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PAT WHITE ROARS

Ever watched a marathon on television? It usually ends with two runners, one of whom is almost certainly Kenyan, ripping off five minute paces at the 24 mile mark. (Watch it sometime--it makes your lungs sear a little just watching it.) Then, at one unspoken moment, the one who has more gas in the tank just looks back, makes a decision, and then suddenly goes faster despite having just run those 24 miles. The other person doesn't exactly give up, but a visible spirit-crushing shudder goes through them as the recede into the distance.

In the third quarter of a potential shootout last night, that's precisely what West Virginia did to Pitt: Catch me, motherfucker. Pitt had one half of disciplined run D in them, and once White started reading and running, the outcome played out like twisted math for Pitt. He looked like Woody Dantzler on crank last night, running for 200 and passing for 200 on a defense reduced to near tears by the last dregs of the fourth quarter.

If that wasn't bad enough, Pat White also mocked Pitt's lame, piped-in roar on camera. You deserve it, Pitt, for using the lamest tricks of a.m. drive-time radio to pump up your crowd. Unless you play that clip of Don King saying "Testicles are acceptable" that they use all the time on 790 here in Atlanta. That shit is always funny.

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I believe I speak for everyone from my home state when I say, Puck Fitt. If only the now-without-kung-fu-grip Slaton hadn’t shown up two weeks ago the Mounties would be in the title hunt.

by Hokie Andrew - Crosses Ocean, Lives to tell the tale... on Nov 17, 2006 9:41 AM EST reply actions  

I am partial to Mayhem in the AM/Paulie’s “Oof, Madonn’!”

by rob on Nov 17, 2006 9:44 AM EST reply actions  

That clip made me laugh outloud…

I was at the game. I know that WVU fans have a bit of a “reputation” for being “rude”, but allow me to recap the chat I had last night walking to the stadium…

Obnoxious Pitt Fan: My high school diploma is worth more than your degree!
CBG: (to my 3 female friends) Do you hear something?
OPF: Go Hoooooooooooooome, Mountaineers!
CBG: I really think someone is talking to us.
OPF: YOu couldn’t even beat Louisville… we’re going to kick their ass… after we send you home crying!
CBG (now yelling): I’m sorry, I only listen to people who are nationally ranked. Now FUCK OFF!
OPF: Fuck you… you suck…
CBG: Good one.

Stay classy, Pittsburgh.

by CouchBurnin'Girl on Nov 17, 2006 10:02 AM EST reply actions  

please stop listening to 790.
Well, 680 sucks too.

Damn this crappy town’s AM sports talk.

by Rabid Badger on Nov 17, 2006 10:06 AM EST reply actions  

That is definitely better than claiming to be back like cooked crack.

by Doug on Nov 17, 2006 10:12 AM EST reply actions  

Spreadshirt better get that damn burning couch shirt to my house today. We will not be upstaged by WVU in couch-burning expertise.

by tbmd96 on Nov 17, 2006 10:16 AM EST reply actions  

Perhaps White wasn’t mocking the piped-in roar…maybe it was some type of mating call/ritual for Ms. Andrews.

by Aerobab on Nov 17, 2006 10:19 AM EST reply actions  

This is one reason I like college football… We make a lot of noise about these games, but sometimes it’s nice to realize that these are basically kids. Really, can you imagine Tom Brady on the sideline of an NFL game making “roar” noises to make fun of his opponent’s stadium?

Great stuff…

by Brad Warbiany on Nov 17, 2006 10:21 AM EST reply actions  

Due to a home-field advantage, Pitt doesn’t even have the excuse of lungfuls of couch smoke to explain their second half collapse. Perhaps a half-time spread of tainted perogies led to team-wide side stich.

by Philly Gator on Nov 17, 2006 10:23 AM EST reply actions  

I prefer listening to Dingo and The Baby

by irishoutsider on Nov 17, 2006 10:24 AM EST reply actions  

I am now a huge Pat White fan. I find myself constantly mocking the horrible ‘cheers’ that certain teams make. Now, if we could just get Chad Johnson to make fun of the Vikings ‘horn’ on TV, the world will be a better place.

by Ryan on Nov 17, 2006 10:25 AM EST reply actions  

Maybe he should try and roar like that after three quaters against a real tiger, maybe a bengal tiger in louisiana. Pitt’s D is a joke.

by Bryan on Nov 17, 2006 10:27 AM EST reply actions  

No doubt Slaton and White are damn good. But let’s not go over the top. They were playing against a pathetic Pitt team. As WVU showed against Louisville, their defense is weak. WVU is going to get smoked IF they make it into a BCS game. I suspect that Rutgers will shut them down.

If you put Florida’s defense and WVU’s offense together, you’d have one helluva team. On the other hand, if you put Florida’s offense and WVU’s defense together, the team likely wouldn’t crack .500. You could probably substitute ND in for WVU and get a similar result. Fortunately for ND, I think ND is slightly more balanced than either FLA or WVU. Plus we have Quinn – without whom this season would be completely different.

OK – I’ll start dodging the projectiles now …

by nd1990 on Nov 17, 2006 10:31 AM EST reply actions  

[chuck!—whoosh…]

ND1990, you dodged the first one. We know there’s an empty bottle of Jack around here somewhere…we did have Lemmy over for dinner, after all…

by Orson Swindle on Nov 17, 2006 10:37 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah, but if you put ND’s offense with ND’s defense, you get stomped by Michigan at home and need amazing comebacks to beat UCLA and Michigan State.

by tbmd96 on Nov 17, 2006 10:45 AM EST reply actions  

Pat White would have made a helluva safety in the SEC.

by AUAlum on Nov 17, 2006 10:45 AM EST reply actions  

Bryan—perfect example of the type of LSU fan I don’t like. The thread had NOTHING to do with LSU at all, yet you felt that you had to come in and throw in your two cents about how “he should try and roar like that after three quaters against a real tiger, maybe a bengal tiger in louisiana.” Or maybe he should try and roar for three quarters against a real tiger. In a zoo. In Cambodia. Seriously, get over yourself.

by RaginCajunRebel on Nov 17, 2006 10:47 AM EST reply actions  

Considering some of the ass-clowns I’ve seen masquerading as quarterbacks in the SEC, I’d say Pat White would be a damn good quarterback there, too.

by Boris Stongkoff on Nov 17, 2006 11:03 AM EST reply actions  

Hey Bryan – you got served!

by Enrico Pollazzo on Nov 17, 2006 11:05 AM EST reply actions  

And it’s not like LSU didn’t have a chance to sign him. If you would have given him a shot at quarterback instead of wide receiver, JaMarcus Russell would be the greatest clip board holder in college football history.

by Johnny on Nov 17, 2006 11:06 AM EST reply actions  

Not LSU fan, SEC fan. Give some love for the SEC, I am tired of watching these high school football games…oops Big East football games on Thursday Night. Everyday should be saturday for college football!!

by Bryan on Nov 17, 2006 11:09 AM EST reply actions  

I’m not so sure I agree with JaMarcus Russell being the “greatest clip board holder in college football history”.

Sure, in blowouts, he’d send the plays in with aplomb. However, in big games, rest assured, he’d put it on the turf at least 2-3 times.

by Philly Gator on Nov 17, 2006 11:13 AM EST reply actions  

okay, okay, I hail from a school which has utilized the “weeeweawkwaroo” – and I loved it -

Pitt’s panther was always lamer – of course we’ve made strides with our mascot and logos in the past 10 years or so to catch up -

All of that said – White was so cute with his meowing – I want that to be our new lion roar.

by PSUgirl on Nov 17, 2006 11:14 AM EST reply actions  

Hey Brian – How’ed the SEC champs do in last year’s Sugar Bowl against a high school team?

by rocket screen on Nov 17, 2006 11:15 AM EST reply actions  

Thread jack, sort of -

Larry Coker earns almost 1.9 million in salary (not including bonuses and other income)!
Check out how much your coach earns -

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2006-11-16-coaches-salaries-cover_x.htm

by AUgrad on Nov 17, 2006 11:15 AM EST reply actions  

[now dressed in full body armour] Orson – I’m hoping the empty bottle of Jack is still impairing your aim.

tbmd96 – I do not thin’ your post means what you thin’ it means. The Michigan game was an aberration. I’m not saying ND should have won, but ND is not as bad as that game indicates – any more than Michigan is as bad as their pathetic showing against a 3 – 6 Ball State team (now 4-7) would indicate. The fact that ND is 9-1 and has put together two “amazing comebacks” as you put it, demonstrates that they are in fact a good team. Bad teams don’t come back – they lay down and die.

To get back to the point of the EDSBS post, WVU is a good team, but the fact that they kicked Pitt around does not indicate to me that they are as good as the rest of the teams in the top 10.

by nd1990 on Nov 17, 2006 11:18 AM EST reply actions  

BTW – the tOSU/UM hype has apparently gotten to one man:

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061117/NEWS99/61117011

by GamecockTony on Nov 17, 2006 11:19 AM EST reply actions  

The WVU/Rutgers game should be fun. Rutgers defense doesn’t wear down like that …they actually seem to get stronger as the game goes on this year (amazing what a little depth and a good running attack can do for a defense).

Of course… the RU defense hasn’t had to chase down anything resembling White and Slaton yet, either, so who knows how they’ll fair…

by Dave K. on Nov 17, 2006 11:22 AM EST reply actions  

The best part is that his teammates didn’t even bat an eye – as if a growling Pat White is an everyday occurence.

by NoleinTexas on Nov 17, 2006 11:24 AM EST reply actions  

I like how the game commentators pretend not to notice.

by Orangeblood on Nov 17, 2006 11:27 AM EST reply actions  

yeah nole in tx, it actually appears that White is doing it for self consumption, like how the Badgersbadgersbadgers thing has been restuck in my head today.

by rob on Nov 17, 2006 11:34 AM EST reply actions  

I played football with him in high school. He knows my name. Second hand celebrity!!!

by Duh Duh D on Nov 17, 2006 11:52 AM EST reply actions  

Pat White sounded like an old crow to me.

by Harvey Wireman on Nov 17, 2006 11:54 AM EST reply actions  

I love how college football fans can bash a team like WVU. Did you see how f’ing fast Slaton and white are!? I will say that PITT isn’t very good, but come on! Those guys are ridiculous! WVU can play with anyone in the country and win. I’m not saynig that they are going to beat every team, but they are damn good and can beat anybody.

by Odell 51 on Nov 17, 2006 11:54 AM EST reply actions  

I hated UGA about as much as Clemson, but if you think for a moment UGA even gave a shit about getting up for the Sugar Bowl last year you’ve lost your marbles.

by Jim on Nov 17, 2006 11:55 AM EST reply actions  

34 sounds like the usual lame-o SEC excuse for getting beat in a bowl game.

by rocket screen on Nov 17, 2006 11:58 AM EST reply actions  

Bryan, maybe someday West Virginia will good enough to play an actual team from the SEC. But I sure wouldn’t want to play your conference Champions or anything in a BCS bowl. Probably down south where it would be ahome game for you guys. We’d get blown out for sure, wouldn’t we Bryan? You guys are so fuckin’ awesome in the SEC. It’s what we all aspire to.

by MD Mountaineer on Nov 17, 2006 12:00 PM EST reply actions  

UGA didn’t care about a BCS game on national television at home after a year playing for the right to play in a BCS bowl? It wasn’t like they were playing in the Independence Bowl on Dec. 14th.

by letsplaytummysticks on Nov 17, 2006 12:01 PM EST reply actions  

Why don’t SEC teams just create their own bowl games so they can play each other, since no other conference can produce a team worthy of being on the same field as them.

by steve on Nov 17, 2006 12:17 PM EST reply actions  

Not being able to get up for the Sugar Bowl is a pretty lame excuse. As for White and Slaton being so fast that the ’Neers can play with anyone…Huh? Last I checked, there are 11 players to a side. Sure, WVU can put a few points up on anyone because even against an athletic, talented, well-coached defense White and Slaton are going to break a few runs for a score or two. Problem is, if said athletic, talented, well-coached defense has any kind of talent on the offensive side of the ball, WVU is going to get beat because of their inability to play defense.

by JohnWA on Nov 17, 2006 12:28 PM EST reply actions  

It is easy to see how Georgia would not get excited for the Sugar Bowl, you know, since they’ve been so many times over the past 20 years, it is practically a birthright….

by Ltrain on Nov 17, 2006 12:31 PM EST reply actions  

Love the vitriol from the WVU fans…Not a single one will step back and admit that their conference is maybe, just maybe, a bit feeble when compared to the other BCS conferences.

by Enrico Pollazzo on Nov 17, 2006 12:32 PM EST reply actions  

Shout out to Wood Dantzler!!! Huzzah!!!! Woulda been a good pro if he wasn’t so damned short.

by Willy Mac on Nov 17, 2006 12:35 PM EST reply actions  

Love the vitriol from the WVU fans…Not a single one will step back and admit that their conference is maybe, just maybe, a bit feeble when compared to the other BCS conferences

Maybe SEC fans should do the same thing. After all, don’t the Big East and SEC each have three top ten teams right now? Tearing down the Big East is just a crap way of avoiding the fact that WVU stomped the SEC champs last winter.

by Sam on Nov 17, 2006 12:47 PM EST reply actions  

Enrico, I have no problem at all admitting the BE is not as solid as the SEC. But we’re not nearly as bad as some high school kids on here think. You have to prove it on the field and the BE has done that, given the chance. So to turn it back to you, “not a single one will step back and admit that their conference is maybe, just maybe, a bit” got a stick up their ass “when compared to the other BCS conferences.”

by MD Mountaineer on Nov 17, 2006 12:55 PM EST reply actions  

You got part of right, Enrico – the “not a single one will step back” part.

by rocket screen on Nov 17, 2006 1:03 PM EST reply actions  

MD, I will give WVU, the redbirds, and the red knights credit for being solid. But I will not change my opinion of the Big East. Y’all got hosed when VT, BC, and Miami fled. Pitt and Syracuse need to return to prominence (not just a one year run, a la Pitt 2004), for Big East football to be more legit. Its an 8 team conference, so, to me, until at least half of the teams are consistently feared – your conference will be the BCS red-headed stepchild.

by Enrico Pollazzo on Nov 17, 2006 1:21 PM EST reply actions  

And exactly how many National Championships have Big East Conference teams won over the last 30 years? One Sugar Bowl doesn’t bring you up to that level. Just cause I hit a hole-in-one at the local par-3 doesn’t mean I’m ready for the PGA Tour.

by white-boned demon on Nov 17, 2006 1:27 PM EST reply actions  

I wish everyone would drop the Georgia thing. It was a great game, but it is over. Slaton, White, and O’Doyle Rule!

by Johnny on Nov 17, 2006 1:43 PM EST reply actions  

Sorry, Enrico, sounds you were a member of the UGA team who GOT BEAT…sorry about your luck, but if you put down the BE—you’re taking on some big boys. And if you have looked at the headlines—VT, BC, and Miami are all not faring very well in the SEC—maybe too many big-headed teams and not enough heart????

by WVU Girl on Nov 17, 2006 1:44 PM EST reply actions  

it was pretty obvious that georgia thought they were getting a cake walk, they just didn’t realize the path went over their pathetic bodies.

the SEC is by far the most overrated conference

by clashmore mike on Nov 17, 2006 1:52 PM EST reply actions  

Current Standings Conferences: per the AP
Top 25 Average Ranking #Teams
Big 11 – 15 5 3
Big 12 – 51 17 3
SEC – 54 10.8 5
ACC – 117 19.5 6
PAC 10 – 21 10.5 2
Big East – 25 8.33 3
Other – 42 14 3

So overall strength? Big 11 has top quality. ACC has top quantity but lowest quality. Big east has two fewer top 25 teams but averages 2 spots ahead of the SEC. This is completely meaningless, I know, but take your heads out of your deviated rectums and look at the numbers.

It’s more fun to say my team is great and your team sucks raptor ****. I don’t think anyone in the country is going to say the SEC sucks, but as a resident of the Nations Capital I can say, I don’t see it. Sure I’ve only been back in the country since 95, but y’all ain’t done squat to earn that moniker.

Now I just did a quick websearch, so I am sure I am looking at the “wrong” data, but it lists conference strengths as follows.

Pac 10
Big East
Southeastern
Big Ten
Atlantic COast
Big 12
Independents
Mountain West
etc. Since I don’t think anyone cares about my own little Patriot League

So to the Big East? You all did stink, but it is obvious to this impartial viewer that you are making huge strides. That doesn’t mean I don’t think the Eers/ville/burgh/Rutgers would lose to many of the top 25.

To to SEC? Everyone being just as good as you doesn’t mean you’re all good, it might mean that ya’ll are just aright. I might say that my fiancee is as hot as Jessica Alba, but until I get em both in my bed, we just won’t know.

by okhrana on Nov 17, 2006 1:53 PM EST reply actions  

Don’t forget one of those slow Big Ten teams, Wisconsin, throttled another top SEC team in the Capital One bowl last year.

by Jason on Nov 17, 2006 2:38 PM EST reply actions  

I’ll take the Big East this year over the ACC and Big 12.

by Jason on Nov 17, 2006 2:41 PM EST reply actions  

VT, BC, and Miami are all not faring very well in the SEC
They’re in the ACC, WVU Girl, and nobody’s saying the ACC is any good.

My conference (Big XII) sucks ass, and that’s all I know so far. As far as the other ones go, I guess we’ll have to wait till bowl time to figure it out.

By the way, I root for WVa because this thing you call a ‘running offense’ (?) is strange and foreign to me. I haven’t seen it in about 6 years from either of my teams (ND and Iowa State).

by j.j. on Nov 17, 2006 2:42 PM EST reply actions  

Seems like teams ought to be judged on their merits season to season, instead of including the team’s history. SEC fans are frequently incapable of this, believing previous success frees them from any responsibility to critically examine their beloved conference year-to-year. I don’t think anybody here is arguing that the Big East is the best conference in America; rather, some of us are arguing that the Big East is better than most people (read: SEC fans) give it credit for. Meanwhile, SEC fans are claiming that they’ve got the best football in the country, even if the season’s biggest game isn’t likely to involve an SEC team. (And that’s assuming that a game tops the hype for this weekend’s Michigan-Ohio State game.)

Point is, SEC fans have plenty to dish out. Send it back their way however, and the intense whining, excuse making, and buck passing begins.

by Sam on Nov 17, 2006 2:42 PM EST reply actions  

I went to WVU, am a Mountaineer fan, and am more than willing to admit the Big East is pretty sucky. That said, I can’t decide whether I want WVU to beat Rutgers for a BCS bid or Rutgers to beat WVU and win out, just for the ability to ask a friend when I’m sitting in a bar in my 60’s “Remember that year the Knights went undefeated? When the Mountaineer mascot blew his brains out at centerfield in Morgantown when they beat WVU?”

by Lawbot on Nov 17, 2006 2:45 PM EST reply actions  

WVU Girl speaks the truth. We’ve notched up a piddling zero wins in SEC play this year, same as Miami and BC.

by Hokie Andrew - Crosses Ocean, Lives to tell the tale... on Nov 17, 2006 2:47 PM EST reply actions  

Let’s just compromise. All conferences suck. Even the SEC, where Kentucky is apparently (am I reading this right?) second in the SEC-East.

by j.j. on Nov 17, 2006 3:31 PM EST reply actions  

Can’t we all just agree that we want Okhrana to succeed on his mission to get his fiance and Alba in bed together? godspeed, brother.

by Ltrain on Nov 17, 2006 3:51 PM EST reply actions  

#59
Even the SEC, where Kentucky is apparently (am I reading this right?) second in the SEC-East.

Then according to this statement Big East sucks the most because Rutgers is at the top as we speak.

But I do agree that conference rankings should be based on the current season and not the history of the conference. Atleast that will shut up the Bama-fans.

by AUgrad on Nov 17, 2006 5:09 PM EST reply actions  

  1. - Finally a campaign issue I can support. A Jessica Alba + my fiance in bed platform can’t lose. Get me Carville and Rove on the phone stat.

by Hokie Andrew - Crosses Ocean, Lives to tell the tale... on Nov 17, 2006 5:20 PM EST reply actions  

Yea i’m a pitt fan and our d sucks i know (luckily its hoops season). With all of that out of the way, did anyone see that punt return? Herbstriet was calling it the play of the year, and im probably biased but watching derek kinder level 2 mountaineers in one pure slobber knocking hit even made me smile watching it after the game was over.

by John on Nov 17, 2006 6:16 PM EST reply actions  

No one noticed the absolute hilarity of an OM Rebel fan talking trash to a fan of LSU? Ole Miss, who is about to be skullraped by LSU tomorrow night. Ole Miss, who fired Cutcliffe so they could hire that clown Orgeron and have a terrifically worse record. Rebel fans running smack on their Daddy, LSU, is one of the most preposterously funny things I have ever seen.

by Joshua on Nov 17, 2006 6:42 PM EST reply actions  

How did this thread devolve into Conference Schedule nonsense. Back to the funniest clip in months.

Notice the mewling keeps going during the Pitt sideline diagram play?

In the production truck:
Exec Producer: Audio to Shelley, over audio and second camera on WVU sidelines.
Engineer: Check.

Exec Producer: Did someone let a cat in the truck?
Spotter: That’s Pat White.
Exec Producer: Huh. So it is.
Engineer2: READY FOR CAMERA 3 ON Pitt sideline. In 5,4
Exec Producer: LEAVE THE GODDAMN AUDIO ON CAMERA 2.
Engineer2: 1, Camera 3, video only go!

by dogtown gator on Nov 17, 2006 7:41 PM EST reply actions  

AUalum why bash Rutgers b/c Kentucky sucks. RU is 6th in the BCS. Common opponent for RU/KU is Louisville. RU won 28-25. KU lost 28-59. I see where they are similar.

by letsplaytummysticks on Nov 17, 2006 9:08 PM EST reply actions  

Ole Miss was gonna get skull F*cked by LSU huh? What happened?

LSU is terribly overrated. Not worthy of a top 10 ranking. Beat someone that is worth somthing….please.

by Chris on Nov 19, 2006 5:12 PM EST reply actions  

Rutgers had a nice showing against the bearcats. I do however love the air guitar their fans do, it is extremely intimidating!!!!

by Bryan on Nov 20, 2006 11:31 AM EST reply actions  

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