DAVID IRONS: FORE! ER, FOUR!

What’s the guy from Weber State’s excuse?

Oh, sure… pick on the guy with the learning disability. Now let’s go amish punching! (Just keep an eye out for Harrison Ford.)

Should Bama fans use this opportunity to say DeMeco Ryans could kick your ass on the field and in the classroom?

Nah. Getting your ass handed to you for five years cuts down on the smack-talking.

Not so much the simmering, white-hot rage. That’s totally still there.

Sorry, could you say their scores again, I was out back polishing the trophies.

I had to see for myself. The last sentence says it all.

http://auburntigers.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/irons_david00.html

It is actually Bo Smith, not Reed.

On a sidenote, have their ever been a footballer by the name of “Tank” that didn’t have “character issues”

A freakin FOUR!!! 2/3 of the questions are multiple choice questions with 3 – 5 answers.

A chimp with a crayon could score a 6.

Mike P. :
While the “Majoring in sociology” is quite a telling phase. I think the “Finished with a team-leadin 11 tackles” in the 2005 part of the bio that really tells the story. When the guy they have writing the bio can’t even spell, how do you expect the Juco transfer football player to do? There are more little nuggets in there too. It’s like “Where’s Waldo”.

I meant phrase, not phase. If I am going to get onto other’s about spelling, I might want to proof-read my posts.

Come on, its obviously by design. We all know what a jokester Irons is, he wanted to get a 4 cause that’s his jersey number. sometimes you just got to rep it baby

Junior Rosegreen got a 4 last year (year before?) as well.

Their brain was fried because Auburn is such a better/tougher school than Alabama (as one of my friends tried to tell me this weekend).

Okay, that’s pretty bad and the Sociology major thing doesn’t help. In David’s defense, he has a pretty severe learning disability that makes it difficult for him to read quickly. In college and on the SAT, people with LDs get extra time, get to have the questions read aloud to them, etc. I’m sure that he was not afforded these same advantages on the Wonderlic. Having said that, I do not understand how any living person could score that low.

Auburn has always been known as a fine academic institution. I’m glad to see they are still churning out illiterate fools that will never be anything but a football player.

Wore Eagill!

We had no idea he was actually LD-diagnosed.

Um…yeah, we’re nice like that.

Ahh the SPUAT love in this thread is amazing. Making fun of a kid with LD, that’s even a new low for you all.

War Eagle

“Okay, that’s pretty bad and the Sociology major thing doesn’t help. In David’s defense, he has a pretty severe learning disability that makes it difficult for him to read quickly.”

I’ll say. The disabilaty is called “retardation”.

“In college and on the SAT, people with LDs get extra time, get to have the questions read aloud to them, etc. "

At Auburn, they also get dummy courses administered by football friendly professors and “tutors” to handle messy little tasks like signing your name.

Wes,

We’re not making fun of Irons. We’re making fun of Auburn and excuse making, asshole fans like you.

Thats great…so much for the “high graduation rate” for auburn players. Obvioulsy they are not attending class. The barner who tried to say the rigorous class schedule fried his brain apparently never went to class either…..cause last i checked class is supposed to make you smarter……Now i see that his interviews were absolutley serious….maybe he can take a trip to “Paris or Europe” and “eat his candy”….maybe that will make him smarter. As for his LD, what does that say for auburn’s admissions ratings letting someone that is that much ignorant into the classroom. Hell, maybe they ought to start signing up zoo animals…i hear dolphins and chimpanzee’s are somewhat intelligent.

whats worse, a bama fan poking fun or Auburn university actually letting him in the classroom? I guess your degree fits right on up there next to his? Id be rather embarassed that he has a degree from the same university i did….speaking of a new low…. i think the 4 on the wonderlic is the new low, right behind the 5 by junior rosegreen..

Wow, John you are an angry little man. Did you not get into Auburn or something?

John,
It’s quite obvious who’s an asshole here. Shut your sphincter before something more embarring than your thoughts emerge.

Oh…almost forgot…eat me!

Who was the Running back I had play for me that did not go to class? It wasn’t Bo, he attended ABC’s are cool with me.
Jeff Burger attended every class, he just liked to copy everyones paper….can anyone help a poor old drunk remember?

Learning disabled does not equal ignorant. It just means that you don’t learn as well as some other people do in a traditional classroom setting.

Wasn’t Auburn the school that reported APR scores up there with the likes of Vanderbilt/Stanford, etc?

Don’t forget James Brooks who admitted he could not read at his child custody hearing a couple of years ago. He by the way got a degree from auburn.

there are a lot of heated rivalries in college football but, at least on this particular site, no two teams appear to enjoy spewing vitriol on each other more than auburn and alabama. it’s quite entertaining to watch…

what a pitiful fucking institution… an au degree is basically like a sylvan learning center certificate

Heh. From my (former) ivory tower of “high-falutin’” academia — the Bama/AU debate about superior academics seems akin to arguing over which school is most likely to produce graduates who would accidentally set themself or a loved one on fire. The answer is, of course, both.

Bama fans making fun of Auburn’s academics is like Mark Mangino making fun of Charlie Weiss’ weight.

“Wow, John you are an angry little man. Did you not get into Auburn or something?”

Hardly. I went to a school that is much more academically rigorous than the cowpile.

Orson, shame on ewe. The 4 should’ve had a 5 fingered salute in reference to the current Iron Bowl Streak.

Let’s stay focused on what really matters round these parts.

I mean, how stupid must Shula and Sarah Jessica Parker Wilson Englemeyer Schmidt be in order to not take advantage of Irons on the field? (OK, ignore that Muschamp brain fart at the end of the first half)

Mr Dye, that would be Brent Fullwood.

Scoreboard, Bitches!

This will sound harsh, but people who can’t learn in a traditional classroom setting may not belong in college at all. (Before you flame me, please note the qualifier, “may”.)

Apologies in advance to the easily-offended, but in my experience, “learning disabled” is a PC, catch-all phrase that a few kids (and shamefully, parents) are using as an excuse to dodge hard work. Even more shamefully, a handful of coaches use the tag to cover for athletes who can barely handle middle school material. Personally, I didn’t do well in traditional classroom settings either, but I took my lumps the hard way, and I have the transcript to prove it.

Which brings me to one of my favorite soapboxes: When did the bachelor’s degree become an inalienable right? College has dumbed down to the point that my cousin about to graduate from Sac State has roughly the same education that my public high school dished out 25 years ago as a “general” track. At the same time, the Common Application has made it trivial for kids to apply to a dozen or more schools, which makes it even tougher for the few who truly excel to get into a decent college. I’m sure that I will live to see the day when someone will propose a law that gives everyone over the age of 21 a college degree, because it’s discriminatory to make people learn things, and to force them to apply the knowledge under pressure.

Now if you’ll excuse me, I need to go into the root cellar and find another onion to hang from my belt.

Actually, Junior Rosegreen scored a 2 on the Wonderlic, which USA Today generously described as “one of the lowest scores ever.”

In case you were wondering, Junior graduated from Auburn. In 4 years. War Eagle.

Ding,

You obviously missed the brain transfer he gave Reggie Brown.

Why does the NFL release that info, its embarrassing for guys like that.

“Geico: its so easy even David Irons can do it”

Well, at least this comment thread does prove one thing….Auburn fans truly don’t care about anything else as long as they beat Alabama.

AZ, Reggie….just woke up. Still one of the hardest hits I’ve ever seen. Of course, now I know why Rosegreen hit him so hard and led with the head – he had nothing to lose.

Would there be any chance that Frank Gore is a long lost brother of Algore??? Inquiring minds want to know.

you people don’t know what them academics are like down der at dat barn college. see, we here that knew someone that went to alabama know that we saw some commercial that says alabama is better the harvard.

ummmmm, i don’t remember what we were better then harvard at b/c it was during a commercial but auburn sux.

my idea is that david’s score dropped because of the wonderful uat fan that took the liberty to toss a liquor pint at is head after his int in the last minutes of the iron bowl.

1,969 days, 2 hours, 21 minutes and 35 seconds of losing to auburn can get a sidewalk alum.

Let’s keep it simple, please…I’m an AU grad…….FuckBama

#15,

It’s not quite like making fun of John Mark Stallings, like the AU scum I heard on Finebaum the other day.

1. How do Auburn fans determine their success? By beating Bama and/or how many times they beat Bama.

2. How do Bama fans determine their success? By winning championships.

3. What’s the difference? Auburn isn’t accustomed to winning championships; therefore, they can’t fathom what it means nor what it takes to field a team of that caliber.

Comparison: Last year, the Braves missed the playoffs for the first time in 15 years. So, do you just ignore the 14 straight division titles they won? Well, according to Auburn fans, yes. In that same span, the Mets have won 1 division title (2006). Also, by using the Auburn theory, this makes the Mets the better overall team.

If Auburn ever has a team that is good enough to win a championship, maybe then you can realize what it feels like to be a champion. Then it will be ok for you to piss and moan about all the ones we’ve won.

RIP-

That was a Bear worshiper “posing” to be AU. all respect too the retarded,slow etc…..

However Jesus still cant stand your school or your coach!

We are the suckers for evening caring about the Wonderlic……

“Dear Mr. Irons, you should not be allowed to play professional football due to your low score on our Wonderlic test. However, your 4.2 forty time and 30 reps on the 225lb strength test are the true indicator’s of your aptitude. Welcome to the NFL, Mr. Irons….here’s a couple of million bucks.”

Signed,
Al Davis

even vice evening…

Whohah whats wrong did someone give your ribbing because your shitty lil johnny come lately school isnt even mentioned all the while your embarrassed to admit whom gave you a degree. Thats right your mother gave your professor a bj just to get you thru.

Mosby whats the matter did someone hurt lil moseys feewins sniff sniff

auburnfortworth no satan loves your school because chet produces nice fat checks and dumb cornthumpers all the while you propose false purity

Doug lets keep this simple tell your mom that I left my shoes under her bed last night. The mess should definitely keep the waahhr kneck iagl signs from the childrens eyes.

AUAlum doorlocks,zerox latin signed pep me up’s,and orange stains awate you in your pitiful fate,you waste of mass territory.

I went to school with three queers, when we graduated HS two of them went to Awbun and one went into the Navy. That’s a true story, so help me.

Irunz deddy will kill all of you fo poking fun at his dumb arse. Kenny is so dumb he would show up at a two dollar ho house wit 50 cent.

The Irons brothers graduated from a HS" literally three miles from my house. Let’s just say no one around town will be surprised by that score.

• The school is in one of the best systems in the Southeast. Though it is admittedly a middle of the pack school within that system, they still manage to score above the national average on major tests. However, a veteran science teacher was dismissed for daring to fail a football player from a big booster family a couple years back, so I’d put it on the admin and coaching staff.

#38
I also like the simpler things in life…Fuck Auburn

It’s really the little things…

Rosgreen and Irons combined scored less than your average housecat. Outstanding effort once again Barners !

What kind of CPA has free time in early April???

An efficient, well trained one. You see, I specialize in tax work for Auburn grads – the W-2’s from Jiffy Lube are easy to read.

1. Now that was funny.

On the subject at hand, every school has dim bulb players that would not sniff the inside of a classroom were they not great athletes. That does not necessarily indicate much concerning the typical student. The smoking gun for Auburn seems to be that many of these genius football players walk out with degrees.

Then we get to listen to Tubberville boast about graduation rates and compare Auburn to Vandy, etc.

Run, Forest, Run.

Someone needs to get a copy of the wonderlic and literally have their cat/dog take it. Based on the multiple choice questions they should get a 6 anyway.

Growing up in the Northeast, the only people I ever heard of that went to Auburn couldn’t get in anywhere decent around where they lived.

The worst professor I had got his PhD from Auburn in “Agricultural Economics” I had the dumbest prof teaching the hardest subject – Econometrics. Some kid who went on to Stanford for a Math degree would correct the guy about 3 times a week.

Now See here’s the rub, he got his undergrad at GT (same as me) so at one time or another the guy must have been decently smart. I think Auburn made him dumb. On his CV, I kid you not, it discussed how he managed a gas station with his dad. WTF!?

1. -
   Are you implying that you would rather do the W-2s of Auburn grads than the W-2s of Bama grads or are you implying that since these are easy to read, they are within your reading skill set?

Oh I figured I would throw this into the pot as well:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonderlic_Test

Average scores:
    * Chemist – 31
    * Programmer – 29
    * Newswriter – 26
    * Sales – 24
    * Bank teller – 22
    * Clerical Worker – 21
    * Security Guard – 17
    * Warehouse – 15

Note to Stanford, Vandy, Notre Dame, etc. You will never be great. Guys who score 25-30 on the Wonderlic are scared absolutely shitless of guys who score 5s.

The perfect score for a safety in the nfl. He will do well.

Im gonna move to Alabama and start a wonderlic test prep school. I’ll be a millionaire within 4 seasons.

I’m surprised to see Irons’ Dad not finding a way to talk smack and/or whine about this whole thing.

1. Ben Watson is the obvious exception with a 43 or so (but then he did start out at Duke). Ben gives Chuck Norris and the Orgeron a run for their money in the super-human sweepstakes. Big Ben fears neither man nor beast.

43 Wonderlick, strongest player ever at UGA, ripped 250 lbs., chased down Champ Bailey in a game last year… Yeah, I’ve got a man-crush.

#59: It always brings a smile to my face to read a diatribe about poor education, especially when that diatribe contains misspelled words and incomplete sentences.

Alabama leads ALL universities in academic all americans…AGAIN.

Yea he has a learning disablitly… its called not being abel to read. I mean come on, i hear auburn fans talking about how much better of a school auburn is that Alabma but i really dont see it. I know a person from my high school that got into auburn with a 1.7 gpa and i thought that was bad, but atleast he could read.

How are the “Academic All-Americans” selected? This is a serious question. I have wondered for the past few years how they are calculated and how Bama can get more than Harvard, Yale, etc., every year. Is it one of those things where it comes down to who really turns in more resume-bolstering bullshit with the application or is actually a testament to the academic sufficiency of a school? In other words, is a 4.0 genius who is a member of all the national honor societies and went to Alabama really any different than a 4.0 genius who is a member of all the national honor societies and went to Harvard? Or is there some type of Scholar’s Bowl where they go head-to-head and test their knowledge?

“Sarah Jessica Parker Wilson Englemeyer Schmidt”
— even as a bama fan I find that reference to JPW hilarious.

I hate to ruin a good urban legend, but isn’t it true that Vince Young’s 8 score was because they scored it with the wrong answer key?

Not to pile on the AU too bad but what does it say when your prized veterinary medicine school kills all the eagles on campus and the prized forestry school can’t save a tree at the “red light” in auburn?

David Irons… let’s see….

2006:
Named the A-Day defensive MVP after recording five solo tackles and intercepting a pass.

2005:
Associated Press All-SEC Second-Team … Came out of spring drills as one of the starters at corner … Played in and started 11 games … Led Auburn and third in the SEC with 11 pass deflections … Finished with a team-leadin 11 tackles against Wisconsin in the Capital One Bowl … Also posted a pass deflection against the Badgers … Posted five tackles, including four solo, against Alabama while also deflecting one pass … Led the Tigers with six tackles, five solo, and three pass breakups against Georgia … Had a tackle for loss (-5) against Kentucky … Posted two pass breakups and a tackle for loss (-1) to go along with six tackles, five solo, against Ole Miss … Among the team leaders with five tackles and a pass breakup against LSU … Posted three solo tackles against Arkansas … Had three tackles, including half a tackle for loss (-1), with a pass breakup against South Carolina … Started and recorded four tackles, including three solo, against Western Kentucky … Did not play against Ball State … Finished with one tackle against Mississippi State … Played in his first collegiate game against Georgia Tech, earning a start at cornerback … Posted three solo tackles with two pass breakups against the Yellow Jackets.

Who cares what he got on the Wonderlic? The guy’s good.

“While an average football player usually scores around 20 points, The Wonderlic, Inc claims a score of at least 10 points suggests a person is literate.”

Hello James Brooks, Jr.

I don’t think it would be too hard to take almost any competitive BCS school and point out present and past players who are not the most academically gifted individuals, so I would suggest that people in glass houses not throw stones.

Hook’em Tide, glad to entertain you.

Personally, I believe SJPWES will easily end up being the best Bama QB in the last 25 years.

So, he goes to Auburn and he’s LD. If he’d gone to Tennessee he’d be chemically imbalanced.

#79
The big difference is how many of those players at the other schools actually receive college degrees. They do at the Barn.

The difference, karl, is not everybody is reporting APR scores based on falsified data.

Ummm, what falsified data? They guy has a learning disability for which he receives certain accomodations under the Americans with Disabilities Act. Obviously, no such accomodations are made for the Wonderlic. I suppose a blind person would not score very well on a written test either, but that does not mean they are stupid or incapable of learning under the right conditions.

Is “LD” another word for “Stupid?”

My 4-year-old nephew could score a 4 on the Wonderlic……….and he has Down’s Syndrome.

Can he run a 4.4? If so, send us his highlight tape.

#75-

That’s what they said. But it was pretty fishy, because if it were a simple matter of using the wrong answer key, why not simply grade it with the RIGHT answer key?

Instead, they made Young re-take the test. I don’t recall what his score was the second time around, but it was better.

ATTN BAMA FANS: You dipshits are no longer allowed to comment on anything concerning Auburn until your pathetic football team can beat Auburn in football.

I hate to say it but I’m glad to see him go. I never saw a guy rated so highly before making his first career interception… as a senior…

It’s a shame people caught on to that, he started off the year a first round draft pick. I guess he’ll have to go work for Jimmy Rane selling Yella Wood with other past Auburn and Alabama greats…

Oh and #44, we think of your argument as being like this: Mongolia is better than the US because once upon a time, they had the largest, most powerful empire in history. When in any recent time, neither UAT or Mongolia has been relevant. Ulaan-Baatar is still nicer than than Tuscaloosa though…

Regarding the learning disability, when David was a baby he had an allergic reaction to soy milk that almost killed him and left permanent damage to his brain. Say what you want about his Wonderlic score, or the integrity of Auburn, but this young man has worked his ass off to try and be successful in the classroom and on the field.

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=1144&CID=583126

David is LD and so is his brother, the problem is the test was given in English. How could he expect to do well when neither can speak the language of the test.

ATTN KEVIN:
Fuck you & Fuck auburn

Nix, I’ve heard that story and it is a good one but I think this raises a serious debate beyond Auburn v Alabama. Auburn is not the only school that accepts students to play football that couldn’t get in normally. Hell even Stanford extends acceptances to people who are really just there to play sports. Shouldn’t the requirements for acceptance for athletes be the exact same as acceptance for anyone else? Granted, suddenly the best teams in the nation will be places like the University of West Alabama who admit only those with pulses (unless the stiff made above 18 on the ACT which is automatic alive or dead) but it would end this hypocrisy that we want good STUDENT athletes.

Slightly different but related point raised by Bobby Bowden. “We want you to have good students on your team. We want you to graduate players. We want your players to be upstanding young men. If you lose too much we’ll fire you.” I think he has a point.

Learning Disability: The politically correct term for “Dumber than a turd”.

Irons should put his Auburn Sociology Degree on his windshield…He still couldn’t read, but he’d get the REALLY GOOD parking place when he goes to work at Sbarro in the Mall.

Dewar’s,

PD’sL

“Scoreboard, Bitches!

Comment by AUAlum — April 9, 2007 @ 7:07 pm"

Otherwise known as your mom and sister changing the bulbs at Jerks In Here Stadium…

DewarsEagle! (Hic)

PD’sL

hip?……..hip hop?……..hip hop annoymous?………………DAMN YOU!! YOU GIVE HIM ALL THE EASY ONES

Quote: “He had an allergic reaction to soy milk”.

Translation: "He’s dumber than a fuckin grape, just like his brother and his Dad.

Quote: “This young man has worked his ass off to be successful in the classroom”.

Translation: He’s so slow that even with legions of tutors and directed reading courses we could still barely get this retard pushed through the dummy track.

Quote: “David Irons is a really good kid”.

Translation: He never fucked my daughter.

Ironic that the ‘Bama fan’s answer to this “scandal” would be four fingers aloft. Wasn’t it FIVE Auburn fingers aloft that has left ‘Bama in this state to begin with? Are "y’all" that desperate to find anything to best Auburn that you’ll dig up a Wonderlic score to cling to and reaffirm your snobbery? Let us forget the classiness and intelligence of Albert Means, or does he not count since the NCAA never let him enroll to begin with? Please. If you’re going to rub “on-the-field” success (uh, during Bear..) in the face of Auburn fans, then at least man-up and acknowledge Auburn’s lately, and not explain it away because of “dumb players.” It’s not like Alabama is an academic powerhouse anyhow (hate to break it to you, but outside lib-arts, Auburn is a better school.) And if anyone includes a post that mentions “Two-thousand-Saban!” they desrve to die in an automobile accident. Sorry.

I hate to post twice in a row, especially to rebuke an old post, but this just killed me:

“Whohah whats wrong did someone give your ribbing because your shitty lil johnny come lately school isnt even mentioned all the while your embarrassed to admit whom gave you a degree. Thats right your mother gave your professor a bj just to get you thru.”
—Courtesy “Swearo”

I don’t have the time or space to comment on all of the misspellings and grammatical mistakes, though there’s a multitude (Bammers—take my word for it I guess.) Allow me to say this however: let us please make the distinction between Bama/Auburn FANS and Bama/Auburn GRADUATES. As someone who (went to high school in T-town and) worked their ass off for a (top-10 nationally, Ivy-League-equivalent) Architecture degree at Auburn, will people who are barely literate please stop representing our respective institutions? Call me an elitist snob (and I am one, self-acknowledged), but living in this state alone does not give you the right to demean the insitutions you “represent” or disrespect. Especially if you’re going to make fun of an athlete’s intelligence but have little proficiency in the English language yourselves.

#99

LMFAO – he didn’t even get the “whom” right. Posting that shit on a thread poking fun at someone’s intelligence is simply classic.

Hey dumb fucks, GOOGLE spell check is fucking free – use it!

I’d venture that everyone scoring under 20 on the Wonderlic has a “learning disability” inasmuch as these players were allowed to disable their brains and coast through skool.

One of my sons is 5 years old. I worry about the future for him. Will world peace ever happen? Will he live in a safe healthy environment? Will AUBURN EVER LOSE TO ALABAMA IN HIS LIFETIME???
I think the answer may be no to all of these questions.