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WHERE RICH RODRIGUEZ AND BOBBY PETRINO AREN'T GOING

One possible destination for both Petrino and Rodriguez--the two coaches competing in the Resume Bowl on Thursday night--that keeps popping up is Florida State. Why? Bobby Bowden, short of stunning and quick death, isn't going anywhere, so firmly entrenched is he in Tallahassee. Boosters haven't been able to get rid of his nakely inept son at offensive coordinator, so why anyone thinks he's going anywhere will be left to the realm of fever-dream hallucination.


Will not go to Florida State, but will likely go.

In fact, the emergence of Xavier Lee at quarterback--who can take Jeff Bowden's Crayola plays, fight out of their collapse with his scrambling ability, and then either run or make something happen off the broken play--will only bolster Bowden's case for Jeffy the Unready.
Thus cue the sequence: Miami takes Petrino, Rodriguez either stays and gets better facilities and more money at Morgantown, or takes big money to go to UNC or elsewhere. Realistically, Florida State will miss out entirely on the duo and keep trucking toward an eventual Kevin Steele/Bowden Nepotism pick successor.

And as bravoed as the Big East has been thus far in the media, consider that both coaches in "the biggest game in the history of the Big East" this Thursday could be gobbled up by larger programs in the offseason. The Big East may be much improved, but they're still where coaches go to try out for bigger gigs. That's no slam on the league, that's just economics. Until they tap a few more cashlines, they'll lose coaching talent upward to the big money leagues.

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No coach with an actual brain is going to take the FSU job when Bobby finally shuffles off the scene. No matter how well they do, on the very best day of their tenure they’d always hear, “Bobby would have done that better.”

Ask Doug Barfield or Ray Perkins or [Name Redacted] about this one: you don’t want to be the guy who follows The Guy. It doesn’t turn out well. As Orson surmises, it’s going to be either another Bowden, or a Bowden surrogate (and no, that doesn’t include Mark Richt, who does have a brain).

by Will Collier on Nov 1, 2006 9:03 AM EST reply actions  

It’s going to be interesting to watch the XLee developments- I know FSU fans are pumped, and he certainly seems to give them a better chance of winning, but let’s remember- he threw 3 INTs to Duke and recently lost to a Maryland squad that isn’t exactly top-10 material. I just hope he doesn’t develop before December.

by italiangator on Nov 1, 2006 9:05 AM EST reply actions  

How does that Wings song go?

Stay stay stay…

Despite all the punditry and looking down on the Big East it remains the easiest place to have a shot at the MNC. You’ve only got 7 conference games and a decent shot at going undefeated. Plus no pesky championship game to play. Advantage Big East. Both Petrino and Rich Rod got hefty pay bumps in the past few years. Petrino was locked down tight after Jet-Gate and Coach Rod got a big ole raise after the Sugar Bowl, plus he is home in a sense.

Go go go…

On the other hand Big East bucks can’t compare to the money that an SEC or ACC school can pull. UVA is paying Al Groh $1.7MM a year for crying out loud. Double RR’s base is $900k IIRC with substantial bonuses for performance. Groh just shows up and makes nearly twice that. Plus home is WV and trust me, I’m from there and I moved the hell away as fast as I could.

by Hokie Andrew on Nov 1, 2006 9:09 AM EST reply actions  

I disagree. I’m not seeing an Urban Mayer parrallel on this one.

BTW if anyone saw SMU-UAB last night (go ’stangs) Doug Flutie, God love him and his magic, absolutely wreaks as a broadcaster. Just terrible. Can we get a shot of that nasty coat he had on??

by Brian on Nov 1, 2006 9:10 AM EST reply actions  

Which major college head coach vacancy is going to be filled by Gene Chizik? He can wait it out at Texas, making head coach type money, until the perfect big name program is open for him to take the job. Thoughts?

by The Stos on Nov 1, 2006 9:12 AM EST reply actions  

That was my immediate impression when he was introduced on Gameday. Great player but lousy at the broadcasting.

by Hokie Andrew on Nov 1, 2006 9:17 AM EST reply actions  

Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised to see alot of these big-name coordinators (Chizik, Strong, etc.) stick to what they’re doing- they’re guys who are making a ton of money, they don’t have the “nonsense” that goes on with running a program, all of that- some people want to explore their limits (SOS), some people enjoy what they do (Mattison). I think the assumption alot of times is that all these coordinators have a burning desire to be a head coach, and I think that might not be nearly as true as the rumor mills make it out to be.

by italiangator on Nov 1, 2006 9:18 AM EST reply actions  

I don’t think Petrino will leave. I don’t know if its bourbon money or horse breeding money, but someone has a Scrooge McDuck-sized vault full of it.
Bobby makes 2.5 mil a year now, there are plans to almost double the size of the stadium, and they are looking to built a huge new basketball facility.
Easy schedule, cash mccash, and no one will ever call for his job…Bobby’s got it made.

by AUAlum on Nov 1, 2006 9:28 AM EST reply actions  

Brian shall be smited by God.

by BC Eagle on Nov 1, 2006 9:28 AM EST reply actions  

I think both will stay at their respected schools. I think that the Big East may be the lesser of the BCS conferences, but that has a way of changing pretty quickly. I remember when the Big 12 was the most awesomest conference ever. Now there are about 3 teams that are actually worth anything.

There are a couple of programs in the Big East that are gaining momentum. Rutgers, Pitt, and Cincinnati come to mind. All are going to be bowl eligable. Syracuse is a joke, but they are better than last year.

All I am saying is that both of these programs have a chance to still qualify for the NC game as well as the other going to a BCS game. Only the SEC and Pac Ten can make that statement at this point as well. I think you’ll see them both stay….

Write it down, take a picture, I don’t give a fuc!!!!

by Odell 51 on Nov 1, 2006 9:39 AM EST reply actions  

Re: #1 – That would be true if the new coach was taking over in 2000, or 01, with FSU just coming off a national championship. But at this point, the last 5 years have left a sour enough taste that fans could get excited for a new coach. And the comparison to Cuba has been made before and is apt – great access to the best athletes, tons of money and support, just waiting for the right leader to tap into all that potential.

by Halleck T. on Nov 1, 2006 9:45 AM EST reply actions  

No coach with an actual brain is going to take the FSU job when Bobby finally shuffles off the scene. No matter how well they do, on the very best day of their tenure they’d always hear, "Bobby would have done that better."

I’m pretty sure I could piece together a 4-4 (2-4 ACC) record with 3 of the wins over Troy, Rice, and UNC (with the 4th over an impotent team from “da U”. If Bobby is still THE MAN, why is he flushing his team down the pooper? It can’t be THAT difficult to replace mediocrity with equivalent mediocrity, can it? Looking at the ‘Noles remaining schedule, I don’t even see a 6-6 season…and could realistically finish up 4-8.

by Aerobab on Nov 1, 2006 9:50 AM EST reply actions  

AUAlum…isn’t that pizza money up there at Louie-ville?

by zzgator on Nov 1, 2006 9:51 AM EST reply actions  

Beat me to it, #11; but you were so much more eloquent with your words. Disregard #12.

by Aerobab on Nov 1, 2006 10:11 AM EST reply actions  

I will be terrified and reduced to whimpering like a little girl and praying that the storm blows over when the FSU job eventually becomes vacant down the road. However to even insinuate that Rod would leave WVU for UNC is silly and preposterous.

I know they can offer a lot of money. So can any number of schools where vacancies open every year. Rod is a son of WV and former player for our school. I am not delusional enough to think he wouldnt possibly leave us for one of the premier posts out there, but UNC is a football backwater school.

by WVUFan on Nov 1, 2006 10:22 AM EST reply actions  

I think it is possible that he might leave WVU one day, but I think he would rather make West Virginia a national power. The next few years or year will go a long way in determining that. WV alum are going to have to get out the donation buckets at every street corner to make the kind of improvements to the facilities Rodriguez wants. Season tickets are still relatively cheap for eveyone beside me, so I wouldn’t be opposed to a substantial hike in prices if it would help keep him.

We better, because it would take twice as much to hire a coach half as good.

by Johnny on Nov 1, 2006 10:33 AM EST reply actions  

Petrino to NFL eventually? Almost definitely.
Petrino to truly elite program (tOSU,UM,UT,ND,SEC top …) if offered? Possibly.
Petrino to Miami, much less Carolina? I’ll believe it when I see it.

Louisville is profitable, expanding, paying with the bigs, recruiting with the bigs, perennially poking its nose into the MNC conversation. Petrino’s a rock star down there. What’s not to like?

He wants to go play third fiddle in a pro town with a crappy fan base or work his way from the bottom of the ACC? I don’t see it.

by StatProf on Nov 1, 2006 10:40 AM EST reply actions  

I am saying is that both of [Louisville,WVU] have a chance to still qualify for the NC game as well as the other going to a BCS game. Only the SEC and Pac Ten can make that statement at this point as well.[/i]

Is there some reason the conference with the top two teams in the BCS rankings can’t make this statement?

by rlc on Nov 1, 2006 11:15 AM EST reply actions  

#11,#12

Sorry, following Bowden at FSU is a no win job.

Woody had several down years at Ohio State; they brought in Earl Bruce. Bruce understood the program, had the best record in the Big10 in his tenure and a better reocrd than Woody’s last years. Eventually, in a down year he wins less than 75% and he is gone.Why? Because he wasn’t Woody.

In the eyes of FSU, Bobby is bigger— after all Ohio State was a power long before Woody.

The job would be perfect for a 60y old coach who wanted to jump start retirement and bank a few tens of millions for 3 years work.

by Bozo The Fan on Nov 1, 2006 11:15 AM EST reply actions  

Will Collier:

Don’t forget other names like Frank Solich, Earle Bruce, Gary Moeller, or Fred Akers. The most notable exception to that rule is Dr. Tom Osborne — and it still took him 25 years to break through.

You could pay me enough to follow Uncle Bobby or Paterno — but it would take a million kajillion dollars.

If those dominoes do fall — I’d not be surprised to see Bo Pelini get a call from WVa. Hot coordinator, Ohio native, etc, etc.

by Albino Tornado on Nov 1, 2006 11:18 AM EST reply actions  

Rodriguez to UNC? Lessee, leaving full stadium, intense loyal fans to go to a “beautiful” mausoleum, fans dressed as aluminum, and basketball clearly #1.

Keep in mind why Mack Brown left UNC: fan support.

by Alpha Wolf on Nov 1, 2006 11:30 AM EST reply actions  

It’s Lou-a-vull, and god I hope he bolts soon….like, following the WVU game. As a UK grad living in the ‘ille, I’m sick of listening to fans gloat who don’t even fill the stadium up for kickoff. Also, are you all aware that a sign hangs in Louisville stating “The best college sports town in America”??? This is inane. Louisville’s a great town, but the fans/school suck balls. Yet, he would be foolish to leave now as he’s nearly on the same footing as Pitino, and yes, the $$ is flowing these days.

Anyway….that sign pisses me off something fierce.

by Turd Ferguson on Nov 1, 2006 12:14 PM EST reply actions  

Petrino No Go To Miami and Much less Alabama!

Both those schools are a hellatious on coaches.

Why try to be the next Bear or Jimmy Johnson when you can be THE man at your school (Louisville).

Petrino is smarter than this, and he’s currently getting close to 2mil !

by Erik on Nov 1, 2006 12:47 PM EST reply actions  

Hey Turd, you covering me in Hateraid.
I’m sorry we in the Ville don’t blow mad Dongs at football like you guys do.

by UK is a Turd on Nov 1, 2006 12:53 PM EST reply actions  

#24, the ghosts of Ron Cooper will rear their ugly head sooner than later…

by GoBigBlue on Nov 1, 2006 1:46 PM EST reply actions  

Anyone think if Iowa State gets rid of McCarney at the end of the year, he could go there? (at least humor me)

by j.j. on Nov 1, 2006 4:45 PM EST reply actions  

I think McCarney is the one Big 12 coach who is on his way out. Mangino would be following him, but they won last weekend, so he might be safe.

by Beergut on Nov 1, 2006 5:52 PM EST reply actions  

I would like to say that BC Eagle was in fact CORRECT on the God smiting…as I checked out my inbox just now to find a picture of my little sister who goes to SMU with a picture of her and doug flutie. FUCK!!!! Stupid Jesuits.

by Brian on Nov 1, 2006 6:09 PM EST reply actions  

Orson, the title of this post… is it supposed to be read as Chandler-Bing-esque? “Where X and Y… AREN’T going.” That’s what I figured you were after, but I’ve looked at it a couple times now and all I can think is:

Where Palm and Pine are blowing
Where RICHRODRIGUEZANDBOBBYPETRINO aren’t going
Shine forth thy noble Gothic walls
Thy lovely vineclad halls

That is SUBTLE, man, subtle.

by Panhandler on Nov 1, 2006 9:59 PM EST reply actions  

As a UNA fan (North Alabama) I just witnessed the UA (Alabama) plane land in Henderson Kentucky. Forty miles south of Louisville. The same plane was in Henderson last Sunday also. My be nothing but my daughter works there says four SUV’s (All White/Crimson picked up several people. Could be golfing budding in 41 degree weather. NoT

by Scott on Nov 26, 2006 6:58 PM EST reply actions  

To Scott(aka, Tide entourage spotter in KY & fan of my hometown Lions(Florence, AL) back to back to back national championship football squads in 90’s…to the point: To my knowledge you are the first person to spot the Crimson dark suits in a Petrino hunt, interesting but not at all surprising the hunt began in earnest before Mike “I am so overly & incessantly nice I get called a pussy at my favorite South Beach salon by my best friend and lifelong hairdresser Bruce” Shula was fired(just a little angry sorry bout that) Anyways point is keep us posted down here in Bama we certainly would appreciate it. P.S. Mike Shula if you are reading this and crying in your cosmo cheer up you just got 4 mil for being an incompetent fuck. Congratulations bitch!

by Jason on Nov 28, 2006 8:31 AM EST reply actions  

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