BLOGTOBERFEST: PROJECT RUNWAY EDITION.

HEY! hw much effort is it to give a little spoiler warning there for those of us who Tivo Project Runway (cause the 10 pm start time PT is just waaaay past anytime I want to be awake)…not that any of the afformentioned makes us the least bit gay either….blogger faux paux!

TIVO forces a question of etiquette: how concerned should you be in an asynchronous media environment of those who have scheduled their media viewing outside of the schedule?

We propose that you should assume everyone else hasn’t.

Not a day goes by without some kind of brown not reference. And just think, all those kids wanted to do was play My country tis of thee on their recorders…

Yep, Lewis invented the term ‘Cryin’ about your daddy drunk’, and it was inserted somewhere between ‘Why yes, I am a neurosurgeon, and that is my Mercedes’ and ‘No the divorce is final and I got to keep the vasectomy’. My favorite anecdote from Lewis, as related by one of my professors at Ole Miss who had been thru similar times, was the time Lewis got drunk with his lawyer and accountant, after his third divorce, and between the three they came up with the magic formula for Lewis: instead of getting married again, he would just every four years find an ugly woman that he didn’t like, and give her a house.

I’m sure TCOAN doesn’t fit either of those criteria, right Orson?

“They should bring Chicago Hope back for another season though. Seriously.”

That almost brown-noted me…

No, she does not. And that is an epic story.

the debate is not the public’s Tivo viewing habits which might be summed up in the phrase “give me tivo or give me death”…but the amount of effort it would take to squeeze in the additional eight words warning Project Runway spoiler alert…proceed with caution in the nearly 5,000 words you Wagner power paint across the internet on a daily basis!

Fair enough. We’ll add it.

as it happens, there used to be a group in the UF engineering dept working on sonic weaponry…

Yeah, you f’d me because of the lack of a spoiler warning.

Apologies! Warning added!

For the record, I can’t watch that (great) show ever again. Jeffrey winning was too much for me to handle.

It confirmed everything I hate about fashion in the first place. The pseudo-intellectual, angsty asshole won. Unreal.

Too bad – the show was addictive.

And seriously, how did Michael NOT win? He’s going to be outfitting the hos for hip hop videos for a long, long time. Pitiful that he lost.

Yay Flannery O’Connor!

I’m just saying, if you have to make a disclaimer that everybody can watch it, maybe that’s, you know, a sign. I’m just sayin’!

Catholics vs. Convicts Returns (Ivy League version): http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15308538/

“Handbeaded evening gown with a plunging neckline” sounds more like Laura’s work to me. Aside from the cringe-inducing collar and shoulder treatments, her line was quite elegant.

And Michael lost because his collection blew. He needs to find his “oeuvre”, which, if you listen to the judges, is clearly sportswear.

Does this make me gay? Gotta keep it on the DL.

I recently caught an episode of “Mythbusters” where they tested for the brown sound. No dice. But the show was great as always.

Tivo rulez, but the spoiler problem is the worst with football games. With so many score crawls and updates it is pretty much impossible to not know the score if you record a second game while you are watching one at the same time.

What’s the other book, Orson?

OC Phil,

That’s what duct tape on the bottom of the TV screen is for.

Signed,

MacGyver

Project Runway?
You are all SOOOOO gay.

Everyone knows “Dancing with the Stars” is where it’s at. (Sidenote: Mrs. Gamecock is starting to develop an unhealty crush on AC Slater because of that show. Should I be concerned and, if so, how much?)

This, maybe?

Grizzard had quite a ’stache his own self.

Orson, I feel your pain.

I’ve been known to get caught up in a few less-than-masculine television show at the hands of my lady friend (at least I hope she’s the genisis of your obsession).

Shit happens.

She had me enthrawled with “Flavor of Love.” That’s right, I said it.

And yes, I feel dirty just admitting that.

I cannot believe that douchebag won with his freakin garbage-bag looking dresses that remind me of the thing the chick in “Fight Club” was wearing in the morning that she said she got from the second hand store… errr… I mean “I have no idea what the hell you are talking about”

The brown note: http://youtube.com/watch?v=UuyAAq2MjD4

Uli’s collection was far and away the best. Go Germany!

erm, I don’t watch that show and I’m not super excited about a new season of Top Chef

for a moment, I thought you were going to say that [NAME REDACTED] won on Project Runway.

First read Lewis when I moved to Greenville, SC in the late 70’s. Superb stuff. Missed his writings all these years.

I feel a little bad that I’ve become addicted to watching Lost (TV is so beneath me), but after seeing how many of you queers there are out there watching worse stuff, why, I can feel my manhood returning.

Er, yeah, everyone can watch it…

jeffrey’s collection was clearly the best. michae’s was very disappointing, though i never really got why people loved him in the first place. laura’s is very tasteful, but there is nothing to her work that ann taylor can’t do. uli makes great resort wear, and i was more impressed with her stuff than i thought i would be, but there was just nothing new about it.

jeffrey’s stuff looks great on the models, is different, and, really, was the best as a group. people don’t really understand that a “collection” is suppose to be just that. you can’t just throw a bunch of pretty dresses up there. they have to be connected. jeffrey’s did that, and uli’s did not.

also, jeffrey seems like a cool guy. they made him seem like a serious asshole, but no more than laure’s passive-aggressive bullshit. i would have killed that bitch.

Pete, that other book is The Brothers Karamazov. It’s got the saddest scene in the history of literature: the chapter called “Boys” where Kolya talks with Ilyusha.

Although we might have to include a third, since Boys of Summer will have you reaching for the sleeping pills in the final chapter.

Sorry, Adam, but you’re wrong. Everything Jeffrey did was retreaded Vivienne Westwood. Orson put it best when he said that there wasn’t a single outfit Jeffrey designed that wouldn’t have fit right into the movie the Crow. I just don’t get why it’s so innovative— it’s all recycled Anime, Gwen Stefani castoffs.

Without P.J. O’Rourke we wouldn’t know what ‘good’ was? Isn’t that like saying “Without Nestor from Bruins’ Nation, we wouldn’t know what ‘happy’ was?” Granted, P.J. has his moments; just as I’m sure Nestor once emitted a smile back when Rick Neuheisel’s sister was doing tampon commercials.

Adam, Jeffrey was NOT a nice guy. I forget annoying hippy chick from earlier in the seasons name, but the way Jeffrey went on and ON about her mother was completely unacceptable. I don’t care if the mother was a bitch, you talk that way about someone’s family non-stop like that, you deserve to have your jaw broken.

I never forgave Jeffrey for that.

Oh my god, how did I go from “I just watch Bravo to appease my girlfriend” to arguing about designers on a message board.

This is a low moment for all of us on EDSBS, haha

re Project runway…

1) Heidi Klum can tell me I’m out anytime. Just whisper “’wiedersehn” one more time, liebchen!

2) As long as we’re getting our inner bitches out: of course the winner was the pretentious fashion jerk; they aren’t interested in the things that people WANT to buy. He won because he had a coherent aesthetic progression, not because you’d want to be seen out in it.

That’s why Uli got dismissed with the back-handed insult of “your clothes will sell;” sure, to under-nourished, pricey second and third wives and Euro-trash exhibitionists in south Florida…

Michael’s clothes didn’t make any sense; he should have stuck to what he was good at. He will make serious cash, just not with that stuff.

As for that red-headed rule-mongering, suspicion-creating ass and her ongoing obsession with making people feel better with a dash of make-up and some kind of Gatsby-esque fantasy outfit that stays in your closet until you lose patience with your brood-mare existence and lock the bedroom door to keep the litter out while you dissolve into tearful fantasy… sorry, where was I?

really, TCOAN? while he definitely has the post-punk thing, i think he did some really interesting stuff. the progression of tat green striped fabric through his collection, until the final dress, which was beautiful, was very impressive. I didn’t like his two formal dresses, but the rest of it was very good i thought.

and i’m sorry, but i totally take jeffrey’s side on that “angela’s mother” bullshit. she told him the colors and the “body sack” style that she wanted to do, and then, when he brought back the colors she asked for, she got all bitchy. the final project he made for her was super-ugly, but it was burka-esque, just like she wanted. and it had the colors she asked for. the woman was a pain in the ass, and while i’m probably a less direct person than jeffrey, i would have been pretty pissed off as well.

Jeffrey definitely had reason to be mad at Angela’s mother. But he wouldn’t let it die. There was absolutely no reason to keep complaining about it for as long as he did.

 Honestly, if my mother did something horrible to someone I know, and they kept bitching about it to me, no matter how at fault my mom was, I would not react well. If I were in Angela’s place, Jeffrey would have been leaving Project Runway in an ambulance. Mothers are off limits, always.

while it was mean to keep at it, it was obviously driving angela and others crazy. while PRW is a good reality show, it is still a reality show, and the point is to win. if you have something that could potentially throw others off their game, you take it and run with it.

I Though I Was Bad, But You Guys are Worse Dept:

What is going on here?!

I thought I was getting soft, looking forward to new episodes of Desperate Housewives and in the past seeing Ms. Keibler either dance up a storm or wrastle a bit here and there…..actually, I am probably as bad as you guys too…..

Man up time!!!!!!!!….Stranko, please cue up some cheesecake shots, especially some with young ladies with big hooters….

Seconded.

I came here to see the Chiefs! Not this… bunch of… pussies.

Adam, reality show or not, throwing others off their game or not, it was a dick move. You said he seemed like a cool guy, I disagree. While I do not think you can get a feel for a person on a reality show, there are some things that will always strike me the wrong way. Repeatedly bellitling someone’s mother, even an annoying wannabe hippie’s mother, is not something a “cool guy” does.

Plus, his designs were edgy in the same way American McGee is edgy. That’s not a compliment.

why is someone’s mother out of bounds? if she can be a bitch, then he should be able to react.

When I was busy IV’ing Guinness at the sports bar this saturday, I was thinking that watching football, for nine hours straight, was the best thing about not having a GF for the first time in four Falls. But now I realize that not being forced to watch shows like PW is the best thing about it.

Nonetheless, I’m secretly grateful she introduced me to the WB’s “Superstar”. I want you back, baby!

/shrug
Maybe it’s just me then. I just think I would stand for someone going on and on about my mother like that. Even if she was being a bitch. I thought that was a pretty common belief; talk about someone’s mother and you pay the price.

Orson, I have always considered the saddest moment in The Brothers Karamazov is when Ivan truly realizes that no matter how lofty his world could be, the real world just doesn’t act like that. The character of Ivan might be the best drawn character ever created by an author, and the Dialogue between Jesus Christ and the Inquisitor is simply unbelievable. I wish UGA still had Grizzard this week. He would have known what to say to the fans who, like me, just keep stopping abruptly in the midst of what I am doing and exclaiming, “the football team just lost to Vanderbilt…at home.. on Homecoming!”

If you are a fan of Dostoevsky, I would also recommend Under Western Eyes by Joseph Conrad. Brilliant characterizations.

Maybe it’s just me then. I just think I would stand for someone going on and on about my mother like that. Even if she was being a bitch. I thought that was a pretty common belief; talk about someone’s mother and you pay the price.

Sure, but what are they going to do on that show? Rip his seams? Use the needles for a jailhouse tattoo supplement to the neck art?

Adam-

I think that Laura said it best during the reunion show— Angela’s mom gave Jeffrey a harder time than any of the other mothers; she was the only one who didn’t just seem to be thrilled to be a participant. She did that hurt-puppy thing that women fond of victimhood do, which is super-annoying, but on the other hand, I’m sure it wasn’t a very pleasant experience for her either, to see Jeffrey practically gagging when he was assigned to her. She knew she was unattractive and was defensive and insecure, and Jeffrey was a paranoid asshole who couldn’t accept that he didn’t have the skills to design for someone who wasn’t Avril Lavigne (his musical equivalent, coolness-wise.)

They were both awful, whiny, and annoying, but only Jeff was a regular cast member, and only Jeff seemed to be ripping off Miss Macross pageants every week. I still think he should enver have won the jet-set challenge— how could the judges think his outfit was so daring when Mig wore nearly identical crap on Rock Star: INXS last year? And looked lame in it?

I think that Michael’s collection was a mess, Laura’s was lovely but one-note (good call re: Ann Taylor), Jeffrey’s was derivative, and Uli’s was scaled-up loungewear. I still think Uli’s was the best collection overall.

I did really like Jeffrey’s last dress, though— the zipper seaming was fabulous.

edited for spelling errors and to add a bit more content.

Trojan, I’m not suggesting that I expected Angela to assault him on the spot. I’m just saying that I don’t think he’s a “cool guy” as Adam said, because of the things he said about her mom. It irked me, and I cheered against him because of it.

(which is me admitting I fell for Bravo’s editorial descision to portray him as the villian—oh well, I’m a sheep)

I think there’s a generation gap at work here. Is anyone else over 40 mystified by the idea of people watching PR? Oh sure, it’s gay, but I think there’s a generational thing at work as well.

i think i’ll agree with that. i’m 25, and gay, though it seems that there are a TON of straight guys who like the show. i suppose what is “gay” and what is not is dissolving, which is a good thing, i think.

  while the fact that it’s about clothes seems pretty “gay,” it’s a cool show people people actually have to have some ability. the idea of even sewing a seam is so foreign to me, much less making a whole outfit.

Trojan, I’m not suggesting that I expected Angela to assault him on the spot. I’m just saying that I don’t think he’s a "cool guy" as Adam said, because of the things he said about her mom. It irked me, and I cheered against him because of it.

That’s fair enough; I had assumed he was a jackass early on and run with that.

But I think that a good punch-up would only improve the show for the next season. Even a couple of bitch-slaps would do.

i do think that this year wasn’t as exciting as the past two. the first year was CRAZY, what with jay, who is the best they’ve had, and fucking wendy. year two had daniel vosovic, which is all i need to say. this year, the crazy ones, angela and fucking vincent, were just annoying, instead of crazy funny. all four finalists were not as good as the past ones, and heidi, michael kors, and the elle magazine lady are starting to drive me crazy. also, tim gunn will be mine. oh yes, he will be mine.

Sonic weaponry…
I can’t help saying that in any voice other than that of The Spanish Inqusition.

Nooobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton! Amongst our sonic weaponry are fear, surprise, a fanatical devotion to the Pope, and a nasal, highly comedic voice. Oh, and the comfy chair…

Orson does a frighteningly accurate Tim Gunn impersonation.

depending upon how much he looks like TGunn, you may have a fight on your hands, TCOAN.

Pete, that other book is The Brothers Karamazov. It’s got the saddest scene in the history of literature: the chapter called "Boys" where Kolya talks with Ilyusha.

Although we might have to include a third, since Boys of Summer will have you reaching for the sleeping pills in the final chapter.

Orson,
There are a couple parts of that book that are the peak of literature in my opinion: Alyosha’s Speech by the Stone, and my favorite, Mitya’s defense attorney’s speech. Excellent, excellent book.

shoot low boys, they’re ridin shetland ponies

i started reading lewis grizzard books before i finished elementary school… he was like the father who didn’t beat me that i always wanted

For those of us (perhaps only me, given the comments above) not into fashion, and in the name of all that is masculine, can we insert some Univision women yang to balance the PW yin?