SOLON’S PICKS, BOWL WEEK PART TWO
On a hectic pre-holiday Friday, Solon chips in his final bowl picks. Enjoy.
Greetings all.
All things considered, while this has been a thoroughly dissatisfying season for me, I suppose things should be put in perspective; after an uneven 6-11 start, I recovered to go on a 49-24 run–as good an extended run as I have ever had–before stumbling to a 17-28 (and counting) finish–as bad an extended run as I have ever had.
A wiser man than myself once said that the bottom line in this game is that you win some, you lose some, and you hope you win more than you lose. While for the better part of November I wondered if the first part of that adage was true, even in this, one of my more personally disappointing seasons, I have been able to accomplish this task; anyone using my selections, wagering with the traditional 10-11 vigorish, would show a profit for the season.

Profit! It’s what’s for dinner.
My two-year record stands at 156-124, a much more robust 55.7%; generally, a percentage above 55% is considered professional-level quality, and every season a 55% winning percentage is my stated goal. I will fall short of that number this season unless I am able to run the table with my final five selections, which given my current form is highly unlikely; hopefully this off-season I will learn some lessons and come back strong when next season starts.
As it stands (I am writing this Thursday night), my record for the year is 72-63, a winning percentage of 53.3%; please note that I still have wagers on South Carolina and Texas Tech still pending, in addition to those listed below. Hopefully I can close it out strong and build a little momentum for next season. Here are my final selections for the season:
COTTON BOWL, Dallas, TX
Nebraska (+1) v. Auburn
As I have said many times, I thought Auburn was overrated for much of the season. Even now, I am perplexed by their wins over LSU and Florida (although, both games were at home, they were outgained substantially by LSU and didn’t score an offensive TD against Florida, and one could argue they were fortunate to win either contest). Outside of those two games, and the opener against WSU, Auburn’s performances have been very uneven; ‘Bama gave them a victory with turnovers, and games against South Carolina and Ole Miss went down to the wire, and they were of course dominated at home by Arkansas and Georgia. Offensively, they have been very average; their running game has been very pedestrian, and while Nebraska is vulnerable against the pass, Auburn has only thrown for more than 200 yards this season against BCS opposition against Mississippi and Mississippi State. On the other side of the ball, Auburn has a good but not great D, and they have also shown vulnerability against the pass; the difference is that Nebraska HC Callahan will surely exploit this weakness. SEC opponents averaged 7.44 ypp against Auburn with an 8-6 ratio, but those numbers are a little deceptive, as they were only truly effective against Mississippi State’s non-existent passing game; in their other 7 SEC games, Auburn gave up 8.07 ypp with an 8-5 ratio. Nebraska’s passing game got better as the season progressed, although they struggled against OU’s strong pass D in the Big 12 Championship game with 3 interceptions. Even including that poor performance, for the season in Big 12 play Nebraska threw for 8.04 ypp with an 18-5 ratio. Nebraska’s running game is prolific if not efficient–they averaged 150 ypg and 4.13 ypc in Big 12 play–and they will likely outproduce Auburn on the ground as well, and be able to control the clock. Auburn will want to make amends for last year’s poor bowl performance, but Nebraska should have a big edge in the crowd and I think they will have too much for Auburn to overcome.

Callahan will have those “fucking rednecks” in line, according to Solon.
OUTBACK BOWL, Tampa, FL
Tennessee (-4) v. Penn State
Penn State has a legitimate D, but their O has severe limitations. Against quality defensive opposition–Ohio State, Michigan, and Wisconsin–Penn State averaged 6 ppg and 212 ypg, and only managed 1 TD–on a 43-yard screen pass–in those three games. I am not sure that Tennessee has a D as good as any of those–they very well may have, however–but there is little doubt that Tennessee’s D is far superior to anyone else on the Penn State schedule. Tennessee’s running game has been uneven this season, although the presence of RB Coker has made a massive difference; with him, they are averaging 137 ypg and 4.41 ypc; without him, they are averaging 44 ypg and 1.87 ypc (albeit against considerably stronger opposition). Tennessee’s big advantage in this contest lies with the passing game; QB Ainge is averaging 8.75 ypp with a 19-8 ratio for the season. Penn State’s pass D has been pretty good this season, but they have dominated lesser passing games while struggling against better ones; to illustrate, ND, Minnesota, Michigan and Wisconsin averaged 7.85 ypp against them with a 7-0 ratio (PSU admittedly had a good game against Ohio St QB Smith, but that was as much a product of the weather conditions than anything else). I believe Tennessee’s passing game is at least as good as any of those, and I think it will make the difference here as the PSU O will not have much production against the stout Tennessee D.
SUGAR BOWL, New Orleans, LA
Louisiana State (-9.5) v. Notre Dame
In many ways, the story of Notre Dame encapsulates all that is great about college football; legendary coaches, legendary players, legendary games, all from a small school in the Midwest that remains independent despite playing in the geographical midst of the nation’s oldest, and arguably most storied, conference. Unfortunately, the romance and tradition surrounding the program has put recent editions in the odd position of having to punch well above their weight in the postseason. Much like last season, Notre Dame does not belong anywhere near a BCS bowl; and, due to their rich tradition, they once again must face a marquee opponent that is far superior rather than a more manageable BCS foe, such as Boise State or Wake Forest. Notre Dame’s O is one-dimensional; RB Walker provides little balance to QB Quinn. Unfortunately for the Irish, if LSU’s D is vulnerable anywhere, it is against the run (witness Arkansas’ performance against them); against the pass they are solid, giving up only 5.52 ypp with a 9-10 ratio against BCS opponents. And, ND’s offensive problems pale in comparison to their defensive problems; while they have been a suspect unit all year long against largely mediocre opposition, they now have to face a unit that is every bit the equal of the two teams that dominated them this season. QB Russell’s production has been remarkably consistent–between 196 and 269 yards in 11 of 12 games–and, incredibly efficient, averaging 9.08 ypp with a 26-7 ratio. ND has faced three decent passing attacks this season–Michigan, Purdue, and USC–who averaged 295 ypg and 9.21 ypp with an 8-3 ratio. It seems unlikely that ND will be able to keep the LSU passing game in check, and I look for a big win for the Tigers in this spot.

Roy Horn and Notre Dame will have something in common, according to Solon.
OTHER GAMES OF NOTE:
ROSE BOWL, Pasadena, CA
Michigan (+2) v. Southern California
I’m a little confused by the line movement on this game, which has shifted the favorite. Michigan’s D is almost certainly not as good as people thought it was earlier in the season–by which I mean in mid-November–but I suspect that facing the Ohio State offense will do that to a lot of legitimate defenses. USC brings a strong passing attack, but their running game is certainly limited. Even after their performance against Ohio State, I rate the Michigan rush D as the best in the nation and I think they will render the USC O one-dimensional. While the performance of the Michigan O in the OSU-Mich game was overshadowed by the performance of the Ohio State O, it was still impressive, as they gained 397 yards against a D that had given up a previous high of 343 yds this season. Most impressive was the performance of RB Hart, who had 23 carries for 142 yards. Hart is not going to dominate games, but he will always get yards and provide QB Henne with some balance. Henne, meanwhile, has really developed as a passer this season, averaging 7.66 ypp, nearly a yard higher than his previous best, while still maintaining his strong ratio (this season, 20-7). In an odd reversal (given that they are a Pac-10 team), USC has probably not faced an offense as capable as Michigan’s this season; Nebraska’s probably is now, but it was not when the Trojans played them. I think Michigan rates a slight edge in just about every aspect–slightly better running game, passing game, run D (I think USC might have a slightly stronger pass D)–and, given that I am getting points, I would lean toward Michigan in this one.
FIESTA BOWL, Glendale, AZ
Oklahoma (-7) v. Boise State
Boise is no doubt a legitimate team but they are probably the equivalent of a mid-level BCS conference team like Mizzou or Georgia. I am not sure how excited Oklahoma will be to be playing in this game, but the return of RB Peterson at least suggests an honest effort out of their most potent offensive weapon. Add to this the strong Oklahoma D, and I think Boise will struggle on both sides of the ball. Boise has faced very few strong Ds this season; against Oregon State, Wyoming, and Utah, Boise averaged 32 ppg and 350 ypg; of course, none of these teams have anywhere near Oklahoma’s talent level or playmaking ability. Boise’s biggest problems lie on the other side of the ball, where the challenges faced by Boise this season have been few and far between. Outside of Hawaii–who had clearly not hit their stride, and, who, in any event, scored 34 points and gained 476 yds at Boise–Oregon State’s suspect O rates as the best Boise has faced. Specifically, Boise has yet to face a legitimate rushing attack; the best on their schedule has probably been that of SJSU or Fresno State. Even without RB Peterson, Oklahoma’s running game is superior to those teams; with him, they are vastly superior. QB Thompson has had a very good season as well, and likely rates as the second best QB Boise has faced (to Hawaii QB Brennan); the bottom line is that I believe the Boise D to be untested and that will likely make the difference as the strong Oklahoma D will keep Boise in check enough for their O to make the difference in this one.

They’ll be no blue turf to save them in Glendale.
ORANGE BOWL, Miami, FL
Louisville (-9.5) v. Wake Forest
I was quite close to playing this game, but I decided to hold off; Wake has been my “bogey side” this season, as I have gone 0-4 when selecting their games. The Louisville O is incredibly potent, but the loss of RB Bush in week one has undoubtedly curtailed their production; as a result they are not likely to go off against strong defenses as they have in recent seasons (witness their O scoring 24 pts v. K State, 18 pts v. Rutgers, and 23 pts v. Cincinnati). Wake’s success is largely inexplicable this season, but their is little doubt that they have a strong D; they only gave up more than 20 pts on D twice this season, and opponents are averaging less than 14 ppg. Even with this, there’s little doubt that Louisville will produce something offensively–they’ve only been held under 20 points once in the last three seasons–and it will be incumbent upon Wake’s O to keep up. This is where Wake will run into trouble; Louisville does not have a great D, but they are serviceable, and Wake–which has only gained as many as 300 yards twice all season–will probably not be able to get the job done. I also think Wake will be satisfied with their season, whereas Louisville will feel they have something to prove. All in all, Louisville should get the job done, but 9.5 is a lot of points to give to a legitimate opponent and I think it might be too big an ask for the Cards.
NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME, Glendale, AZ
Ohio State (-7.5) v. Florida
I have gone back and forth on this game, and I have come to the conclusion that the Gators are up against it. In retrospect, the Gators probably have a better D than Michigan, but that assessment is primarily a product of Ohio State’s dominance against the Wolverines; 6 TDs, 3 punts, 3 TOs. Florida’s D has played well against good offenses this season–Tennessee scored 20 pts, South Carolina scored 16 pts, and LSU scored 10 pts–but none of those teams present the challenge that Ohio State does; OSU features better players at every unit–QB, RB, WR, and OL–than their SEC counterparts. So long as OSU’s execution does not suffer too much from the long layoff–keep in mind that the Michigan game was played on Nov. 18–they will almost certainly fare better in terms of production than any opponent the Florida D has faced this season. No doubt Florida will do better than Michigan did against OSU’s O, but even that will not likely be enough, given their limitations on O. Ohio State’s D is, to some extent, vulnerable against the run, but that isn’t Florida’s strength; in fact, Florida’s running game at this point consists of direct snaps to WR Harvin and keepers by QB Tebow; primary RB Wynn seems to be an afterthought. Florida’s passing attack is fair, but Ohio St has defended the pass well this season–only Michigan’s superior passing attack had sustained success against them–and it is unlikely that Florida’s QBs will be able to do enough to keep up with the Ohio State O.
Of course, there’s always the chance that Ohio State hasn’t really been tested; all they’ve done this season is beat Texas (not looking overly impressive, at this point–and, in any event, it was QB McCoy’s second game) and Michigan–who themselves had only beaten an overrated ND team and an otherwise untested Wisconsin team. What happened to their O when they played a great Penn State D? How about against a less great (but still good) Illinois D? If Ohio State had needed to test their mettle at Auburn, at Tennessee, and at home to LSU, would they still be undefeated? I’m not sure. Usually, it doesn’t work like this, but it’s certainly possible that the Big 10 was so weak this season that both Ohio State and Michigan (as well as Wisconsin) are fabulously overrated (by way of comparison, look at the Big 8 in 1987), and they’ll be ill-equipped to deal with a more battle-hardened Florida team. A good barometer might be Michigan’s performance in the Rose Bowl; I think if Michigan does not hold their own, Ohio State might be in trouble (Wisconsin is a bit of an anomaly, I don’t think their performance will tell us much about Ohio State). In the end, I think it’s best to pass and hope for a good game.
Florida/Ohio State: Happy Fun Ball untouchable.
A hearty thanks to all commenters for all of your input this season; best of luck to all of you with your wagers.









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irishoutsider says:
Do not taunt Ohio State.
December 29th, 2006 at 10:41 am
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DurhamO says:
Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.
Do not NOT taunt Ohio State.
December 29th, 2006 at 10:51 am
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DurhamO says:
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December 29th, 2006 at 10:54 am
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BHathaway says:
You spelled it wrong… don’t you mean Tim TeaBAG?
December 29th, 2006 at 10:58 am
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GamecockTony says:
The Tennessee -4 over PSU smells like a rat.
Don’t touch it, boys and girls.
For the record, I’d take Boise on the money line.
Oh, and in a bowl pool I am in, someone’s entry name is “SupermanWearsTimTebowPJ’s” – classic.
December 29th, 2006 at 11:27 am
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PM says:
“Much like last season, Notre Dame does not belong anywhere near a BCS bowl”
We were #6 last year, how did we not belong? Sure this year you can certainly make the argument, but last year? Come on.
December 29th, 2006 at 11:53 am
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Pants McPants says:
I don’t really like the Domers, but as an objective college football fan above all else, I’ve gotten tired of the oft repeated “Notre Dame does not belong in a BCS bowl” mantra. Everything is relative, and if ND isn’t in, who deserves to be in their place? Va Tech? west Virginia? Those seem to be the only two in contention, and both of those teams have two losses to teams worse than USC and UM…Maybe they would beat ND, maybe not, it isn’t a no-brainer either way though…
To make an analogy, if you have a beauty contest that requires six finalists, and you have 5 Victoria Secrets models, Suzy Kolber, and 10 Rosie O’Donnell clones, then Suzy “deserves” to be in, no matter how you feel she stacks up relative to the other 5…
December 29th, 2006 at 12:20 pm
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Wooderson says:
What? No “Bag o’ Glass” sketch? Akroyd at his finest.
December 29th, 2006 at 12:20 pm
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Aesculus glabra says:
So you are going to abstain from picking. Well, well, well.
Great blog by the way have enjoyed reading all yr. Including that wacky poison nut dude.
December 29th, 2006 at 12:40 pm
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RodBeck says:
You be careful wit’ dat!
Oh, and re: #7 – How about Wisconsin, ranked four spots ahead of the Irish in the BCS? At least we haven’t seen them get completely waxed in a big game yet.
December 29th, 2006 at 1:15 pm
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Pants McPants says:
Wisconsin cannot be in a BCS game for the same reason Arkansas cannot, only two teams from a conference can go. It’s the rules. If you’re determining who is the most deserving to go to a bowl, you have to at least start with the teams that are eligible to do so…
December 29th, 2006 at 1:20 pm
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Ahab says:
Tennessee and Michigan are locks (I expect UM to win by double digits). I’d stay away from Nebraska.
December 29th, 2006 at 1:21 pm
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RodBeck says:
Well, we were talking about who *deserves* to be in a BCS bowl. Rules, schmules.
December 29th, 2006 at 1:43 pm
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Solon says:
RE Notre Dame, this season: Any of West Virginia, Virginia Tech, or Rutgers deserve a BCS spot ahead of Notre Dame this season.
West Virginia, especially, played a tougher schedule than ND–the Big East is quite good this season–and the one knock on WVa–their lack of quality wins–pales in comparison to ND’s lack of quality wins.
RE Notre Dame, last season: Whatever their ranking, ND was highly overrated last season. Being ranked #6 when their only achievement of note was a close loss to the #1 team was ridiculous–I would argue that 20 of the top 25 teams in the nation last season could have gone 9-1 against the other 10 teams on the ND schedule, as ND did, and a fair bit of them–probably close to 15–would have gone 10-0.
As it stood, both Auburn and LSU were considerably more deserving of a BCS bid than ND.
December 29th, 2006 at 2:29 pm
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Ed Legion says:
Perplexed by Auburn beating Florida? Auburn came out in the 2nd half and shut them down, Florida was 1-7 on 3rd downs, had less total yards,etc. So what if they didn’t score an offensive TD. They certainly moved the ball. Go back and look at the stats for the game. Auburn just came out and beat them in the 2nd half. And the the fumble by Leak was called correctly. He never released the ball, he held it past the point of release and looked like he intended to tuck it but it was knocked loose . I’ve watched that play several times and it was called correctly. I don’t like bad calls and if I felt like it was a bad call I would say so. Besides , there is no guarentee Florida would have scored any way. Auburn was in their backfield all day. But I will be pulling for the Gators against OSU. Chomp,Chomp!
December 29th, 2006 at 2:54 pm
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Dr KennethNoisewater says:
Wait a second. Did i just hear that Rutgers and West Va had stronger schedules than the irish? Am i the only one who forgot they play in the Big East? I feel like i’m taking crazy pills here.
And dont even start with the out of conference schedules, unless you are tryin to use the fightin Illini to prove your point.
ND had the 18th hardest schedule in college football this year. Even harder than Tosu or the lovable gators (chomp chomp). While the service academies may suck, they at least aren’t in conferences that end with -AC or -unbelt Conference.
I get it. Wisconsin or Arky should’ve gone to a BCS bowl game. They couldn’t. It was between W. VA (Rutgers wouldn’t be a factor cuz W. VA beat them in the head to head) And besides Louisville and Rutgers they didn’t play squat.
ND may not “deserve” the appearance, but neither has the big east since the inception of the BCS system.
December 29th, 2006 at 3:15 pm
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fd says:
I prefer not to discount the BCS rules when discussing who should be in the games, since the rules were a product of negotiations between all conferences/teams.
That said, WVU was ND’s only competition.
Va Tech and Rutgers weren’t eligible (Not in top 14. See “At-Large Teams.” http://www.bcsfootball.org/bcsfb/eligibility )
Neither were Wisconsin, Auburn, or Arkansas. (I think most agree that UM and LSU are the deserving at-larges from those conferences. If not, it doesn’t matter. Rules are rules.) If the conferences want auto bids for when the conference is crappy, it’s fair to have a ceiling when the conference is strong.
Back to WVU. Agianst UL, WVU was down by 16 for most of the second half. And then they lost to USF. Hardly an open-and-shut case, there.
Regarding “overratedness,” at this time last year, it was far from obvious that ND was overrated at their #6 BCS spot. Even the blogpoll had them at #7, and those are the people who are supposed to be able to see through media hype, right? I’m not saying that the Fiesta Bowl results were that surprising, but I can’t help but think that your assessment today isn’t heavily influenced by hindsight.
December 29th, 2006 at 3:22 pm
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DR. Ed PHD.XYZ says:
#16 I believe Florida’s schedule was rated higher than the Irish.
December 29th, 2006 at 3:43 pm
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Solon says:
Ed–What perplexed me about Auburn is that they won; I’m not saying the statistics were inconsistent (if that makes any sense).
In other words, I watched Auburn go out and get controlled by Arkansas. How did that same team go out and beat Florida? Then, how did the team that dominated on D against the Gators go out and get dominated by Georgia, with a true freshman QB who had been very shaky all season?
This is a recurring “problem” with Auburn–they often seem to punch above their weight in big games, then go and lose to very average teams that they seem to have overmatched.
December 29th, 2006 at 3:46 pm
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DR. Ed PHD.XYZ says:
Yes, when you look at that way it is perplexing. Maybe that means Auburn will show up in the Cotton Bowl.
December 29th, 2006 at 4:02 pm
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Solon says:
Doctor–First off, the Big East is good this season; either the Big East or the SEC has been the best conference in college football this season. For whatever reason, people don’t notice the Big East’s 34-8 record in non-conference games this season, or their 12-7 record against the other BCS conferences.
Perhaps there is a rule I don’t know about that says that since Big East hasn’t been good lately, it can’t possibly be good this season, even if their OOC records put every other conference (save the SEC) to shame.
Second, in my estimation, ND’s schedule is not any better than West Virginia’s, although I suppose reasonable people could disagree. ND has defeated a bunch of mid-level teams that are marginal bowl teams–PSU, UCLA, Navy, and Purdue–and they have one win over a “quality” team–GT.
I would argue that Rutgers and Cincy are both superior to GT, and Maryland is close to being their equivalent. And WV’s wins over Pitt and ECU are probably as good as the wins over PSU, et al.
Also, not that it is too relevant, but WV probably would not have lost to USF but for an injury to their QB, and they defeated a quality Rutgers team without him. ND, without Quinn, would have lost any number of games.
December 29th, 2006 at 4:12 pm
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Atlantadomer says:
ND doesn’t deserve it.. blah, blah, blah. When Jamarcus and Dorsey stagger to the Superdome from the Hustler club on Bourbon street and get waxed by ND on January 3rd, the whole country will then say “Well, if LSU had took the game more seriously then ND wouldn’t have won it.” Wake up everyone, the biggest ND haters in the media all have personal axes to grind – whether its Doug “shorty” Flutie bitter over the 1983 BC loss to a Gerry Faust (ouch) coached ND team in a bowl, or Mark “say it loud” May still torqued over ND getting the invite in 1980 to the Sugar Bowl to play eventual National Champ UGA (anybody see that meltdown on the ESPN all time College Football playoff show?) ND is taking the top players out of Georgia, Tennessee, and Florida this year – everyone will be bowing to the glare of the gold for years to come. Go Irish.
December 29th, 2006 at 4:12 pm
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Lawya1 says:
I have lost all respect for Solon.
December 29th, 2006 at 4:24 pm
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Solon says:
Lawya1–I’ve lost all respect for that sonofabitch too.
Gamecock Tony–just for you, here are some totals:
Arkansas/Wisconsin (over 45):
I think Wisconsin’s D is pretty good, but they will have their hands full with Arkansas’ running game, by far the best they’ll have faced this season. Wisconsin is almost certainly a little overrated but they are efficient on O, and they should be able to score points on a pretty average Arkansas D.
GT/West Va (under 48):
GT brings a strong D to the table, and they should be able to hold a strong WV O in check. They will also play above their heads now that QB Ball has been suspended. West Va stuffs the run but is vulnerable to the pass–but there is no way that QB Bennett will be able to do anything against them. I would not be surprised if GT was held to 10 pts or less, and if that happens there is almost no way that WV will score enough to get ahead of this number.
December 29th, 2006 at 4:41 pm
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irishbear says:
I love Suzy
December 29th, 2006 at 5:07 pm
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Ahab says:
There is no way any rational human could rate ND’s schedule over Florida’s this year.
December 29th, 2006 at 5:35 pm
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rjsplow says:
Re: Comment #16:
-I can understand, somewhat anyway, someone saying that ND’s schedule was “hard” as they did have three quality opponents (and I will only mention this once: 2 of those 3 games were a complete, abject, unmitigated ass-beating, ND didn’t have a chance after the coin toss).
-I can also somewhat understand someone saying that ND’s schedule was comparable at least a little to tOSU seeing as, like Solon says, their OOC schedule isn’t as formidible as it once looked and the Big 10 is down.
-I cannot, however, account for the claim that ND’s schedule was “harder” than Florida’s, unless the person saying that statement is an ignorant ND homer who is so delusional that he made that statement after snorting lines of green nose candy off of a leprechuan’s ass. Seriously, that’s the most ridiculous statement I think I’ve ever read on this site. Get a clue.
December 29th, 2006 at 7:20 pm
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JohnWA says:
It’s called SOS rankings, not some delusional ND homer, rjsplow. He didn’t pull that number out of thin air. Do I agree that ND’s schedule was harder than UF’s? No, not really. Then again, ND didn’t schedule a 1AA opponent late in their season either.
December 29th, 2006 at 7:49 pm
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Solon says:
JohnWA, I think that number was pulled out of thin air.
According to what as far as I can tell are the “official” SOS rankings, Florida is #1 (by a mile), and ND is 28th (for the record, West Va is 22nd and Ohio State are 23rd).
According to Sagarin, Florida is rated 18th, and ND is ranked 20th (Ohio State is 40th).
I don’t know where that #18 schedule for ND comes from, to be honest.
December 29th, 2006 at 8:12 pm
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Dr KennethNoisewater says:
Solon,
For some reason my post didn’t post awhile back, but yeah, It was Sagarin. It was Sagarin before the championship games, thereby making it regular season strength of schedule. Florida was in the mid-20s and nd was 18. After the SEC championship game Florida jumped to 18 and ND was knocked down to 20.
December 29th, 2006 at 8:33 pm
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Dr KennethNoisewater says:
oh, and West Va is 42nd according to Sagarin
December 29th, 2006 at 8:35 pm
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Solon says:
Doctor–Si, si, entiendo.
I’m a little surprised Sagarin’s got them that close. I think he’s overrating the Pac 10–which is some of it, because ND played 3 Pac 10 teams–but I’m still surprised Florida is rated so low.
December 29th, 2006 at 8:46 pm
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Solon says:
For the record, I also think that Sagarin is underrating the Big East. This will probably change after the bowls.
December 29th, 2006 at 8:47 pm
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J.J. says:
I think I’m gonna start referring to myself as ‘Dr. Moses’.
December 29th, 2006 at 8:58 pm
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Solon says:
I think there might be some confusion regarding my attitude toward ND–I don’t particularly hate them; the truth is, I don’t really care one way or another about them.
What I do care about is that they continue to be selected for BCS games, and then those games are not competitive, because ND is not very good. In essence, these games are ruined because of the selection of ND–the 2006 Fiesta Bowl, the 2001 Fiesta Bowl, and, going back further, the 1995 Fiesta Bowl.
As a fan of the game, it would have been nice to see (e.g.) 1994 Colorado face a challenge in their bowl game–instead, they were paired with a 6-4-1 ND team. Ridiculous, really–and there’s no other team that would have been selected for that game with that resume.
December 30th, 2006 at 12:08 pm
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Timugen says:
A 6-4-1 ND team in 1994 has absolutely nothing to do with a 10-2 ND team in 2006.
December 30th, 2006 at 12:44 pm
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Solon says:
I don’t want to get into a pissing contest, Timugen, but your statement has no basis in reality. They have everything to do with each other.
Both the 1994 team and the 2006 team were (are) “Notre Dame,” and as a result both are considered attractive to the respective bowl committees with little regard to how good the actual matchup would be.
Is this year’s ND team better? I’m not sure, that 1994 team played a much tougher schedule–but, in any event, the W-L record doesn’t have much to do with why ND was chosen to play in the Sugar Bowl this season; instead, it was because of increased ticket sales and increased TV ratings. Which, of course, was the exact same reason they were selected for the Fiesta Bowl in 1995, 2001, and 2006.
December 30th, 2006 at 1:16 pm
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Dr KennethNoisewater says:
Everybody’s gotta hate the popular kid….
Hey, we here at ND feel ya. Alot of people here have said on a number of occassions that they wish we would go to a more underrated (see: toyota gator) bowl just so we can just win a damn bowl game.
It’s a known fact that the reason our bowl record is so bad is because we are so popular we get put in bowls that are a bit over our heads because we always put butts in the seats. No biggy.
But do you think we’d turn away 4+ million more dollars, a sweet recruiting line, and more national exposure for our school? Hells no. who would?
Also, it’s always fun when ND is the underdog. I’m glad people are sayin we are gonna get whipped. So if (when) we do win, it’s gonna go down in history.
December 30th, 2006 at 8:02 pm
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Dr KennethNoisewater says:
But to be fair, who knew ohio state was going to be THAT good before the fiesta bowl? I mean, woof. It was basically this year’s team with a better defense and one more home run reciever.
And do you really think the Oregon Ducks (last year’s “left out” team) could’ve done that much better against them?
December 30th, 2006 at 8:04 pm
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Solon says:
Doctor–that’s the original point I was trying to make, that ND’s history of success has put the recent teams in a tough spot.
Interesting that you would mention how ND wouldn’t turn down a BCS bid (they wouldn’t, of course), since they are the one team in recent memory who has turned down a bowl bid (in Holtz’s last season, I remember their attitude was “Big bowl or bust,” and when they lost to USC they decided not to go anywhere).
At that point, at least, it seemed that ND was the one school that had enough integrity to turn down a bowl bid not commensurate with their expected level of success (not that other teams really would have the ability to do it, with conference tie-ins and all–I don’t think it would go over too well with other conference members if a team turned down a bowl bid and cost the other conference members millions of dollars).
Of course, I realize that a BCS bid is a different animal, no one in their right mind would ever turn one down–especially an independent who wouldn’t have to split the proceeds.
Not that there’s really any point to what I am saying–you’re right, the fault certainly doesn’t lie with ND.
As for Ohio State last season, someone knew how much ass they were gonna kick in the Fiesta…if only I could remember who it was…
http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/?p=1532
December 31st, 2006 at 2:59 am
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DR. Ed PHD.XYZ says:
#22 There are a couple of factors you are missing in the LSU-ND game. #1 There are a lot of Catholics in New Orleans and Louisiana for that matter. There are a lot of good players that come from Catholic schools down there. That fact won’t go unnoticed by the LSU staff .#2 LSU probably has the most physical defense ND will face. Another problem I have is why ND is even in the game. Why should other schools be penalized because the BCS says only 2 schools can go to a BCS game. Since ND benefits from this little glitch something needs to be changed to stop ND from going to a game when there are higher ranked teams thay are more deserving to go. If anyone should be penalized it should be ND. If they want to be an Independent,fine.But they don’t deserve to go because of it (by rule). Let them join a conference and play a solid schedule . BTW, I’m not an LSU fan or a ND hater,it’s just the way I see it.
December 31st, 2006 at 7:16 am
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Catholics are delicious says:
I hate ND but watch out for Walker to have a nice game and open things up and help Smarjiasdhkjasda get behind the safeties.
December 31st, 2006 at 7:21 am
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GMan says:
Who has some college locks for the up and coming bowl games? I think Boise St. will the sooners a bett er game than most think. As far as ND, I would take them w/ the points, +9 1/2. I also think that the Gators have no chance!!
December 31st, 2006 at 4:34 pm
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Atlantadomer says:
Jealousy, jealousy, jealousy. Thank you for acknowledging that it isn’t ND’s fault for getting invited to the bigtime bowl games – it’s also not ND’s fault for just recruiting better character kids and holding them to higher standards than “conference” schools. Look at the graduation charts for the bowl games, then take a look at the GPA’s of the teams. ND’s QB has a double major in Poli-Sci and Finance (not exactly Mass Comm or Sociology there you know). We (I’m an alum, I can say we) are just better people than SEC rednecks and our black athletes graduate at the same rate as the white ones. With Weis at the helm, we will continue to land the top flight STUDENT/athletes throughout the south.
I grew up in the south and still live in the south, for now. Thanks to what I’m sure was the “drunk on Pabst Blue Ribbon from Taco Mac” Auburn suck ass who stole the brand new ND flag I got for Christmas off my house, after I had it flying for all of one day. Thanks a lot. I hope your team gets annihilated (go get the dictionary and look that one up inbred) in your bowl game. Go Irish, because we are just better people.
January 1st, 2007 at 9:01 am