O-H-I-O! YEAH WASSUP!

Ouch, sir. Ouch.

Did anyone else catch Tom Brady saying that Michigan should be in the NC game because Florida “just isn’t a good team” yesterday? Classic.

Also—the new rumor down here is that JaMarcus is going pro, but Matt Flynn is transferring to Oklahoma for his senior year under the “grad school” rule, leaving LSU with only Perralioux next year. Sweet, indeed.

Great stuff! GO BUCKS!!

Well subcomendate wayne maybe you could explain to me (pause, ush up glasses with middle finger and snort) why tOSU has the worst acedemic ecored (pause again, push up glasses) in all of CFB?

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2006/12/06/college

signed,

bed wetting liberal nerd.

Well, with a Buckeye at the helm I guess we should all head to our local public libraries to read the site today.
Ya know, just to make him feel at home.

Nice graduation rates for Cheaty McSweatervest’s boys, by the way. 32% of African-Amercan players earning their degrees. Must really warm the cockles of your heart.

Gamecock Tony said ‘cockles.’ Heh.

Holy muddafukkin shit.

I just woke the damn baby up laughing.

If Michigan had won that thing you call a football game, guess who’d be whining and crying now? Why don’t you add a team to your conference and have 2 divisions and a conference championship game? Go Gators!!!

On like Donkey Kong. Love it.

Rhetorical question: would Gator fans trade a 10% APR reduction for a MNC? How about a 20% reduction? 50%?

Now how low would you let that APR drop for TWO MNC’S IN 5 YEARS, BITCHES??!?!?

Oh, snap.

dude, creed is sooo much cooler.

Has the Rock Star Supernova album ad always been there, or did it just appear for Buckeye day?

“…now I hate Florida because they’re a total bunch of rednecks…”

Irony, thy name is Subcommandante Wayne…

Nickelback is the favorite band of the Buckeyes? This explains so much of their douchebag behavior.

The data for grad rates were under the Cooper regime (1996-2000). Talk to us in six years when they put up numbers relative to Tressel’s reign. I guess the data took longer to collect than it took to go to college.

I know we helped UF win a championship in 1996 (losing to UM and beating ASU in the RB). We are now wanting to be compensated for the favor. Great blog OS & SM.

Michigan
Remember
Rule# 76
No excuses…..Play like a champion.
Losers

Sweet Jesus…..Nickelback? Let’s not say things we can’t take back…

“Talk to us in six years when they put up numbers relative to Tressel’s reign.”

Will this be before or after the NCAA sanctions?

ssay what you will about subcommandante.. the man does know enough to stick with fender.

Gamecock Tony, if there were going to be sanctions, we would have been hit during the Clarett fiasco. I don’t think Captain Sweatervest is guilty of anything except owning Llllloyd Carr. He seems pretty clean, to me…

Take another drink of haterade, hater ;)

gee, blaming the grad rates on Cooper sounds familiar. Oh wait, I know what it’s from. That’s what we ND fans do with Ty. If we can’t use the argument that they are somebody else’s players, then neither can you.

Okay, you just went a little too far on this one, guys… Not all Buckeye fans like Nickelback .

yeah!
F10r!d4 iz eht SUX0RZ!!

Ed (#8) – the Big Televen tried that a few years back with ND. ND decided they wanted to keep all the bowl/NDBC TV contract money and write special rules for their BCS inclusion.

Buckeye fans would like to point to their record of never spelling "OHIO" incorrectly. Thank you.

Steve –
I thought we were more of an Ekoostik Hookah type crowd.

“Will this be before or after the NCAA sanctions? "

Isn’t South Carolina still on probation from Holtz? Why don’t you let the fans of the big boy programs discuss things. Perhaps you can mentally prepare yourself to watch the Autozone Bowl.

AllWhoYonder, you CAN use the excuse, when, you know, it’s RIGHT THERE in BLACK AND WHITE that the time frame under discussion was during another coach’s tenure.

Plus, this is big-time college football, and you’re dealing with adults… how can you ding a program (ANY program) that sends its players to the NFL, when it’s up to the player whether or not he wants to leave school early and go? I never understood that…

Hi-freaking-sterikal. Makes me want to drive out to the pig farm and cook up some meth.

Miller,
I certainly believe Tressel is a great coach.
Probably the best “big game” coach in the game today.

However:
http://www.centralohio.com/ohiostate/stories/20050526/football/2145095.html

Once is a coincidence, twice is a trend, three times is……?

Obviously, I wouldn’t place all the blame on Cheaty but there certainly seems to be what the NCAA likes to call “lack of institutional control.”

Miller, the problem with that argument is that you are putting it all on the impressioonable youth instead of having a coach take control of his program. By the same logic, I can say that Weis isn’t responsible for how any of the players recruited by Ty play for him since they are adults and are in control of their faculties, etc. No, as the coach, one of your RESPONSIBILITIES (I can use caps too!) is for the education of your STUDENT/athletes. Just because Tressel didn’t recruit them does not mean they are not his responsibility.

Gamecock Tony- only the NCAA actually investigated OSU with an anal probe and determined there was no “lack of institutional control”….But I’m sure your opinion is more important and exhaustively researched than the actual investigation, by the governing body that determines these things…

Orson, I hope those aren’t your speakers.

I laughed so hard I pooped in a styrofoam cooler.

GoBucks57, your “big boy” program was whipped by South Carolina 24-7 in 2000. Why don’t you go shovel your driveway or something?

GamecockTony – the Gators have more pot violations this season alone.

Not to make friends with the enemy here, Omar, but two years later they won a national championship…

OD,
I am not defending the Gators, nor my beloved Gamecocks, who could both probably be smacked by the NCAA if they chose to look deep enough.
I just laugh at the way schools and the NCAA choose to look the other way when the big boys are winning.
No matter what school or conference it is.

GameCockTony, I agree that it’s a bad list of transgressions. I’ve been a proponent all along of Coach coming down hard(er) on stupidity like a lot of this, particularly the stuff that involves drugs/drinking/driving and things like the Irizarry/Guilford nonsense. Allow me to knock wood — so far this year, the only thing I’ve heard of was a Summertime incident of one of the O-linemen DUI… since then, nothing.

On the plus side, Guilford, Haw, Skeete — all off the team, now. Irizarry, too, of course… I think he may be doing time for his stupidity.

I’d love to see this kind of thing stopped. I hope it DOESN’T take sanctions for that to happen. I didn’t think about the whole “lack of institutional control” angle. Have they hit a football team with that lately? There have been a few other fine opportunities for programs to get dinged with that.

Tony, I know you will try to incite no matter what. But that article for Buck fans points out how many are no longer on the team for their indiscretions. No program with that many testosterone laden lads is going to come out 100% trouble free (Blake Mitchell). Since all you want to do is flame, I think that is an indication that you don’t care what the consequences were, just that it fits your agenda. Since the NCAA gave a clean bill to the program, I’ll take their word.

I’m more than a little disappointed that Subcommandante Wayne forgot the “t” before the “OSU.”

#15,
 thanks for the ND reference, Murphey. References to ND make coach Weis happy, and much less likely to destroy Columbus in an epic fit of rage.

tOSU vs. Goters

The War of Jorts Aggression. Jorts capitals of north and south clash in this epic battle of college football supremacy!

“STUDENT/Athletes”…Now that’s a good one! AllWhoYonder, don’t tell me Myles has gotten to you, too!

Hey, AllWhoYonder, you missed my initial point entirely—a lot of the statistics I’ve been able to find on graduation and APR come directly from the Cooper era — 1996-1999 — way before Tressel got there.

And to follow up your other point…

“By the same logic, I can say that Weis isn’t responsible for how any of the players recruited by Ty play for him since they are adults and are in control of their faculties, etc. No, as the coach, one of your RESPONSIBILITIES (I can use caps too!) is for the education of your STUDENT/athletes. Just because Tressel didn’t recruit them does not mean they are not his responsibility…

That doesn’t make it any less true that these guys are adults and make choices every time they step into the public eye to A.) Represent their program well and play hard for whoever the coach is, or B.) Act like monkeys and throw shit.

Coaches come and coaches go. If the Domers that were seniors under Weis last year had decided they didn’t like him, he wasn’t a good coach, and they had no shot at accomplishing anything and decided to look out for themselves instead of the team, whose fault would that have been?

FWIW, I haven’t seen a man wearing jorts in Columbus for years….I also haven’t been to the Ohio State Fair in years, but this is totally a coincidence…totally…

Pants – I can say with certainty that jorts are alive and well at the Union County fair. Um, at least I saw other people wearing them.

A Buckeyes fan on here a few days ago said that he liked to smoke “OHydrO” — no one in the state really says that right? Is Ohio the reason the Kottonmouth Kings exist?!?! I pointing my finger!

It’s so hard…must type something….

Let’s just say that I have said all that can be said. I have also heard what can be heard. Here is the bottom line. People wouldn’t hate on tOSU if tOSU didn’t hate on every other program. People also wouldn’t hate if tOSU if it just fessed up and told the world that their program might not be the cleanest. I love the U because they don’t apologize or try to hide their thuggish ways. TOSU is always fighting that image and not fessing up to the fact they are dirtier than most programs. Maybe not the dirtiest, but where there is that much smoke, there has to be a fire.

If tOSU fans would just turn off the blind love for everything Tressel and take a look they would see that the program is indeed not as pure as they argue. That and admit that the game of football was not invented in Columbus. Oh and that it isn’t that cool to burn couches and flip cars just over a football team.

Do all of these and people might actually start to like you. Because the problem isn’t the quality of football or coaching.

Actually, it is because of this very website that I made a conscious decision never to wear jorts again myself. Thank you, Orson, for you are truly one of the heroes of this great nation.

Subcommandante Wayne,

Didn’t I see you in Lakeland, FL this past weekend, doing a little tOSU “recruting”? I could’ve sworn you were doling out jerseys from a styrofoam cooler on Memorial sometime Saturday morning.

In related news, Gator recruit Chris Rainey falls ill to Giardiasis and is expected to miss this weekend’s State Championship Game.

Good points, Miller. The funny thing is that we like to use the NCAA to our advantage when needed (e.g. they gave Ohio State a “clean bill” for infractions, etc.) but then make comments about the validity of calling them student-athletes.

nickelback are the tapioca of music.
but why would Ohesians like a canadian band?

and way to downshift the music nerdings of yesterday to nickelback. All of the subcomandante’s 13-year old fans will feel the lashings of our music snob rage!!! If you need me, i’ll be listening to Einsturtze Neubaten and Britney Spears records (ironically, of course) on a hand-wound Victrola

the nickelback thing is because they asked for tickets to the michigan/OSU game, and we basically said “uh, no.”

i think they tried to sugarcoat it by saying “we couldn’t even give tickets to the beatles blah blah blah” but with Jeter, LeBron, and that one country band from C-bus on the sidelines, i’m betting it’s more because Nickelback just happens to suck ass.

“I guess the data took longer to collect than it took to go to college”.

Riddle me this buckeye. How can figures on completion within six years be available any earlier than six years after entry? The data for the last year was only collectable this year.

Responsibility for grad rates does end at recruitment. tOSU figures for black athletes are so special (32% vs. 85% for whites) that Tressel could not possibly have been waiting for his own recruits to take action.

Here are this years BCS bowl matchups. Big surprise. The underdogs all graduate more students.

ND 100/90
LSU 73/37

Wake Forest 96/90
Louisville 65/47

Florida 91/74
tOSU 85/32

Michigan 91/50
Southern Cal 61/46

Boise State 76/50
Oklahoma 67/43

(ok. michigan is favored over U$C. The poodle was reloading this year)

crabapple buck,

hate to break it to you, but the NCAA shows graduation rates for the 1999/2000 freshman cohorts (ie, freshman starting in the 1999/2000 academic year). this falls right in line with “tressel’s reign” and is none too flattering. since entering school in 1999, only 32% of black football players at osu have graduated.

i must say that florida’s numbers are surprisingly high.

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know what the graduation rates for the normal student populations at those schools are over the same time period? We may think that it is terrible that only a third of a particular population graduate, but it seems to me that the relevant comparison is to similar students. According to this report: http://www.jbhe.com/features/50_blackstudent_gradrates.html , the graduation rates for black men across the country is 35%. That makes OSU’s numbers look not so bad, and some of the schools like UF and ND look absolutely remarkable.

“People also wouldn’t hate if tOSU if it just fessed up and told the world that their program might not be the cleanest.”

I’ve personally slept a lot easier since I just decided to accept that.. Any successful program is dirty as fuck and the vast majority of the players aren’t going to be Pete Carrol style humanitarians.

GoBucks57…no one is as much of a humanitarian as Pete Carroll. No one.

Oh, don’t sell yourself short, Orson. It is your humanitarian efforts that keep us informed of the Orgeron’s whereabouts. Without that valuable service, it is entirely possible that a countless number of us may have succumbed to an untimely death at the hands of O. You save lives, sir. Lives.

I knew this was going to get ugly, but damn.

“This situation is going to get out of control. It’s going to get out of control, and we’ll be lucky to live through it”

“Just out of curiosity, does anyone know what the graduation rates for the normal student populations at those schools are over the same time period?”

dunno about the same time period, but at OSU the graduation rates for everybody stands at 68%. keep in mind that until 10 or 15 years ago, Ohio State really was that stereotypical crappy-ass state school.

in recent years that’s changed quite a bit (and a good part of that can be attributed to Holbrook, no matter how much people bitch about her). now we’re in the top 20 public universities nationally. the average ACT score for this year’s freshman class was a 27, and 98% of them were in the top 50% of their graduating class.

so i guess if you focus on black football players, you could make a case for OSU being a bad school, but pretty much all evidence says otherwise.

“98% of them were in the top 50% of their graduating class”

This is a point of pride? Being in the top HALF of your HS class?

“This is a point of pride? Being in the top HALF of your HS class?”

about 70% of student were in the top 80%. happy?

Check today’s Onion:
BCS Determines No Team Worthy Of Facing Ohio State In Championship Game
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/56174

Also, this:
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/56180

Classic stuff.

Hey zzgator, just because all of the losers in your state just “decide” to go to FSU, it doesn’t mean you have to act all uppity.

you know, 60% of the time, these APR rates are accurate ALL the time

cue fellow domers chest-thumping in 3 . . . 2 . . . 1 . . .

It used to be that tOSU was every Ohio college applicant’s safety net school. tOSU is now second only to Miami (OH) in Ohio public university entrance requirements. They have come a long way, indeed.

Wouldn’t it be better to focus on what we have in common? Like we now hate Michican almost as much as you.

Michigan hates you back, baby.

One thing on which we can all agree is that Subcommandante Wayne is probably a student at OSU-Lima.

“One thing on which we can all agree is that Subcommandante Wayne is probably a student at OSU-Lima.”

now that’s just mean.

but yeah, probably.

Hey Yaaarrharhar, I’d forgotten that Karen Holbrook was the president at OSU now, which means you guys are getting sloppy thirds on her, since we (UF) had her first and then passed her off to UGA.

Seriously, I had a few interactions with her when I worked at UF and she is first rate and obviously she understands how big-time athletics works.

How can the Buckeyes feel so good about this game when they are 0-7 all time against the SEC in Bowl Games? In those games they’ve been spanked by an average of 27-14? Come get some Yankees.

War Damn Gators

Wow, The Stupid on this board is just amazing today….

How can OSU feel good about the game when they are 0-7 vs the SEC all time in bowl games? Uhhh..maybe because prior teams with prior players and prior coaches playing different opponents at different schools with prior players and prior coaches just may, may mind you, have absolutely nothing to do with how OSU will fare in this bowl game against this opponent?? Maybe…

And WOW, who would have thunk that uber-expensive, small, private, Catholic schools graduate a higher % of both the general student population and those in the athletic department than a large state school with 50,000 people? I mean, who would expect that people shilling out $30K a year for school would attend college with a likelier probablilty of graduating? It’s just too difficult for me to comprehend…

Gotta love graduation rate smack.

So basically what you’re saying is ignore the fact that Ohio State has never been good enough to compete in the SEC before, ignore the fact that they only played two legitimate teams this year, ignore the fact that Woody Hayes, John Cooper, and Jim Tressel have all been stymied and generally mowed down like invading marauding Yankee troups at the sunken road at Sharpsburg by the SEC EVERY SINGLE TIME they’ve tried to play them. This time will be different? It amazes me how quickly you can get an Ohio State fan to admit their tradition is meaningless…

Y’all aren’t ready for the SEC. Granted I would rather have LSU (who is just too damn good) or Auburn (who just can’t lose to top 10 opponents) than the Gators but I’ll take Urban Sprawl over the Luckeyes.

Andrew @#55 Jim Tressel took over in 2001, meaning his first recruiting class was February 2001. All of the players from 1996-2000 were recruited by John Cooper, who at the end of his run had “lost control” of the team. As the years go on, I believe you will find a vast improvement in all of our numbers as JT has been more stringent on academics than JC was.

I know I have looked at who is still on the team as seniors from the recruiting class and the attrition rate is always startling. Some is due to injury, some to being kicked off, some due to academics, some to transfer. Since our about to be Heisman winning black QB has ALREADY GRADUATED, that should help the stats the next time they are published. I believe that Urban may be along the same lines as time goes on. He doesn’t seem to want to suffer fools either.

Try a little research the next time you rant. Figures lie and liars figure. It reminds me that you can make of statistics what you want if you don’t want to consider the human element.

Yes, Stephen, I am going to ignore that Woody Hayes and John Cooper lost to the SEC. I am also going to ignore that Jim Tressel’s 2001 team with Steve Freaking Bellisari at QB lost to South Carolina in his first season. I am also going to ignore that Miami in 2002 punked both Florida and Tennessee (I hear they are in the EPIC SEC) easily before we beat them for the NC…

77 – SEC homers are my favorite. Shouldn’t you be spouting off on an Atlanta based radio call in show or posting this on Rivals.com?

You also forgot to mention that Ohio State is slow.

Yes, there is no way the plodding, heavy-footed receiving corps or defensive unit of tOSU can compete with that SEC speed. Good Lord, we’ll be lucky to keep them from scoring a bajillion points on us…

Funny…big 10(11) homers are MY favorite.

Dave: You’ll have to stand in line for that, Buddy. It’s a long one, too.

Oh no y’all are fast. I’ve seen enough to know that not all Big 10 teams are slow. And I don’t think they’ll score a bajillion on you. But y’all won’t score a bajillion on them either.

All Big 10 teams are 71-85 against all SEC teams since 1920. 25-38 since 1985. Since Tressel landed you’re a more respectable 8-11 Of course we’re homers. Y’all can’t compete down here. It also explains why Buckeyes don’t like numbers. Subjectively you’re the greatest program ever!

I will grant tOSU academic acheivement. The school in general has gotten much better and requirements for acceptance are much higher.

It will just take time to shake the idiot school identity. Probably about 20 years.

But since the BCS started the Big 10 is 11-10 vs SEC schools in bowl games. They definitely couldn’t compete.

zzgator – I don’t know what Big Ten homers you’re talking about. It’s not like there’s a shitload of Minnesota or Iowa fans talking smack about Florida. I’m not going to sit here and argue that the Big Ten was better than the SEC either. Outside of OSU and Michigan (and possibly Wisconsin, who knows? Fuck if they ever play anyone OOC). the Big Ten was shit this year. Have you seen Penn State for god’s sake, they’re awful.

Christ I don’t know why I’m arguing this; I have too much spare time I guess. Of those 7 losses 5 were John Coopers. This game is being played in Arizona, what’s the SEC’s record outside the Southeast? Cooper’s record against the SEC won’t have anymore to do with the game than Cooper’s undefeated teams losing to underdog Michigan teams had a couple of weeks ago.

GoBucks…I live in Florida…I’m SURROUNDED by Big 10(11) homers…who won’t GO HOME.

I thought everybody originally from Florida moved to Atlanta after college?

You can’t blame them for moving to Florida. The abundant strip malls, trailer parks, and rednecks make it just like home, only the golf courses are open year round.

No…some of us move to Los Angeles, but we are forced to return to SEC country before the Pac 10 drains the passion and enthusiasm for college sports right out of us.

Great onion links dave(#64).

I especially like “Every coach that I know voted for Ohio State in the coaches’ poll, or at least had them second after their own team”

and

“Fox network has announced that in place of the game on January 8, it will broadcast four hours of Buckeye players working out in preparation for the 2007 NFL draft.”

It really is mind boggling how many people from Ohio there are down here.

They seem nice enough, although I am tired of hearing how Cedar Point is better than Disney. I swear, it’s how every Ohioan (is that how you say it?) introduces themself. It’s not like I ever claimed Disney was a good theme park anyway. Just let it go!

Oh, and I hate the word “pop”

“Oh, and I hate the word "pop"”

LMAO!!

Outside of Ohio, OSU gets more fundraising dollars from the west coast of Florida (the Sarasota-Naples corridor) than any other place in the country. Last I heard they still maintained a development (fundraising) office down there. It appears the financially successful alumni from OSU prefer Florida.

OK, fine, I’ll step up and talk smack about the Gators: Iowa thumped your ass in the Outback Bowl a few years ago and we shoulda beat you last year if it wasn’t for a blind official.

Woulda coulda shoulda.

Iowa had a team this year?

Stephen, I think you’re on to something. We just can’t compete “down there.” How about you SEC folks come up north of the Mason Dixon line and play a game in January that isn’t a de facto home game for you just one time?

Since the formation of the BCS (1998), the Big Ten and SEC are split virtually dead even in bowl play. Teams from the two conferences have faced each other 21 times in bowls, with the split being 11-10 in favor of the Big Ten. 17 of those bowls have been played in the state of Florida, to go with 3 in Nashville and 1 game in New Orleans. 12 of the games were decided by one possession (6-6 W/L conference split), 6 games were decided by a FG or less (3-3 W/L conference split), and 3 games have gone to overtime. Many of the games have featured some unbelievable finishes, particularly Iowa’s last two versus Florida and LSU. The cumulative score of those 21 bowls is dead even: 558-558, or an average game score of ~27-27.

Every conference has its ups and down. IMHO, the Big Ten vs. SEC is a push, though I believe the breaks probably favor the SEC schools given virtually all of these bowl games occur in the deep south, such as the traditional bowl pairings for the Outback and Capital One Bowls which are both played in Florida.

Hey, you guys have a bowl tie-in (Motor City) right in the middle of Big Ten country, and your schools can’t wait to find a way to wiggle out of it every year.

Right on D, though in truth, most of the EDSBS posters aren’t the typical homers shipoopiing on other boards atop a high horse. It’s good to see Orson and Stranko not making fun of tOSU or the Big 10, but at the tOSU trolls that typically flock to other boards and post whackjob anonymous comments if the original thread doesn’t suck tOSU’s dick. Bucknuts crave recognition it seems, probably because so many of their fans (and thus posters) did not actually go to school there.

I am curious. Orson, is this board more heavily moderated than others? The trollish, baiting behavior always seems less intense and frequent.

this is cool

jonsi,

My guess is that the typical message board trolls don’t respond because they don’t get most of the jokes. There’s an element of self-selection in who chooses to enjoy Orson’s and Stranko’s wit.

I’d love to go up and play y’all if it didn’t involve ice and snow in January.

The words everyone hates to hear: Congratulations on the good season, here are your tickets to Boise.

There’s only one school in Ohio that has a winning record against the SEC in bowl games and it ain’t tOSU.

DevilGrad, the Motor City Bowl pairing is for something ridiculous like the Big Ten’s #8 teams versus the MAC’s #2 team. I believe Northewestern, in 2003, is the only Big Ten school to ever even qualify. Big Ten #8 and bowl eligible at 6-6, the Wildcats lost by four to a very good Bowling Green team — the one that Urban Meyer had assembled.

My point was that if “home field” were that important to Big Ten schools, you’d offer the Motor City a better team (say, second or third pick) — and George Perles would kiss both cheeks and thank you for it.

I always figured that if my stuff all made it up, then this place wasn’t moderated much at all.

One point on tOSU vs the SEC. When tOSU has a really good team they have gone to the Rose Bowl and faced a Pac 10 team. That factor is going to skew the stats vs the SEC.

OC Phil, and when the SEC has had a very good team it has typically gone to the Sugar Bowl and not faced a Big 10 team either. The SEC/Big 10 matchups are almost always between the 2nd and 3rd place teams from the conferences (think Outback Bowl). I think what the BCS stats tell us is that between the 2nd and 3rd level teams in both conferences there is not much of a difference.

“One point on tOSU vs the SEC. When tOSU has a really good team they have gone to the Rose Bowl and faced a Pac 10 team. That factor is going to skew the stats vs the SEC.”

and the really good SEC teams went to the Sugar Bowl. How many times has tOSU played a SEC team in the Sugar Bowl? Once.

1977 – Bama 35 tOSU 6 oops!

Sex panther colgone…50% of the time, it works all the time…

tigercpa, way to duplicate above post #66

and brian, i’m going to be totally honest, that smells like pure gasoline

I reffer to soft drinks as “pop”. I find it hilarious that the rest of the country is baffled and upset at the use of the word.

Wayne drinks an ass load of pop

No doubt folks in Texas and California have some odd words too. Pop is definitely a northern border word.

(drink canada dry)

I thought you guys pronounced it “paaaaaaaap”

pop = nails on blackboard

(drink canada dry)

Tried that one time when I was up there — with less than fully successful results.

I do like the old “sex in a canoe” joke, though.

OSU maybe 0-7 against the SEC in the bowl game, but Tressel pwns Lloyd Carr, who is 4-2 against the mighty SEC in bowl games:

96 L Alabama
98 W Arkansas
99 W Alabama
00 W Auburn
01 L Tennessee
02 W Florida

Who would win? 11 Troy Smiths vs. da Bears?