll in mid November – 2 highly overrated Big Ten teams at the top of the polls and plenty of depth in the SEC with 7 teams total ‘representin’ the dirty dirty. I wonder if there is a mathematical equation that could express the direct correlation between ‘thuggin’ and ‘bowlin’?

by tOSUBuckeyes on Apr 23, 2007 3:48 PM EDT reply actions  

You keep them, even if players are kicked into bottomless pits after their arrests.

Red sauce on pasta for everyone.

by Orson Swindle on Apr 23, 2007 3:49 PM EDT reply actions  

http://www.oanow.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=OAN/MGArticle/OAN_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1173350903942&path=%21news

I originally put this in the wrong thread… Aubie is on the board. One big point.

by PeterPumpkinhead on Apr 23, 2007 4:11 PM EDT reply actions  

O- that animated gif is f’n hilarious!

by tOSU_radar on Apr 23, 2007 4:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes, the gif is pretty cool.
LSUJoshua, we may get even more points if any more comes out of the Ryan Perriloux “investigation”. That in itself should get at least one half point for the cloud of suspicion. And remember, with the speed with which the Tigers have added points, Speed = Championships .

by Southern Papa on Apr 23, 2007 4:40 PM EDT reply actions  

I find it great that two Florida coaches are in the top 3 of the Fulmer Cup standings. Then, when S. Carolina does it’s usual thing, we’ll have 3 Florida coaches in contention for the Fulmer Cup.

Fulmer Cup or Florida Cup?

Eh? eh? eh? eh?

by Doug The Power T on Apr 23, 2007 4:47 PM EDT reply actions  

I realize it’s early, but notable early exceptions include FSU, Miami, USC and Ohio State.

The state of Ohio is doing pretty well, however, with 2 teams representing.

by Jason on Apr 23, 2007 4:51 PM EDT reply actions  

With all this dropping points, adding points, and moving teams up, down, and sideways, I’d like to see a weekly chart progression. Maybe a little arrow to the side of the major movers.
I know this imitates the AP poll and MTV’s Top Twenty charting, both based heavily on the subjective interpretion of 2 mins of content by people distracted by anythign shiny, but the integrity of the Fulmer Cup is its objective basis… and the whim of EDSBS. All in all more definite than anything than ESPN could throw together

by FlyHigh on Apr 23, 2007 5:52 PM EDT reply actions  

I would think all of those brain surgeon Big Ten players would know better than to get into trouble with the law.
With 40 total Fulmer Cup points before May, I am anxiously awaiting a letter from Jim Delaney to blame it on society.

by Kecalf Bailey on Apr 23, 2007 6:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Jim Delaney my ass! When Myles Brand and/or Mike Tranghese step in, it’ll really get cooking.

But to the point of #13, should we ask for the services of a Jeff Sagarin?

by Southern Papa on Apr 23, 2007 6:31 PM EDT reply actions  

  1. Craig “Fricking 14-0 National Champion” Krenzel did major in molecular engineering for those of you scoring at home, and he was taking 600 and 700 level courses during his junior year. So yeah, the guys majoring in medical sciences usually don’t end up contributing to the fulmer cup totals.

by tOSUBuckeyes on Apr 23, 2007 7:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I still want negative points for Tommy Z: http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=109&p=2&c=636918

Just think what would happen if Ronnie Wilson had an extra $50k to fire around (or should I say fire a round—get it?)

by Irish Guy on Apr 23, 2007 7:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Don’t worry about Ohio. They’re off to the early lead but Florida will crush them mercilessly before it is all over.

We’ll blame it on the late start of spring in the North.

by NewAZTiger on Apr 23, 2007 8:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Orson, what happens if legal system moving at the speed of a snail doesn’t file charges in either the Toledo point shaving or PSU burgarly until the season starts? Does scoring stop when the season starts even when the charges pre-date the season? Do you revise the chart or the statutue run with the start of the season?

by BLSD on Apr 23, 2007 9:55 PM EDT reply actions  

As a Tennessee fan, I’m kind of puzzled as to why this is the “Fulmer Cup” and, yet, Tennessee is nowhere to be found. Perhaps this is run by a bitter Alabama fan?

by Unimane on Apr 23, 2007 11:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Yo tosubuckeye, based on your first post, you know something about statistics. So then why do you bring up a single datapoint on a team five years ago? Know what they call that in statistics? Outlier.

by rob on Apr 24, 2007 2:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Rob, don’t confuse the issue with your facts.

by NewAZTiger on Apr 24, 2007 7:26 AM EDT reply actions  

The Gators are staying tenacious, gunning for their former coach.

http://www.alligator.org/pt2/070424foot.php

Student accuses football player of robbery

By MIKE MCCALL
Alligator Writer

Five UF football players were involved in a confrontation at a weekend party, according to a Gainesville Police Department report.

The players, identified on the scene as scholarship football athletes by a UF student, were involved in a robbery at a party at Cabana Beach Apartments on Saturday.

The players have not been named by police, and UF coach Urban Meyer has yet to confirm that they are football players, the report states.

On Saturday, a UF student was taking kegs out of his truck when the men approached him. One 6-foot-4, 280-pound man attempted to steal his keg, cutting his neck in the process, according to the report. The cut was 5 to 6 inches long, the report states, and it appeared to be the result of a fingernail or ring.

The other four players on the scene restrained the attacker, who then broke away and assaulted the student again, slamming him into his truck, according to the report.

After the second attack, the players forced the attacker into a red Ford Taurus and began to leave the scene, the report states.

While the car was still moving, the attacker again tried to run at the victim, but was stopped by his teammates, who likely prevented a third attack, according to the report.

Several more players were at the party, but were not involved in the incident, the report states.

The incident is the third this month involving a UF football player.

Earlier, linebacker Dustin Doe was charged with fighting in public.

Offensive lineman Ronnie Wilson received felony charges of aggravated assault and the use, display or concealment of a weapon or firearm.

Saturday’s incident is not the first involving UF players and kegs.

Two years ago, linebacker Taurean Charles was dismissed from the team following another keg-related incident.

He was charged after throwing a keg at a UF student.

by AUAlum on Apr 24, 2007 8:01 AM EDT reply actions  

And Florida has some more points coming thier way:

http://www.alligator.org/pt2/070424foot.php

Also, be stunned by the journalistic skills of the Independent Florida Alligator.

by Matt on Apr 24, 2007 8:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Damn you AUAlum. Damn you to hell.

by Matt on Apr 24, 2007 8:09 AM EDT reply actions  

the Gator’s criminal enterprise should get points deducted for becoming boring. This Meyer offense is supposed to be exciting and dynamic

Link

by LWS on Apr 24, 2007 9:14 AM EDT reply actions  

#16, I believe you missed the point of my post. I was referring specifically to those fast defensive lineman that just aren’t cut out for the academic rigors of the Big Ten. More specifically I was trying to juxtapose the statement made by Delany post-hiroshima, i mean national championship game, with the fact that the Fulmer Cup appears to be his to lose.

by Kecalf Bailey on Apr 24, 2007 9:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Furthermore, Craig “fricking 14-0 national champion circa 2002” Krenzel is now, according to wikipedia, a “radio commentator for the Ohio State Buckeyes football team.” Stabler does that weekly and he’s been drunk for going on 30 years now.

So after all of those 600 level classes, he has a job equal to or worse than Chris Rix.

Hell, if he’s lucky maybe good ole’ Kirk will let him be his protege.

by Kecalf Bailey on Apr 24, 2007 9:37 AM EDT reply actions  

#6,

Since nobody else has answered, here goes: There should be a direct correlation between the Fulmer Cup and performance on the field. To play football at a high level you need to be borderline (or well past the borderline) sociopathic.

For the most part, desk jockeys do not fare well as LBs, and vice versa.

by Brewster Crew on Apr 24, 2007 10:03 AM EDT reply actions  

why is this named “Fulmer” Cup?

by Dave P on Apr 24, 2007 1:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Les “The Hat” Miles>>>>>>>>Herban Meyer as far as player discipline.

by FightinTigersDammit on Apr 24, 2007 2:46 PM EDT reply actions  

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