ALABAMA IS A HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE PLACE: GLORY DAYS WITH MIKE DUBOSE!
Another thing you’re bound to see this week: this video of Chris Leak and the Florida Gators getting a generous earful of the “Rammer Jammer” cheer, where everyone not wearing Orange and Blue screams along to the tune of a song written by Gary Glitter. The video leaves out several Alabama postgame traditions, too, like getting a fifteen dollar angioplasty from a street vendor before spending another twenty bucks for an actual deep-fried slice of Freddie Kitchen’s buttocks served to you by the man himself. (Ahhh, tastes like…interceptions, most likely.)
As bad as it may get for Florida historically–our lack of tradition, our smartass fan base, and we can say this about our recent history, at least: we don’t sing a song composed by an English pedophile to celebrate victory, and we haven’t lost to Louisiana Tech recently.
But they were good that year! Sure they were….









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Geaux Irish says:
Hasn’t Alabama already claimed the 2007-2010 MNCs in those totals?
September 27th, 2006 at 10:17 am
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Cool Hand Mike says:
Hazer,
Please!
Auburn – Mrs Lovey Howell
Alabama – Ginger Grant
September 27th, 2006 at 10:18 am
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Tater Salad says:
The MNC debate is absurd. Yes, some MNCs Alabama claims are a bit questionable. I personally hate that Alabama claims 1941. But anyway you slice it, Alabama has a lot more MNCs than a lot of other programs. I will take being recognized for a MNC any day over not being recognized at all. What does it really matter anyway?
And captaineclectic-
Claim that 1966 MNC don’t you? Yeah, that’s not arrogant at all.
September 27th, 2006 at 10:20 am
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NoleinTexas says:
Oh, we all have our demons. I have He Who Shall Not Be Named. Bama Has Dubose. UF has the Zookie Monster (L is for loser, which is good enough for me!).
September 27th, 2006 at 10:20 am
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Tiger VI says:
Auburn, Florida, and Notre Dame fans unite to heap ridicule on Alabama fans. Orson Swindle: a uniter, not a divider.
September 27th, 2006 at 10:20 am
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DurhamO says:
Counting NC’s is a little screwy. But, if we go by the NCAA official record book (and I’m not making this up), we see the following totals:
Auburn — 4 (yes, count ‘em, 4) titles — interestingly, not one of them is from 2004.
Alabama — 16 — that’s right, the NCAA actually credits more NCs to UA than UA does itself
Notre Dame — 21 — just like captaineclectic says (though his idea that it’s how “Alabama counts” is a bit overstated)
This thread is turning into a bad episode of CrossFire.
Just FYI, the link to the NCAA record book is:
http://www.ncaa.org/library/records/football/football_records_book/2006/2006_d1_football_records_book.pdf
September 27th, 2006 at 10:26 am
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Orson Swindle says:
Perhaps you could just turn it into an old installment of “Even Steven” from the Daily Show.
Alabama?
NOOO!!!
September 27th, 2006 at 10:32 am
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Boclive says:
We are unranked. We lost to ARKANSAS. I am not claiming any national titles or sec titles or third in the sec west titles.
Do NOT yell at our kicker. That is all.
September 27th, 2006 at 10:33 am
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Kecalf Bailey says:
Samford Hall
You are wrong.
Alabama has a larger undergraduate enrollment than Auburn as of this year.
We tied you in the game we recieved our nickname from, sorry it isn’t as original as yours is, not everyone can be tigers. wait…
We don’t pay players still, you know the NCAA keeps too close a watch on us now for that.
What’s wrong with the machine? The popular vote has won every SGA election in school history, if greeks care more about SGA than other people than so be it, we only make up 19% of the student body.
Most all of the NC’s we got are deserved and the early ones that AU fans think we don’t deserve in the ’20s and ’30s were actually important in putting southern football on the map.
We retroactively claim national championships we were given by smaller polls that are unexistent today, the football polling landscape was alot different then than it is now and we could argue this for eternity, but what is known is that if Bama “Still sucks” than AU is still “Not even a factor” when talking about good college football programs.
Doesn’t Georgia Tech have as many SEC championships as Auburn?
September 27th, 2006 at 10:37 am
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matt says:
ahh the “rammer jammer” video…couldn’t help but notice the 4 man defensive front, before kines lost his mind and started running this 3-3-5 crap they’ve been in this season. 3-3-5 is a WAC defense, the spread is a WAC offense, we know the success Urban had there.
Florida will fucking shred us on the ground. And then on third and long Kines will switch from the 3 man front to four wide and Leak (or worse yet Tebow) will pull a 25 yrd qb draw out of his ass.
September 27th, 2006 at 10:43 am
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NewAZTiger says:
NCAA awards zero national championships in footbaw.
http://www.ncaa.org/champadmin/ia_football_past_champs.html
The listing they have is just an incomplete compilation of other sources – mostly computer and opinion polls. Those computers are sneaky too… For example, in 2003, Sagarin’s MNC (yeah, he’s a BCS computer) spit out 2 loss USC over undefeated Ohio State.
September 27th, 2006 at 11:11 am
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NewAZTiger says:
s/2003/2002.
September 27th, 2006 at 11:12 am
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irishjihad says:
matt,
Kines installed the 3-3-5 last year for the UF game and employed it often in the game. Worked rather well.
September 27th, 2006 at 12:26 pm
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Rainmaker says:
NewAZ,
No shit? I guess that cost AU the half national title they claim from 1957? Sucks for you guys.
September 27th, 2006 at 12:27 pm
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Canuck says:
Anyone know if SMU actually claims any of 35/81/82? Looking at that NCAA page they pretty much lead in the itty bitty pieces category.
September 27th, 2006 at 12:27 pm
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LWS says:
We pride ourselves on hating everyone
http://loserwithsocks.blogspot.com/2006/09/hey-gheightors.html
September 27th, 2006 at 12:35 pm
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hazer says:
I have a feeling that no matter what stats and arguments are presented on this thread, that no ones mind will be changed even in the slightest. Example:
Auburn Fan: “You’re right Bama, we don’t deserve the 03 NC.”
Bama Fan: “Interesting point. I concede the 66 season to Notre Dame.”
September 27th, 2006 at 12:49 pm
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hazer says:
04, whoops
September 27th, 2006 at 12:49 pm
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Ltrain says:
I don’t know whose argument I’m helping, but in any event alot of folks don’t realize that back in the old days bowl games were considered consolation prizes and national championships were awarded prior thereto or without reference thereto, hence that championships for teams that later got waxed in a bowl.
September 27th, 2006 at 1:22 pm
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irishjihad says:
Orson, is this you?
http://loserwithsocks.blogspot.com/2006/09/orson.html#links
September 27th, 2006 at 1:42 pm
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NewAZTiger says:
It is rather interesting that the NCAA’s site only noted the BCS champion in 2005. Perhaps we’re moving closer to an official NC…
September 27th, 2006 at 1:49 pm
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captaineclectic says:
Notre Dame is the 1966 national champion according to the AP, Billingsley, DeVold, Dunkel, FB N e w s , FW, Helms*, Litkenhous, Matthews, National Championship Foundation, NFF*, Poling*, Sagarin, and the UPI (which is now the ESPN/USA Today).
In contrast, Alabama claims 1973 as one of its 12 “national championships, despite going 11-1 with a lose to an undefeated Notre Dame team in the Sugar Bowl, 24-23.
In short, Bama has no leg to stand on in crying about 1966, as it claims a title in a year it ACTUALLY LOST to the real champion, Notre Dame. Only Alabama could do that.
September 27th, 2006 at 1:52 pm
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captaineclectic says:
Oh, and NewAZTiger, I know that the Tide won’t be anywhere near New Orleans. But since that’s looking like a possible place for my boys, I have to root for a beatable opponent, right? I fear Auburn, Florida, and LSU a lot more than I fear Tennessee, Alabama, or Georgia.
September 27th, 2006 at 1:57 pm
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RedTide says:
Jesus H. Roosevelt Christ people!!!
We have gators to beat this weekend. IGNORE THE IDIOTS FROM AUBURN AND ND ALREADY!!!
CONCENTRATE!!!! We’ll worry about the tigers and (increadibly lucky) Irish later.
September 27th, 2006 at 2:15 pm
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WeagleWeagleWDE says:
Let’s just agree on this…
no one sucks more than UT (both of them)
Alabama…got no real problems with. I’ve met classless Alabama fans but 90% didn’t go there. They just live in the state.
Same with Florida State fans.
As for Gator fans…y’all run the gamut from crazy redneck, mullet trash to high class bull gator and insanely smart med students. I’ve met em all. Total cross section of America.
September 27th, 2006 at 2:17 pm
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RedTide says:
This is exactly what Orson was hoping for… he’s seen enough of these to know that Auburn fans would hijack the post and distract us from getting ready for Saturday.
September 27th, 2006 at 2:17 pm
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matt says:
irishjihad…you are a dumb fuck, they used a 4 man front 90% of the game
September 27th, 2006 at 2:21 pm
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matt says:
shula has recruited too many fucking dbs…maybe they’re just going with what they have
September 27th, 2006 at 2:22 pm
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AUAlum says:
I just read that Prothro had a third surgery on his leg.
Bama fans should be almost as angry at Dr. Les Fowler for botching the surgeries as they are at Shula for leaving him in.
I’m afraid Prothro will never play again.
September 27th, 2006 at 3:25 pm
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Kecalf Bailey says:
After interning for a doctor who saw the xrays and read all the reports, I am not expecting Pro to ever play again and definately never to be his old self.
September 27th, 2006 at 3:39 pm
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oc phil says:
Hey Alabama also claimed a split championship (AP)in 1978 when they lost head to head with USC (UPI champ).
USC got the nod in 2002 from the computers since they played an insane schedule and faced 9 ranked teams including Auburn, ND, Kansas State, and Colorado (back when the last 2 were still good teams).
But I have never heard anybody claiming that USC won the championship that year. It is mentioned in the media guide but not with the 11 “recognized” MNCs.
Overall that sort of thing is a good example of why computer rankings shouldn’t be given too much weight in the evaluation of teams.
September 27th, 2006 at 3:50 pm
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AUAlum says:
They should have let Andrews or Lemak do the surgery.
September 27th, 2006 at 4:06 pm
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Tater Salad says:
captaineclectic
This is the last thing I’ll say about MNCs. I figured you would bring up ‘73. I consider it pretty much a wash between those two years. But come on, you had Alabama winning a MNC in ‘64 and ‘65 (by either AP, UPI, or both), then going undefeated in the regular season and ND tying Michigan St., yet ND was awarded the MNC.
But right on RedTide, all concentration from here on out is on this weekend.
September 27th, 2006 at 4:37 pm
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Cardiac Kids says:
I think Bama can pull it out this weekend. It’s not that Alabama is that bad. I mean look at all the close games under Shula. It will come down to the kicking game again. If Shula doesn’t at least make it close (because QUITE FRANKLY Bama’s talent is not that much worse than Florida’s), then he will have proven that he can’t make adjustments and sucks as a head football coach. I’m not saying he has to win, but Alabama can compete with UF on a talent level. Depth may be a concern. Talent is not. It comes down to coaching.
September 27th, 2006 at 4:52 pm
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AUAlum says:
I disagree with you about talent.
I’d rank SEC talent:
1. LSU
2. UGA and UF
4. AU
5. UT
6. UA
Don’t care about the rest.
September 27th, 2006 at 5:23 pm
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captaineclectic says:
AUAlum, I think you’re talking to me. Your rankings of talent closely parallel my rankings of “fear”–you swap UGA and AU. For whatever reason, though, I think ND could take Georgia–maybe because I watched a lot of that Colorado game.
September 27th, 2006 at 10:46 pm