LAWYERS, PART TWO: COLLEGIATE SPORTS, LLC BEGINS TO SCRUB YOUTUBE
How YouTube will ever be properly policed is beyond us, but it's happening: Panhandler gets a video axed by Youtube simply for having the words "Florida" and "football" in it, all courtesy of Collegiate Sports, LLC. Never mind that it was just a friend of his goofing around on Broward Beach--CS is "blast-faxing" anything and everything that might be construed as copyright violation without watching it.
Does this mean the end of all the glorious free usable footage on YouTube? And if so, can we post video of Rex Grossman throwing go routes on PornTube? That's porn to us, at least.

Overkill: a fine album by Motorhead. Also a lame legal strategy.
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this is scary shit. without youtube, we’d never have Rudy: The Navy years.
by U-Dub Dish on Oct 26, 2006 5:00 PM EDT reply actions
It seems like most Auburn highlight videos have been taken down as well… except for some messed up highlights with Ally McBeal and Aha remixed into them… what’s going on here?
by Auburnfan on Oct 26, 2006 5:24 PM EDT reply actions
So to evade the giant brillo pad, from now on all FSU highlights will be tagged as “kitten,” “rumor,” and “please Kali yank my still beating heart out of my f*cking chest.”
by Halleck T. on Oct 26, 2006 5:47 PM EDT reply actions
Only way to feel the noise is when it’s good and loud,
So good you can’t believe it, screaming with the crowd,
Don’t sweat it, get it back to you,
Overkill, Overkill
by DC Trojan on Oct 26, 2006 5:51 PM EDT reply actions
Without even trying this time, you keep bringing back my Prague memories. A bar near my place was completely dedicated to Motorhead, memorabilia, etc. But in the corner was a Nancy Reagan “just say no to drugs” pinball machine with the cast of “Different Strokes”. One of those wonderfully bizarre juxtapositions you only find in a foreign country.
No, I can’t remember the name of the bar for the life of me. Damnit!
by SeaTrojan on Oct 26, 2006 6:03 PM EDT reply actions
Didn’t anybody think before YouTube got bought out? I recall an article regarding its legality a few weeks before the purchase that said copyright stuff wouldn’t be gone after until there was actually someone with money behind it, after which it was going to be on like Donkey Kong. Of course, I’m unsurprised that they won’t take the time to find actual copyright infringement, but still.
by italiangator on Oct 26, 2006 6:30 PM EDT reply actions
Good article in The SF Comical about the scrubbing of YouTube and “will it ever be the same” in the aftermath of the Google buyout for 1.65 B.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/10/19/DDG0FLRA0U1.DTL&hw=youtube&sn=007&sc=434
by Kanu on Oct 26, 2006 6:51 PM EDT reply actions
Well, I’m pretty sure Youtube was about ten million infringment lawsuits about to happen, so it’s no surprise that Google is taking down basically everything that’s good.
by Rob G on Oct 26, 2006 7:11 PM EDT reply actions
Well hey, but wait. Read my blog post before you just say, “Yeah, YouTube said they’d take action.” (I like you all too much too just say “RTFA.”)
I DIDN’T VIOLATE ANY COPYRIGHT. My case is not THAT case. If you uploaded 3 minutes of CBS coverage, you violated their copyright (arguably, I know, I know… maybe you uploaded it for an educational purpose, or a parody of some kind), but I DIDN’T. I uploaded 15 seconds of my friend Matt acting like a dork. It’s not even a real camera – it’s a still camera that can take absolutely atrocious-quality short videos.
It’s my flipping video and “Collegiate Sports, LLC” can blow me. Maybe YouTube will suck after all the infringing stuff is gone, but grainy 640×320 videos of adults re-living their college days by stumbling drunkenly about Broward Beach at 10:30 in the morning MUST LIVE!
by Panhandler on Oct 26, 2006 7:32 PM EDT reply actions
Panhandler, I’m agreeing with you- what I’m saying is that it was obvious that this would happen in the wake of the buyout and that I’m completely unsurprised that in the name of incompetence they will take down completely legit bits such as yours as well- like most things, when corporations and money get involved, you can kiss the good times goodbye.
by italiangator on Oct 26, 2006 7:58 PM EDT reply actions
Italian,
Yep, we’re on the same page. I’m going to hold GooTube’s feet to the DMCA and I hope other home-movie-uploaders will also. “Collegiate Sports, LLC” is going to have to spend corporate-lawyer-time actually watching these videos; they won’t get away with their tag-based shortcut. I don’t really even begrudge them the attempt — if copyrighted material were the basis of my business model, I might do the same thing.
BUT non-infringers ought to stand up for ourselves and I’m worried most won’t bother (the path-of-least-resistance factor: “It was just a dumb video, whatever.”)
Now I’m off to bittorrent to steal more albums.
(kidding!)
(no I’m not!)
(or am I?!)
by Panhandler on Oct 26, 2006 8:35 PM EDT reply actions
There was an AU fan earlier this week who had a short clip of his daughter’s chalk drawing of the AU logo and a dead Gator and he got the same letter and his video was pulled.
YouTube has jumped the shark.
We so need to revamp all the copyright laws. The Mouse has ruined intellectual property, and the web consistantly makes great new uses of old IP (fair use, IMHO) that gets pulled once the popularity hits.
by NewAZTiger on Oct 26, 2006 10:09 PM EDT reply actions
NewAZ,
That Dad needs to counter-notice. There’s laws to protect us, or so they says.
Big picture, we sure as shit need to define “limited time” as something less than “any finite number,” which as I understand it was the Mouse’s argument for extending copyright. One million is a finite number, sure enough! Thanks Mickey!
The big problem, as I personally see it, is actually CODIFYING ‘fair use.’ The case law is mediocre but I don’t know if you CAN do it legislatively… it’s one of those permanently-grey grey areas. Is two minutes of network video footage ALWAYS fair-use, and seven minutes ALWAYS infringement? 30-seconds of a song must be fair use b/c that’s what Amazon let’s me “sample,” but is 35 seconds ALWAYS infringement? Or maybe everything is always fair use and my massive stolen-album collection* is really totally legal?!
Bah. Hell with it. Bury your guns, learn to field-strip a squirrel for meat, seal your jorts in the blast-proof containment vessel… the bomb’s going off before we need answers to these questions!
[*There is no massive stolen-album collection. Just a little joke. Bittorrent? Never heard of it.]
by Panhandler on Oct 26, 2006 10:53 PM EDT reply actions
Amen…on Gator Football being better than porn…. I was in that study
by Doc Pedro on Oct 26, 2006 11:30 PM EDT reply actions
Looks like Orson’s not the only one with SEAL Envy.
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/111984,CST-SPT-local26.article
by Mike on Oct 26, 2006 11:39 PM EDT reply actions
Who or what, exactly, is this “Collegiate Sports, LLC” you speak of?
Anyone who’s snipped the metallic silver hologram from a hat or jersey knows that CLC and their suspiciously UGA-arches-like logo owns, mostly, the college merchandising market. Few know that Collegiate Images, a partner of CLC, licenses still photogaphs and video of college athletic events.
But “Collegiate Sports, LLC”? Either some new college sports uber-licensing entity has been formed in the wake of the YouTube/Google mindmeld, or this is all nonsense.
by Dinknflicka on Oct 27, 2006 12:32 AM EDT reply actions
Dink,
Yeah you right. “Collegiate Images” it is. See what kind of attention-to-detail you get, with a government-employed nitwit? And here I am with all this free time.
So this is part of the big baseball-cap conglomerate, eh? I guess I should relent. Surely they do own my home-video.
Oh, wait.
No.
Hang on.
Mmmm.
Nope, I still own my own home movies.
Hey Collegiate IMAGES? (thanks Dink!) YOU… yes, YOU can blow me.
by Panhandler on Oct 27, 2006 12:44 AM EDT reply actions
Panhandler,
Please forgive. Your video, for which I searched long and hard because you mentioned ice rink, which caused my tiny brain to immediately lock upon stored images of Sasha Cohen, will forever remain my under :30 Holy Grail
I was merely trying to set the record straight. And I did not want to start nothing. So, hopefully, after this comment there won’t be nothing.
Peace
by Dinknflicka on Oct 27, 2006 1:07 AM EDT reply actions
Dink,
No offense to you was intended, implied, etc. I just had a couple drinks tonight and got mouthy. For all that, I’m glad you caught my error so that I could correct my own post and let any “Collegiate Images” ‘trons who think to google their corporate moniker find my post or this one, and prostrate themselves before us in a grand apologia. (mmmyeah, that’ll happen.)
To think how many of their hats I done bought in the last 20 years!
by Panhandler on Oct 27, 2006 1:37 AM EDT reply actions
Panhandler,
So your buddy isn’t Sasha Cohen? Damn.
by Dinknflicka on Oct 27, 2006 2:16 AM EDT reply actions
Let’s see. Google buys youtube and shortly thereafter youtube caves to a cretinous mob and starts blindly eliminating anything and everything that could even conceivably be a copyright violation.
Hopefully no one other than my 9-year old really believed their self-serving “do no evil” motto.
by OhioDawg on Oct 27, 2006 7:57 AM EDT reply actions
Speaking of Prague, don’t go there for the mexican food. Bad, bad idea.
by bitterhorn on Oct 27, 2006 8:50 AM EDT reply actions
bitterhorn,
Perhaps you’d like the pizza, where they often use ketchup as the tomato sauce.
by SeaTrojan on Oct 27, 2006 1:19 PM EDT reply actions
Re: Rex Grossman
1) What’s up with the eyebrows? Looks like he’s been getting them plucked. Isn’t that grounds for an ass-whipping in Chicago?
2) Am I the only one struck by his startling resemblance to the drummer from the Romantics circa 1981?
by DC Trojan on Oct 27, 2006 2:04 PM EDT reply actions
Okay, I know this thread is long-dead, but I’ve found another Gator in the same spot as me. His story here:
http://sportsoasis.blogspot.com/2006/10/forgive-me-father-for-i-have-infringed.html
Also, here’s a fan of florida football:
http://knepperbrothersblog.blogspot.com/2006/10/and-google-can-burn-in-hell.html
(and I thought Comments took bizarre turns here at EDSBS)
by Panhandler on Nov 3, 2006 2:41 PM EST reply actions

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