Comments on: BEING GAY ABOUT THE WORD GAY IS SO TOTALLY…GAY.

By: OfficePoolPrincess

OfficePoolPrincess — Thu, 02 Nov 2006 02:01:17 +0000

PSUGirl You Rock! Unless you hit the field in drag I don’t think you should be offended by the use of the word gay. Maybe some people just need to come out to themselves.

By: have we beaten lloyd yet

have we beaten lloyd yet — Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:38:08 +0000

Obviously, the appropriate thing to say would be this: Receivers, when the ball is thrown in the air by the quarterback, it�s make it work time.

By: rolliefingersmustache

rolliefingersmustache — Wed, 01 Nov 2006 12:45:34 +0000

hi, new visitor to this site, and first off it is great. I am a huge of fan of hella snarky blogs wherein the smartypants element of sports fandom sits around work wasting valuable time typing up scathing social commentary disguised as BCS politicking and friendly shit talking.
anyways, to weigh in briefly on the “gay” thing. It’s a little over the top, sure, but Kinchen has to be aware that in this day and age calling something gay on air is going to be a huge deal. It’s kind of like the N word. If someone black says it, then in general it’s a different vibe. I think that Kinchen isn’t really using “gay” maliciously, but it’s definitely insensitive. And that’s he didn’t get fired, just suspended for a week.
If you want to use gay as an adjective meaning bad on your own time it’s no one’s business really, but it’s a totally different story from a professional broadcaster in the middle of a game.
and now, please let the shitstorm of BCS stumping continue forthwith.

By: adam

adam — Wed, 01 Nov 2006 04:07:53 +0000

i’m not saying that you can’t say it, j.j. i’m just saying that just because you don’t mean to be rude doesn’t mean that it isn’t.

By: j.j.

j.j. — Wed, 01 Nov 2006 03:14:40 +0000

Adam,
Point taken.But i said “‘Gay’ has taken on a slang meaning of its own, not necessarily related to homosexuality”.

Please keep in mind that I didn’t say anything to you about being gay. I just don’t like being told what I can and can’t say.

Sometimes it helps to give people the benefit of the doubt. Unless you’re sure that someone’s taking a cheap-shot at gays, try not to take offense to what we say. There are lots of things that are going to piss you off, but such is life.

And nobody can take away from the hilarity of this post:
“saying that tenderly caressing balls is gay= no foul”
“I caress my balls all the freakin’ time! That hardly makes me a man lover.”
Great comments.

By: aerobab

aerobab — Wed, 01 Nov 2006 02:43:38 +0000

“guys carressing balls is definitely gay, no matter what the brothers at sigma nu say. ”

Adam, you must be gay, my friend. I caress my balls all the freakin’ time! That hardly makes me a man lover.

By: adam

adam — Wed, 01 Nov 2006 02:03:05 +0000

alright, that i disagree with, jj. the term is definitely still connected to sexuality, in that IT’S THE SAME FUCKING WORD. niggardly and nigger are different, since one is a valid word, and the other is a derogatory word for black people.

saying crap like “stop being so gay” when you really mean “stop being so stupid” is distinctly bigoted. it’s not to say that ther person meant it that way, only that they are too immature/lazy to come up with a better word.

the difference in this case is that the guy was describing how to catch a football, realized that he was using a lot of terms that could be thought of as sexual, and then made fun of himself. if he had just said something stupid, then called himself gay, that would have been different, but he was talking about carressing balls. guys carressing balls is definitely gay, no matter what the brothers at sigma nu say.

By: j.j.

j.j. — Wed, 01 Nov 2006 01:54:21 +0000

Guys,
It’s like forcing a Congressman who says ‘niggardly’ to resign. I’m not saying he’s not racist, but that’s a valid word with an etymology going back way further than the similar-sounding racial slur.
It’s like charging all Eucher players with hate crimes for saying ‘renege’.
It’s like filing a sexual harassment lawsuit against your boss when he tells you your presentation sucked. That word isn’t even close to vulgar or sexual anymore.
‘Gay’ has taken on a slang meaning of its own, not necessarily related to homosexuality, and not intended to be some gay-bashing slur.

Political correctness is a bunch of bullshit, and it does nothing to make people feel more accepted. It used to be that ‘retarded’ was a perfectly acceptable way to refer to retarded people. Since then, it’s changed to ’special’, ‘differently abled’, ‘disabled’, ‘mentally challenged’, etc. It doesn’t matter which of those words I use; I’m pretty sure I can say each of those terms in a derogatory way. Everybody needs to quit getting offended at word choice and look at intent and context.

By: adam

adam — Wed, 01 Nov 2006 01:31:15 +0000

wow. according to that, pam ward and i have the same phrase when talking about our football interest.

By: tim in tampa

tim in tampa — Wed, 01 Nov 2006 01:15:44 +0000

You can’t suspend somebody for saying something is gay, when its gay. Its like suspending somebody for saying South Carolina wears black jerseys, because they said black.

You can’t call out a minority population by their stereotype, or refer to that stereotype on-air. You just can’t.

It’s not like your South Carolina example. Here are adequate analogic examples to what was said, using available stereotypes for that minority:

Announcer says something stupid. “Uh, that was kind of black of me.”
Commentator is admonished for being behind the play. “Sorry, that was a bit Mexican, eh?”
Pam Ward expresses interest in football. “Hey, we all have a little butch in us.”
Sideline reporter quickly calculates receiver’s game yardage in his head. “Hey, just call me an Asian [If Bill Parcells, Oriental].”

By: Geaux Irish

Geaux Irish — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 22:07:11 +0000

PSUgirl, you also missed the standard references to Bob Griese.

Recommended viewing for this was “In Living Color’s” ‘Men on Football’ skit:

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Antoine Marryweather: [Antoine is explaining football to Dwayne] Ok, now, you’re going to be the center. So take this ball, bend over and I’m going to walk up right behind you and put my hands between your legs.

Dwayne Edwards: OOOH! I think I may have played this game before!

By: SeaTrojan

SeaTrojan — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 21:43:38 +0000

Jeez PSUgirl,

When you put it like that, it makes me contemplate going to a museum this saturday instead of watching football. I hadn’t planned on culturing myself up until February; after the Super Bowl.

I think I might mosey on back to the Trojan-Beaver thread from yesterday.

By: PSUgirl

PSUgirl — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 21:30:42 +0000

Seriously boys, what exactly about college football isn’t gay? Lining up, holding hands, going into battle with your teammates (so much closer than “friends”) – while your team leader positions his hands firmly between the hind haunches of the center warrior – at the thrust of the ball the two teams collide, crushing against and grabbing on to one another – tight ends, wide receivers, a guy named Butkus (there’s even an award), and when that one kid goes out and kicks the ball the announcers say things like “he laced that bad boy through the uprights”.

By: Darth Scooter

Darth Scooter — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 21:25:41 +0000

The first thing I thought of when I read about this on CnnSI was that’s gay. You can’t suspend somebody for saying something is gay, when its gay. Its like suspending somebody for saying South Carolina wears black jerseys, because they said black.

By: Wooderson

Wooderson — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 21:11:54 +0000

oh no, Jams (c).

good God I remember how uncool you were if you weren’t rocking those back in elementary school.

But I lived in NC, so it was was an easy choice for my mother to forego the jorts.

Although, when I was in first grade, mom tried to send me to school in osh kosh overall-jorts. Even in the south, that’s cause for sneering.