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UCLA FANS=REPUBLICANS, FLORIDA FANS=ANARCHISTS

If you've read Homage to Catalonia by George Orwell--you know, a little hobby book about Orwell's weekend pasttime of going to war with strange armies--you may remember that of all the oddball sides to take, Orwell ends up fighting side by side with the Anarchists, who despite being yes, disorganized, generally get things done when it matters.

Then there's the Nationalists--highly organized, regimented, and led by a charismatic leader bent on victory. (There's also the Republicans, but we're never sure exactly where to put them in this argument. For simplicity's sake, we'll bench them here.) We've often thought you could divide college fanbases into these two groups.

Anarchists: the fanbases seemingly requiring no prompting, loud, ferocious, and often horribly unruly.

Republicans: fanbases requiring prodding at bayonetpoint to participate in highly organized fashion.

We weren't the first to find this--The Wiz, Paul, and Fire Mark May all found this first--but after watching this, we're certain UCLA fans fall into the Republican category.

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Wow. No wonder football can’t survive in LA. The fans are S-T-O-O-P-I-D.

by NewAZTiger on Jan 17, 2007 11:07 AM EST reply actions  

That is…not yet…not yet…not yet….but NOW… freaking TERRIBLE!

by RaginCajunRebel on Jan 17, 2007 11:11 AM EST reply actions  

This man would be torn to shreds at a WVU game, and that is just by the german shepherds used to protect the field from crowd. I’d hate to see what would happen should the students actually get a hold of him.

by letsplaytummysticks on Jan 17, 2007 11:14 AM EST reply actions  

Wow, awful. USC seemed to have some dude prompting the fans as well. It made me want to stab myself.

by Lazer on Jan 17, 2007 11:14 AM EST reply actions  

orson, was that the republicans or the nationalists that got benched? or does one run the ball on short downs?

by canuck on Jan 17, 2007 11:17 AM EST reply actions  

That guy is clearly the last guy on the west coast who understands football and is trying to find an apprentice to whom he can pass knowledge too.

The other UCLA’s (Upper Corner of Lower Alabama) fans need no such prompting.

by NewAZTiger on Jan 17, 2007 11:21 AM EST reply actions  

If I was on the victorious visiting team, I would seek this cheerleader out in the on-field crowd after the game and feed him his own hat.

by LemmeHearYaSayWarEagle on Jan 17, 2007 11:21 AM EST reply actions  

Wow. That’s just…sad, really. It’s like needing a fluffer at a nudie bar.

by CKGator on Jan 17, 2007 11:22 AM EST reply actions  

Maybe we shouldn’t be so quick to pass judgment; is there a section for the blind at the Rose Bowl?

by AUAlum on Jan 17, 2007 11:24 AM EST reply actions  

Obviously you’re not that familiar with UCLA, which is more commonly known as ACLU, or you’d know they definitely aren’t republicans.

When you combine this abomination with the previously featured “juggler” I think that about sums up football in Westwood.

by Rex Cramer on Jan 17, 2007 11:27 AM EST reply actions  

Apparenly UCLA football just isn’t entertaining. At least this guy sortakinda is talking football…unlike Mr. Juggler-man.

by Aerobab on Jan 17, 2007 11:28 AM EST reply actions  

[threadjack]
Has Subcom. Wayne committed suicide? I’m still interested in hearing his thoughts on tOSU’s “titanic” performance. I know others are, too.
[/threadjack]

by Aerobab on Jan 17, 2007 11:36 AM EST reply actions  

USC does not have a version of the 50 year old virgin, the Yell leaders used to lead the cheers. . . poorly (they were male cheeleaders in funny sweaters). They got canned, now its a cheer group called Team Trojan (weak) that is coed, but does just as bad of a job. Don’t forget UCLA’s Towel Boy — he’s UCLA’s winninest head coach (in terms of winning percentage).

by usctrojan78 on Jan 17, 2007 11:45 AM EST reply actions  

This brings a tear to my eye. The thought that there are “fans” out there who need to be told to get loud on defense makes me wonder what else in this life I take for granted as a given.
It is just so foreign to me to think about the Swamp during the Tennessee 1999 or “Alex Brown” game. Or what about FSU in 1997. Those poor UCLA players just don’t know what it is like to have crowd support, do they?

by Stranko Montana on Jan 17, 2007 11:45 AM EST reply actions  

rex, i don’t think you understood the metaphor.

by adam on Jan 17, 2007 11:49 AM EST reply actions  

While I will thank UCLA to no end for our dual championships, this… this… this… is an abomination. I fear sharing this with my UCLA friends here for fear they would rend their eyes from their skulls in horror.

Surely this is some kind of SFX joke?

by dogtown gator on Jan 17, 2007 11:52 AM EST reply actions  

I was aghast at seeing similar “yell leaders” live in action in Berkeley, CA. I had to let it slide, though, after my Berkeley alum girlfriend explained to me the horrors of “The Rutgers Year” – 1-10, the Scarlet Knights being the sole victory. When a DB (Deltha O’Neal) scores more points than your entire offense over the course of a season, you may need help getting the crowd excited.

by Halleck T. on Jan 17, 2007 11:59 AM EST reply actions  

Orson, You bench the Communists as well.
Rex, You need a program to follow Spanish Civil War analogies. It’s like Iraq.

by canuck on Jan 17, 2007 12:04 PM EST reply actions  

In fairness to us Cal alums, we all hate the “yell leaders” and look to bludgeon them at every turn. However! In 2002, one of those same yell leaders got busted at the Coliseum for attempting to incite a riot late in the 3rd quarter against USC.

by Whohah on Jan 17, 2007 12:04 PM EST reply actions  

Surely there will soon be a post about Shula being interviewed by Miami.

As a buddy of mine said, “Shula would be better at sucking farts out of movie theater seats than coaching football.”

by Cardiac Kids on Jan 17, 2007 12:07 PM EST reply actions  

to NewAZTiger … let us know when a football team in Arizona wins something.

by DumpDorrell on Jan 17, 2007 12:10 PM EST reply actions  

Please tell us the 48 fans heard in this recording treat the man with sort of a patronizing contempt.

Seems like most everywhere has mic men these days, but none of those guys — actual cheerleaders all — feel the need to educate the audience as this comm professor does.

Though I may have found something here the rest of the PAC-10 can use against USC. Call the coaches! Maybe … just maybe … if the 43 fans still paying attention on third down yelled during the huddle it would promote more miscommunication among those footballer gentlemen dressed so snazzily in pads and helmets.

Dear PAC-10: Three hours of yelling and lots of bourbon always works in the SEC. (“Where the S is for Speed!”)

by Kenny on Jan 17, 2007 12:11 PM EST reply actions  

  1. & #18

My point was that you’re likely to hear a much louder outcry over the association of the bruins to republicans than you’ll ever hear at their football games.

by Rex Cramer on Jan 17, 2007 12:17 PM EST reply actions  

rex, Then maybe that guy should have been making Spanish Civil War analogies. If that didn’t whip up the crowd enough he could make Weimar analogies about Democrats.

by canuck on Jan 17, 2007 12:33 PM EST reply actions  

And people wonder why LA doesn’t have an NFL team…

by Herb on Jan 17, 2007 12:49 PM EST reply actions  

If my memory serves me, the Republicans were with the Anarchists…and the Communists…and the Stalinists…and Robert Jordan in the Popular Front.

by rob on Jan 17, 2007 12:49 PM EST reply actions  

I attended the UCLA-USC game two years ago and witnessed this cock gobbler in action, and as a seasoned SEC veteran, was mortified. Yet, he fits right in with the sweater-tied-around-the-neck UCLA crowd.

OK BRUINS, BIG THIRD DOWN, SET DOWN YOUR LATTES!!

by Refuse to stab a pig on Jan 17, 2007 12:53 PM EST reply actions  

UCLA was easiest the school with the most sweaters thrown over the shoulders of any I went to on collegefootballtourguide.com .

The site is basically me going to different tailgates (this season was the Pac-10), drinking and asking stupid, leading questions to tailgaters. Needless to say, the views of drunken tailgaters don’t really disappoint.

collegefootballtourguide.com

by Dan on Jan 17, 2007 1:36 PM EST reply actions  

  1. - sure can do. I think UNA had a good season a few years ago, but I’m no longer in Aridzona….

by NewAZTiger on Jan 17, 2007 2:05 PM EST reply actions  

absolutely pathetic!

by matt on Jan 17, 2007 2:22 PM EST reply actions  

Aggies watching this see nothing wrong with it, merely that it’s somewhat amateurish compared to their own “yell leaders”. However, experience has taught Aggies that they need to meet the night before to practice their cheers lest their average comrades become confused by the gesturing and exhortations during the game (not to mention what’s actually happening on the field). They most likely also practice squeezing each other’s testes but on a more informal basis.

by Kahuna on Jan 17, 2007 3:07 PM EST reply actions  

Hey asshole! I knew Shorty Price and you sir are no Shorty Price!

Fucking poser fans need Tonny Robbins to get them on their feet.

by Cool Hand Mike on Jan 17, 2007 3:19 PM EST reply actions  

This cat could fire them up!

by Cool Hand Mike on Jan 17, 2007 3:30 PM EST reply actions  

  1. - And don’t forget the People’s Front of Judea…

by tOSU_radar on Jan 17, 2007 3:30 PM EST reply actions  

I’m sure they’d giggle at Mr. Two Bits, as if you can compare the two. With only a few exceptions, UF does take the anarchist role seriously. The famous “Orange/Blue” cheer originally was organized by our cheerleaders (it ended with “Fight, Fight Florida U!”), but it wasn’t until the crowd came to life on their own that the cheer became a weapon of mass destruction. If Andy Kaufman were alive today, he could tell the story of how he was boo’ed off the stage by the Orange/Blue cheer. That was Kuh-lassic!

by Duhhh on Jan 17, 2007 4:19 PM EST reply actions  

DAMNIT. Soooo close to being the first one to comment with “People’s Front of Judea.”

You must be part of that Judean People’s Front swine, #34.

by jonathantu on Jan 17, 2007 6:40 PM EST reply actions  

I’m not surprised to see this from Cal State Westwood/UC West Hollywood/whatever Dorrell’s team calls themselves

by David on Jan 17, 2007 7:31 PM EST reply actions  

Whatever happened to the Popular Front?

by Chris on Jan 17, 2007 8:03 PM EST reply actions  

I can attest to this as I’ve had the misfortune of attending a UCLA game. It was against maybe Washington at the Rose Bowl. I felt bad for the kids as the fans didn’t even take notice as the team came out of the tunnel. Nobody cheers, nobody care. Sad.

by RB on Jan 17, 2007 8:43 PM EST reply actions  

I EXTREMELY UNFORTUNATELY now attend Cal (UC Berkeley) after graduating from Florida last year. When I went to my first game, I wanted to fucking strangle the “Mic Men”, as they are called here. They have no clue what is going on with the game…they try to get us to yell when it is TV timeout, they scream into the mics to get absolute silence from the fans when we are on offense…it is just pathetic.

The real problem with the PAC-10 is that there are so few students who go to the games, and the alumni sit on their fat yuppie asses and don’t cheer at all. We actually have cheers like “Hey alumni…make some noise!!!” Also at Cal, we have the “Rally Committee”, which is some extremely shitty version of FBK where you join by buying a gold and blue rugby shirt and then recveive the privilege of sitting in the first 20 or so rows of the student section. They also set up some extremely gay “card stunts”…which we proceed to throw at them after halftime.

If you really want to see something bad, go to the last home game at Cal during the season….three words: Mic Men Tryouts. Anyone from the South…ANYONE, even a noles grad….could do better than these west-coast fools.

by Zach J on Jan 17, 2007 8:46 PM EST reply actions  

is that crazy george? where is his drum?

by TRG on Jan 17, 2007 9:16 PM EST reply actions  

Were there really people who didn’t realize how pathetic UCLA and their fans are? Hadn’t you ever seen BruinsNation? The “Bring Down the Whammy” guy? The juggler?

The UCLA fanbase was roasted in the SoCal media after the big upset win this year. Way too many of them acted like Raider fans, which is not what should happen at a good public university.

by oc phil on Jan 17, 2007 10:46 PM EST reply actions  

Wah wah wah. I go to Cal. At least we don’t have metro male cheerleaders with bullhorns and tights.

by Naw on Jan 18, 2007 1:39 AM EST reply actions  

Noone has brought up the really sad part of this. That UCLA has a 50-something cheerleader with his own sound system is an issue, yes, but at least he’s into the game. Like any good cheerleader, he’s actually leading cheers, paying attention to the game, etc. Sure, his style is pathetic and he’s 30 years too old, but it’s not the biggest sin in this video.

The worst part of the video is this: Someone was making the video. They paid their money to go see what is ostensibly the biggest event on their school’s athletic calender, and instead of watching the game, this dumbass is sitting there videotaping a cheerleader. The only football seen there is when it happens directly behind said cheerleader. Whomever was behind the camera needs to be shot. The old guy just needs to have his mic taken away and his ass put in row 23.

by crazy tom on Jan 18, 2007 2:15 AM EST reply actions  

I don’t know that a bunch of bright-ish, well-scrubbed middle class undergrads taking advantage of the fine middle class subsidy that is a UC education really count as the Spanish Republicans, even in metaphor.

Furthermore: Madrid, cabrones, saludad a los campeones!

Remember kids, consulting fucks with your head. Get a proper job.

by DC Trojan on Jan 18, 2007 2:43 AM EST reply actions  

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