MARCUS THOMAS CLEARED–BACK FOR LSU
Scoop is back for LSU, and he’s bringing his friend Marcus Thomas with him. In case you missed it, Thomas has been suspended for the past three games for two positive marijuana tests over the summer. The university’s official statement:
“The committee has heard an appeal from Marcus Thomas and made a recommendation to amend his sanctions. The appeal process followed the proper procedures of the committee, which included a recommendation that is made independently by the committee and then approved by the Athletic Director and the President of the University. Marcus has some work ahead of him, but he has been grated the opportunity to play in the LSU game. Beyond that, he will continue to have a set of responsibilities and obligations for which he will be held accountable.”
Tookes discharges an AR-15 in an apartment complex…nothing happens. Thomas tests positive and earns an automatic five game suspension that !poof! becomes a three game suspension before the biggest game of the year. Umm…
YAAAAAYYYYYY! Marcus Thomas is back! (Plugging fingers in ears, covering eyes…)
He’s hungry. Don’t ask why.
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John says:
The man smoked pot, probably still smokes pot. What great crime has he committed. Those who would say that weed is illegal and evil are pansies and should probably be on another board.
Besides, if James Caan can watch Latimer paint his face like a skeleton and look the other way then Urban can sure as hell let the fact that Scoop was doing gravity hits in the pool in the O Dome slide.
October 6th, 2006 at 1:33 pm
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rjsplow says:
nd1990,
sorry to pile it on, but your post had absolutely nothing to do with football and everything to do with fondling your sanctimonious, engorged and completely unwarranted ego that many irish fans seem to carry around. it’s been interesting to watch how bitter you irish fans have become since the “ND National Championship/Quinn for Heisman” suckfest train has derailed. I guess I wouldn’t have been so offended at your comment if the realization that your school’s administration is hypocritically racist wasn’t the first thought to pop into my head after reading it….
October 6th, 2006 at 1:35 pm
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Because They Can says:
So what about the driving on a suspended license part?
Oh, that’s right. UF still has Western Carolina on the schedule for that one…..barring bad weather, of course.
October 6th, 2006 at 1:40 pm
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gator84 says:
“So what about the driving on a suspended license part?
Oh, that’s right. UF still has Western Carolina on the schedule for that one…..barring bad weather, of course. ”
Oh my Gawd! I didn’t know he was cited for a traffic violation! By all means, he should be thrown off the team, out of the SEC, and lashed with a cane until he bleeds! Since when do we live in Singapore? Besides, we’re saving Western Carolina for suspending Chris Leak. Seems he was doing 25 in a 20 on his Vespa while looking at hot UF coeds, got a little excited and was cited for a “wet” reckless!
Because They Can, thanks for the laugh of the day!
October 6th, 2006 at 1:49 pm
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Because They Can says:
Funny, UGA had a guy suspended a couple of weeks ago for that exact charge.
Singapore, cane lashing, etc……ah, the hyperbole in the Gainesville air on a crisp Autumn day!
October 6th, 2006 at 1:58 pm
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AllWhoYonder says:
gator84–
Not to defend nd1990, but using rankings to compare schools is like letting human polls decide a national champion. It is subjective to the criteria used. Forr comparison to the one you cited, look at US News rankings for National Universities (ND is 20, Florida 47). A little different, eh? What it comes down to is that the one you cite uses criteria based in the amount of web publications that cite a particular college or university.
Now, maybe this is a good way to rank universities, maybe it isn’t. nd1990 may have “spoken out of turn” about the “academic integrity” of Florida in this instance, but the rankings you cite have as much bearing on the statement as Ty Willingham’s race did in his firing (I’m looking at you rjsplow).
October 6th, 2006 at 2:31 pm
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adam says:
i don’t have a problem with saying that ND has a better academic reputation than UF. but it’s stupid to act like UF is a clown school or something. It’s the 13th best public school in the nation, and i’m praying for a 170 LSAT score so that I can get into the law school.
October 6th, 2006 at 2:34 pm
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AllWhoYonder says:
gator84–
One other thing. This is directly from the website you cited:
“The aim of this project is not to rank the institutions according to quality of the education provided nor their academic prestige, so it should not be used for comparing them or as a guide for choosing university by candidate students.”
Is that clear enough?
October 6th, 2006 at 2:35 pm
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Stacy Keibler Loves Me says:
RE: TCOAN vs. Little Woman – Comment # 33:
Ms. TCOAN: I would be careful about fighting ‘em little people. I have seen enough wrastlin’ shows to notice that those little buggers are tough….tough as nails.
October 6th, 2006 at 2:40 pm
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Stacy Keibler Loves Me says:
Urban Meyer – Notre Dame Sour Grapes Dept:
It seems that quite a few Domies have been acting ‘holier than though’ on this thread. A few are glad that Urban turned down ND, it seems.
To me it is quite apparent that some Domies still have not gotten over the major league spurning of their beloved ND Du Lac from U Meyer. Get over it! Get a life!
At Florida, better facilities, better worm dancers, better weather, better chicks, no discrimination against the Black Man in comparison to ND. It was a no brain choice for Urban Meyer.
Charlie Weis, on the other hand, had been passed over for more jobs than the “homely-chick-hanging-out-with-the-cute-chick” at the local bar on Saturday night, and took the ND job right away. Those sloppy seconds ain’t that bad, actually. So do not cry too much, Domies.
October 6th, 2006 at 2:51 pm
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NewAZTiger says:
Mak, you missed the point. Urban could continue his suspension regardless of what the AD and president said.
Like, 4-6 games for THC.
UF is now 3 years behind the Bama’s bastion of whiffle-ball-bat punishment. Start the clock.
October 6th, 2006 at 3:14 pm
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CMC Irish says:
There isn’t an ND fan in the world who wants any coach but Weis. You know, the guy who’s team with all these supposed terrible disadvantages finished ahead of UF/FUCUM and will do so again this year. How many superbowl rings does Urban have again???
October 6th, 2006 at 3:20 pm
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zzgator says:
“How many superbowl rings does Urban have again???”
Yawn.
October 6th, 2006 at 3:27 pm
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LSU Meathead says:
CMC…last time I checked, they don’t give out super bowl rings for MNCs.
How many MNC rings does Weis have? Even better, how many BCS victories does Weis have?
October 6th, 2006 at 3:37 pm
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gator84 says:
“gator84–
One other thing. This is directly from the website you cited:
“The aim of this project is not to rank the institutions according to quality of the education provided nor their academic prestige, so it should not be used for comparing them or as a guide for choosing university by candidate students.”
Is that clear enough? ”
Guess I need to put that criteria into my next Google search! It wasn’t worth more than a quick Google to me to respond to ND but glad you had the time to research. Yonder, you got my point, which is ND was out of line to question UF’s academic integrity. Glad you weren’t defending him.
October 6th, 2006 at 3:39 pm
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Phil K. says:
Make fun of our fat coach and our embarassing grad students all you want, but Notre Dame is not a racist institution.
Notre Dame’s athletes are students first and athletes second. That’s why we graduate 95% of our football players. If I were a highly touted recruit with some semblance of intelligence, black or white, I know where I’d be headed.
(Good on UF, by the way, for graduating 80% of the football team. Shame on…well, the whole rest of the SEC besides Vandy.)
http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/stories/2006/09/27/ncaagradchart.html
October 6th, 2006 at 3:50 pm
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Orson Swindle says:
Phil K.–
To Florida State, just as Lorenzo Booker did?
October 6th, 2006 at 3:50 pm
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zzgator says:
“Make fun of our fat coach and our embarassing grad students all you want, but Notre Dame is not a racist institution.”
Says a fan of the FIGHTIN’ IRISH.
October 6th, 2006 at 3:54 pm
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LSU Meathead says:
Nothing says racial harmony more than a drunken violent leprechaun.
October 6th, 2006 at 4:00 pm
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adam says:
orson, did slowrenzo make that comment as well? i know myron rolle did. he wants to be a doctor. except, his school had to start a med school because their undergrads weren’t getting into the med school at UF.
October 6th, 2006 at 4:01 pm
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Phil K. says:
Orson – snap.
zzgator – Notre Dame is proud of its Irish Catholic heritage. We also proud of the fact that we were fighting bigotry when Jim Crow was king.
“There are several legends of how Notre Dame came to be the ‘Fighting Irish’…One possible origin is the violent 1924 confrontation between Notre Dame Students and the Ku Klux Klan in South Bend. This event is described in Todd Tucker’s book Notre Dame Vs. the Klan: How the Fighting Irish Defeated the Ku Klux Klan.
The most generally accepted explanation is that the press coined the nickname as a characterization of Notre Dame teams in the 1920’s as a result of preexisting Irish stereotypes, the widely reported events of 1924, and the grit, determination, and tenacity of Coach Knute Rockne’s football teams of the era. Although Notre Dame alumnus Francis Wallace popularized it in his New York Daily News columns in the 1920s with respect to the university, as early as the civil war Father Corby and the Irish Brigade of the Union Army had been dubbed “The Fighting Irish.”
October 6th, 2006 at 4:07 pm
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zzgator says:
Wow…do you domers ever throw out an elbow from all the self-congratulatory back patting?
October 6th, 2006 at 4:27 pm
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Phil K. says:
Call us arrogant if it makes you feel better. Just can the “racist” bullshit.
October 6th, 2006 at 4:34 pm
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adam says:
hey, it’s not notre dame’s fault that touchdown jesus wrote “the bell curve.”
October 6th, 2006 at 4:39 pm
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SeaTrojan says:
Leave it to a bunch of Notre Lamers to hijack a thread that should be devoted to midgets and pot and turn it into a scintillating courtroom defense of their university.
Geez, the fact that reefer’s on the training table for the Fla. D-lineman and Orson is viewed as a Bunyanesque stud by the li’l ladies is slightly more interesting than grad school rankings and civil rights.
C’mon people.
October 6th, 2006 at 5:12 pm
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Harvey Wireman says:
Phil K. – ND racist?
Paul Hornung of Notre Dame made the following racist comment about African Americans: “Notre Dame, needs to lower its academic standards to “get the black athlete.” “We can’t stay as strict as we are as far as the academic structure is concerned because we’ve got to get the black athlete. We must get the black athlete if we’re going to compete.”
October 6th, 2006 at 5:44 pm
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Orson Swindle says:
Harvey, we saw Paul drinking at J’nJ’s here in ATL, and we blame the alcohol. Dude bends elbows long time.
October 6th, 2006 at 5:49 pm
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Socraticsilence says:
NDFANs-
Please Note that Urban Meyer not only has more BCS victories thans Weis, but also that Florida finsihed with the same amount of wins as did the Irish last year. Finally, please remeber that Urban Meyer has actually beaten Top Flight Competition something Weiss and the Irish have yet to do.
October 6th, 2006 at 6:09 pm
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gator84 says:
“NDFANs-
Please Note that Urban Meyer not only has more BCS victories thans Weis, but also that Florida finsihed with the same amount of wins as did the Irish last year. Finally, please remeber that Urban Meyer has actually beaten Top Flight Competition something Weiss and the Irish have yet to do.”
Easy there..they did manage to lose a close one to USC. That loss was thier best win last year!
October 6th, 2006 at 6:25 pm
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Phil K. says:
SeaTrojan, we didn’t bring it up.
Harvey, I’m talking about Notre Dame as an institution, not one graduate. The fact that you can’t or won’t make the distinction tells me all I need to know.
Must I point out that Hornung’s comments would still put him left of the ACLU at many SEC tailgates?
October 6th, 2006 at 6:37 pm
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secrules says:
I kno wfor a fact that the only Marcus Thomas did wron was accidentally roll down his window at a stop light while some thugs in the car next were hitting their j’s. he is totally innocent.
there IS a god. I’m changing my prediction. UF now wins.
October 6th, 2006 at 7:08 pm
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Harvey Wireman says:
Phil K.
Here is a section of an article in the ND Observer written about how an African American was treated at Notre Dame, not LA, NY or Oxford, Miss.:
“…Incidentally, aside from her two fists of fury, she carried nothing but a pack of cigarettes so I am unsure what violent harm she would have caused to five male cops all her size or bigger. She was made to cry. She was made to believe she was going to jail. She was, upon reflection, treated in a manner not equal to the situation. Why was she forced to the ground? Surely, she was not the first intoxicated person the Notre Dame Security/Police have ever run across.
I am greatly angered and offended for her, not only because her birthday week will not be the same, but also because this is Notre Dame, not simply a downtown street in some inner city. We are a family. If a member of my family is treated this way, I cannot sit idly by.
We live in dorms; we eat the same foods; we take the same classes; we go to the same parties; we see the same people. The only difference is that she is black and I am white. I do not know, but I wonder if the only difference between us was also noticed by those five security officers? But perhaps this was just the routine Notre Dame security treatment. In either case, though, whether racist or overly militant, this is not Notre Dame treatment.
This event occurred on the Notre Dame campus. If it happened once, could it not happen again?”
http://www.nd.edu/~observer/11062001/Viewpoint/3.html
October 6th, 2006 at 8:05 pm
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Harvey Wireman says:
Phil K. – Racism in ND Part 3:
From the ND Observer again, here is a kid writing about his experience at Notre Dame:
“The number of racist remarks I have heard since arriving on campus only a few months ago is staggering.”
(((((So, if a bunch of people, including some Domers, are pointing out the obvious, that there seems to be racism at ND, I would suggest you not just brush it away like it does not exist. H.W.))))))
http://www.ndsmcobserver.com/media/storage/paper660/news/2005/11/08/Viewpoint/Racism.Still.Alive-1048617.shtml?norewrite200610062007&sourcedomain=www.ndsmcobserver.com
October 6th, 2006 at 8:12 pm
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mark wayne says:
This is all real interesting but can we get back to the original topic?
A committee from UF is reinstating a player after three games, right before the LSU game, mind you, when he was supposed to serve a five-game suspension?
This site (and the Florida fans) are very quick to point out when other SEC school’s players run afoul, but when it’s their own they hide behind a bunch of lame excuses (it’s the commitee’s decision, not Meyer’s). What a joke.
I guess if you continue to justify and rationalize this incident enough in your minds then it eventually becomes the truth, at least with the Gators’ fans.
SEC fever. Catch it.
October 6th, 2006 at 11:19 pm
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Bill says:
This thread has gone way stupid. By the way, Rockne hated the name “Fighting Irish.” And if the name reflected the ethnicity of the guys who actually played for the team, we would be the Fighting Polacks. I think the guys who run the site acknowledge that this is a shady decision to reinstate this guy and there is no reason for ND guys to beat their chest about it.
I graduated from ND in ‘95 but I went to West Point until I lost my arm in a car accident in ‘93. The only thing I have to say about my alma mater is that ot would be great execpt for all the f’in Domers.
October 7th, 2006 at 1:22 am
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Orson Swindle says:
Yes, Bill. That would be the right read.
October 7th, 2006 at 8:35 am
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Phil K. says:
I am so fucking sick of this thread.
Here’s a quote from that Observer piece you decided not to use, Harvey:
Well, one thing led to another. That afternoon, near the library, she wound up being surrounded by five Notre Dame security officers: two officers in a car, two upon bikes and one on a motorcycle. The story as told by an eyewitness is that she was intoxicated and shouting an obscenity…The officers are said to have claimed that she was belligerent and displaying violent tendencies.
One thing led to another, huh? Yeah sometimes that gets the cops involved. The police have cracked down hard on underage tailgating; I’ve seen people tased at off-campus parties for less. So basically what we have here is the author of an editorial (not a newspaper article) injecting the issue of racism without giving any evidence for it. She asks whether maybe it’s possible that the woman in question was treated differently because of her race. She doesn’t answer her own question, nor give any justification for asking it in the first place. A nice little rhetorical trick, if you’re writing a paper for freshman comp. Or if you’re Scoop Jackson.
The second piece you linked, a letter to the editor of The Observer, is hardly more convincing. Am I disappointed to hear that a freshman heard some racist jokes in the dorm? Absolutely. I never claimed that the entire student body is fit for the Mormon Tabernacle Choir. Racism exists in America, and Notre Dame is part of America.
However, you still fail to make the distinction between the actions of a few individuals and the actions of Notre Dame as an institution. I already pointed out your inability or unwillingness to do so in my last comment. This is simply idiotic
October 8th, 2006 at 9:32 pm
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Phil K. says:
I’d hate to be lumped into that category, Bill and Orson, and maybe I’m the idiot for gratifying the trolls, but it’s not like I’m arguing about SAT scores here.
October 8th, 2006 at 9:36 pm
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Steedle says:
I realize the moment has long passed and was never relevant in the first place, but the college rankings that were linked actually placed Penn State ahead of Penn. Heh.
Other notables:
35. Yale
36. Princeton
80. Brown
85. Dartmouth
94. Vanderbilt
100. Georgetown
I’m sure most people already considered the University of Hawaii to be better than Dartmouth and Mississippi State better than Georgetown, but now we have incontrovertible evidence. Thank you, webometrics.info!
For the person who attempted to support an argument with this web site, it shouldn’t have even passed the sniff test. Then, if you actually read the methodology, you would see that the it is intended to rank the “web presence of institutions” using various internet search engines. The express purpose of webometrics is “the quantitative study of the Internet and specially the processes of scholar communication in the Web.” You might have also noticed that the title of the page you linked is “World Universities’ Ranking ON THE WEB.”
You’re not acquitting the UF education well today. “Foot, meet mouth. You can bray like a donkey after you see this list…”
Too funny.
October 9th, 2006 at 2:15 am
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Funny blogger about Meyer - VolNation says:
[...] Funny blogger about Meyer This is over at houserockbuilt.blogspot.com, which is a Notre Dame centered blog, but has tons of football stuff. He takes part in a large blogger top 25 poll (the credentials to be involved are pretty long). Anyway, he has Florida #2 but makes light of the Marcus Thomas non-suspension. I’ll paste it. Welcome to number 2, Gators. An impressive sequence of wins catapults the Gators to the penultimate spot. This is a reward for their performance so far, but the conventional wisdom at the House Rock Built suggests that it’s a temporary honor. Looking ahead to the Gators’ schedule, I would be stunned as hell if they can live through the crux of their SEC schedule unscathed, particularly when it’s back-to-back-to-back. Granted, I’ll be the first to bow down and praise the great Robot Genius Urban Bowden Meyer and his infinitely wise slap-on-the-wrist suspensions for substance abuse should they run the gamut undefeated, but I’m guessing I’ll be availed of that duty sometime in the next few weeks. Seriously, though. Talk about coaching acumen. To observe a situation where a it’s useful to have a star defensive tackle back in your lineup and to have the gumption to revoke his marijuana suspension is a moment of profound coaching clarity up there with Knute Rockne’s invention of the forward pass and the "Win One for the Gipper" speech. Kudos to Coach Fulmer Meyer for shattering coaching conventions in the name of the success on the field. Big game tomorrow? Then allow me to roll that big-assed blunt! [...]
October 10th, 2006 at 11:11 pm