Delayed but hot off the Hipcast: Michael Lewis, author of The Blind Side, in part two of the EDSBS interview. We discuss how the Orgeron is a bit like Shakespeare, The Importance of Being Mike Leach, and other fascinating topics.
You may read/listen to part one here. Or you can buy The Blind Side: Evolution of a Game on Amazon, which would correlate the strength of viral marketing via brokeass blogger interviews and increased booksales. Which would be nice.
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OS: Ed Orgeron is in the book, and he’s a very large presence both literally and figuratively. What’s it like being in the room doing an interview with someone whose dialogue is so colorful you have to write it in upper-case letters.
ML: (Laughs.) Well, I’m from Lousiana, and spent a lot of my youth in coonass country–in the bayous–duck hunting. And so I understand him, though it takes a while. Listening to him…he puts on a bit of a show being interviewed on the way to the lockerroom during games. He can speak in a way that’s a little more understandable. When you come at him fresh…I don’t know if you’ve ever been to see an English actor do Shakespeare, but it takes a little while before your ear gets acclimated and you can understand what the actors are saying.

Like Shakespeare…but scarier.
OS: About 9 minutes, I know what you’re saying.
ML: That’s the way he is. The problem is he doesn’t talk for 9 minutes–he talks for two, or maybe thirty seconds. You never get acclimated unless you know what you’re listening for.
I actually find him delightful. I really like him. And I thought he’s basically an honest character, straight. Now, if you ask me if I were running a football program, would I hire him as a head coach? Probably–in fact, he’d probably be fine at it.
But what he really is is potentially a great defensive coach. I would take the offense away and put it in the hands of someone completely different. His mind is not an offensive mind.
And I don’t think they’ve done that properly there. They have had offensive coordinators, but they don’t have the right guy. He’s either not independent or strong willed to say with is a separate operation that the coach has nothing to do with. That’s what they need to do there, I think.
OS: Speaking of coaches with one little concern for one side of the ball…this brings us to Mike Leach, another one of your subjects you’ve profiled.
That article–in case you don’t know–has circulated its way around the college football blogosphere and become part of the vernacular.
ML: Is it?
OS: It is. It’s very common for us to post something about Mike Leach and someone will post “YARR” because of his fascination with pirates.
ML: You know what’s funny about that? When you turn on their games now, you see all these students dressed up as pirates. I thought this might be my greatest achievement as a writer. He might singlehandedly end up changing the mascot of the university. And one day when you turn on the Red Raiders, there’s going to be a pirate on the back of that horse when the Red Raider comes out before the game.
But I didn’t realize that the article had gone around the blog like that.
OS: There’s actually a student section in Lubbock that refers to themselves as “Mike Leach’s Pirate School.” The eyepatches, the plastic swords…without knowing it, you helped to popularize the phenomenon.
Interviewing him…is he really just…that out there in real life?
ML: Look–if you were interviewing him, and it would take you a while to appreciate it, it’s not like he shows up to work naked. It’s not that.
OS: Are you sure about that?
ML: Yes, I’m sure about that. (more…)