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BLOGPOLL DRAFT, WEEK...SOMETHING OR OTHER.

More guesswork that despite all our protests rapidly molds into a shape much like others' poll ballots. We refuse to bump USC down until they lose because they're just the kind of jerk team to struggle through their season and then make us look like complete assfaces by blowing out whomever they face in a bowl game or key rivalry game. Florida also takes a dive, while the rest is the shambles you've come to expect in our poll. Notes and apologies follow the hott MGoBlog table code.

Again, pay little attention to the arrows, since they measure movement from a prior draft we must have done while extremely intoxicated, which could have been any time in the past few hours weeks never mind.

Rank Team Delta
1 Ohio State --
2 Southern Cal 1
3 Michigan 1
4 Tennessee 4
5 Texas --
6 Louisville 1
7 California 2
8 Auburn 4
9 Florida 5
10 Notre Dame --
11 Georgia Tech --
12 Wisconsin 14
13 West Virginia 7
14 Oregon 2
15 LSU 5
16 Clemson 3
17 Oklahoma 2
18 Arkansas 4
19 Nebraska 7
20 Rutgers 1
21 Pittsburgh 5
22 Texas A&M 4
23 Missouri 8
24 Boise State 1
25 Wake Forest 3

Dropped Out: Iowa (#17), Virginia Tech (#18), Georgia (#23), Houston (#24).

--Michigan would, we guess, cremate that USC team and shoot its ashes into space in a head to head. But that's asinine Dungeons and Dragons fantasy ball, which we can't rule our poll lest our imagination get the better of us and we find ourselves rolling the 20-sided die on a hypothetical Rutgers/Ohio State national championship game. (It's also that kind of thinking that gets votes for "Chuck Norris" and "Boise State" in in the top ten, so there you go.) Until USC loses, they don't budge, leaving OSU/UM as the San Andreas Fault that will shake this season into shape.

USC: has us playing 20-sided die fantasy ball in our head.

--Tennessee, Texas, and Cal are all one loss leviathans and in that order. Louisville's rubbing shoulders though not as convincingly now that Miami's celebrating victories over FIU, while Florida and Auburn enjoy one of those polling logjams after the weirdest game of the year. (No offensive touchdowns for the victor, controversial replay call, and a suppposed Heisman candidate self-immolating on national televison? Superlative earned.)

--Notre Dame camps at number ten because they've bought the place and decorated it tastefully in Scandinavian Moderne, though they plan to flip the spot for a healthy profit once they start playing competition again.

--WV, down, Wisconsin, up-dah. Why? Because Wisconsin's brawny, plays good defense, has a senior quarterback, and a running game anchored by nearly a ton of beef on the line and P.J. Hill, a 242 lb. back who at this rate should be up to a robust 360 lb. Heisman-winning 9,000 yard rusher by his senior year.

Meanwhile, West Virginia looks less and less appealing as your oddball bet for the national title, especially with Louisville lurking in their inbox. The appalling dead spot in the middle of their schedule may be to blame, since they've done nothing but win games. Yet think of that team matching up against anyone with a disciplined, attacking defense and a precision offense like Louisville's and let the cogs start spinning...they lose, right? Then again, are we playing 20-sided die D'nD ball with the 'Eers here? -6 modifier for Swindle following successful casting of Fog of Ambiguous Ranking. Player may not counter.

--Plaudits for PIttsburgh and the Wannstache; demerits for Iowa for scorching faithful pollsters who bumped them despite evidence to the contrary.

--The rest is a sad mess. Comment, discuss, excoriate below.

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You’re waaayyyyy off on West Virginia. The Syracuse D isn’t even that bad and Pat White ran through them like he was playing pop warner kids. If you’ll notice, they haven’t even needed White and Slaton to be effective in the same game yet. They just take turns killing the opposition.

Meanwhile, I’m pretty sure you had my own Scarlet Knights lower in your final draft last week, so they move up more than 1 spot, and probably should move up more considering the hard on you had for Navy early in the season. 34-0? That’s impressive even against a service academy, and Teel finally showed he’s a D-1 qb.

by Dave K. on Oct 17, 2006 9:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Notre Dame gameplan:

Phase 1: 4-1 in September
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: PROFIT!!!

The Hammes Notre Dame Bookstore can outfit all of your speculative properties with our monogrammed ND. It is considerably more expensive than IKEA, but the overall quality is roughly the same.

“I wanted to buy this crucifix, but it turned out to be plastic, and instead of that little sign that said ‘INRI’ it said ‘Beat USC’”

-Jesus Christ, only son of God and satirical bookstore customer

by irishoutsider on Oct 17, 2006 9:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Self-immoliation…mmmm…tasty…. I’ve still never seen a Heisman Candidate Senior QB cough up the ball 3 times in under 10 minutes in the 4th quarter. (Yes, I’m still laughing at the ball bouncing off his chest while he flopped on the ground as time expired.) Quite the implosion, though his demeanor never changed.

As for the call, seems like it wasn’t so controversial after all. Second such call upheld by the SEC.

The 27 points AU scored were the second most in its history without and offensive TD. The most – 30 against LSU in the infamous “Pass-LSU-Pass” game of 1994.

And finally, video of Tuberville’s halftime speech (NSFW – Language)

by NewAZTiger on Oct 17, 2006 9:32 AM EDT reply actions  

I sure am glad to see that you’ve still got enough brains to have Tennessee ranked above California… unlike Mr. Tim “The Douchebag” Brando. (Thanks, Joel) Desomond Howard can also fit into the douchebaggary thanks to his brilliant “Gameday Final” commentary; but I’m not sure that he has an official media vote.

Listen to Brando try to defend his “logic”…it’s pretty comical as it makes ZERO sense.

by Aerobab on Oct 17, 2006 9:41 AM EDT reply actions  

So USC stays put but WVU falls, both for the same reason? I admit to being a Michigan fan, but as bad as PSU is, they still would beat everyone on WVU’s schedule. Michigan just broke two of their QBs. I swear I started wondering who was going to go in after the D-line bent the 3rd stringer in half.

Just because Mich and tOSU get to play each other to decide the real #1, doesn’t justify Michigan not being ranked #2 going into the game. It is pretty clear that Mich would beat the NFL jr team from LA better than half than time. That means that they should be ranked higher.

by Shop Smart, Shop S-Mart on Oct 17, 2006 9:53 AM EDT reply actions  

P.J. Hill is another in a long line of glorious running backs that won’t be good pro backs to play for Wisconsin.

Of course, you Florida guys know a thing or 2 about great college QB’s that went on to tremendous pro car…..actually, never mind.

by Rabid Badger on Oct 17, 2006 10:02 AM EDT reply actions  

I’m confused Orson. A team that whipped the team that beat your team this past weekend, only managed a 63-7 victory, yet slips 4 spots in the BlogPoll?

News flash: Auburn could win out, and they might still be a spectator when your Gators are playing in the Conference Title Game.

by Will on Oct 17, 2006 10:15 AM EDT reply actions  

..and before you complain about the quality of opponent, let’s see what the teams they’ve beaten did last week:

Alabama: Won
Vandy: Won
Auburn: Won against somebody, I think

by Will on Oct 17, 2006 10:21 AM EDT reply actions  

You’re giving Wisconsin waaaaay too much credit. Hopefully you’ll knock them down a peg or two when D-1AA North Dakota State either beats Minnesota, or loses by less than 14. Right now, beating the Gophers isn’t very tough.

by Fire Glen Mason on Oct 17, 2006 10:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Anyone who has WVU, Louisville, and Rutgers spread out more than 5 spots is going on past years, run up scores, or on those 20 sided dice.

Those 3 play each other soon enough and we’ll all find out how they compare since their biggest wins to date aren’t enough to rank them convincingly : Rutgers over Navy 34-0, Louisville over Miami 31-7, West Virginia over Maryland 45-24

At least Boise St beat Oregon St 42-21 which beat Washington 27-17.

by Canuck on Oct 17, 2006 10:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Will – True Freshman QB in the SEC = several losses.

Arky played great against Auburn, but true freshman QBs lose games in this conference. Now, if Arky beats LSU, it proves the AU game wasn’t a fluke.

by NewAZTiger on Oct 17, 2006 10:55 AM EDT reply actions  

The guys over at BlueGraySky have your plaid pants on order for this weekend. Enjoy the game.

by Sean on Oct 17, 2006 11:03 AM EDT reply actions  

..NewAZFan:

 0 Losses so far; that’d be less than your Jr Starter.

by Will on Oct 17, 2006 11:15 AM EDT reply actions  

I am in no way claiming that WVU is a top 5 team (unlike the AP, USAToday, and BCS polls – take note), but you just put 8 one loss teams over an undefeated WVU. And of the 6 undefeated teams left, you put us 5th – at 13th. Save Rutgers, whom I think would give a real game to most teams in the top 25.

Yes, I know that our schedule isn’t what many would call “challenging” with power-houses like Eastern Washington and what-not, but I am saying that our QB ran for 247 yards over a reasonably solid Syracuse D this weekend (and yes, I know that this was possible b/c of the double/tripple coverage on Slaton all day).

You jumped Wisconsin 14 spots for beating an unranked Minnesotta? Of course my favorite is bumping up Louisville for struggling against Cincy. Nice move.

I think we’re having our first real fight.

by CouchBurnin'Girl on Oct 17, 2006 11:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Um, Dave
Syracuse’s D is ranked 108th, I dont know what you consider bad if that isn’t considered bad. I know all WV has done is won, but it seems to me that we have this discussion every year about Louisville, and how has that turned out? I would like to see WV play someone decent, instead of the Jr. High Flute section they’ve gone against so far. I guess we’ll see come January.

by Bhors on Oct 17, 2006 11:20 AM EDT reply actions  

I heart CouchBurnin’Girl. What is this a friggin ACC website? Why all the hatin’ on the big east? You think jorts are so much better than camaros and burning couches?

by Dave K. on Oct 17, 2006 11:21 AM EDT reply actions  

I must have made too good of an argument about the Mountaineer defense. Should I be burning couches or not Orson? I need to know before it starts raining and ruins the whole thing. At least a top ten team.

by Johnny on Oct 17, 2006 11:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Bhors …’Cuse has given some pretty decent offenses some trouble. Look at the Iowa (admittedly without their starting QB) Wake and Pitt games. One of the reasons they are ranked so low is what WVU just did to them.

Granted, WVU does need to play somebody good, I just have a feeling that even if they beat Louisville and RU, those wins are going to be discounted nationally because they were against Big East teams, even though those teams are ranked.

by Dave K. on Oct 17, 2006 11:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Dave #16
I agree with you on that one, if/when WVU beats them, you will probably just be hearing "well, it was only against UL and RU, and they suck cuz there in the Big Least. Like I had said, keep winning and we’ll see in January. It’ll be interesting how a D would stop the WVU O, with White having more rushes than completions, it’s not exactly Vince Young-like, but still no one has yet found a way to stop them. Will you see more 3-4 like back in the day to stop the option? Who knows, but count on being knocked on cuz of that schedule for quite some time to come.

by Bhors on Oct 17, 2006 11:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Michigan wouldn’t send USC’s ashes into space. This blog above all should know — we save that for our own alumni. And not just one or two, but three at a time.

Space, bitches. Motherfucking space.

by Jeremy on Oct 17, 2006 11:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Good call to heed my suggestion to add Wisconsin after your draft last week, and even better idea to just go ahead and rocket them up higher this week. The Badgers only loss is their road game at Michigan, which was a game in which the held the lead and were tied at halftime. Their ground attack, and their offense entirely, is even better than they were last year when the ran up and down the field against Auburn in their bowl. Wisconsin will wind up 11-1.

Crap. I hate saying that. I hate the Badgers too. But they’re legit and (as usual) being underrated by everybody.

by D on Oct 17, 2006 11:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Wow, if the Trojans fall to either Cal, Oregon, or ND, which is certainly possible, the OSU-UM game on 11-18-06 should just be considered the national championship game, since whoever wins will be facing an inferior opponent in Glendale….

by Pants McPants on Oct 17, 2006 12:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Your rating of Wisconsin will make you look good when the season is over. Very nicely done.

by Badger Tracker on Oct 17, 2006 12:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn, moderation is taking a loooong time today…

Looks like the Leghumpers won’t be breaking their 23 year streak of futility against AU/UF. They haven’t beaten both of us in the same year since 1982.

by NewAZTiger on Oct 17, 2006 12:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Let us not forget that WVU also struggled to amass something like 153 rushing yards against Eastern Carolina. There’s just not much evidence one way or the other yet.

by Phil K. on Oct 17, 2006 12:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Wait, Clemson drubs a bad opponent while GT barely hangs on to win against a bad opponent and we drop behind them??? Wow, get your life right.

by Willy Mac on Oct 17, 2006 12:43 PM EDT reply actions  

irishoutsider, reusing Revue bits again I see?

by NDTom on Oct 17, 2006 1:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I’d agree with your pick of USC if the Cardinals would release Leinart and he could finagle another half year of eligibility.

But why should I lament when JD Booty can make so many more throws than Leinart – according to the SC coaches.

by SeaTrojan on Oct 17, 2006 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

NDTom,

Are you going to be doing kegs and eggs this weekend by any chance? I’m coming out to South Bend thursday and I need a place to do some early morning pre-gaming on saturday.

by Wooderson on Oct 17, 2006 2:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey Booty does have a stronger arm and can physically throw the ball farther than Leinart. Booty in his first 1/2 season looks as good as Matt did in his first season (he came on late that year too). It’s not fair to compare Booty to where Leinart ended up (and he looked damn good in the Monday Night Football game last night, too bad the Cardinals choked like that).

Maybe USC 2005 = tOSU 2002

by oc phil on Oct 17, 2006 2:27 PM EDT reply actions  

I am not planning on being back in South Bend for any more homegames. Considering the games I’ve gone to since I graduated were: MSU ‘05, USC ’05, and UM ’06 it’s probably best if I never go to a home game again.

by NDTom on Oct 17, 2006 2:39 PM EDT reply actions  

If Cal beats USC and Ohio State knocks off Michigan, what happens then? Assuming either WVU or Louisville stay undefeated, does Ohio State get a glide path to the title, or does a 1-loss SEC champ get a turn?

This could be the year that brings the whole BCS farce crashing down, and I can’t wait.

by VandyJ on Oct 17, 2006 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

The Arizona Cardinals are pretty much a college team. I mean, I’m sure tOSU could pound them. If Matt Leinart can play there, why can’t he transfer back to USC. We need him right now. Then I’d say we have a good chance against UM and tOSU.

by Jeff from LA on Oct 17, 2006 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

VandyJ,

If Penn St. was able to make it look like a game against tOSU for three quarters, I’m pretty sure either WVU or Louisville can make it a game for 4. But then again I’m biased as a Big East fan…

by Dave K. on Oct 17, 2006 3:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Dave K- let’s not get into the argument of cherry picking a team’s worst performance, OK?

Because if the same L-ville that needed the clock to run out to avoid getting tied by the CInci (whom OSU sleepwalked it’s way to a 38-7 win against) shows up, they’d get pummeled….Ditto the West Va team that played against East (cough, cough) Carolina….

Sheesh, the fact that those sad opponents played that well against your BE powerhouses whilst OSU has been hammering teams like Texas, PSU, Iowa, Michigan St, etc alone speaks volumes….(Didn’t MSU HAMMER Pitt this season too?)

by Pants McPants on Oct 17, 2006 3:55 PM EDT reply actions  

What about Wake Forest? They beat a team “on the rise” in the ACC and drop 3 spots?!?!? Huh?!?!

by DeaconGal on Oct 17, 2006 4:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Orson, with all due respect, your logic is seriously flawed. How can you say USC stays at 2 if they don’t lose, even if they struggle against shit competition, while WVa drops out of the top-10 by kicking ass against crap teams?
Based on what we’ve seen so far, you can’t say USC’s better than any of the teams you’ve got in the top-10. Michigan’s dominated just as much as OSU so far. There’s no way they should drop.
A poll’s supposed to be your opinion of how good a team is right now. Not who they’re playing next, or how many losses they have, or where the team was last week.

by j.j. on Oct 17, 2006 6:09 PM EDT reply actions  

jj- USC has solidly beaten two of the other ranked teams (the current SEC west and Big 12 north leaders). WVA has no quality wins at all.

And winning 51 out of the last 53 games does mean something as well. I don’t recall other teams in past years getting as much flack for style points after wins, especially this early in the year. I think the Auburn situation from 2004 has hyped up everyone’s paranoia and increased the “beauty contest” factor in the polls.

by oc phil on Oct 17, 2006 7:19 PM EDT reply actions  

DeaconGal-

As stated above, the arrows don’t mean anything. The Deacons fell out of the “second” poll last week after the loss to Clemson but came back in this week after beating State.

by TP on Oct 17, 2006 7:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Pants,

Ohio State “hammered” Penn State? What game were you watching? It was 14-7 most of the way until Anthony Morelli showed some poise in the clutch and threw two late TD passes……to the wrong team.

by Corso's rental car on Oct 17, 2006 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I am not planning on being back in South Bend for any more homegames. Considering the games I’ve gone to since I graduated were: MSU ‘05, USC ‘05, and UM ‘06 it’s probably best if I never go to a home game again.

How’s your influence on road games? If it’s anything like your home game record, SC alums might be willing to put up airfare and a ticket to the game…

by DC Trojan on Oct 17, 2006 10:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Gotta love any ballot that ranks teams for their fall 2006 performance — which necessarily implies putting W.Va. outside of the Top 10, given their last quality win was over Georgia. If Orson did the same to Louisville, he would be worthy of serious props (as well as allegations of consistent analysis. Speaking of L, what about their victory over Cincy merits their moving up?).

A quick philosophy question: given Peterson is out for the season — and OU is obviously a worse team without him — how can you justify moving them up after his injury?

by Allaha on Oct 17, 2006 11:08 PM EDT reply actions  

NDTom-

Don’t give up—the first three ND home games I went to as an alum were the FSU debacle in ’03, the BC second-half choke job in ’04, and the USC game in ’05. But dammit, we won on my fourth time back (UT ’05). Maybe you will have the same “luck.” Or maybe I am destined only to see ND beat UT (I also saw the game in Knoxville in ’04).

by irishdevil on Oct 18, 2006 8:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Seriously Orson. Listen to Will. Please do explain the dropping of the only team undefeated in SEC play, the team that destroyed the team that just beat your Gators. A team that handled its business against their crappy 1-AA opponent this week. As Will pointed out, the SEC teams the Hogs have beaten all won this week as well.

And NewAZTiger – the Hogs aren’t asking Mustain to win games, just to manage them at this point. Their fortunes rest in the legs of McFadden and Jones and far less on the arm of Mitch Mustain at this point. Or have you forgotten that Darren McFadden (like Fred Talley before him) is STILL RUNNING on your Tigers…

by Chris on Oct 18, 2006 10:11 AM EDT reply actions  

For all of you talking about how good Arkansas is, remember the only reason they beat Alabama is because they had a freshman kicker who missed three kicks to win/tie including an extra point. That’s the same Alabama team that barely beat Ole Miss last week. Let’s just keep everything in perspective here. Which SEC team has a QB you would trust to win a game for you? I’m not sure if I trust any of their QBs, but I know Mustain isn’t on that list (at least not for another year or two).

by David on Oct 18, 2006 11:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Hey David— I’ll take him over any other QB in the SEC.

Who you gonna take? Big-Game Leak— oh wait.
Newton? Has he won a conference game against a ranked team?

Georgia’s…oh heck. How about…oh wait….Ainge?

Yeah, I’ll take Mustain, over anyone, possibly save Russell, with a game on the line. If its a meaningful game, I’ll take Mustain.

by Will on Oct 18, 2006 11:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Ohio State beat Penn State 28-6…..all points count, no matter when they were scored….And again, nice cherry picking one game (played in 30 mph wind and rain, no less) to dispell a trend….

by Pants McPants on Oct 18, 2006 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

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