BLOGPOLL BALLOT, WEEK NINE: CHARLIE CAN'T RUN
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If only our HR manual said the same thing. Our ballot follows. It is, as always, a fiasco wrapped in a blueberry pancake deep-fried in the rich, boiling oil of delusional guesswork served in a commemorative tote bag of speculation.
The ballot:
| Rank | Team | Delta |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Ohio State | -- |
| 2 | Southern Cal | -- |
| 3 | Michigan | -- |
| 4 | Tennessee | -- |
| 5 | Texas | -- |
| 6 | Louisville | -- |
| 7 | California | -- |
| 8 | Clemson | -- |
| 9 | Auburn | -- |
| 10 | Florida | -- |
| 11 | West Virginia | -- |
| 12 | Notre Dame | -- |
| 13 | Wisconsin | -- |
| 14 | Boston College | 3 |
| 15 | Georgia Tech | 1 |
| 16 | Arkansas | 2 |
| 17 | Rutgers | 1 |
| 18 | Texas A&M | 2 |
| 19 | Nebraska | -- |
| 20 | Missouri | 1 |
| 21 | Wake Forest | 1 |
| 22 | Boise State | 2 |
| 23 | Pittsburgh | 2 |
| 24 | Oregon | 9 |
| 25 | Oklahoma | 2 |
Remember, we're trying to do relational polling based on our best estimates of absolute value. Meaning: we use the evidence we've got and plot it out just a few fathoms out before recalibrating the next week. Polling is like navigation without a compass; either you intuit your way across the water and just admit it a la Polynesian navigation, or you stay close to the shore, tack, and write "THERE BE DRAGONS" on the unknowns. Like any voter should, we'll just admit where the dragons are on our map. Our biggest one is currently in the number two slot.
The ancien regime sees no beheadings this week. Stasis rules, mostly because we get little data forcing wiggles in the top ranks. Tennessee/Bama was close, yes, but it usually is. Cal gets screwed by a freak Hail Mary that would have sunk lesser teams, but recovers like Nobel Prize winners do. Everyone else coasts or sleepwalks through their games.
Auburn bumps, Clemson trumps. Clemson flattened Tech. Just paved them. The amount of talent they have in the backfield and the fact that Gaines Adams was a one man force multiplier caving in the Tech line on defense culminated in a fourth quarter of truly Gailey-esque futility. Right now they'd beat Auburn or Florida, and mostly on account of the very simple and effective ways they work two backfield demons into the gameplan at once. To compare their overall team profile to Auburn '04 would not be a stretch at this point.
Charlie can't run. Notre Dame can't run. We saw it in person. On television it's easy to be dazzled by the skill play of QuinnmarxdkijaMcKnight, but whenever ND's faced a competent d-line and a decent pass defense they've plotzed around in a muddle of bad blocking and ineffectual running, just as we saw them do in South Bend on Saturday.
The line's not nimble enough to execute the draw-and-toss game Weis loves to throw out there in the second half, and the first good D that rolls up with a good offense will beat them. We're willing to edge just that far away from the shore based on what we saw and hope we don't sail off the edge of the speculative horizon.
West Virginia goes back up. Mostly on the muddled performances or bye weeks of those around them. Our couch flameth, our couch dimmeth by the week with them.
Confessed Error One: Arkansas moves up strictly out of sloppiness. They should be down three or four spots. We blame society and our jittery caffeine Parkinson's for that. Possibly corrected under the wire.
Confessed Error Two: Oregon. They shouldn't even be close to where they are. Possibly corrected under the wire
Boston College. A very balanced, respectable, and altogether considerate New Englanderish type bunch who win with the professionalism of a Harvard Business School grad. They read their case studies, they implement well...they're change agents and proactive solution-makers, dammit. We hire them for the week until we find the phantom bank accounts for "snacks" taken out in the company name at the Bank of Nauru.

Nauru: ready for your ill-gotten funds when you are.
Other notes:
--Nebraska's a noble gas in our poll: nothing moves them up, and nothing moves them down. They just sit there, inert and bored. We'll drop them next week for simply being boring. We drop LSU, which we have no problem doing since the Les Miles Cult of Personality has officially died. (Blame huge, cumbersome white hat.)
--Oklahoma and Pitt are underwhelming and a bit flat, the Mr. Pibbs of the CFB world. Oklahoma may blame cruel fate; Pitt may blame the mustache-shaped alien that pilots the lifeform we call Dave Wannstedt.
--Rutgers fever: go ahead and catch it. Think of it like volunteering to be someone's prison love slave rather than waiting to be approached, since ESPN's cell block bully's going to be ramming it in your innards in a few weeks anyway. You may as well control the sodomy before it happens.
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You’re gonna put Texas A&M at 18 and drop LSU out of the polls. Seriously?!?!
I know we haven’t beaten any solid teams, but COME ON!
At least we stomp the shit out of sorry/mediocre teams.
LSU should at least fall somewhere between 17-25. Preferably closer to 17.
COME ON!
by Beer Baron on Oct 25, 2006 12:25 PM EDT reply actions
I guess Rutgers is going to go from really good story that everyone enjoys to overhyped annoyance pretty soon. Its ok, we like the publicity either way…
by Dave K. on Oct 25, 2006 12:27 PM EDT reply actions
Wow, either you’re trying to illicit a spike in LSU responses, or you are already halfway through your bottle of Robitussin this morning because it is hard for me to imagine that you actually think LSU falls somewhere beneath the likes of:
13 Wisconsin
14 Boston College
15 Georgia Tech
16 Arkansas
17 Rutgers
18 Texas A&M
19 Nebraska
20 Missouri
21 Wake Forest
22 Boise State
23 Pittsburgh
24 Oregon
25 Oklahoma
by LSUfan on Oct 25, 2006 12:38 PM EDT reply actions
Your spread from Louisville to WVU to Rutgers is now down to 12 spots with not a shread of evidence from this year’s games to rank them anywhere more than spitting distance from each other. Mercifully they start playing each other next month. Damned decent of them since they haven’t played anyone else. Standard disclaimer that Louisville at least SCHEDULED top 25 OOC opponents.
by canuck on Oct 25, 2006 12:40 PM EDT reply actions
On the Rutgers Bandwagon – check (until December 2nd)
Annoyance toward Orson regarding the belittling of WVU – check (I don’t even mind the placement so much, but the comments were not necessary)
Download of Smack That for my happy dance on November 3rd – check (it’s in my head today)
U of L is too high. You can hardly call Miami a “quality win” now, Temple alone drags down their strength of schedule, and they play the same damn teams that we do.
Didn’t GT get their asses handed to them? And they go up one?
by CouchBurnin'Girl on Oct 25, 2006 12:41 PM EDT reply actions
The Big East is still a huge lacuna in polling. That’ll settle out.
And if we totally forgot LSU…well, there would be reasons, right? As in, real difficulty naming a quality team they beat.
by Orson Swindle on Oct 25, 2006 12:42 PM EDT reply actions
Please name a quality team West Virginia or Rutgers has beat. Thanks!!!
by Greg on Oct 25, 2006 12:47 PM EDT reply actions
Lightning Strikes Twice Dept.:
Beano Cook just said on ESPN’s Cowherd radio show that Notre Dame would win TWO (2) national championships in college football by the end of the 2008 football season. No kidding. That boy did not learn about the jack-ass possibilities of making predictions that involve the number two.
The rankings seem about right, except Texas should be way below No. 5.
by Stacy Keibler Loves Me on Oct 25, 2006 1:06 PM EDT reply actions
Rankings Part 2:
Screwyville should also not be ranked as high. I would put them somewhere in the second tier (11-20).
by Stacy Keibler Loves Me on Oct 25, 2006 1:08 PM EDT reply actions
Clemson compared to ’04 Auburn? HA!!!
As far as the poll goes, swap USC and Michie and it looks good. I’m sure the Arkansas drop causes some screams, but until the Razorbacks prove themselves in another decent SEC game, that 50 point USC molestation is just too damaging for a top-10 team.
by Cardiac Kids on Oct 25, 2006 1:24 PM EDT reply actions
Greg – You don’t call Eastern Washington a quality team? Don’t be snotty… I know of a lot of people in Cheney, Washington that may disagree with you.
by CouchBurnin'Girl on Oct 25, 2006 1:27 PM EDT reply actions
SKLM – That’s right, TWO Champeenships for the school you love to hate.
During that same period, Alabama will claim seven champeenships..
We should give Beano his meds and send him back to the happy farm.
by dbldomer7375 on Oct 25, 2006 1:27 PM EDT reply actions
And Rutgers beat Pitt.
And Illinois… who beat Michigan State… who almost beat Notre Dame.
So let’s not split hairs here.
by CouchBurnin'Girl on Oct 25, 2006 1:30 PM EDT reply actions
Forget splitting hairs, or shaving them, let’s burn couches!
To the STREETS!!!
Ooh, how about Worlds Largest Outdoor Couch Burning Party…. Surely there’s a rivalry that needs that nick….
by NewAZTiger on Oct 25, 2006 1:45 PM EDT reply actions
Beano’s outdone himself. Weis has a better chance this year than next. If Weis wins an NC in 2007 with Ty’s vanishing senior class his contract needs to be extended through his lifetime plus another 50 years calling plays in from a jar. On the other hand if he comes out of next September undefeated…
by canuck on Oct 25, 2006 1:53 PM EDT reply actions
I’d buy the world’s largest couch burning party shirt. Can we do it in blue and gold?
by CouchBurnin'Girl on Oct 25, 2006 2:01 PM EDT reply actions
dammit as much as it pains me to say this clemson looks great right now. and honestly, I would watch them match up with anyone in the nation on a nuetral field right now.
by random thoughts boy on Oct 25, 2006 2:13 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah why IS Georgia Tech moving up after getting throttled?
by FishFan-GatorMan on Oct 25, 2006 2:15 PM EDT reply actions
Have you seen their Math team?
Yeah, they’re scary good.
by NewAZTiger on Oct 25, 2006 2:20 PM EDT reply actions
We’ll find out this weekend if you have Tennessee overrated, the only time Fulmer beats Spurrier is when he has a national championship caliber team.
Is Georgia Tech your new Iowa?
by beatAuburn on Oct 25, 2006 2:23 PM EDT reply actions
dbldomer7375:
If Cheeseburger Charlie wins TWO champeenships during the next few years that would be so awful, so unimaginable, that it would probably knock me out of following college football to perhaps, baseball. Arghhhhhhh.
My guess, is that without Quinn and Howard Stern next year, Cheeseburger Weis will not be able to win the MNC. And if anyone can guess what will happen in two plus years, then they ought to be trying to solve the Middle East mess, instead of playing on these college football blogs with the rest of us….
by Stacy Keibler Loves Me on Oct 25, 2006 2:24 PM EDT reply actions
why has it taken this long for people to realize that darius walker wouldn’t be starting on any other team in the top-25? mediocre is being nice.
by oski on Oct 25, 2006 3:04 PM EDT reply actions
Never mind the arrows—they actually refer to our previous draft, which was worse.
by Orson Swindle on Oct 25, 2006 3:21 PM EDT reply actions
World’s largest outdoor couch burning contest – West Virginia v. Pittsburgh. November 16.
by rocket screen on Oct 25, 2006 3:41 PM EDT reply actions
sklm, your odds are good in 2007. If there aren’t any fifth years, the returning starters could make up a foursome and blitz Ty on the links.
by canuck on Oct 25, 2006 3:42 PM EDT reply actions
Write it down— this year’s SEC Champion (Florida) will play Notre Dame in the [USF&G redacted] Sugar Bowl and wipe the formerly Katrina refugee-stained floor of the Superdome with them.
Auburn vs. Clemson in the Orange Bowl is also a possibility, since Auburn won’t lose again, nor will they play in SEC Title game thanks to Arkansas.
by PW on Oct 25, 2006 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
I like PW’s prediction… it’s got some beef in it, and no silly speculation that anyone’s going to take a likin’ to Auburn and put them in the psuedo-champ BSC game.
As for dropping LSU out of the top 15… that my friends, is a mistake you will regret. Beware of the pissed off Cajun tiger…
by Futbawl Fan on Oct 25, 2006 4:18 PM EDT reply actions
I heard Beano on the radio this morning and actually what he said was that Weis would win 2 national championships between 2008 and 2012.
He seems to think that Jimmy Clauson is going to be the next Ron Powlus.
by oc phil on Oct 25, 2006 4:19 PM EDT reply actions
As part of a fanbase that famously gets its panties in a wad whenever someone mentions corndogs or doesn’t at least add the “co” to “champs” when referring to the 2003 USC team, I have learned – the hard way – to recognize deliberate baiting when I see it.
There’s not a team in the country – especially in your bottom 15 – that would rather play LSU in exchange for any of their future games. LSU, on the other hand, would gladly play any of those 13-25 teams than take on Tennessee or Arkansas or Bama. We’ll keep Ole Miss, though, thanks.
by TigerNacho on Oct 25, 2006 4:28 PM EDT reply actions
Hmmm… coach Weis coaching from a jar 50 years after he dies. Sounds like a plan. I wonder if Dr. Zoidberg will be team doctor by then?
by crazy tom on Oct 25, 2006 4:44 PM EDT reply actions
WVU/Marshall should get the couch-burnin’ title. The trophy could be something like the Bronze Gas Can.
by dogtown gator on Oct 25, 2006 4:57 PM EDT reply actions
Projecting high school QB’s to 2012 is a farce. JC will have to be sharp to QB for Weis, just like the other contenders.
by canuck on Oct 25, 2006 5:06 PM EDT reply actions
I’d definitely buy a BC themed t-shirt, but we just don’t have any personality!
by BC Eagle on Oct 25, 2006 5:11 PM EDT reply actions
Behind the Orange Curtain OC Phil:
RE: Beano Cook – 2 ND Championships
This morning I thought I heard Beano say, “… two championships by the 2008 season”. Do not remember hearing ‘by 2012’, but you may be right.
However, what did amaze me was that Cow Herd just let it ride and did not grill him a bit on such an obvious boneheaded comment. He stopped for a second, went off tangent and later came back with more ND questions, but not a beep about the two champeeenships. Hmmmm.
by Stacy Keibler Loves Me on Oct 25, 2006 6:07 PM EDT reply actions
You brought up a very interesting new way of ranking teams by electronegativity
LSU = Cs
Rutgers = N
Clemson = F
by j.j. on Oct 25, 2006 6:18 PM EDT reply actions
Canuck,
JC may be unproven, scrawny, and a pretty boy, BUT, not even John Elway threw a ball like that in high school. IF he has the necessary intangibles he won’t be a Ron Powlus. Thank God his running back is going to ’SC.
by SeaTrojan on Oct 25, 2006 6:25 PM EDT reply actions
Beano Cook just said…
SKLM and OC Phil,
You’re preachin’ to the choir here. Pretty much everyone here hates Beano Cook. I’ve never actually heard him talk, but trying to kill Special Agent Orson Swindle is simply unacceptable.
by j.j. on Oct 25, 2006 6:26 PM EDT reply actions
Beano, oh beano,
Another prediction, another likely failure. 2 champeeonships? Really, ND? With Charlie Weis, the John Cooper of ND? Just like 2 heisman’s for Powlus after his first game which he beat Northwestern, thats right, football powerhouse NU. (Anyone remember Brent Musberger saying he’d win 3 tho?)
by bhors on Oct 25, 2006 6:52 PM EDT reply actions
I couldn’t hear Beano over the sound of his neck skin flapping against his jowels. Thanks for the clarification.
by LSUfan on Oct 25, 2006 7:05 PM EDT reply actions
Seriously, GaTech?!?!?!
As much as I would have loved to see the Irish’s SOS look good with GaTech ranked high, it’s now time to watch the Chan Gailey 7-5 Principle in full effect.
by Geaux Irish on Oct 25, 2006 7:13 PM EDT reply actions
Orson,
I don’t even want to get into why you possibly dropped Arkansas after a 38-3 beatdown of Ole Miss. Clearly, you hate me. I can think of no other logical reason.
by Chris on Oct 25, 2006 9:18 PM EDT reply actions
I think the heads on ESPN just have Beano on as sort of a legacy kinda thing, that’s why they rarely grill him on anything anymore. The guy lost his fast ball years ago and now he’s kinda like that one uncle that we all have that we only see at Christmas time. yeah, hes got 900 theories on why this country is screwed up, and roughly 904 of them are wrong, but you just let him babble and babble because, really, what’s he harming?
And I can’t WAIT for the World’s Largest Couch Torch 2006. Just look for the Pitt Zubaz carflag.
by Corso's rental car on Oct 25, 2006 10:04 PM EDT reply actions
Rutgers has beaten everyone who lined up against them and that is all that matters. Give them some credit. Their RB is an absolute stud and their D is shutting everyone down.
Moan about Texas. They have played one good team and played like they didnt belong on the same field. Oklahoma? Suck. Nebraska? Suck. North Texas?
by Clashmore on Oct 25, 2006 10:19 PM EDT reply actions
I grew up with a retarded kid. So I know retarded. While I will refrain from calling you mentally handicapped, I will say that this kid from my youth knows where to rank LSU.
Anyway, let’s set aside this ranking deal and talk about college football circa 1979, interesting year, doncha think?
by Joshua on Oct 26, 2006 2:18 AM EDT reply actions
PW#26 —
There is not a team with even moderate offensive speed and BCS aspirations who doesn’t think want to snap a piece off of Cheeseburger Charlie’s secondary. Zbikiowski may be able win a steel cage death match with a grizzly bear, but he’s not running down a quality wideout.
My prediction: Whoever ND plays in a BCS game — Boise State included — will enjoy a re-enactment of the Oregon State – Domer Fiesta Track Meet from few years back.
by Albino Tornado on Oct 26, 2006 8:52 AM EDT reply actions
RE: Taco Town
Some guys from Norman actually did this:
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=95037&blogID=110345567&MyToken=9bd254ae-cc5e-4093-8a2f-7043a2ff2c06
by RhinoOU on Oct 26, 2006 9:32 AM EDT reply actions
And USC number 2? You guys are idiots. But in spite of your shortcomings in the brain department, you still write pretty well. So you have that going for you, which is nice.
by Joshua on Oct 26, 2006 10:18 AM EDT reply actions
They may have done the taco thing, but if they were really cool, they’d have Quarry for breakfast.
by crazy tom on Oct 26, 2006 11:03 AM EDT reply actions
The idea that U$C is better in any phase of the game than Michigan is pretty damn funny. I would love to see that MNC game. I have the picture in my head of J.D. Booty getting turned into a pretzel by the front seven from hell. Of course, U$C actually has 8, yes that is EIGHT, quarterbacks listed on their roster, so maybe one of them would leave the game being able to remember their name.
by Shop Smart, Shop S-Mart on Oct 26, 2006 11:19 AM EDT reply actions
Re: comment #33:
I don’t think there could ever be a more apt description of your school, Fredo.
by Wooderson on Oct 26, 2006 11:48 AM EDT reply actions
re: #45…
while i certainly agree that tom zbikowski is an overrated safety, saying that he cant run down a quality wideout is one of the more stupid comments that has ever been made. Do me a favor…go to youtube and watch the final minutes of the USC/ND game last year. Leinart’s 80yd pass went to, oh what is his name again, i think its Jarrett something, who was caught from behind by zbikowski. that jarrett character must not be a quality wideout. joke. Notre Dame’s secondary problem is not speed, they just make bad decisions. Whenever Zbikowski is late getting to the ball, its not b/c he wasnt fast enough, its because he made the wrong read and then had to adjust from his stupid mistake.
by mcc on Oct 26, 2006 3:28 PM EDT reply actions
The idea that U$C is better in any phase of the game than Michigan is pretty damn funny. I would love to see that MNC game.
1) It’s the zombie theory, not the quality of the team, that keeps us ranked there. Believe me, I wouldn’t be all that excited about USC – Michigan MNC.
2) That said, I believe the appropriate yardstick for your monster d-line would be 10 – one sack more than the 2004 Rose Bowl UM O-line gave up. And if the beating were that bad, you’d be doing Booty a favor by knocking the short term memory out.
by DC Trojan on Oct 26, 2006 3:55 PM EDT reply actions

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