ILLINI AD RON GUENTHER HAS HIS LETTER OF INTENT: A SUBPOENA.
Pete Thamel and Thayer Evans of the New York Times pen a piece on Illinois’ recruiting successes rehashing much of what everyone else is goggling about in regards to Illini recruiting; namely, open speculation about how a football Hades like Champaign-Urbana has managed to outfight major powers for some of the nation’s top recruits. On first glance, it’s mostly old hat, save the superb John L. “Slappy” Smith quote:
“If they had a winning program and all of that, it would be a different deal. If they had the greatest facilities in the world, then maybe they could sell them. But what are they selling?”
He added: “Where there’s smoke, there’s probably fire.”
SLAP! The new wrinkle in the piece, though, is an odd bit of indirect accusation Ron Guenther makes against a major university competing head-to-head with Illinois in recruiting that’s “not in the Big Ten. According to Guenther, this university leaked accusations about the Illini through “a web site,” accusations Guenther addressed thusly:
“I take this stuff so seriously,” he said. “I have an interest in the coach’s and the program’s reputation. It’s defamation of character, and it’s got to be challenged.”
Illinois’ gone as far as hiring an outside law firm to pursue the source of the rumors and the identities of the “leakers.” Clenching our teeth around our pipe, relaxing with a copy of Four Quartets, and channeling the spirit of James Jesus Angleton as best we can, we triangulate the intelligence leak given what we know:
–Not a Big Ten university
–Competing head-to-head with Illinois.
–Big enough web presence to make a splash via rumors
–Motivated through Illinois winning potential recruits over
This all points to one place only: Notre Dame. Thank you, thank you. Well be in the study, trying to correctly identify the fifth man and enjoying a nice cognac.

***UPDATE*** The Washington Post has their own slice of pie: messages Benn received from former Notre Dame qbs coach Peter Vaas via text and voicemail. They’re not defamatory or surprising, but they’re another peek into the maelstrom of recruiting. A few choice ones:
Once Benn orally committed to Illinois, Notre Dame assistant Peter Vaas continued to pepper Benn with text messages and voice mails, some of which Benn provided to The Post:
“FYI, ILL is telling Robert Hughes that they will build their offense around him? Didn’t they tell you that?
Coach Vaas,” Vaas wrote Benn on Dec. 17.
Earlier that month, Vaas left this voice message on Benn’s phone: “You don’t want to do anything except bury your head in the sand. . . . I guess you’re not tough enough to compete at the big level.”
Vaas, who was let go as quarterbacks coach by the Irish after their 44-14 loss to LSU in the Sugar Bowl, did not deny leaving the messages.









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CouchBurnin'Girl says:
RUTS: In our own defense, we passed on Randy Moss.
Wooderson: Friends?
SKLM: Last Friday, now today??? Do you want to be my valentine?
Moving on: I heard about this Deion Sanders/Noel Devine thing yesterday. Coupled with something about Deion wanting to get back into coaching. No, really.
http://www.wemustignitethiscouch.com/modules/weblog/details.php?blog_id=201
Put whatever stock you want to in this opinion piece. Me, I say none.
February 7th, 2007 at 1:07 pm
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Wooderson says:
Of course CBG. I thougth you took pride in lighting up the lazy-boys there in morgantown, I wasn’t giving you crap.
February 7th, 2007 at 1:48 pm
53
Run Up The Score says:
Wooderson — That would be Centralia, Pennsylvania. Quite a town, if you’re into hazardous gases and crumpled roads. Oh, and old people who just refuse to be relocated because, well, they’re stubborn old people.
Supposedly, Broderick Green’s announcement is delayed because at noon, he needed to go home and change clothes. Hopefully, McKnight’s USC committment scared him away and he’ll be at Penn State next year.
February 7th, 2007 at 1:52 pm
54
Wooderson says:
Is that the place that “Fire Down Below” was based on? Steven Segal direct-to-video flicks rule.
February 7th, 2007 at 1:54 pm
55
Run Up The Score says:
Not sure what it was based on, only that the movie was supposedly set in Kentucky.
February 7th, 2007 at 2:05 pm
56
Run Up The Score says:
…and Broderick Green’s off to USC. Good luck trying to convince Pete Carroll to run a six RB formation, Chachi.
February 7th, 2007 at 2:11 pm
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ESPNBS says:
How exactly can a school be a “football Hades” when their all-time winning percentage is well over .500, they’ve won 4 national titles and 21 conference titles?
We’re talking about a school that’s in prime position to land recruits from two metro areas with coaches who have significant ties to Florida and D.C. Not surprisingly, that’s where their recruits are coming from.
Illinois is more like a “sleeping giant” that hasn’t had a coach who took recruiting seriously since John Mackovic.
February 7th, 2007 at 2:15 pm
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RIP Logan Young says:
SKLM, you are still quite the caker, aren’t you?
February 7th, 2007 at 2:17 pm
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Jeff from LA says:
You know I love you Orson, but Florida’s nasty streak of recruiting has put our 3-time recruiting title in real question this year. I’m going to be really frustrated if Florida takes the MNC (I know we have ourselves to blame for that one) and the recruiting title in the same year.
Oh and tOSU fans, don’t even bother commenting about how you would have beaten us. USC would have LOVED to play you guys.
February 7th, 2007 at 2:31 pm
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Stacy Keibler Loves Me says:
Thanks a lot Dept:
CBGirl: Thank you very much for the nice offer, but , I am already taken by another babe. I really enjoy you beating up on some of the bozos on this site, in such a funny manner. Keep up the great work!
February 7th, 2007 at 2:42 pm
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Stacy Keibler Loves Me says:
SKLM Responds – Comment No. 57 Dept:
RIP Logan: Regarding your negative comments to me, I am assuming that you are either a female that never gets any positive attention, or a Notre Dame fan. Do not be jealous.
I just call it as I see it…if there is great commentary, I give due respect. And, if there is mypia running wild, I will also throw in my sobering thoughts.
On this great signing day, let’s bury the hatchet! (Tomorrow will be another matter.)
February 7th, 2007 at 2:52 pm
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Jeff from LA says:
Oh and by the way, I’m not saying USC would have beat Florida for the MNC, just that we should have been in the MNC game.
After that game, I am convinced of SEC SPEED(TM).
February 7th, 2007 at 2:55 pm
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zzgator says:
Hot off the presses of the ESPN recruiting chat…
Andy (Chicago): Martez, welcome to the Illini. Did any school(s) try to get you to switch at the last minute? If so, what did you tell them?
Martez Wilson: (3:40 PM ET ) Oh yeah. Notre Dame.
February 7th, 2007 at 3:44 pm
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Orson Swindle says:
THOSE BASTARDS!!!
February 7th, 2007 at 3:49 pm
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DC Trojan says:
…and Broderick Green’s off to USC. Good luck trying to convince Pete Carroll to run a six RB formation, Chachi.
He’s obviously got enough brains to not risk them for JoePa’s afternoon snack.
As for next year, it’s not so much going to be Student Body Right as Napoleonic column of running backs up the gut. Which will be fine until UCLA masters rapid fire musketry. Then Pete Carroll will be exiled to Catalina, with only his golden unicycle for solace.
Of course I’m not being serious — UCLA would try to use the library squad’s tazers; it’s Wazzoo that would master the musketry.
February 7th, 2007 at 4:30 pm
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Beergut says:
CBD,
When Noel Devine temporarily moved to Texas to live in Prosper with Deion, he attempted to gain admission to my HS, and was summarily denied. Even if he does sign with WVU, I seriously doubt you’ll ever see him on the field due to academics.
Add in the fact that this kid was an 18 yr old sophomore with one kid and another on the way at that point, and I don’t understand why any school would recruit him. He isn’t THAT special.
February 7th, 2007 at 6:15 pm
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J.J. says:
SKLM,
Judging by the name Logan Young, he’s probably from Bama.
Logan,
I learned a new word: “caker”. Thanks to you and Urban Dictionary.
CBG,
When Stacey Kiebler loves him, you don’t have much of a shot. You’re gonna have to set the bar a little below stratospheric SKLM levels.
February 7th, 2007 at 7:43 pm
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RIP Logan Young says:
SKLM,
Rock on.
February 7th, 2007 at 10:23 pm
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RIP Logan Young says:
6. caker
a guy who incessantly cheeses on girls, showering them with attention, compliments and, in extreme cases, gifts. Most cakers are guys who could not hook up without engaging in said activities, and even then it’s somewhat of a struggle.
Additionally, cakers tend not to be particularly discriminatory in the looks department (i.e., their caking is not exclusive to attractive females).
Also note that many cakers believe that they are studs, but they’re really just every girl’s platonic friend because he kisses their asses.
“Damn, did you see Nick at that party tonight? He told like every girl there she was pretty. What a caker!”
February 7th, 2007 at 10:25 pm
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MoreCowbell says:
The suspicious thing is that it WASN’T ND that originally started rumbling about Illinois’ recruiting tactics. A Board Op on a major Michigan Wolverine blog essentially outlined the entire NY Times story 2 months ago and stated that the UM athletic department was one of three Big10 schools to send letters of complaint to Delaney about Illinois tactics. He also said UM had compiled evidence on Illinois. and he closed with “there’s a major east coast daily doing an investigation into Illinois.” Ta-da…enter the NY Times two months later.
I suspect the reason why Illinois is blaming ND is that they have to live inside the Big10 with Michigan (and tOSU, who was most likely the other Big 10 culprit to write a letter of complaint) and it wouldn’t be wise to finger them publicly. (heh)
February 8th, 2007 at 3:16 pm
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CT says:
i loved the asst. coach’s voicemails bout “not being able to handle Big Time football”……..i suspect Benn took a gander at that Irish schedule and though perhaps playing 4 service academies every year would be a bit draining….word on Campus is they’re trying to pick up a home & home with the Coast Guard Academy in ‘08 and ‘09……..GO IRISH…..STAY WEAK….and continue to rue the day that UCLA fugged up your Bowl plans and you truly got a little sneek peek at BIGTIME Football…..ND in High Definition Invisibilty on NBC
February 8th, 2007 at 7:29 pm
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Emil Fleeman says:
Vass was let go for just this type of behavior, which says quite a bit about how the head coach responds to these matters.
February 9th, 2007 at 9:43 am
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SexyDexy says:
“How exactly can a school be a “football Hades” when their all-time winning percentage is well over .500, they’ve won 4 national titles and 21 conference titles?”
ESPNBS is right. Illinois has a winning tradition, not recently, but the potential’s there. George Halas, Red Grange… ring a bell? The Chicago Bears wear Illini colors because of Halas. The Bears even played in Memorial Stadium a few seasons ago when Soldier Field was being worked on. Illinois was a good team a few years back, as recently as 2002. Illinois has pro-level facilities, spends a lot of money on athletics, and is one of the best academic universities in the world (ranked #25 in the world ranking, higher than Northwestern despite what their assistant coach says in the NY Times article), two hours away from one of the largest cities in the world. With more than 500,000 living alumni, Illinois has one of the largest built-in, loyal fanbases. And John L. what’shisname is going to say that Illinois has nothing to sell?
And, well, I think the girls of Champaign can take on the SEC girls any day. U of I has the largest Greek system in the country– yep, that means we have the most sorority girls of any college. Just for that, we should have athletic recruits banging on our door.
March 29th, 2007 at 5:20 pm