INNOCENTS ABROAD: TWO OR THREE THINGS WE KNOW ABOUT NOTRE DAME, PT. ONE
Two, three or twenty things we know about Notre Dame after being the guest of the ND Nation for the UCLA/Notre Dame game this weekend.
1. Justin Hickman needs financial advice. Soon. Notre Dame fans brought out the phrase turnstile to describe the play of their offensive line in this game (”like big, flabby, slow turnstiles” was one phrase we think we heard,) but blame much of Brady Quinn’s lowballing and scrambling on the mad rushing of UCLA defensive end Justin Hickman. Hickman likely had Mel Kiper feeling tingly in all the places you don’t want to think about Kiper getting tingly on Saturday, since he did almost demolish the Irish gameplan single-handedly. He nearly vaulted his blocker on the final play, forcing Brady Quinn out of the pocket and into…well, the game-winning throw. So scratch that–it’s all Hickman’s fault, dammit. He can weep into the comforting fake boobs of a thousand NFL groupies to ease his pain next year.
2. Brady Quinn done something right dang awesome y’all. We’re translating that for our people, since the NBC fetishization of Quinn uses semi-religious iconography and language that doesn’t really cover the flat-out nastiness of the rusty dagger implanted in UCLA’s skull on the final drive. Quinn evaded hellacious pressure, rolled right (as he never, ever should have been allowed to do by the UCLA D), and completed a series of three passes that undid the frayed seams of the Bruins. The surgery was left to Quinn, who even on a trauma ward-style day broke out the cool tools for a little critical subcranial work on the final drive. And all he needed was one minute and a gigantic white wide receiver busting through arm tackles. Frankly, this should be the solution to any situation in life. If it isn’t, your number is probably up, and you should grit your teeth and think of England.
3. Jugglers do not belong in college football. Proof that more than any other cluster of universities in the world, the California University system’s traditions and protocols were and are still influenced by the heavy LSD use of the 1960s. We could attempt to describe him, but pictures do a much better job. For the record, we did ask others if they could see the man in the blue suit juggling on the sidelines, and were beyond relieved that others said yes.
Have you ever watched football…on acid, man?
4. Notre Dame is Wimbledon. That’s the best pinpoint accurate summary of what it the general environment at a Notre Dame football game is for an SEC fan. The first thing striking you at a Notre Dame game is the order, the sheer Midwestern, patient, polite order of the whole thing. In contrast, the first thing that strikes you at an SEC game may be the fist of an opposing fan, or perhaps the overwhelming aroma of whiskey off a tottering 55-year old passing you. It’s not just a different vibe, or different ethos–it’s an entirely different society and way of watching the game. If Ben Hill Griffin Stadium is the U.S. Open–where doing the wave, watching a replay on a jumbotron, and hollering like you’re being stung by a horde of merciless insects is de rigeur–then Notre Dame is Wimbledon, an intense and mannered environment where tradition rules with only the most obvious concessions to the postmodern football world included.
A Fenway-style manual scoreboard would not be out of place here–in fact, we’ll go ahead and suggest that Notre Dame put one in for style points. The retro, logo-free endzones are obvious to television viewers, but a single detail became a microcosm of the Notre Dame experience for us:

Unfinished, splintery, and creaky old wooden planks make up the lower rung of seating, with numbers stenciled on in military font spaced just far enough to allow for the squeezing of cheeks clearly not fed daily on a diet of high-fructose corn syrup. You want Knute Rockne’s benches? Well, there they are, brown and unforgiving. It’s a no-frills, crystallized vision of antediluvian game-watching that is a bit jarring to those accustomed to videologue game intros and WOO-HOO! FIREWORKS to start the game, but after a few minutes it’s hard not to feel a sudden fondness for leather helmets, the flying wedge, and players with long, unpronounceable Slavic names.
The upside is spooky, grey-skied nostalgia and a crowd focused on the game with a Teutonic intensity; the downside is a quiet stadium that, at times, was so quiet we actually heard the coaches yelling on the sidelines. (We were sitting in the south endzone, for some perspective on this.) The student section is as lunatic as any, and the spontaneous spacing of the lofted push-uppers following a touchdown would make a fine mathematics thesis for the inquisitive undergrad, since they did seem perfectly spaced without effort, as if the hive-mind of the student section instantly recognized where a student needed to be hoisted aloft in celebration.
(There’s surely an equation that explains this accuracy.)
The epitome of the downside is contained in this image:

Ushers at Notre Dame, you may suck our ass. The red-stater in us, the free-wheeling libertarian who wants you off our land right now, stranger, the bottle-wielding redneck in us wanted to pummel these lost Shriners with the nearest heavy object on sight. Ushers at most other venues we’ve been to serve less as traffic controllers and more as referees, since grown adults may read the ticket, follow signs, and find their seat without difficulty. Their primary function: kicking the confused, very drunk and confused, and the outright fraudulently misplaced out of the incorrect seat, as well as the occasional call to security when someone decides to take out the frustration of the fourth INT of the day by calling an ISO Smash to a rival fan’s face.
These ushers serve as nannies, not only refusing to allow any and all funness to occur outside the student section, but actively quieting fans down and quashing standing. You want to know who Hitler’s willing accomplices were? These people. One minute they’re telling you to sit down, and the next minute they appear outside of your house asking where your neighbors are. Screw these people in the ear; in our perfect stadium, they’re thrown screaming off the upper deck by the angry masses.









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Bullfrog says:
True story: An usher kicked me out of Lou’s last home game because my buddies were making me do push-ups (I was not object to the idea, but as I was a 145-pound freshman at the time, I was also not consulted on the idea), while someone two rows in front of us was passed out and turning green from over imbibing.
I have softened on my stance because I believe a good chunk of their draconian manner is forced upon them from on high, but I can fully understand telling them to suck your ass.
October 23rd, 2006 at 1:18 pm
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Dave says:
No porta-parquet tailgate dancing?
October 23rd, 2006 at 1:28 pm
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J-skool says:
1.) Until I watched this game (end), I couldn’t understand the Brady Quinn hype for Heisman. Though the final TD resulted more from strong SMMMaaaarghGIA effort (or weak Nebraska D effort), Quinn did get him open with the pump fake (3 defenders went for it). The Heisman, by its modern nature, goes to guys with plays like this one on the reel. Then again, I’m probably working a moot point here. There’s no way hell Troy Smith doesn’t win it, barring injury. That there is a bad dood with plays like Quinn’s on the cutting room floor.
October 23rd, 2006 at 1:29 pm
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Domer02 says:
Amen to the Ushers. I have always and always will believe the ushers at ND stadium do far more harm than good. Apparently, to our idiot usher, the 50 or so adults wanting to go for a piss at halftime were not smart enough to actually do it ourselves. He had to do a traffic cop and literally stopped traffic coming up, to allow those going down to get through and then let some people out of a row…. I’ve never seen something so dumb before. He literally jammed up our entire section so effectively NOBODY got out of their row in under 15 minutes. I absolutely hate them with all my heart.
October 23rd, 2006 at 1:32 pm
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Learned Hand says:
hear hear
October 23rd, 2006 at 1:32 pm
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Sean says:
I’m sure their chaperones were not letting them out of their sight. For fear that parquet would be discovered.
October 23rd, 2006 at 1:33 pm
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tzubear says:
Of course they are ordered, God hates ugly. As bullfrog pointed out “a good chunk of their draconian manner is forced upon them from on high”, way high.
October 23rd, 2006 at 1:34 pm
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Stacy Keibler Loves Me says:
Tailgate Videos?
Mr. Swindle: Did any tailgatery in the tomfoolery category go on over there?
Did you have a chance to visit the ND-MBA party?
October 23rd, 2006 at 1:35 pm
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Nick says:
First of all – did you guys have fun?
Second – I love that you call out our ushers. F*** them. Beyond useless, they reduce our home field advantage. Not allowed to stand or cheer? Disgusting.
October 23rd, 2006 at 1:36 pm
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Rick says:
I’m not sure if it’s iconography or not but you should listen to Don Criqui’s radio call. FYI – Besides having one of the coolest voices in broadcasting, Criqui is a loyal alum who, legend has it, flies an ND flag on a pole next to his house.
http://pjraueniv.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/hesgoingin.mp3
October 23rd, 2006 at 1:37 pm
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Jon (Austin) says:
Opinion on the tailgating?
The ushers are an in-stadium version of the NDSP. Yes, the Notre Dame Security Police, I prefer the Notre Dame “special” Police. Rent-a-cops with too much time and money, see Super Troopers. They have ATV’s, freaking ATV’s, honestly they could use the walk.
But these still are only the stooges, the gate keepers to the real tightasses, the dreaded res-life comittee. Hander outers of community service, calls to parents, fines for the most serious of crime, being, drunk in your dorm, having a party, carrying more than a case of beer on campus at a time, or GASP boning your girlfriend after hours… actually at all if they catch you…
I can go on but…
October 23rd, 2006 at 1:38 pm
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irishdevil says:
Screw the ushers. Last year at the UT game they stopped me and my college roommate from doing pushups with his four-year old son. The kid weighted all of like 45 pounds, and there was no way his dad (or I) would let him drop. So the ushers come over and threaten to eject us if we don’t stop immediately. They are killjoys, and they aren’t even nice about it.
But enough about those bastards. Glad to see you appreciate ND Stadium for what it is: a beautiful anachronism. If it weren’t for the TV cameras (and TV timeouts), the gameday experience itslef is no different there than it was 50 years ago. Old school at its finest.
October 23rd, 2006 at 1:38 pm
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Cardiac Kids says:
Do Catholics drink?
October 23rd, 2006 at 1:46 pm
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DomeDude says:
Re: Post 10:
The NDSP has graduated from ATVs. They now have Segways.
October 23rd, 2006 at 1:46 pm
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Stacy Keibler Loves Me says:
Weis vs. Dorrell:
Jokers.com – I think the Bruins Nation.com brats are a joke. But, they may be on to something.
Watching the game it seemed quite obvious that Dorrell is just not a Division 1 level type coach. In the final minutes he gave the ball back TWICE to ND. Poor coaching to not attempt to win the game, but to play not to lose. Poor Dorrell looked on the sidelines like a kid who was about to get spanked. He showed no leadership.
Meanwhile, Weis was looking like the cat’s meow, like he was about to eat someone’s cheese.
But, Quinn and Howard Stern should get the lion’s share of the pats for this win.
October 23rd, 2006 at 1:48 pm
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crazy tom says:
FYI- those ancient wooden seats are frequently broken during the games. And those that break and aren’t in the student section (a small fraction, given the much higher propensity for students to be standing on the bleachers and frequently(in good games, anyway) jumping on same) are usually replaced before the end of the game. It’s an odd sight to see a guy come running up the aisle with an 8 foot long 2 x 8 and a bunch of power tools…
October 23rd, 2006 at 1:51 pm
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canuck says:
Notwithstanding all of the positive and negative hype, if Quinn reprises the MSU and UCLA endings against U$C the only thing standing in the way of a Heisman is it being awarded to the whole tOSU offense.
October 23rd, 2006 at 1:52 pm
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crazy tom says:
Cardiac Kids- Does the pope shit in the woods?
October 23rd, 2006 at 1:52 pm
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Orson Swindle says:
Crazy tom, that’s usually an indicator of a good fight at an SEC game.
October 23rd, 2006 at 1:53 pm
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Jon (Austin) says:
No way, Segways… I rest my case
October 23rd, 2006 at 1:53 pm
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Bond8204 says:
haha i agree with all the comments on ND ushers…
i would have to say NDSP goes on the BOTTOM of the food chain though, with stadium ushers just barely above. Reason? I have met a FEW cool ushers–our freshman year section guy let us put him up for crowd pushups–but i have NEVER, EVER met a decent NDSP officer.
the supertroopers comparison is exactly right–moustaches and all. they hound all over a situation if they suspect alcohol is involved. if the situation even remotely resembles real police work they cream themselves, writing a campus-wide email about how some guy came up to a girl while she was eating dinner, touched her boob, and ran away (”the man was last seen running towards the bookstore”….i’m not making this up…).
Generally it was a BEAUTIFUL day for tailgating and the game was phenomenal in the last 3 minutes….so hope you guys had a good one.
October 23rd, 2006 at 1:53 pm
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Odell 51 says:
While the ushers at ND are a bit of a pain, it is the 80 year old alumni that donates at least 20k a year for his seats that is the problem.
They hate standing up, clapping, and cheering. In his mind that is the job of the students, and his seats are well away from that lunacy. He wants his ND football quiet, his hot coco warm, his usher yelling at everyone that isn’t him, and his limo parked outside.
This is Notre Dame football……
October 23rd, 2006 at 2:00 pm
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crazy tom says:
Any of the slightly older than myself ND alums have any recollection of the handling of the “Blue Jogger” by NDSP?
October 23rd, 2006 at 2:01 pm
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Desmond Brady says:
If Quinn somehow wins the Heisman after completely pissing himself against Michigan, I’ll cry. I’m not sure why having to desperately rally your team against mediocre opponents is deemed Heisman-worthy. Has he had a good game yet this season against a quality opponent?
October 23rd, 2006 at 2:03 pm
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Will Collier says:
This entire thread reminds me of the warm, fuzzy feeling I got a few years back when I heard that the Auburn University Police Department had been disbanded and replaced with normal city of Auburn cops. As we used to say in my student days, “You can’t spell stupid-ass without AUPD.”
October 23rd, 2006 at 2:05 pm
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Odell 51 says:
While I am a die hard ND fan, I think it has to be said. ND is the worst 6-1 team in college football. I hope I am wrong, but I think the USC game is going to prove all of our deepest fears. That ND still isn’t a top 10 program.
October 23rd, 2006 at 2:07 pm
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rob says:
Orson, your video perfectly captures a LSD induced hallucination. What really makes it though is the announcer demanding attendace at mass after the game. Play on an 8 hour loop and there ya go–acid without all the vomiting or petty thivery that seems great at the time.
October 23rd, 2006 at 2:08 pm
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AllWhoYonder says:
I hate to admit it, Odell, but I agree with you. We will be the equivalent of a non-BCS 10-1 team when we head to USC. It really shows something when your strength of schedule is “helped” by the biggest come back in D-1A history.
October 23rd, 2006 at 2:09 pm
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Stacy Keibler Loves Me says:
Canuck:
Quinn seems to have his way with cream puff teams and has to work very hard to win against mediocre and middle of the road teams, such as ucla, Georgia Tech or Michigan State.
Against quality opposition, Quinn ends up eating grass all day long, and that is why Weis grows it long for the USC game.
ND, with that so-so defense and two or three quality offensive players…. USC will have its way with them.
October 23rd, 2006 at 2:09 pm
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Dave says:
Do Catholics drink?
Ever been to New Orlans?
October 23rd, 2006 at 2:11 pm
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Sam Mathews says:
When I walked down toward the usher, he looked me right in the eye and said, “Have a safe trip home. Thanks for coming to South Bend.”
I picked my jaw off the ground and ran out of there as fast as I could. Frightening.
October 23rd, 2006 at 2:11 pm
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NewAZTiger says:
I’m beginning to be really befuddled by the national perception of ND.
Sounds like a nanny-state, unless those calls to your parents about drinking in your dorm room and boning your girlfriend went something like this….
“May I speak to Mr. NewAZTiger?”
“This is he.”
“Yes, we have some good news for you. Apparently, your son isn’t quite the tool you thought he was when he turned down a full ride at FSU, Auburn, Georgia, and Florida to attend ND on his own dime. Yes, his GPA has suffered from his classload and part-time job, but you’ll be happy to know that we’ve confirmed that he was absolutely blasted out of his mind this weekend – mostly alcohol – and even better – he is not gay as he was boning this hot chick (at least, by midwestern standards) until about 4 in the morning. Congratulations.”
The only way that conversation could be better is if it included that they had confiscated all on-campus video taken during the football game and confirmed that my son wouldn’t be on YouTube dancing like a white drunken idiot on a Parquet floor.
October 23rd, 2006 at 2:12 pm
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Dave says:
Orleans, even.
October 23rd, 2006 at 2:12 pm
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AllWhoYonder says:
So Orson, how did you like the 4th quarter PSA by Officer McCarthy?
October 23rd, 2006 at 2:13 pm
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oc phil says:
USC is not Michigan State or UCLA.
Those close USC victories over Wash and WSU don’t look quite so bad after those teams played Cal and Oregon this week.
October 23rd, 2006 at 2:16 pm
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Bill says:
The rich old guys are why the ushers are the way they are. Why the f*** did they get rid of alumni alley? I had 3 games in there last year, it was great. I didn’t have to listen to the old guys yell at me to sit down because we weren’t in the student section. It is a f***in footbal game, stay home if you don’t want to cheer. The corner from Section 20 to Section 23 is the worst, it’s too bad the Shark scored right in front of them.
October 23rd, 2006 at 2:22 pm
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tzubear says:
I agree with the assesment of ND’s chances vs the Trojans. USC’s LB’s are just too fast and will be blitzing Quinn often.
October 23rd, 2006 at 2:22 pm
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Stacy Keibler Loves Me says:
No Fun ND:
Seems like attending a game with the Father Confesssser right next to you in full regalia would kill any sort of fun, which I imagine going to a game at ND would be like….
October 23rd, 2006 at 2:23 pm
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Wes says:
The AUPD was bad. But the newly empowered Auburn City Police is just as bad, IYAM. Through into the mix Opelika PD and you have a solid group of over-powered idiots.
October 23rd, 2006 at 2:29 pm
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Rex Cramer says:
Holy Shiat!
Just when I thought my level of respect for Fucla couldn’t go lower you throw out that amazing clip of a clown in a blue suit juggling to get the crowd going – cause you know nothing gets a football fan going quite like some juggling.
Maybe Hugh Johnson can post an interview with the NCAA’s premier juggler.
Amazing, after years of watching the Ruins embarass themselves on the field, I missed this act.
Orson, your keen insight is incredible and nothing escapes you.
October 23rd, 2006 at 2:29 pm
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crazy tom says:
Jeez, all you ND fans are a bunch of pansies. Look here- we’re going to roll through the next 4 weeks of candyasses, giving the backups plenty of playing time in each game. Then we’re going to hand the Trojans their asses in a hat.
October 23rd, 2006 at 2:30 pm
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Uncle Smokey Stank says:
I suggest a full body massage prior to game time for anyone over 6′ 2″. Those little wooden spots for you to sit will have your ass, back, and legs hurting when it comes time to leave.
October 23rd, 2006 at 2:34 pm
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canuck says:
Don’t bother telling us AFTER Quinn thumps U$C that he isn’t Heisman worthy. Y’all flubbed your chance to say that by saying it’s impossible.
October 23rd, 2006 at 2:39 pm
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John B. says:
Do Catholics drink?
Is is not an official Catholic function unless alcohol is involved, we even drink at mass every Sunday…a little Catholic humor there, spare me the hate mail, I’m a cradle Catholic.
While the stadium is a bit stale at times noise wise, and the tailgating is massively restricted by ND (no charcoal grills, severe alchohol restictions at times, no entry earlier than 7AM game day and everyone out of the lots by 3 hours after game time), it is still a fun time. Not up to SEC standards (from what I have heard) but then again the SEC is another tailgating level entirely.
ND stadium is often more like visiting a rowdy edition of the Ivy League…too many rich well to do alumni that are there to be seen rather than to root for the Irish. It used to be different 20+ years ago.
As for the dancing, well, I am a white-bred Polack and have no room to talk. I dance like that when I am sober…
Had I read last week that you guys were coming to S Bend, I would have given you the grand tour of our fine town and its drinking establishments. You could even go to the less than spectacular College Football Hall of Fame. Hell, I would have kicked my kids out of their bedrooms and given you guys a break on your hotel expenses.
October 23rd, 2006 at 2:49 pm
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tcblue says:
just an fyi on the lack of noise you noted — it was mid semester break at nd and many (most) of the student body was not on campus. 2 comments on that tradition…are you kidding me? midterm break!! isn’t thanksgiving only a month away?? and nice communication between the administration and athletic department to schedule a home game during said week!
and finally, GO BLUE!
October 23rd, 2006 at 2:49 pm
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ray-gin-cay-jung says:
the ND chip on the keibler elf’s shoulder seems to have grown to legendary proportions…4 vapid posts in one thread…ridiculous…
very nice to see most ND fans (and non-ND fans alike) have learned to ignore his fruitless, caustic demagoguery…
October 23rd, 2006 at 3:03 pm
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RedRoot says:
Are you wearing white, parachute pants in the picture of the bleacher seats?
October 23rd, 2006 at 3:05 pm
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Orson Swindle says:
No…but we should have.
October 23rd, 2006 at 3:08 pm
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tjf says:
as i tried to explain it to a few guys who were in south bend for the first time, most of the crowd at the typical nd game (usc last year not included) is not there for the game, per se. they’re back there to visit notre dame, reconnect with old friends, tour the new buildings on campus, etc etc. part of the allure of attending notre dame is the fanatical pride that comes not from having a great football team, but from *attending notre dame* itself. if the game’s gravy on a great weekend, you never get anything like a night crowd in knoxville, or an average game at the swamp.
add in the the crushing ticket demand and a lottery system for seats that favors the uber-donors, the supertrooper ushers and a lot of old men in shamrock pants, and you get an underwhelming home field advanatge. it sucks, but it’s nice to know that when it really counts we can dial it up. i’ve been to world series, super bowls, a national championship game and a handful of massive college football and basketball rivalry games, and the usc game last year was the best environment i’ve ever been in. and this comes from a sox fan in attendance at one of the 04 combeack alcs games against the yanks. too bad it only happens once every ten years or so.
October 23rd, 2006 at 3:13 pm
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Wooderson says:
Stadium Ushers do suck badly. I got kicked out my last game senior year for throwing marshmallows. Apparently, my parents saw me getting kicked out on NBC, as they called me about 30 seconds after I was walked out of the stadium. My father was dying of laughter, and didn’t really give two shits.
As for the whole sex thing, yeah it does kind of suck to have the possible repercussion (expulsion if caught) hanging over your head, but then, it is Catholic school…It wouldn’t be nearly as much fun getting laid at a catholic school if it wasn’t in some manner illegal. It definitely heightens the excitement of “I hope we don’t get caught”.
October 23rd, 2006 at 3:16 pm