EDSBS RADIO STUDY GUIDE: ARE YOU A FIRST ROUND BUST?
Short attention span theatre, the radio version, returns tonight with EDSBS Live!, the show so exciting it requires unnecessary! punctuation! just to capture its excitement! Our guest tonight will be Michael David Smith of Football Outsiders, who will discuss the upcoming NFL Draft. We’re talking about the draft because no one, repeat, no one is more knowledgeable than you when it comes to draft predictions, and NFL executives can listen to tonight’s broadcast and save millions of misspent signing bonuses actually listening to people who watched these people play for four years.
What: EDSBS Radio
When: 8:00 p.m.–9:00 p.m. EST
Where: On the EDSBS channel at Now Live.
How: To call in? (310) 984-7600. You may also register at Now Live and participate in the live chat, where we’ll be taking comments and working them into the broadcast. Even if they make fun of our heavy breathing into the mike and audible belching.
Why: To put your “Adrian Peterson is the next Curtis Enis” boast on the record for posterity, sucka.
Who: Peter Bean of Burnt Orange Nation and Orson from this website, along with special guest Michael David Smith of Football Outsiders.
To prepare ahead of time, your study list appears below. The four questions for this week:
1. Who’s your favorite, non-obvious pick in the draft this year who you actually watched play?
2. Who’s your RADIOACTIVE BIOHAZARD DO NOT TOUCH AAAIIIIGGGHHH pick to avoid in this draft? We troy smith have no troy smith definite opinions on this. troy smith
3. Who’s your favorite college stud who failed to find success in the pros? Again, we have no leanings here.
Cough cough WUERFFEL cough cough
4. In the big draft board of life, where were you? Are you a first round bust right now? An unsigned camp invitee turned all-pro? An Arena League legend doing well in your niche? We want to know.
Orson’s totally sure he knows what he is, but you’ll have to listen tonight to find out.
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Jamie says:
Do you guys post these shows on the podcast?
March 20th, 2007 at 4:27 pm
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Orson Swindle says:
Not yet–but that’s coming via the geeks.
March 20th, 2007 at 4:29 pm
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rusty says:
1. Branch at U of M. That guy scared the shit out of me.
2. JaMarcus Russell.
3. Ray Zellars
4. Live or die with combine day.
March 20th, 2007 at 4:39 pm
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Geaux Irish says:
1) Victor Abiamiri. Double-teamed all season because he had little other help on ND’s defense. Put him on the Bears or Ravens and watch him win a lot of one-on-one matchups.
2) Ditto: Troy Smith. Highest achievement will be that he is the second coming of David Carr.
3) Raghib “Rocket” Ismail during the NFL years. CFL doesn’t count unless you’re Warren Moon.
4) Undrafted free agent due to poor combine “measurables” outside of speed and agility. However, I become an overachiever in training camp to make the two-deep.
March 20th, 2007 at 4:53 pm
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rusty says:
Dammit, Geaux! I should have thought of your number one.
March 20th, 2007 at 4:55 pm
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Geaux Irish says:
Rusty, it’s a shame Corwin Brown wasn’t around in time to develop some other guys around VA.
March 20th, 2007 at 5:00 pm
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Beatuofa says:
[threadjack]
Hilarious picture of Spurrier over on Thebiglead.com, figured you folks would get a kick if you haven’t seen it yet: http://thebiglead.com/?p=1979
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March 20th, 2007 at 5:09 pm
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winstongator says:
1. Marcus Thomas – anyone remember Warren Sapp slipping from a top-3 pick? – or Buster Davis. Obvious picks of Moss & Nelson.
2. Crocodile armed TE from UGA – Martrez Milner.
3. Doering – proved Woody Harrelson wrong, walking on to be the #1 TD WR in UF history.
4. Middling 1st round pick, hoping for a midcareer boost.
March 20th, 2007 at 5:12 pm
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matt says:
that Redskins jersey and especially the helmet make Wuerffel look like he’s suiting up for pappy Bowden in Tallahasee
March 20th, 2007 at 5:18 pm
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Will says:
1. Who’s your favorite, non-obvious pick in the draft this year who you actually watched play?
Chris Houston should go in the top half of the first round, not in the 2nd or even late 1st. If he goes to a team that plays Cover 2, he’ll be wasted, but if the team blitzes a lot, and leaves him in man, he will be a Ty Law/young Fred Smoot type corner.
2. Who’s your RADIOACTIVE BIOHAZARD DO NOT TOUCH AAAIIIIGGGHHH pick to avoid in this draft?
Rick Quinn. Brady Meier. Oh hell. You know who I mean
3. Who’s your favorite college stud who failed to find success in the pros? Again, we have no leanings here.
Probably Madre Hill. Fantastic back– scored 6 TDs in a game against South Carolina in 95. Promptly had his knee explode all over the field in the SECCG.
4. In the big draft board of life, where were you?
I’m a 2nd day pick, who’s worked hard on special teams, and is getting an occasional chance to see the field in the nickel package.
March 20th, 2007 at 5:42 pm
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Sam says:
1. Joe Newton, Oregon State TE. Big as a damn house and roughly as fast, but manages to catch a ton of balls and just kill most LBs.
2. Ted Ginn. Can anybody point to any substantial differences between Ginn and R. Jay Soward? I look forward to Ginn’s run to the CFL MVP in 2010.
3. Dan McGwire. I got a soft spot for 6′8″ QBs.
4. A lot of early hype in school that totally dissipated by draft day, but managed to carve out a decent niche in the big leagues. Somewhere between Billy Joe Hobert and Ahman Green.
March 20th, 2007 at 5:44 pm
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Erik says:
1. I second Joe Newton. The guy is crap-your-pants terrifying. I could pretty easily give the nod to Zach Miller of Arizona State, though. Another terrifyingly good Pac-10 TE. Worth at least three wins last season.
2. I gotta go with my boy Troy. Just not that good. A lot better than me, but just a guy.
3. Ryan Leaf. I liked the guy in college. It’s a shame he flipped the hell out.
4. I hate the color blue. Can I be, like, a green chip? I like green.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:42 pm
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Kecalf Bailey says:
1.Marquies Gunn
2.Marshawn Lynch
3.Saleem Rasheed
4.I’v got all the measurables, just not enough drive. Early second day.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:51 pm
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HotlantaBill says:
I love you guys but the pic of Danny in anything remotely resembling FSU duds (I know it’s Wash) is downright communism.
March 20th, 2007 at 7:27 pm
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Jim Harbaugh Scramble says:
1. Can’t Miss not obvious star:
Robert Meachum from TN, i think this guy is a burner and has the right size, strength, hands and everything else to be a stud receiver.
2. Toxic Waste pick:
The OSU boys, but in particular Ted “Tackled in the end zone by my own teammate” Ginn and Troy “I make it a point to own Michigan then blow dog balls against Florida, enraging every UM fan who wonders why in the hell couldn’t you have sucked against UM just one out of three years” Smith.
3. Never live up to NCAA potential
Gotta be david terrell. Amazing at UM fast, big, could catch anything. Drew Henson too, he seemed like a protoype QB but those damn yankees thing ruined what should have been a great senior season at UM and a great pro career.
4 Working my way to being the number one pick.
March 20th, 2007 at 8:56 pm
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Kanu says:
So I called in, and no one answered for a minute, then another dude came on, whom I assumed was the call screener dude. Funny thing was, it turned out to be RCR, and he thought I was the call screener dude. Then finally the call screener dude came on & took our info after mondo confusion. RCR- if I had known that we wouldn’t be getting on, I should have just hung out and chatted with you for a while.
OS/PB – y’all need 2 hours for realz.
Anyhow…
1. Jason Hill, WR, Wazzu. Seen him play a bunch, and I think that he will be a solid pro. As much hype as Jarrett got {and deservedly so} for breaking the PAC10 receiving TD record(what did he end up with 38?} in only 3 years, Hill finished with 32 himself and stands in 2nd place all time – and although a Senior he did it in just 3 seasons as well since he didn’t play in his Freshman year. Back to back 1000 yard seasons as a SO & JR, then 600 in an injury shortened SR year. From watching the dude I think he will succeed in the NFL – big strong body, good route runner, very good hands, tendency to make big plays. Never struck me as having real breakaway speed a la Ginn, but apparently he ran 4.32 at the combine, 2nd fastest of the WRs who ran. I wouldn’t expect him to be a superstar #1 receiver, but I could totally see him becoming a really solid #2 guy.
2. JaMarcus Russell, LSU. The quintessential dude that NFL people who don’t really watch a lot of CFB games but rather see highlight shows get a huge boner over based on his highlights and whatnot. The trick is that people who watch LSU alot see that he can also be a complete disaster waiting to happen, and for every 2 great plays he makes, he also has an extreme fuckup. Lastly, he is more immobile in reality than he might appear to the untrained eye, and like a 1982 Mercedes diesel sedan {0 to 60 in 5 minutes}, he takes a long time to get up to speed. Also prone to very bad decisions. My money is on complete bust.
3. {to the tune of Davey Crockett}:
“Bil-ly, Bil-ly Bennett,
King Of The Long Field Goal”
Dude was an absolute legend while at UGA in our fan circle, and we idolized him with a cultist fervor.
4. Uncle Rico.
“So… how we still feeling good about this 32 piece set?”
Actually – solid but not really noteworthy, attention grabbing, or well known dude who gets drafted in the relative obscurity of the middle rounds and grinds out a journeyman career as a solid but not really noteworthy, attention grabbing, or well known dude.
March 20th, 2007 at 9:00 pm
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TX_FL says:
Just for kicks:
3) Ricky Williams
4) AFL – I feel lucky to get out of college after being socially promoted through kindergarten and 1st grade. I’m still hoping for the Kurt Warner treatment (who, after a quick wiki search, is still in the league… I’m really out of touch with the NFL)
March 20th, 2007 at 9:59 pm
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Sir Ginho of the 216 says:
1. Troy Smith- I’ve watched him play since high school. He’s had three terrible games in his life. One just happened to be in the National Title Game. He’ll bounce back and be a very successful NFL quarterback. (Donte Whitner was my pick last year, so I’m not an idiot)
2. Brady Quinn- Overrated and terrible. I’ve never been impressed with him and I’ve watched him from Day 1 at Notre Dame. Garbage.
3. William Green- I love him at Boston College and wanted him to succeed with the Cleveland Browns. It wasn’t to be.
4. I’m a 4 star prospect overlooked by the HS All-American game. I’m pissed and ready to destroy all standing in my way.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:40 am
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J.J. says:
3. Troy Davis – this unbelievably great back got his Heisemens stolen by some asshole quarterback.
4. Onterrio Smith – self-proclaimed S.O.D. entering the league. did ok in first couple years. caught with the Original Whizzinator passing through airport security and blackballed from the league. Now that’s a true Minnesota Viking! (go Bears)
March 21st, 2007 at 6:41 am
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irishdevil says:
1-2. Pass. I was in Europe this past season, and excepting the video replays of ND’s home games, did not see a single snap of college football this fall. Yes, that sucked donkey balls. (And ESPN GamePlan for the internet sucked–how are you going to black a game out in Europe? Am I really part of the game’s ticket base?)
3. Eric Zeier. And it’s not even close.
4. Mid-to-late first round pick with all the talent to be a perennial Pro-Bowler, but teams shy away due to perceived lack of work ethic. (Rightly so.)
March 21st, 2007 at 7:03 am
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Because They Can says:
1. Martrez Milner- just because he’ll torture me by never again dropping a pass and finally living up to his enormous potential.
2. Any of the above mentioned QBs: T. Smith, J. Russell, B. Quinn.
3. Bill Goldberg- Not that much of a stud, but a nasty, hard-nosed DT in college. Still a bad dude, though.
4. H.S. AA that underachieved in college, but was still drafted based on impressive measurables. Early on looked like a complete bust, but turned it around to be a solid veteran contributor, including a couple of pro bowl seasons.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:52 am
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Nick says:
Was I mistaken Orson or did I hear TCOAN laughing in the background last night?
March 21st, 2007 at 8:31 am
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Will says:
Irish Devil:
I live in Dublin. ESPN Gameplan works fine. I watched at least 5 games a week on my computer, and archived game footage when I had more than a day without football. That MEAC is some compelling shit.
I highly recommend it for those of us living in the Godless lands without college football, even if it means selling a little bit of our souls to that Evil Empire in Bristol.
March 21st, 2007 at 8:50 am
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Orson Swindle says:
Nick–we don’t think so. She wasn’t in the bunker at broadcast time.
March 21st, 2007 at 8:57 am
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irishdevil says:
Thanks Will. I only tried Gameplan once due to the fact that I don’t have the Internet at home. Probably should have tried again. But since ESPN screwed it up the first time and I felt dirty giving them money in to begin with, I did not. Sounds like a mistake, in hindsight.
Can’t wait for the ND-Navy game in Dublin in 2012. Much less ND-GT on September 1.
March 21st, 2007 at 10:09 am
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sb says:
4. Solid second-day, mid-round prospect, showed flashes of brilliance in college but took plays off for no ascertainable reason. Bounced around the league on and off practice squads for four years and had a sudden dramatic turnaround which resulted in last three years pro-bowl shoulda, but didn’t. Now holds a key starting position in a successful secondary. Thought of as a future coach after playing days are over…who’da thought?
March 21st, 2007 at 10:25 am
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Brian says:
1. That kid from Duke, cornerback I think.
2. Reggie Ball. Combine invitee what?
3. Would have liked to See PJ Daniels succeed in Baltimore, but I know its not to be.
4. 3rd Rounder, but will prove to be an overlooked player who later becomes a hall of famer in first round balloting.
March 21st, 2007 at 11:12 am
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Brian says:
Joe Hamilton would be an alternate #3
March 21st, 2007 at 11:14 am
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Will says:
Irishdevil: If you want to avoid the hyper-expense of Gameplan, and get CFB here in Ireland, without the computer hassle, I do also recommend subscribing to ESPN-owned NASN (available through Sky and NTL), for about 10 euro a month; you’ll get gameday, and a smattering of the main ESPN games, too, though it lacks the flexibility of GamePlan
March 21st, 2007 at 1:23 pm
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MCab says:
1. USM’s Jasper Faulk, leadership, athleticism, and experience.
2. I wouldn’t touch Kevin Kolb with a 39.5′ pole. He and the rest of the Koogs are the epitome of dysfunction.
3. Rohan Davey.
4. Go watch Invincible. I’ve applied to med school for 8 years, took dead end jobs in the meantime, got kicked in the teeth and walked on, but I finally gotz mine. On a side note, I love me some special teams.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:06 pm
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michael says:
1. Who’s your favorite, non-obvious pick in the draft this year who you actually watched play?
Alex Reyes. Most punters would take 3 steps to punt the ball in the time Reyes took 2 steps. High booming punts though.
2. Who’s your RADIOACTIVE BIOHAZARD DO NOT TOUCH AAAIIIIGGGHHH pick to avoid in this draft?
Brady Quinn, son of Ron Pawlus and uncle of Rick Mieir.
3. Who’s your favorite college stud who failed to find success in the pros? Again, we have no leanings here.
Ron “Great” Dayne. Without those crappy MAC defenses and Northwestern to run through, Dayne looked like the lazy lard butt that he is with the Giants, the Broncos, the Texas, the…
4. In the big draft board of life, where were you?
Jarrett Peyton is our role model. After playing soccer for so many years and looking good throughout, we inexpectably switched to football. Once, we thought a junk NFL team would put us on the taxi squad. Now, we hope a nice NFL Europe team will give us a rookie free agent contract.
March 25th, 2007 at 9:12 am