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LET'S NOT GIVE 'EM ANY BULLETIN BOARD TALK...D'OH!

All right, we're playing USC in L.A. on Saturday. Yup. USC: Destroyer of worlds, imploder of football powerhouses, screaming badass carrying an M-60 down the street like John Matrix. That USC. Rules one, two, and three are:

-Don't give them any bulletin board material.

-Bulletin board material? Refrain from giving them any.

-And and all communications which may be construed as "smack," "trash talk," or "pieces of verbiage which may be tacked onto the wall of the lockerroom and used for motivational purposes"...well, keep them to yourselves.

-And...oh, you have something to say starting cornerback Andre Jones? (HT: The Wiz.)

"When we beat USC, this is going to slingshot our whole season," said the junior college transfer from Naples, Fla. "We're ready to go in there and show the world that Nebraska's back on top - that the order is restored."

Perhaps we should review points one through three, Andre. See...


Fearless Leader Comrade Callahan cannot be pleased. Happy Mustache Wednesday, motherfuckers!

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Another JuCo transfer dumbass!

by PSUrob on Sep 13, 2006 9:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Take USC to cover this week.

by A5 on Sep 13, 2006 10:02 AM EDT reply actions  

nice, ’stache! Happy Wednesday…

by AllWhoYonder on Sep 13, 2006 10:04 AM EDT reply actions  

That’s good for 2-3 additional gratuitous touchdowns, scored after USC would have otherwise called off the dogs.

by Ohiodawg on Sep 13, 2006 10:08 AM EDT reply actions  

For all the talk about how banged up the Huskers secondary is, how come nobody has been stressing the fact that USC’s entire defense seems to be dropping like flies? They must think that Zac Taylor is a schmuck. They will be suprised.

Can’t wait until next year when USC’s comes here to Lincoln. Same WRs, same RBs, same line, plus Keller at QB.

by Chuck on Sep 13, 2006 10:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Funny he mentions a slingshot. The odds were the same for David vs. Goliath.

by Cool Hand Mike on Sep 13, 2006 10:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Hey A5, don’t bother w/ your bookie this week. Give me a call, I’ll take your bet.

18.5? No way. Huskers aren’t the Razorbacks.

by Lazer on Sep 13, 2006 10:58 AM EDT reply actions  

“scored after USC would have otherwise called off the dogs”…..LMAO, that’s rich…

Is Pete Carroll not coaching Saturday night?

by Pants McPants on Sep 13, 2006 11:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Now, my question is – does USC have any cheese? If so, is it non-dairy? My thoughts are that Andre better pack of loaf of Wonderbread, because it think they only do wraps in LA.

by PSUgirl on Sep 13, 2006 11:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Pants beat me to it. They day Pete Carroll, whose name by the way is in fact a girls name, calls off the dogs is the day the Patriots fire Belichick and welcome Carroll back with open arms.

by NDTom on Sep 13, 2006 11:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Regarding point #4, I assume this means Southern Cal is going to somehow score those points after the game has ended.

by Chg on Sep 13, 2006 11:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Mr. Jones will soon realize that it’ll be BOHICA time for the Huskers by the end of third quarter.

by SeaTrojan on Sep 13, 2006 11:38 AM EDT reply actions  

BOHICA….is that a new type of cigar?

by Aerobab on Sep 13, 2006 11:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Can’t wait until next year when USC’s comes here to Lincoln. Same WRs, same RBs, same line, plus Keller at QB.

That would be the same guy who held on to a 21- 3 halftime lead against SC last year, right?

by DC Trojan on Sep 13, 2006 11:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Bend Over Here It Comes Again, Husker lad.

A dorm floor at UC Santa Barbara charmingly labeled themselves such, much to the confusion of people on campus. When it was learned what it meant, some administration types and females were upset about it. Go figure.

by SeaTrojan on Sep 13, 2006 12:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, DC Trojan, maybe Keller will throw 6 interceptions next year to top his last performance against the Trojans.

by SeaTrojan on Sep 13, 2006 12:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh will you two stop blowing each other. I find it funny how arrogant USC fans are sometimes. I can’t wait until hubris sets in, like it hasn’t already been setting in already.

by Chuck on Sep 13, 2006 12:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Chuck,

The wings of Icarus will not melt this weekend or next year in Lincoln.

by SeaTrojan on Sep 13, 2006 12:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Herodotus’ 4 Stages of History

Koros: having enough and satisfied with it(Navy)

Hubris: violence, assault, grabbing for more(Texas Tech)

Ate: delusion – mad act, crossing boundary
(Andre Jones)

Nemesis: destruction (Auburn, approx, 6 PM EST, Saturday.)

Geaux LSU

by CK on Sep 13, 2006 12:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Chuck…its not like you brought up something that really had no firepower or anything…its not like Keller gave back the game against USC after leading his team to an awesome first half lead…its not like they lost by 10 are anything.

Oh wait…you did, he did, and they did.

We’re not too concerned.

by USCLink on Sep 13, 2006 12:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Chuck, you brought up Keller, I’m suggesting you not get too excited about ‘07 until you see whether or not the rest of the Nebraska team is good enough to overcome his choke-tastic-ness. Res ipsa loquitor, in the case of Keller’s qualities, it’s nothing to do with arrogance.

by DC Trojan on Sep 13, 2006 12:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Is it just me, or does Bill Callahan with a mustache look like Tom Selleck?

by Tom on Sep 13, 2006 12:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Either Andre Jones:

(A) Knows something nobody else knows, or

(B) He is a dumb ass for calling out the best football team of the past 50 years, not to stress the past few years.

I think the answer is “B”.

by Stacy Keibler Loves Me on Sep 13, 2006 1:19 PM EDT reply actions  

No post is complete without a mention of the absolutely amazing late-80’s steroid fueled Arnold movie Commando.

“Hey Sully, remember when i said I’d kill you last?’
“Yeah…yeah you did Matrix!”
“I LIED”

by daBears on Sep 13, 2006 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I have a different perspective on this.

I want to thank Andre Jones for his work to help motivate USC.

At first, I saw the spread balloon out to 18.5 and I was a little worried that this might be a trap game, that USC might look past Nebraska given that they’re playing them at home.

However, after Jones’ guarantee that NU is going to beat us at home, I’m definitely going to go with USC to cover………

by Jeff on Sep 13, 2006 1:32 PM EDT reply actions  

#22

“the best football team of the past 50 years”

What are you, ESPN?

by kevin on Sep 13, 2006 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

USC is so, like, teh bestest evah!! Corn-shuckers are teh suxxorz, just like mormons!!!

by Noke Hoke on Sep 13, 2006 1:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Res ipsa loquitor

An educated Trojan…now I really hate him.

by Phil K. on Sep 13, 2006 2:05 PM EDT reply actions  

more likely, a law student – again, more reason

by PSUgirl on Sep 13, 2006 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

more likely, a law student – again, more reason

Hey! That’s not true at all, but the truth is not much better: consultant.

If you give me your watch, I’ll tell you what time it is, plus functional specs for a replacement watch and an estimated time and cost to replace.

by DC Trojan on Sep 13, 2006 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

DC Trojan, in the words of the great Johnny Moxson, “Ah doan’t woant…yo’ lahfe.”

by Phil K. on Sep 13, 2006 3:14 PM EDT reply actions  

kevin:

"the best football team of the past 50 years"

What are you, ESPN?

I think during that during the past 50 years no other university has won as many national championships as USC.

(Alabama’s and Notre Dame’s championships were mostly during the leather-helmet days of college football, before the real thing got going.)

by Stacy Keibler Loves Me on Sep 13, 2006 3:18 PM EDT reply actions  

As for getting Keller, I’ll give you part of a picture that pops up occasionally on usc’s atheltics website

http://graphics.fansonly.com/schools/usc/graphics/usc-05-mid-m-footbl-1.jpg

Get used to it next year.

by Andy on Sep 13, 2006 3:24 PM EDT reply actions  

1. Andre Jones blew it for Nebraska. Thanks for pointing out that he is only a juco-smartass. Callahan will have serious words with him about it, no doubt.

2. Until the fuck-up mentioned above decided to put his dick in a hornet’s nest, NU had a serious shot at taking down the Trojans. Sleeper, looked-past, out-coached, whatever the dynamic: NU is the "most-ready’ for a big-time game than they have been in the last five years. (The last time being OU-Neb in 2001 as BCS #’s 1 and 2.)

3. Bye. Week. Always. Hurts. Early.

4. Fuck you, Andre Jones.

by GoBigRed on Sep 13, 2006 3:25 PM EDT reply actions  

You have to remember that these rules apply to everyone not named Vince Young, therefore, Nebraska is in for a long night. There’s no way this one stays close anyway, even with the trash talking, bulletin board material. I’m laying the points and taking the Trojans.

Considering who they’ve played, there isn’t any evidence that Nebraska is much better than last year.

by drew on Sep 13, 2006 4:27 PM EDT reply actions  

DC Trojan, in the words of the great Johnny Moxson, "Ah doan’t woant…yo’ lahfe."

I’m so lame I had to google that.

Choosing the path of the great Johnny Moxson (for grad school) is what landed me in this predicament in the first place.

I did think about robbing banks instead, which is about as honest a living, but — to bring some continuity to the thread — the BOHICA risk factor associated with failure was too high.

by DC Trojan on Sep 13, 2006 4:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I’ve actually been buying canned goods, bottled water, duct tape because I’m so afffrraiiiiddd now! What are we gonna do? Will USC leave any of us alive? Nebraska’s starting CB thinks they’re gonna win the game!?! I really hope we don’t get humiliated NOW because of Andre’s comments. I hope they spare some of the women & children on the message boards, cuz those USC fans…wow they can cut you in half. All four years they’ve been willing to admit they were USC fans, it’s been rough on the rest of us.

On behalf of Husker fans everywhere, I’m so sorry. I know our team is obligated to act as if we’ll be lucky to get out of this game with their lives, let alone talking of winning. Andre’s only been with us a few months, and he just…he just must not have gotten the message. I feel terrible.

Go Big Red!! (I’m sorry that wasn’t too pro-Nebraska’s chances was it?)

PS, Screw you, Trojan fan that blows this into a big deal. Don’t be gettin’ too big for us. Next thing you know you’ll be ordering the national media not to call your school Southern Cal. That already happened? Oh… the shark has been jumped.

by Jarvis12 on Sep 13, 2006 5:08 PM EDT reply actions  

As an Iowa State fan, I cringe at these next two words coming out of my mouth: “Go Nebraska!”

by J.J. on Sep 13, 2006 5:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Just a warning, I have a suspicion that the Bill Callahan mustache is fake. Just in case, here’s Geraldo with the rescue.

by J.J. on Sep 13, 2006 5:18 PM EDT reply actions  

ND has four consensus national titles in the last 50 years. 1966, 1973, 1977, and 1988. Trojans are teh suxxorz!

by JohnWA on Sep 13, 2006 5:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Lets get serious here. USC will stomp Nebraska and I really dislike USC. You can’t put Keller down for his 5 interceptions because a few came on dropped passes. The worst Derek Hagan handing the ball to Bing on the final drive. I was at the game. It was sad.Keller is much better than Taylor and should prove to boost their offense.

by The Spirit of Heisman Pundit on Sep 13, 2006 5:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Andre Jones just guaranteed he will walk with a limp and speak falsetto for the next two weeks.

 BOHICA, indeed.

by Beergut on Sep 13, 2006 6:31 PM EDT reply actions  

JohnWA:

4 ND Champeeenships…. not bad. But, not anywhere near as good as USC.

USC has had 7 championships – 1962, 1967, 1972, 1974, 1978, 2003, 2004.

As Romy Van SCHMUCK says: SCOREBOARD!

by Stacy Keibler Loves Me on Sep 13, 2006 6:56 PM EDT reply actions  

“ND has four consensus national titles in the last 50 years. 1966, 1973, 1977, and 1988. Trojans are teh suxxorz! "

1966- they really deserved that one, playing for a tie with the NC on the line- WEAK.

by MiseanAUFan on Sep 13, 2006 7:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Jarvis 12 in #37,

We’re not blowing it into a big deal, we’re just having fun, like our team will this Saturday.

I lived in the Bay Area when Callahack coached the Raiders. The day he was fired, Tim Brown went on the radio for a half hour detailing how Callahack tore apart the team. Billy’s a hard worker and he’ll probably have some success, but he will eventually bring your program down. He’s already taken your identity away.

by SeaTrojan on Sep 13, 2006 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Good God, someone actually used the word “verbiage” correctly – and here I thought all hope was permanently lost after Monday night’s mangling of the English language. Verbiiiiiiiiiiiiage, not verbage. Say it, Theisman, SAY IT!!!!!

by Wiscy Dick on Sep 13, 2006 10:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Next thing you know you’ll be ordering the national media not to call your school Southern Cal. That already happened? Oh… the shark has been jumped.

The media affairs people have been trying that for approximately forever, Jarvis12. Certainly since before I started there as an undergrad in ’88, or more than four years ago.

BTW, why would anyone pick a fight with Nebraska fans? I hear they’re lovely people, for the most part, provided that you aren’t unnerved by a mobile human monolith dressed in red. With good barbeque.

Mmmm… barbeque.

by DC Trojan on Sep 14, 2006 12:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Pete Carroll does not run up the scores. He consistantly pulls his starters plenty early in games. The “problem” is that due to his recruiting the Trojans have had tons of depth and Carroll runs a system where competition permiates and the depth chart is fluid. So those 2nd and 3rd string guys come in fired up. Putting in the subs is enough, those guys deserve a shot to play for real and shouldn’t be told to run the ball out of bounds because the other team is just too pathetic.

I’m sure the quotes didn’t help Nebraska’s cause any, but I doubt they hurt it much either. There is no way the Trojans were going to be looking past Nebraska. They know that if Nebraska beats SC and then goes on to win the Big XII they will be in MNC contention. The SC fans I’ve talked to lately are taking this game very seriously. Plus Callahan has his back to the wall, the Husker nation is not going to wait for his rebuilding project much longer.
I think this is more likely to be a tight game than a blowout.

If USC wins big though, look out, because the soft part of the schedule is next and they shouldn’t be challenged much before the final 4 game stretch (except maybe by Arizona State).

by oc phil on Sep 14, 2006 2:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Wasn’t this a USC v NEB thread?? Leave it to SKLM to bring up the Irish. You should change your screen name too. I think Emmitt Smith Loves Me has a nice ring to it.

by tc on Sep 14, 2006 8:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Greatest football TEAM of last 50 years: implies that the current 2006 USC squad would whoop any other team over that timeframe, and while the season is only two weeks old, we all know that isn’t the case. Greatest PROGRAM would have been a much better word choice there, though of course the merits of that claim would still be up for debate.

As for my 2 cents in that debate, SKLM must be too young (or too bandwagon) to remember the lean years of the Trojan program during the 80s and 90s, which included streaks of 11 straight losses to ND and 8 straight to UCLA. While the peaks of the USC program have indeed been high, they have been way too inconsistent to be considered the top football program of the last 50 years. Dominance in the 60s and 70s, followed by two decades of mediocrity prior to returning to prominence, does not equate to “the best” program in my book.

by Wiscy Dick on Sep 14, 2006 10:07 AM EDT reply actions  

I think the arbitrary 50 year cut-off is pointless. I’d tend to either view a program’s entire history or current status as being more meaningful.

While USC certainly wasn’t near top of the CFB world, there were some good teams in the 80’s and 90’s as well. One of those losses to ND was a #1 vs #2 game at the end of the season for example.

I’m curious Wiscy, what program would you rate higher ? Is there a teamt hasn’t gone through periods of mediocrity? I can’t think of a top program that has not had some lean times.

by oc phil on Sep 14, 2006 11:47 AM EDT reply actions  

I didn’t propound the 50 year period, SKLM did above. I agree it may be somewhat arbitrary, and that all programs go through some lulls. Personally, I believe Nebraska to be the most consistent juggernaut program over the “modern” timeframe, and the stats indeed bear this out (hopefully this table format remains intact):

I-A Winning Percentage 1955-2005

Rank Team name Win-Pct Won Lost Tied Games
-- -—————————— -—— -- -- -- -
  1 Nebraska 0.75707 452 143 6 601
  2 Ohio State 0.75264 421 134 13 568
  3 Oklahoma 0.73980 430 148 10 588
  4 Penn State 0.73716 428 151 5 584
  5 Michigan 0.72822 412 150 12 574
  6 Texas 0.71684 417 162 9 588
  7 Alabama 0.70854 417 168 12 597
  8 Tennessee 0.69712 403 170 18 591
  9 Southern Cal 0.69643 401 170 17 588
 10 Auburn 0.68718 391 175 11 577
 11 Florida State 0.68143 392 179 16 587
 12 Notre Dame 0.67888 385 180 8 573
 13 Florida 0.66980 385 186 15 586
 14 Arizona State 0.66784 377 186 6 569
 15 Miami-Florida 0.66638 380 189 5 574
 16 Georgia 0.66267 379 189 16 584
 17 Arkansas 0.65146 373 197 11 581
 18 Louisiana State 0.64261 366 200 16 582
 19 Miami-Ohio 0.64234 344 188 16 548
 20 UCLA 0.62347 347 206 18 571

by Noke Hoke on Sep 14, 2006 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Oops, work computer was logged in with my “other” screen name, ha ha. (grad of both VT & UW engineering schools)

by Noke Hoke on Sep 14, 2006 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Who would you put as the best team in the past 50? I’d have to say the Nebraska team led by Tommy Frasier was mighty good and nearly unstoppable.

by The Spirit of Heisman Pundit on Sep 14, 2006 2:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Seconded, from painful experience.

by Orson Swindle on Sep 14, 2006 2:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice arguments all around about the best team in college football during the last 50 years.

Taken as a whole, the best team during that span would have to be judged on number of championships won, and that would be USC.

(Of course there are plenty of teams during the past 50 years that are better than the current 2006 USC team.)

Winning a bunch a games against a bunch of patsies (Nebraska’s conference) and calling that the best team does not make much sense.

Regarding smacking ND in a USC-Nebraska thread, well, I could not help myself. But, at least I did go a few days without bringing HER NAME up, and I should at least get some credit for that, no?

by Stacy Keibler Loves Me on Sep 14, 2006 3:01 PM EDT reply actions  

tc: Emmitt Smith? Nah!!!

Unlike you, tc, I will stick with the ladies, like Ms. Keibler.

Although, I liked her dancing show, I will really miss Ms. Kiebler entering the squared circle in her unique manner, straddling the top rope. Ms. Keibler, who is 5’11" has legs that are 42 inches from hip to ankle, also has a face that is as cute as the day is long.

I cannot believe she quit professional wrassslin’ to concentrate on her Hollywood career. Hope she goes back.

by Stacy Keibler Loves Me on Sep 14, 2006 3:09 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m a diehard Trojan fan, and even I would have to say that the Frazier Nebraska teams would probably give the current USC team a good thrashing.

However, lucky for us, we’re not playing the Osbourne coached Nebraska teams, but a Comrade Callahan coached team, so I give us a pretty good chance to put away Nebraska at home.

by Jeff on Sep 14, 2006 3:40 PM EDT reply actions  

SeaTrojan (at #45)
While I don’t follow the Raiders, another theory in regard to Callahan’s last season there is that a bunch of over-the-hill prima donnas did their fair share in tearing that team apart…One that the Tim Brown, day-of, on-air tirade that you mentioned, goes a long way in justifying.

Besides, when I lived in Connecticut in 1999, about every Pat fan I knew was ready to string Pete Carroll up from a tree…so what does that prove?

by DT on Sep 14, 2006 3:56 PM EDT reply actions  

SKLM:
When USC beats kstate, I’ll give a little more attention to your talk of the “patsies” in the big 12.

by DT on Sep 14, 2006 4:10 PM EDT reply actions  

And miracuously, Andre Jones’s mere words suddenly caused every one of the the USC players to jump higher, shave a full second off their 40, and grow one foot taller.

by Austin_Husker on Sep 14, 2006 7:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Nebraska and Miami have had some particularly awesome teams win it all. As good as the Trojans have been the past few years I still think the most impressive teams were 78 & 79 when they won one MNC (which they split with Alabama in spite of beating the tide that year) and went undefeated the next year and beat a #1 ranked tOSU team in the Rose Bowl (but finished #2, Damn that John Elway, Damn him to hell).

Why are the Pats fans so down on Pete Carroll? He actually has the second best winning percentage of all the Patriot’s coaches and he took them to the playoffs 2 out of 3 years and never had a losing record. Hardly the total falure some paint him as.

by oc phil on Sep 14, 2006 9:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Callahan went old school… an interview of him was played during the halftime break on tonight’s massacre of MD, and the tone of his obviously well-prepared banter was this:

“We’re going up against a tough opponent, and we don’t know if we’re going to win or not, but we’re going to do our best.”

Is he channeling Tom Osborne or what?

by Rob on Sep 15, 2006 12:59 AM EDT reply actions  

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