FELDMAN: GROH GARNERS GROANS AND GRUMBLES
Despite the fact that we’ve been paying for it for years now, we still don’t feel quite like an Insider, dammit. Reading Bruce Feldman’s blog is nice compensation, though; it’s one of two reasons the whole painless addition to the credit card debt each month is worth it, along with the podcasts Ivan Maisel and others have been doing lately.
Feldman wrote yesterday about the grumbles Al Groh keeps earning with his handling of players, scholarships, and inability to communicate much besides grr…err…need grey sweatshirt worked for Bill Parcells…. And in response, Groh can cite the following:
–Has beat in-state rival Virginia Tech once in his six years at UVA, and lost last year’s game 52-14.
–Watched staff flee in numbers over the past two years.
–Has the charisma and pr skills of that sketchy ATM machine in the back of the 7-11. Unlike Groh, the ATM wishes you a good day.

Have a nice day, my ass.
–Mr. NFL did have seven players drafted in 2005, though the highest draftee went in the fourth round (Alvin Pearman, Jacksonville,) with the others coming in second day action in late rounds. (HEY! Don’t forget D’Brickashaw at #4 in ‘06, one of five drafted, though the remainder all came in the fifth and sixth round!–ed. courtesy of readers.) He can advertise with some verisimilitude that his recruits stand a decent chance of getting drafted. On the second day. Maybe. Unless they’re a total freak with a epochal name like D’Brickashaw. ***Or Heath Miller. Any other UVA first-rounders lurking out there?
–A declining return on his recruiting skills, with his top class of 2002 standing in dramatic relief against the following years, including this year’s disappointing class and “alarm” at top recruits leaving the state–for example, UF’s own Percy Harvin, poached from under Groh’s nose by loving text-messaging from Urban Meyer. (Apparently, Harvin enjoys being stalked.) Groh, tone-deaf to PR as always, had this response:
“Sometimes it’s a little challenging to understand what was on the minds of some of the players,” Groh said.
The headline on the article trumps the quote: “STATE RECRUITING PERPLEXES GROH.” Reading this you imagine Groh stuck like a Sim trapped in a corner of his house, waving frantically at the camera as he pees the floor, waves the flies gathering around him away from his house, and implores you to move the couch blocking his way before he dies of starvation.

Someone please move that couch before it kills him.
–Groh has also embraced the kind of nepotism reserved for coaches who’ve won national championships. His replacement for departing offensive coordinator Ron Prince: come on down, son! In all fairness, Groh was the quarterbacks coach when Matt Schaub completed passes at a Steve Youngish rate back in ‘02, and did a nice job developing Marques Hagans. Still, as a coach already struggling to keep recruits in state, beat your rival, and not suffer the periodic losses to supposed gimmes on the schedule, bringing your son on to commandeer an offense that mysteriously disappears on occasion (as in losing to UNC 7-5 last year)…it could just give a disenchanted fanbase another way to justify your professional obituary at UVA.
(Note: EDSBS hero/icon/worship object/angry vengeful God Steve Spurrier had his son on staff; so does Joe Paterno, and most rancorously, so does Bobby Bowden. See how well that’s going? )
Speaking of UVA, please read Ian’s latest piece on…something or other. As in life, reading Sexy Results is more about the process and less about the results, as sexy as they might be. Somewhere just down the page Ian wrote one of the best sentences we’ve ever read; the last bit refers to Jenn Sterger, FSU’s idea of a pinup girl.
On the other hand, I’m thinking that Myron Rolle’s decision to choose FSU prompted the most hilarious letter of intent signing since Stephon Marbury committed to “Georgia Tech University,” the greatest player in Seminole hoops history might be Bobby Sura and they continually get overrated in terms of student body attractiveness on the account of someone who looks like what would happen if Wilson’s Leather Store starting making floatation devices.
Below this is this picture:

You are a very dumb wasp. Here’s your target orchid.
Jenn Sterger and women like her are nothing new in terms of evolutionary biology: Chiloglottis trapeziformis, a type of orchid, produces a pheromone that fools male wasps into mating with it, thus pollinating the flower and leaving the wasp satisfied, dumb, smoking a cigarette underneath an eave somewhere thinking it’s just knocked up a hot young waspette and thus spread its genetic legacy successfully. Which it hasn’t. Which is exactly how a guy who just crawled off that sun-destroyed, silicone-wracked bag of mascara-covered leather must feel after pumping valuble cash and genetic material into an evening with her. Fraud comes in a thousand forms, and you’re looking at three of them right there.









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Miami Bass War says:
Am I missing something re: Groh’s draft-day picks, Orson? Fourth round best? That’s a link to coverage of the 2005 draft. Didn’t D’Brickashaw go #4 overall in 2006?
June 20th, 2006 at 9:25 am
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sean says:
Isn’t Ferguson an Al Groh player?
June 20th, 2006 at 9:25 am
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now_a_hoo says:
Yeah, the draft article is from last year. After Brick there was a big drop-off this year, but he did go #4.
June 20th, 2006 at 9:32 am
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Doug says:
Generally it’s a bad sign whenever your coach pops up in a headline as the object of a sentence in which the verb is a form of “to perplex.” I’ve already shared with Ian my theory that Groh — who came in with massive expectations, shot up to near-greatness in two seasons only to decline steadily from there, sends truckloads of players to the NFL while not managing to do much with them at the college level, and manages to piss off/alienate everyone within earshot — might be the ACC-optimized Jim Donnan v2.0, and he seemed inclined to agree.
Where we part company, though, is on the Cowgirls. To paraphrase Ron Mexico, I’d still hit it.
June 20th, 2006 at 9:37 am
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Orson Swindle says:
Yes, correction due and forthcoming.
June 20th, 2006 at 9:46 am
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brain says:
What did that chic do to you Orson? Conscience has got to be asking if she turned you down after a Gator-Nole game in the 90’s. I’ve looked at this chic at least 3 times on this site in the last year. Shoot, I’d rather see the K-state Purple bra chics or the Oklahoma chics much more than this FSU handbag. That being said, Al Groh suck ass. He has always sucked ass. I have never understood why he was so hyped. If you are a have assed coach on one level, you will be one on another. You can get away with recruiting to outrun your ineptness. I think it finally caught up with ol’ Al.
June 20th, 2006 at 9:50 am
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Orson Swindle says:
She’s fake as fake tits, Brain, that’s what she is.[/Jimmy Stewart]
June 20th, 2006 at 10:12 am
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Nile Kinnick says:
Even though the Orchid got what it was looking for, I would still rather be the wasp.
June 20th, 2006 at 10:20 am
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Kanu says:
Brain,
You back off talking about “The Shovel.”
Actually, I don’t give a shit what you do, because Groh does suck balls. I just love calling him ‘THE SHOVEL” because when he was the Patriots DC that was his motivational schtick – he would walk out with a shovel and dramatically plant it into the turf a la FSU’s Chief Oscieola with the spear.
Maybe that’s what he needs to be doing in Charlottesville.
Oh, and there is only one dude who can wear a sweatshiet and not look like a doofus, and his name id Bill Bellichek. If you can’t go shirt & tie or sweatervest, at least roll over to the bookstore and pick up a golf shirt man.
June 20th, 2006 at 10:20 am
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Johnny says:
After going over to Dodgy at Best, one thing is for sure. I may never truely enjoy Proper Football, but I’d go to the game just for the chic’s! They’ve got it all over Leather Tuscadero(pictured above)!
June 20th, 2006 at 10:52 am
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White people, the sun is not your friend says:
It will be interesting to see what Jenn looks like in ten years, but I have already seen that with the females that mostly occupied space during high school and undergrad. They gain quite a bit of weight since they do not take care themselves and their skin looks and feels like the sandpaper used on the New Yankee Workshop beacuase they are Caucasion and the sun comes out the winner in time. When I moved to Texas a tanning place ad stated that, “Tan fat is better than white fat.”
And unlike Doug, I would not hit that since I would either have to talk to it before or after and somehow I get the feeling that the sex with her would be really boring since she seems that she is just a tease.
Al Groh. What can be said about him that has not already been stated.
June 20th, 2006 at 11:03 am
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Nupe in Va says:
UVA just gave Groh a 5 year contract worth 1.7 million per. I’m thinking dude must have some naked pictures of someone.
June 20th, 2006 at 11:05 am
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now_a_hoo says:
Orson-
Thanks for the edit. It’s also worth noting that Alvin wasn’t the highest player taken last year either. Super Bowl Champion (and former Mackey winner) Heath Miller went in the first round. Sorry for piling on. 15 yards against me.
June 20th, 2006 at 11:06 am
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Orson Swindle says:
That’s not piling on–it’s correction. And proof that despite a muddling kind of style, Groh still gets people in the draft. Much thanks.
June 20th, 2006 at 11:19 am
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ohiodawg says:
Isn’t Groh was the guy who, more than any other, was going to bring the NFL style of play to college football? Let’s hope he continues to go downhill.
UVa – the Cal of the East. Always hyped, rarely pays off.
June 20th, 2006 at 11:21 am
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Burkie says:
He’ll make a great DC for Charlie Weis though.
June 20th, 2006 at 12:03 pm
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alanon says:
are you all really saying you’d pass on jenn? or jenn in 5+ years??? that’s very important information
June 20th, 2006 at 12:11 pm
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ness says:
Orson, I agree that Sterger is the one of the most overhyped women on the planet in terms of her looks. She ranks up there with Kate Moss(Heroin chic is so 90’s), Cameron Diaz(quirky only works if you’re talented) and Drew Barrymore(fat and ugly and drugged out).
Given the choice, albeit with gun to head, I would choose Laura Quinn because I could pretend to be thundering down the back stretch at Churchill Downs using her locks as reigns or a drunk Auburn University student and take her behind the barn because she is a hot piece of equine ass(a good substitute for bovine tail which we love in ALabama!)
June 20th, 2006 at 12:17 pm
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Orson Swindle says:
Ness, it’s responses like that that make us love our readers.
June 20th, 2006 at 12:19 pm
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GamecockTony says:
“Thundering down the back stretch at Churchill Downs?”
High humor, Ness.
If that’s his type of gal, I suggest we all chip in and purchase Ness season tix to the closest WNBA team.
“The WNBA, it’s FANNNNTASS… well OK, it sucks. Please just don’t call us ALL dykes.”
June 20th, 2006 at 12:30 pm
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GamecockTony says:
Oh, I’d still tap Sterger.
June 20th, 2006 at 12:31 pm
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ness says:
Orson
Laura Quinn is as one reader put it “Yankee Cute”
June 20th, 2006 at 12:32 pm
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Ian says:
Sigh…okay, here it goes.
First off, thanks for the link. I guess? Anywho, let me just say that ANYONE other than Ron Prince is a better choice for O.C. And to be fair, Mike Groh did a great job at the bowl game when he had to step up. Really, it was the first time in ages that I saw the UVA take advantage of a clear weakness (TE pass over the middle, repeatedly, for 20+ yards).
I have a weird sort of cognitive dissonance right now. After all, nearly everything I felt that needed to get done this offseason has; get rid of Prince, get rid of the thug/lazy presence on the team, start Snelling at TB, etc. And more importantly, get VA people on the staff. With Mike London and Anthony Poindexter, UVA’s doing very well right now with its recruiting, getting Lalich and J’Courtney Williams from NoVA. I don’t see things bottoming out just yet because they’re going to dangerous in 2007.
But yeah, Cal sounds about right on all fronts, and that’s fine.
June 20th, 2006 at 1:24 pm
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Joe says:
Heath Miller was taken in the first round of that draft, FYI
June 20th, 2006 at 1:38 pm
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Jonathan says:
Must be a GA thing, but I’m with Doug on this
June 20th, 2006 at 2:02 pm
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Brian says:
Maybe we should all get to know her before we slaughter her for some new boots.
June 20th, 2006 at 3:24 pm
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Brian says:
Sorry, not sure I linked correctly…
June 20th, 2006 at 3:24 pm
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LeatherfaceSterger says:
There are many more females that are not, in my opinion, such a media whore as Sterger who would be much better girlfriends and do not have the look or feel, an probably the smell, of a leather jacket. There is something to be said about Laura Quinn though, she is rolling in money and will be pumping out scray linebackers in the future. And God only knows what the male offspring will be. I am scared.
June 20th, 2006 at 3:26 pm
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Wooderson says:
Orson,
Is your repeated “post picture of Jenn Sterger then trash her” just your subtle way of looking at a really hot chick without having your wife get onto you about it? You know, sort of like a “hiding in plain sight” sort of strategy? Because I know I’d definitely be doing something that devious if I had a wife.
June 20th, 2006 at 3:29 pm
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Brian says:
Try this…
http://www.collegehumor.com/movies/1694073/
June 20th, 2006 at 3:31 pm
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Brian says:
Watch that enough and you might get your IQ down far enough to be on the level with Georgia fans.
June 20th, 2006 at 3:33 pm
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Todd says:
what’s the deal with how Jenn Sterger is going to look in ten years? Is anyone really making long term plans in regards to taking her to bed, as if this decade is just too hectic so maybe we’ll get some drinks and then go to my place to “watch a movie” around 2017?
June 20th, 2006 at 4:01 pm
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Dawg 05 says:
I’m not taking Jenn home to mom, nor am I interested in a long term relationship, so why not hit it.
June 20th, 2006 at 4:25 pm
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Wooderson says:
I’d take Jenn home to mom. Make my mom happy to know she’d be getting alot of grandkids out of that baby-making machine.
June 20th, 2006 at 4:54 pm
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Orson Swindle says:
Wooderson–
The COAN has no problem with us looking at cheesecake. The “hot” picture has no appeal to us, since
1. She’s wearing garnet and gold
2. She’s obviously got some purchased ta-tas.
There’s something disingenous about fake boobs that makes her worse than your average scantily clad, sun-damaged FSU fan.
June 20th, 2006 at 5:03 pm
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Ian says:
Yeah, it’s probably best you didn’t post on why I explain the problem with fake boobs. Probably workin’ a little too blue.
June 20th, 2006 at 5:56 pm
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Orson Swindle says:
Not really. It’s about getting the echt and not the ersatz in all things, Ian.
June 20th, 2006 at 5:57 pm
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LeatherfaceSterger says:
Jenn Sterger’s idea of a longterm relationship is a man that will spend the night. But like all one night stands you leave with the number of the free clinic and “friends” you might carry for life. At least one can eat real cheescake and run the weight off.
June 20th, 2006 at 6:01 pm
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PJ says:
Sterger isn’t close to the hottest chick in Tallahassee. No shot. The natural hotties outnumber the fake tans and fake hooters. I don’t give a shit if you rip her, just don’t say she’s the hottest girl on campus. Yes, I would still give her a throw.
I guess the UVA dudes striped tie and blazer didn’t go over to well with the chicks down here during the 2004 36-3 smackdown (Lead by God himself). If you remember UVA came in undefeated lead by the great Al Groh and were poised for a “statement game.”
Bob Sura isn’t the greatest basketball player in FSU history either. He wasn’t even the second best player on a couple of teams in the Kennedy era.
June 20th, 2006 at 6:18 pm
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Ian says:
I’m not saying that she’s the hottest girl on campus, but that’s generally who people think about when they consider the typical FSU girl. It’s not your fault.
And I can only guess the spiked hair and pooka shell necklaces didn’t go over so well in Charlottesville last year. I know it only happens once a decade, but just tell Weatherford he might want to throw it to the dudes in garnet and gold this time.
June 20th, 2006 at 8:37 pm
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wooderson says:
Orson, where does one find a wife that lets you enjoy the cheescake?
and for the record, Garnet and gold is the color of that semi-catholic school in chestnut hill, and yet I can still stomach the sight of their XX’s. although they have no augmentation (and could use some)
crap, yellow and gold is the color of that knock-off school in South Central too. is it any wonder that the best teams in the land all have blue in their color scheme?
June 20th, 2006 at 9:06 pm
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Merton Hanks says:
Hell, I’d hit it for sure. Then again, I’d probably tag Bea Arthur if she got a tit job, as big breasts are my own personal kryptonite. But let’s have some perspective here, people: take out the saline wonder-baggies and Sterger is very mediocre, at best, on the FSU campus.
On a more footbaw-related note, this Al Groh hate fest has reminded me of how utterly incomprehensible it is that Pete Carroll has become regarded as (virtually) the gold standard for college coaches, somehow avoiding the fate of his “washed-up shitty NFL coach” brethren, such as Groh, Gailey, Callahan, Wannstache, et al. Pardon me while I go break something…
June 20th, 2006 at 9:09 pm
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Hokie Andrew says:
As a Virginia Tech alum and Hokie football fan I fully endorse AlGroh’s (one word, say it real fast) continued employment. In fact I regularly make donations to his salary fund.
Vive Le France!
June 21st, 2006 at 9:13 am
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now_a_hoo says:
As a lifelong Virginian, and current Hoo, I can’t say I endorse the continued employment of Frank Beamer. This has nothing to do with the fact that Ron Mexico Community College and State Penal Farm pantsed UVa last year, and lots to do with the safety of the Commonwealth. This year’s disappointing Fulmer Cup erformance by the Hokies notwithstanding, we’re safer with anyone else as football coach. Maybe even Dennis Erickson.
Druckenmiller, Tony Morrison, los hermanos Mexico, &c.
June 21st, 2006 at 11:09 am
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Rainmaker says:
Ian,
Mike Groh was not calling the plays during last year’s Music City Bowl, despite a common belief to the contrary (most likely because the announcers repeatedly stated such)–Al was.
As for the Groh-bashing by others, the question I have is what do you people truly expect from UVA football? While the last couple of seasons have been relatively disappointing, does anyone honestly expect UVA to become a perennial powerhouse? Heightened admissions standards and a general emphasis on academics before sports make it very difficult for UVA to establish itself as a dominant program, particularly now that the ACC is loaded with strong programs (many of which are UVA’s antitheses as academic institutions; e.g., VT, FSU). Say what you will about him, but Al Groh: 1) has brought in a respectable level of talent and has, year in year out, fielded solid teams, 2) makes his players go to class and EARN their right to be a student-athlete, 3) refuses to tolerate negative off-the-field behavior, and 4) carries himself with class. As such, he seems like a great fit for a school like UVA.
June 21st, 2006 at 1:45 pm
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Hokie Andrew says:
Rainmaker,
I agree with most of your points there save for one – FSU and Miami might be the antithesis of UVA vis-a-vis academics but lumping VT in with FSU crosses the line into fightin’ words and is patently unfair and demonstrably false. First, one can consult any number of published university rankings and find that both VT and UVA are well regarded universities. True, UVA has the edge in subjects related to French culture such as brie consumption and the execution of hasty retreats upon fields of contest however I’ll gladly put a VT engineering grad up to the Pepsi challenge against a Hoo any day. Second, Virginia Tech actually grants degrees – I have seen no evidence suggesting that FSU does so, having never come across a Florida State graduate. And thirdly, I just used “demonstrably” correctly in a sentence. Let’s see an FSU fan do that!
June 21st, 2006 at 3:30 pm
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Orson Swindle says:
Burt Reynolds could do it. On the moon. While beating you senseless with a discarded moon rover.
June 21st, 2006 at 3:31 pm
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Rainmaker says:
Hokie,
I should’ve been more precise.
I intended to offer FSU and VT as examples of UVA’s antitheses with regard to the academic rigors of “student-athletes.” I realize VT has a very strong engineering program, but don’t tell me either of the Mexicos (or Deangelo Hall, Jimmy Williams, etc.) took legitimate classes which they attended and in which they completed the assigned work.
June 21st, 2006 at 3:59 pm
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Merton Hanks says:
UVA fans refer to their admissions standards as an excuse for mediocrity more than any other fanbase this side of Notre Dame, pre-Weis-boner era. Let’s do a little comparison of average SAT/ACT scores of similar institutions, with numbers courtesy of Princeton Review:
Virginia: 1319/28
Georgia: 1240/27
Georgia Tech: 1328/28
Clemson: 1225/27
Wisconsin: 1260/28
Cal: 1324/NR
UCLA: 1284/27
Michigan: 1320/28 (est.)
Oh, and good old “Suntan U” Miami, which we all like to make fun of:
SAT – Verbal Range (25-75%): 570-670
SAT – Math Range (25-75%): 590-680
TPR Projected Range SAT Writing: 610-680
ACT Composite Range (25-75%): 25-30
Just some food for thought next time someone from C-ville tries to pull the “holier than thou” attitude re: academic superiority, whilst slugging crappy bourbon and sporting flip flops.
June 21st, 2006 at 4:15 pm
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Rainmaker says:
First of all, Merton, I’m no UVA fan.
Secondly, those numbers are altogether irrelevant–the relevant inquiry is to what extent a given school sacrifices its standards in admitting scholarshipped athletes. Or, put more simply (for your sake), what are the school’s admissions standards as applied to scholarshipped athletes. I can assure that UVA’s are significantly higher than those of many of the schools you cited.
For instance, citing the numbers for UGA or Miami is completely pointless, as those schools simply require that athletes meet the NCAA (and SEC/ACC) minimum requirements. Wait…what am I talking about–Quincy Carter and Sean Taylor were National Merit Scholars, no?
June 21st, 2006 at 4:37 pm