COMING OR GOING: SOUTH/EASTISH
And now, blogAmerica’s fourth favorite minigame within a larger game show…

Brian has part one up at MGoBlog, where we discovered that the 6995 listed in the logo equals the approximate number of signed letters of intent collected by Oregon State over the past five years. That’s the entire point of the exercise, really: to find out which schools are tossing out the most promises they can’t keep, or via a less cynical line of thinking, taking the most chances on recruits with a high probability of spraining their cerebrums and not qualifying for their scholarship.
Notes:
All numbers come from Rivals.com. Scout’s numbers differ by degrees and are a bit lower, so in an effort to be comprehensive, we went with Rivals’ numbers.
Transfers and JUCOs are not included. Doesn’t show up in Rivals, but the omission has a minimizing effect on total skeeziness/risk-friendliness perception of school, anyway.
The Indonesian Ferryman Award is given to the school that, like a speed-addled Indonesian ferry captain who hasn’t slept for three weeks and is on deadline, will take on too many passengers and then begin pushing the extras overboard when others clamor for seats.
The Mr. Chips Award for Academic Integrity is given to the goody-goody schools offering no more than their allotment adding up to 85, or even more prissily offering fewer than their allotment just to earn extra brownie points with Dean Wormer.
We’ve got the ACC, Big East, and lastly the SEC, ridin’ dirty and doing so shamelessly. (We think there’s reasons for this not including the facile “So Everyone Cheats” argument, but will hold ’till later. Though there’s certainly a bit of that going on, though not where you would suspect. (Cough cough Tennessee cough.)
First, the ACC:
| ACC | 2002 | 2003 | 2004 | 2005 | 2006 | 2007 | Average |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| North Carolina |
23 | 26 | 25 | 25 | 28 | 23 | 25.0 |
| Florida State |
22 | 20 | 27 | 23 | 31 | 19 | 23.7 |
| Virginia | 26 | 22 | 19 | 24 | 23 | 24 | 23.0 |
| Clemson | 26 | 17 | 27 | 25 | 20 | 23 | 23.0 |
| NC State |
24 | 28 | 18 | 22 | 20 | 24 | 22.7 |
| Maryland | 22 | 21 | 22 | 24 | 22 | 25 | 22.7 |
| Virginia Tech |
20 | 23 | 20 | 25 | 22 | 25 | 22.5 |
| Miami | 24 | 24 | 28 | 17 | 22 | 18 | 22.2 |
| Duke | 22 | 14 | 24 | 23 | 26 | 21 | 21.7 |
| Wake | 20 | 23 | 18 | 19 | 15 | 20 | 19.2 |
| Georgia Tech |
15 | 21 | 24 | 19 | 16 | 20 | 19.2 |
| Boston College |
17 | 24 | 20 | 16 | 20 | 18 | 19.2 |
| Total Average | 22.0 | ||||||
To our surprise, the ACC boasted the lowest number of scholarships offered of any of the major conferences, thus earning the All-Conference Mr. Chips Award for Academic Integrity by holding at a six-year average of twenty-two scholarships offered a year.
The Indonesian Ferryman Award for the ACC goes to North Carolina, who offered 25 schollies a year, proving that John Bunting was inequivocal in his demand to have players who were slow on the field and off of it.
The Mr Chips Award for the ACC goes in a three-way-tie to Georgia Tech, Boston College, and Wake Forest. A round of scientific graphing calculators for everyone, it seems.
The Big East
| Big East |
2002 | 2003 | 2004 | 2005 | 2006 | 2007 | Average |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| West Virginia |
34 | 24 | 24 | 32 | 16 | 26 | 26.0 |
| South Florida |
20 | 29 | 25 | 21 | 28 | 27 | 25.0 |
| Syracuse | 24 | 23 | 32 | 19 | 24 | 27 | 24.8 |
| Louisville | 23 | 31 | 24 | 28 | 25 | 17 | 24.7 |
| Pitt | 23 | 26 | 25 | 23 | 27 | 24 | 24.7 |
| Rutgers | 24 | 25 | 23 | 25 | 26 | 22 | 24.2 |
| Connecticut | 14 | 20 | 28 | 25 | 22 | 29 | 23.0 |
| Cincinnati | 23 | 24 | 18 | 25 | 19 | 23 | 22.0 |
| Total Average | 24.3 | ||||||
Our Indonesian Ferryman/Big East goes to…

…who should just go ahead and assume there’s a standing invite to the SEC if and when Vanderbilt decides to give up football and focus on the real sport at Vandy: professional slumming. (Hey! I’m a truck guy despite the trust fund! I’m Ford Tough, with an Ethan Allen edge!)
The Mr. Chips Award/Big East goes to Cincinnati, who rations out scholarships presumably because there are only so many former female soccer players to go around for new recruits.
And finally, the SEC.
Cue soundtrack before reading:
| SEC | 2002 | 2003 | 2004 | 2005 | 2006 | 2007 | Average |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Miss State |
30 | 28 | 23 | 29 | 24 | 34 | 28.0 |
| South Carolina |
27 | 28 | 29 | 28 | 24 | 31 | 27.8 |
| Auburn | 31 | 27 | 29 | 22 | 25 | 30 | 27.3 |
| Arkansas | 23 | 25 | 32 | 24 | 26 | 27 | 26.2 |
| Tennessee | 25 | 22 | 24 | 26 | 22 | 32 | 25.2 |
| Kentucky | 15 | 22 | 28 | 26 | 30 | 28 | 24.8 |
| Alabama | 19 | 19 | 29 | 32 | 23 | 24 | 24.3 |
| LSU | 26 | 28 | 26 | 13 | 26 | 26 | 24.2 |
| Georgia | 31 | 25 | 20 | 17 | 28 | 23 | 24.0 |
| Ole Miss |
18 | 21 | 25 | 28 | 30 | 22 | 24.0 |
| Florida | 23 | 26 | 23 | 18 | 27 | 27 | 24.0 |
| Vanderbilt | 20 | 22 | 20 | 25 | 25 | 14 | 21.0 |
| Total Average | 25.1 | ||||||
The SEC first wins The Indonesian Ferryman All-Conference Award, since an average of 25 scholarships offered a year makes Bob Barker say:

That’s too much!
The in-conference Indonesian Ferryman Award goes to Mississippi State, who despite sanctions from the Jackie Sherrill era manages to hand out 28 Letters of Intent a year. They would also like to promise you a brand new pony. South Carolina’s right on their heels, mind you, which you would expect from a team under supervision by Lou Holtz.
The Mr. Chips Award goes predictably to Vanderbilt. Even with an average of 21, however, you’ll find that they’re well above the ACC average in their offers.
We’ll tip our hand and suggest that a lot of this discrepancy has to do with academic non-qualifiers and the pisspoor, god-awful public schools of the South. Combine that with some arch program design by some SEC coaches, and you’ve got the divergent strategies between conferences. In short: the worse the pool of academic recruits you’re dealing with, the more chances you must take by necessity.
Blue-chippers escape this, since nearly everyone’s willing to take a chance on them. (Thus the same schools competing for the same recruits every year, who inevitably list USC, Michigan, Florida, Miami, and Ohio State in their top five, or some permutation of the top ten.) But recruiting remains a largely local game, and for the four and three star recruits making up rosters who decide locally between schools close to home in the South, the academics are always going to be a challenge given where they’re coming from: namely, the worst, most underfunded shithole public schools on the face of the planet.
Randy Newman had it right all along, we suspect:
We got no-necked oilmen from Texas
And good ol’ boys from Tennessee
And college men from LSU
Went in dumb. Come out dumb too
Betting on failure in the SEC academically may not just make sense for football players–it may apply to National Merit Scholars and the student body as a whole, too. More on this on Monday, but a warning: it’ll get policy wonky fast in here, like Savage Inequalities meets The Blind Side.

We’re rednecks. We don’t know our ass from a hole in the ground.









1
Jonathan says:
WOO, SEC wins again, is there nothing related to sports that we don’t dominate!
February 23rd, 2007 at 12:38 pm
2
Ltrain says:
I win! I win!
-you didn’t win, Ralph. You’re failing English.
Me fail English? That’s Un-possible!
February 23rd, 2007 at 12:51 pm
3
CHARLIE MURPHEY says:
THAT HOWW WE ROLLL…….tide
February 23rd, 2007 at 12:56 pm
4
Senator Blutarsky says:
Georgia Tech’s Mr. Chips’ award should have an asterisk beside it, since some of its low average results from scholarship reductions due to being placed on NCAA probation.
You’re spot on about public schooling in the South, by the way. What a frickin’ joke for the most part…
February 23rd, 2007 at 1:03 pm
5
A5ehren says:
Re: National Merit
A lot of the SEC schools offer extremely generous packages for NM students – the best one is probably UF’s, who offers a full tuition scholarship + housing + straight-up cash ($2000/year if I remember correctly).
Despite that, I’m now paying $16K/year at Georgia Tech since none of the schools that offered me a shit-ton of money (Oklahoma has a similar package to UF) have good EE programs. :-p
February 23rd, 2007 at 1:06 pm
6
AUAlum says:
Sorry WFV; when Vanderbilt leaves, we’re adding the Purple Ribbon All-Stars.
February 23rd, 2007 at 1:07 pm
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maskedavenger says:
“like Savage Inequalities meets The Blind Side.” There has got to be an extremely small set of human beings who have read both.
February 23rd, 2007 at 1:20 pm
8
matt says:
i don’t want that balding mexican in our conference
February 23rd, 2007 at 1:31 pm
9
Dinknflicka says:
If Randy Newman had it right that would mean the only reason southern schools ink more kids to LOIs is because most of the signable kids up north are locked up in jail. Redneck or not, we’re all keeping the lawya’s down.
February 23rd, 2007 at 1:32 pm
10
Wooderson says:
The difference between the similar comparisons on these two sites is painful. The writing that orson does is just so much funnier, it’s not even in the same ballpark. And I say this even as I see hell freezing over (a michigan blogger complimenting ND’s retention). Keep up the good work Orson.
February 23rd, 2007 at 1:35 pm
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Chg says:
From what I remember, Ole Miss has a package comparable to Florida’s, with the added benefit that dollars stretch almost as much in Mississippi as they do in the rest of the Third World.
The downside is you have to live in Mississippi.
February 23rd, 2007 at 1:38 pm
12
tzubear says:
I dont suppose you could post, or point me to, the pac-10 numbers.
February 23rd, 2007 at 1:43 pm
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tzubear says:
nevermind, I found it.
February 23rd, 2007 at 1:45 pm
14
Erik says:
I’m trying to wrap my head around how Vanderbilt’s 21 is higher than the ACC’s average 22.
February 23rd, 2007 at 1:48 pm
15
irishdevil says:
That’s SEC math, Erik.
February 23rd, 2007 at 1:53 pm
16
The Colossus says:
What about Notre Dame? I’m thinking they’re pretty close to Dean Wormer national champs.
More a testament to Ty Willingham’s golf schedule than Charlie’s efforts at this point, but I’m guessing the trendline is moving the other way now.
February 23rd, 2007 at 1:56 pm
17
Steve says:
A5ehren:
Is it any surprise that our alma mater hands out next to no athletic scholarships? I mean really, who would want to play under a coach that thought letting Reggie Ball be a four year starter was a good idea?
February 23rd, 2007 at 2:07 pm
18
HFS says:
Another factor here is “encouraged attrition”. I suspect that may happen more in the SEC than in other places. If you’re a junior and ain’t on the 2-deep, you might want to explore other options.
February 23rd, 2007 at 2:07 pm
19
Mike says:
Just playing devil’s advocate but…
I don’t know how much water a study like this really holds…with the exeption of the high academic schools like Duke, Vandy, GT, Wake, etc…you’re only talking about an average of 4 scholarship disparity between top & bottom over a 6 year period. Plus, you don’t factor schools like Bama, Kentucky and others who have been on probation during this time. Wouldn’t other factors such as number of seniors, coaching changes, grayshirts, redshirts, career injuries, etc all have a huge factor in these numbers as well?
Given all the variables that could affect how many scholarships are offered, a 4 scholarship difference from top to bottom (with exception to higher academic schools like I mentioned) isn’t that big of a deal in my opinion.
I will say nice researched and detailed comparison ….interesting observations Orson! Just fun to continue to debate college football! RTR!
February 23rd, 2007 at 2:15 pm
20
Brian @ MGoBlog says:
The difference between the similar comparisons on these two sites is painful. The writing that orson does is just so much funnier, it’s not even in the same ballpark.
…and in other news, I am less attractive than Brad Pitt.
February 23rd, 2007 at 2:20 pm
21
Newspaper Hack says:
I just took a look at my degrees. High school diploma, State of South Carolina. College undergraduate degree, State of South Carolina.
2 + 2 = Moron
February 23rd, 2007 at 2:22 pm
22
Joe from Minnesota says:
#7 maskedavenger–I haven’t read The Blind Side (although I do like Michael Lewis). I have read a couple of books by Jonathan Kozol, including Savage Inequalites back in my college days. An eye-opening read for anyone interested in kids or education of the American public.
-Joe
February 23rd, 2007 at 2:27 pm
23
AlaskaCollegeBall says:
Aye! Webmaster! A Univision Cheesecake shot to cool the glowing-red powertrain components in my brain!
Terrific work. My reaction:
Like all the hotties on Lost, I’d like to see some more up front: Are your numbers strictly LOIs, as signed by high schoolers and trumped by sports info offices?
Here’s the disconnect: LOIs often don’t translate to scholarships, right? Considering JUCOs, transfers and the inevitable ‘walk-on earns a half-scholarship on pure want-to’ stories, how could they be?
I’d guess that many of those missing LOIs arrived as walk-ons, took their shot, failed and ‘disappeared’ no farther than the local SAE house.
Were I an SEC apologist, I would say Miss state, Auburn and the rest of the serial LOI-aggregators are only opening their hearts wide to any starry-eyed youth who believes they have the gumption to play.
And in that spirit I present to you, Covalis Oregon: Love’s Hometown.
February 23rd, 2007 at 2:43 pm
24
Dinknflicka says:
Hack,
Aren’t you also an Alabama fan? Throw that into the equation and you’re off the Binet Scale.
February 23rd, 2007 at 2:43 pm
25
Newspaper Hack says:
Indeed — originally from Birmingham. I’m sure I’m just peaking in my Algernon Curve of Intelligence.
February 23rd, 2007 at 2:55 pm
26
DevilGrad says:
The inestimable NickSkin has put together a similar analysis for the MAC showing a huge range from Miami (19.6 LOIs/year) to Temple (right up in Oregon State territory).
http://www.miamihawktalk.com/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=34195
February 23rd, 2007 at 3:07 pm
27
eosiiiI says:
To Chg:
Regarding your disparaging comment on living in Mississippi.
The quality of life in Oxford is light years ahead of most other places, as has been nationally recognized by various independent media rating the top places in the country to retire. The facts belie your BS.
February 23rd, 2007 at 3:14 pm
28
Geaux Irish says:
#14, re-read Orson’s verbage around Vandy. They might have had 21 *signed LOI’s*, but their total **offers** were greater than the ACC average of offers.
February 23rd, 2007 at 3:32 pm
29
PeterPumpkinhead says:
Hack, don’t feel bad, my diploma and degrees are actually from State of Alabama institutions… and now I’m hustlin’ round Atlanta in my aligator shoes
February 23rd, 2007 at 3:54 pm
30
Erik says:
#27, that’s why I phrased it in that way. I never said it was wrong.
February 23rd, 2007 at 4:48 pm
31
Daniel Adams says:
“The difference between the similar comparisons on these two sites is painful. The writing that orson does is just so much funnier, it’s not even in the same ballpark. And I say this even as I see hell freezing over (a michigan blogger complimenting ND’s retention). Keep up the good work Orson.”
You’re entitled to your opinion, but you can’t judge someone else’s writing based on a single post. Brian’s (MGoBlog) commentary consistently holds its own against anything in this or any CFB blog you care to name. For more, see: http://mgoblog.blogspot.com/2006/11/eleven-swans.html
February 23rd, 2007 at 5:24 pm
32
Orson Swindle says:
Agreed most strongly! He also has this bonus thingy called accuracy the first time he writes something. We’re still working up to that.
February 23rd, 2007 at 5:32 pm
33
RaginCajunRebel says:
Orson, to rebut your comment at #32, I quote an expert on the topic:
“Accuracy is soooo over-rated.”
–Reggie Ball
February 23rd, 2007 at 5:46 pm
34
Daniel Adams says:
“Agreed most strongly! He also has this bonus thingy called accuracy the first time he writes something. We’re still working up to that.”
Any accuracy you lack is more than made up for by the excellent cheesecake. Its a house specialty!
February 23rd, 2007 at 6:14 pm
35
Aaron says:
ACC squeezes past the Big 10 by one tenth of a scholarship.
Is it possible to see a short breakdown of how the mid-major conferences do?
February 23rd, 2007 at 6:20 pm
36
Daniel Adams says:
Then again, I can’t remember you guys lacking any accuracy at all. So really, if Brian is going to stay competitive, he’s gonna have to think about adding some cheesecake.
February 23rd, 2007 at 6:21 pm
37
edward says:
A 4 scholarship difference is huge, that is almost 20% more per season than many schools. That is a full additional class over 5 years.
Can you imagine what your teams class would look like if they had 4 more scholarships to give each season? Just ask the coach if that is a lot, we can guess his answer already.
February 23rd, 2007 at 7:39 pm
38
Meg says:
The fact that I can pretty much remember the UGA transfers of the past few years by name likely means this “attrition” you talk of is not as prevalent at every school. I do think it happens, but more than anything I think what I have seen is that 4 year players who aren’t contributing a lot on the field come game time are encouraged to go ahead and graduate and give up their 5th year of eligibility.
February 23rd, 2007 at 8:27 pm
39
Fesser says:
You should not disrespect Ethan Allen.
1) Singlehandedly captured Fort Ticonderoga.
2) Founded the Republic of the Green Mountains
3) Was a crazy deist.
When the Vandy lads start doing the same, then you can liken them to Ethan.
February 23rd, 2007 at 10:47 pm
40
Travis Swenson says:
It looks like JC’s are included in that number.
Also, Miss. State oversigned by nine, including 4 “sign and place” grade casualties, 4 gray shirts (will go on scholarship next year), and one that counts toward last year’s undersign.
That said, I still don’t see the point of this post.
February 24th, 2007 at 12:08 am
41
a5ehren says:
Steve:
The low number of schollies is probably more due to NCAA probation (Thanks Dave Braine!) than Chan. That said, I really can’t understand why this year’s class was so much better than the others…
The real thing that upsets me at GT is the nearly non-existent scholarships for out of state students.
February 24th, 2007 at 11:14 am
42
A.G. says:
#41,
You’re from OUT-OF-STATE….
Not giving you a scholarship is how fool the State of Ga. into not noticing that half of a GT graduating class doesn’t stay in Georgia….
Actually, the real trick to getting free money at GT is to keep your GPA above 3.5 and make nice with the folks in the Bill Moore Student Center…
There’s plenty of money that’s earmarked for students from GA counties that haven’t had a qualified Tech student in 50 years…
February 24th, 2007 at 2:46 pm
43
Peter Pumpkinhead says:
#39 – I think he meant Ethan Allen Furniture… not the historically significant figure whose name said company stole.
February 25th, 2007 at 5:10 pm
44
Wazzu Coug says:
Here’s one explanation for the Miss State awesomeness:
They let everyone ROCK THE NUMBER TWO!
February 26th, 2007 at 2:01 pm
45
Rivergirl says:
Don’t expect Vanderbilt to exit the SEC anytime soon! As I recall, we lost to Florida by only six points, and didn’t we beat Georgia at their own Homecoming game? Yes, we ask that our players read and write coherent paragraphs, but don’t hold the academics against us. The Commodores are for real, y’all! Word to your mutha.
February 26th, 2007 at 5:57 pm