NOTRE DAME TACTICS TAKE ON A SUPERNATURAL EDGE

I love that video.

It turns out that the whole thing was a hoax – kind of like Mike Price’s Alabama coaching career – and the goal was to get people in the neighborhood so they could charge for parking.

I love the guy in the camo BDU’s yelling to the car “Do not be afraid.” For a second their I thought I was wathcing footage from a civil war in Liberia, not some wild goose chase in the ghetto.

I know I’m going to regret pointing this out, but Dothan is, like, 200 miles from Mobile. That’s like saying “The Tallahassee/Ocala area.”

The Creighton Leprechaun was huge around here(Mobile) after St. Paddy’s Day. You ought to see the t-shirts that were made because of it. The sketch sold on EBay for $1100 bucks back in April. That video still cracks me up, though. Have you seen the rap song made from the clip?
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/audio/leprechaun-rap-song.html

Jesus, where do you guys find shit like this? tying ND Football to the Projects of Mobile Al. is priceless!!

I like how the camo dude says that the thing in his hand is a flute for calling leprechaauns handed down over “thousands of years” from his Irish great grandfather. I guess he’s black Irish. Not to mention that his “flute” is basically a junction pipe with some holes drilled into it.

The choicest part is the scaffolding joint – aka irish flute.

First, it was images of Jesus appearing on a grilled cheese sandwich in Florida, now it’s leprechauns. We are very near the end of civilization.

Where can I get a “leprechaun flute?”

Everytime I see this it makes me SO proud to be from LA(lower Alabama). And we wonder why people think the residents of the deep south are so ass backwards. Just for the record Orson you have it as the Mobile/Dothan area and these areas are on opposite sides of the state.

Is that Edgerrin James holding the video camera?

And the camo guy should know better. You can’t play a scaffold pin like a flute. You’ll get rust all over your lips.

In the end, it might have just been a crackhead who got hold of some bad stuff and crawled up in a tree.

Wow, I can’t believe that’s the first time i’ve seen that, and I live in Alabama. Lucky for me, I’ve heard the rap before and it’s quite brilliant. Makes you wonder why Three Six won an Oscar and not these fools.

I’ve seen that video about 500 times and I laugh my ass off every time I see it. I love the South.

There is just no way that Charlie Weis was masquerading as a lepherchaun in Mobile, Alabama, looking for talent, unless there was a really good donut or fudge store.

Actually, I think Weis and Notre Dame in general are not all that excited about African Americans. Just look at their student body and team.

Just for kicks, someone ought to compare the number of blacks on the football team with other major programs, and do the same thing with the student body. I am guessing the numbers would be significantly different.

(Memo to Blue Gray Sky Nerdlingers: Ask one of your lackeys complete this simple research, and then have the guts to post it, and not be COWARDS.)

It still cracks me up how venemous ND Domers turned on African American, Ty “back nine” Willingham after starting out similarly like their current fat boy love child. Even though, Ty did bring a bit of class to their program at a time when ND was going through a scandal with their very own George O’Leary-Cheety McSweatervest-Without-the-Sweatervest.

Just for kicks, someone ought to compare the number of blacks on the football team with other major programs, and do the same thing with the student body. I am guessing the numbers would be significantly different.

Maybe they should compare acedemic merit of their African American players instead. After all, I’m sure people like Victor Abiamiri and Co. only want to perpetuate a sterotype and just blow off their education. Far be it for them to strive for something more then society would give them credit for.

Some of the people, all of the time. PT was right.

As for you harvey, the O’Leary thing wasn’t really a scandal. ND found out, and he was fired. Simple as that. It’s not like ND tried to cover anything up. And we still have 10x the integrity of the Escalade-loving schools out there. Of which tOSU is not the only one.

As for Ty and class, it would have been classy if he hadn’t hung out in the locker room taking a dump at halftime while the rest of the team came out, lined up for the kickoff, at had one run back on them before he got to the field. Ty can rot in the Pac NW.

Wow, Harvey…pulling out the racism card on Notre Dame. Those are some pretty heavy words. Instead of charging ND fans with proving their innocence, why not put the data together yourself? The demographics of ND’s incoming students are at https://admissions.nd.edu/firstyear/statistics.cfm. Getting the demographics of the football team would be a bit more difficult…not sure if there is an easy table out there because, frankly, most ND fans don’t care if the players are black, white, pink, purple, whatever. Seems like you’re the only one that is real concerned about it.

Feel free to compare what you find with other programs and let us know what you find out. Also, be sure to not just compare ND to the major football powers, but also the programs that are our peers in graduating players and academics. I’m sure the NCAA web site has that data for you.

ND’s an incredibly racist institution. Unlike every other D-1 school, their historic refusal to recruit and start black quarterbacks exemplifies their racist history.

Their long-time tolerance of the presence of the KKK in Indiana exposes that inherent racism as well.

Let’s be real about this. ND’s never had a black Heisman winner for a reason!

Orson,

Could you have a little compitence test required before idiots post on your board? Anyway, congrats to Bill for being the biggest dumbass in the world. (Bill could not collect his award today, because he is off speaking at the UN about the world being flat and the Earth being the center of the universe)

Here we go Bill:
Heisman winner – Tim Brown – He is black
Black Quarterbacks – Tony Rice, Kevin McDougle, Jarious Jackson, Carlyle Holiday, and new to the 2006 Class – Demitrius Jones.

Go eat more paint and dirt, Bill.

“ND’s never had a black Heisman winner for a reason!”

That reason is because Heisman voters were more impressed with Ty Detmer’s numbers against WAC teams than Rocket Ismail’s kickoff returns against Michigan and other top teams.

We’ll get to that research Harvey as soon as we finish working on this bra bomb.

Matt: swing and a miss. I wasn’t even trying to be subtle, dude.

Harvey Wireman, I am impressed that you could pack so many idiotic statements into a few short paragraphs.

First of all: Blacks in the ND student body. It is true that Notre Dame’s student body has a lower percentage of African Americans than, say, Florida or USC. To accuse the school of racism, however, is a rather reckless assertion. A more accurate assessment is that the school practically seeps Catholicism, and as such, Notre Dame’s student body is about 90% Catholic. Religious African Americans are predominantly Baptist, Methodist, AME, some other Protestant denomination, or Muslim. Also, ND has a rather hefty price tag, and its students are predominantly from either a) the upper or upper-middle class or b) dirt poor (thus able to get more grants and loans; I went this route). So if you’re an African American, why go to ND and pay a ton or money or go into massive debt when you could go to an secular (Ivy or some such) or Protestant-based school and not feel like the (Catholic culture-wise) odd-man-out?

As to the percentage of African American football players:
Demographically, there is a slightly higher percentage of AA athletes that are a) from the south and/or b) in inner city schools where getting a quality education is tougher than at, say, a private high school (which are generally predominantly white…are they racist too?) With ND having a) bitterly cold winter months and b) academic standards that are slightly higher than most D1 schools (though not as high as Stanford or Duke, which also have a lower percentage of black football players and student body than Florida or USC…are they racist, too?), there is a percentage of AA athletes that either cannot qualify academically (that a large percentage of athletes that do not qualify for either the NCAA minimum standards or ND’s slightly higher standards are African American is a fairly well established fact) or, if they are from the south, want nothing to do with January in South Bend. That being said, the football team’s % of African American athletes at least been 40-60% in the last, oh, 30 years or so and was integrated as early as the early 1950’s (much sooner than, oh, Florida, Texas, Alabama, etc.).

Refuting the charge of racism for the ousting of Ty Willingham has been completely and effectively done many times on many sites, so I won’t bother here. Anyone who watched Ty’s 2002 “turnaround” year knew ND was winning with smoke and mirrors (the statistics from 2001 to 2002 were virtually identical), and USC and NC State completely undressed ND to close out the season. The 2005 ND team lost two extremely close regular season games, played the 2-time defending champs down to the wire, and though they gave up a ton of yards in the Fiesta Bowl, were still only down 7 with 2 minutes to play.

To sum up, to charge ND with racism has no basis in fact.

Bill’s being sarcastic, right?

“Unlike every other D-1 school, their historic refusal to recruit and start black quarterbacks exemplifies their racist history.”

Hmmm…the last QB of a ND national champion was Tony Rice. The last time ND really was in the hunt for for the national title (1993), the QB was Kevin McDougal, who is, despite what the name might imply, a black QB. Just in my four years there, Arnaz Battle, Jarius Jackson, and Carlyle Holliday started games at QB. Okay, so we’ve discussed that issue.

“Their long-time tolerance of the presence of the KKK in Indiana exposes that inherent racism as well.”

You’re kidding, right? In case no one truly knows their history, the KKK is/was anti-Catholic as well as anti-black because of the Irish immigrants after the Civil War. There are great stories from the early 1900’s where the South Bend police and Notre Dame priests would turn a blind eye to the groups of ND students that would skip class to meet the KKK at the train station to beat the snot out of the them and throw them back on the train. The KKK still can’t get a permit to demonstrate in South Bend because of ND.

“Let’s be real about this. ND’s never had a black Heisman winner for a reason!”

Tim Brown, 1988…the last ND player to win the Heisman.

Bill, try again.

Lighten up Pat, that youngster will make a perfect addition to my cabinet, Minister of Partying Down!"

Suggest you do you homework before stating that ND supports the Clan. Its quite the opposite. Know the history before mouthing off.

I specifically cited three things that I knew any ND fan could refute without even having to think about it, and you two STILL took it seriously.

It’s ok, though. Let’s blame it on the fact that it’s Wednesday.

I don’t know which is more hilarious…that video or this comment thread.

Somebody needs to tell Tim Brown that he’s not a negro.

And, yes, I have to admit. We Catholics have been in league with the KKK for years. Years I tell you!

Hilarious.

Bill, I suspcted you were being sarcastic, but there are a ton of people out there who wouldn’t know any better and start shouting that stuff from the top of a mountain. sarcasm in a race discussion can come across the wrong way very easily.

People, please. Bill was obviously kidding.

However, I stand by my assertion that Harvey is an idiot.

Matt I think Bill was kidding but if that was a serious post, might be the worst post ever. Harvey, WTF, “Notre Dame in general are not all that excited about African Americans.” Why would you say that?, one what basis. Just say you dont like ND and call it good.

Nothing liked failed sarcasm to turn a race discussion violent…

Mark May, is that you???

Will someone tell Harvey to get down from that tree.

The Black Athlete at Notre Dame Dept.:

There really is no room for the Black Athlete at Notre Dame.

The ND “Family” would just see them as the “help”, only there for their footballing skills, and not as academically qualified as the rest of the student body.

There are very few attractive women, white, black, brown, yellow or green at ND for the Black Athlete to enjoy. The little city, South Bend, sucks big time. Like Oakland, there is no there, there.

Other factors, such as the weather, being a thousand miles or so from a beach and others make that a sucky place to live, especially during the long winter months.

The Black Athlete, unless he is a die-hard Catholic, would be much better off in other welcoming places with better amenities than Notre Dame.

Academics? Gimme a break! ND will never reach the prestige of this country’s Ivy League universities and other top colleges. (But, they are better than tehOSU, whoopty-doo.)

Another wonderful post from our pro Notre Dame pro Catholic friend Stacy Keibler Luvs Me. Thanks for that post so well thought out and accurate.

Walkernd95:

Dude, you are welcome. I am glad someone appreciates my commentary.

Wow, they last fifteen posting’s gave me the runs. I’ve got to go to the toilet.

Not sure where to post this but um, Bruce Feldman over at Mouse: insider edition just posted his top 10 college Football stadiums, headed by Neyland. I don’t pay for crap generally so um, if anyone can access the complete list I’m sure it would be interesting.

This thread is giving me the warm fuzzies.

Thanks Jay, now I am going to have that song stuck in my head all day…

I second Socraticsilence’s request for the top 10 college football stadiums if anyone has a subscription to ESPN Insider.

Notre Dame buys the leftover blacks from the University of Alabama and ships them to play at for the Michigan Wolverines.

I think I hit the holy trifecta.

You can all thank me when EDSBS is still here next week.

Well tie me down and call me Holly Rowe. Wrong Link…

Corrected Holy Trifecta

No racial discussion is complete unless we hear from the Spirit of Truth!

http://www.collegehumor.com/movies/jesus/1685099/

\don’t follow whitey’s rule
\\sarcasm

This isn’t Fark.

For a real challenge, find a way to make the Ultimate Showdown football-related:

http://www.ultimateshowdown.org/

SKLM—the (self proclaimed) expert on the black athlete.

Better tell Tony Rice that he “isn’t part of the family”, or that “there is nothing there” for him. He graduated 16 years ago, and I’m not sure he ever left campus.

Strangebrew:

So, it was Tony Rice in that Famous ND Tailgate Party Video – the only Black guy at the “party”! Dude, thanks for sharing.

FWIW: “Harvey Wireman” is a character used by Phil Hendrie, a comedian/radio personality who baits callers into arguments. I assume that’s why Harvey (and Bill) posted this crap, and it worked.

Put SKLM in the same group as Harvey and Bill. Just curious SKLM, where did you go to school?

I love it. Every time there’s an ND-related post, it turns into a flame war involving SKLM and Harvey.

All the ND fans out there, there’s only one way to win an argument with an idiot (Stephen Colbert v. Bill O’Reilly). With all the religion classes you have to take at ND, you should be able to remember the Catch-22 from the Book of Proverbs about answering a fool according to his folly.

Walkernd95 & J.J.:

Regarding your posts, I’ll play….here are my responses:

I do not like being lumped with that fool “Harvey Wireman”. He is not funny (like I am) plus he is as old as dirt.

Dumping on ND is amusing to me, since its fans are some of the most myopic on Earth. We are in World Cup Madness time and the Domers sort of remind me of the team from England. Always, unrealistically high expectations, usually poor results, with a Striker that does the ROBOT dance. (I know, I know, they have a lot of anti-Irish history.)

I have avoided bashing ND lately, in order to not get stale and bore the readers of this blog. (I like Kinnison’s, Dice’s and Carlin’s material, but I cannot listen to their bits every day.)

But, you gotta admit… about my commentary being… at least….every once in a while, amusing…..Today’s commentary on The Black Athlete not fitting in at pasty ND- land was right on, if not amusing.

J.J. -> ..answering a fool according to his folly?…I think you just called yourself a fool!, which is probably speaking too highly of yourself.

Walker nd 95: Unlike Domers who cannot stop bragging about themselves, such as you adding the “nd 95” to your name; I will be humble and not say which universities I have degrees from because it will only get you more insanely jealous and mad.

You two better hope ND has a great year, because if not, guess who will be there with up to the minute commentary?

“He is not funny (like I am)”
“I will be humble and not say which universities I have degrees from because it will only get you more insanely jealous and mad”

yea walker, YOU need to stop bragging all the time.

Other factors, such as the weather, being a thousand miles or so from a beach and others make that a sucky place to live, especially during the long winter months.

Lord knows that the beaches of Ann Arbor, Columbus, College Station, Happy Valley, and Boulder are much more Beautiful than than Warren Dunes which is just 30 minutes from South Bend.

SKLM—
You are working against yourself here. You said ND fans are myopic, which we are clearly in many cases. With that in mind, why would we possibly be envious of the school(s) from which you have obtained degrees? Can’t you recognize that we look down from above you not only in matters of the gridiron but also academically? You may kiss my class ring now.

AllWhoYonder:

Responding to you is too easy:

A) Academics: The Ivy League does not look at ND as an academic peer. (Not even Northwestern nor the Univ. of Chicago look at ND as an academic peer.) As said earlier, so what if ND is a little better academically than tOSU.

B) Gridiron: Losing each year, for the past NCAA record setting 8 bowl games, and getting your rump handed to you by key rivals, including little brother BC, is nothing to brag about. At least beat a top 25 team first and then we can talk.

So, your ND du lac, or whatever it is, does not impress me academically nor footballically. What does impress me is the ND Tailgate Party video! Now that was gold! No one parties down like your Domies!

C) Do not ask me to kiss anything ’ol chap. That is why you have those infamous priests that will kiss your ring and who knows what else for a cheap thrill. (Apologies in advance to the devout for taking an easy cheap shot at child molester priests and those other priests that make up a large percentage of the ND faculty that do not fancy the ladies.)

P.S. I forgot to mention that I molest sheep.

Stacey,

Put your retard helmet back on and stop typing.

Speaking of fairy dust, have fun with this one:

folly. folly. sarcasm is dead.

Someone please take a dump on my chest. I love that.

P.S. I forgot to mention that I molest sheep.

Comment by Stacey Keibler Luvs Me — June 7, 2006 @ 9:51 pm

SKLM,
Aha! So you went to Oregon State.

Odell,
BTW, congrats again on breaking one of the truly great stories of the offseason. This thing just won’t die. You and Carl Monday should form a crimefighting duo sworn to bring mustachioed Ohioans to justice.

J.J. – Would that be the: “Like a dog to it’s own vomit, so returns a fool to his folly”?

Even if not, that remains one of my favorite verses; along with:

“and there she doted upon her paramours whose members were as those of horses and whose emissions were those as of mules” Ezekiel something or other….

Classic scripture – love the dirty parts

JJ,

If there was such a position and it payed well…..

my favorite part of this thread, ignoring all the shennanigans, was the line:

“Anyone who watched Ty’s 2002 ‘turnaround’ year knew ND was winning with smoke and mirrors”

unless that was more sarcasm, i thought he was waking the echos, since thats all i heard from anyone in the notre dame camp.

SKLM,

Just answer the question. Where did you go to school? I promise not to go “insanely jealous and mad.”

Goddammit Orson.
Bite you arm off from underneath that co-ed you brought home last night, drag your lazy ass outta bed and post something.
Those of us with mundane careers rely on you to liven up what would normally be a suicide-inducing workplace.
I, nay, we expect more from you.
Sincerely,
The Readers of EDSBS

Nick, it was like saying that you believe santa claus is real even after finding your christmas presents in hidden in the top shelf of the closet. You want it to be true even though deep down you know you’re lying to yourself

santa claus isn’t real?

Tony-

First- if Orson brought home a co-ed for anything other than cleaning our house (not our pipes), it would be a very long time indeed before he posted anything. Or chewed solid food, for that matter.

Second- If he did chew his arm off, how could he type and mainline coffee at the same time? I’m not sure a needle between his toes would stay put.

-The Conscience of a Nation

Regarding Posts # 59 & # 63: Imitation of me is somewhat amusing. Sheep and crap humor is funny.

Walkernd95: I have degrees from two Ivy League universities, one located in Cambridge, MA (Harvard) and the other in NY, NY (Columbia). Unlike you domers, I do not like to drop the H bomb ad infinitum. Notre Dame is not bad, actually, if you cannot get into a really good university. But, who in the world would want to go to a school in the middle of nowhere?

Wow. A Cabin Boy reference. From a woman no less.

“These pipes…are CLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAN!”

re: Nick (post 67)

I’m not sure who you are referring to when you say “anyone in the Notre Dame camp”. I have been a frequenting the ND message boards for a quite a few years now (as opposed to, say, doing my job) and the vast majority of the posters, while happy to be winning, expressed a profound uneasiness — QB Carlyle Holiday looked lost, ND had no consistent offense save for Arnaz Battle plucking Holiday’s jump balls out of the sky, the experienced offensive line couldn’t run block effectively, and the Irish were living off of opponents turnovers: ND scored all of our touchdowns against Purdue returning interceptions and fumbles, Michigan turned it over 4 times in ND’s 25-23 win, the Stanford win (over a Cardinal team that won 2 games on the season) was 10-7 in the 4th quarter before the Irish returned 3 turnovers for scores, and Ty’s “signature” win, the 34-24 victory over Florida State in Tallahassee, came in a game that was tied 10-10 in the 3rd when FSU made 3 straight turnovers that ND converted into 17 points (without gaining a first down). So 4 of Ty’s 8 victories in his 8-0 start were off turnovers. Kirk Herbstreit, who seems to like ND, called us the “worst 8-0 team” he’d ever seen. The bubble burst against BC, then ND was exposed and embarrassed by USC and NC State to end the season.

As for Stacey Kiebler Luvs Me, I find two things funny:

1. I’m not quite sure how you know what the Ivies, Northwestern, and U. of Chicago think about ND. Did you go to any of those schools? Do you know professors at these schools? From my experience, ND’s Business, Law, and Architecture schools are very highly thought of. Their Philosophy school, believe it or not, is considered one of the top 5 in the world (my sis’s hubby is a non-ND philosophy major, as was just about everyone in their wedding – talk about argumentative). Even their Engineering dept., long not considered to be on the elite level, has recently entered into technology development joint partnerships with Stanford and Cal Tech. But I’ll give you a little benefit of doubt – please supply me with quotes from professors or administrators of the schools you mentioned where they place ND well beneath themselves.

2. Um, I actually know Stacey Keibler. We met when she and I both were religious work-out fiends at the Bally’s Gym in White Marsh, MD (north Baltimore) in 2000-02. She is friendly, to a point, and about as gorgeous in person as on TV, thought she doesn’t seem as tall when you’re standing next to her and is a little skinnier. From what I know from talking to her, she would definitely not “love” a pud like you. Sorry.

SKLM -
 
I had not read your post when I posted #75. I shall amend my statement: perhaps there are those at the Ivies that do not consider ND their peer. I am rather certain, though, that the majority of the faculty or administrators at these schools consider ND to be, at the very least, a “really good” university, if not in the Top 25 in the country. Wherever ND is the pecking order of academia, to state that ND is not, at the very least, a “really good” university is an asinine comment. If this is the product of two Ivy League degrees, my respect for Ivy institutions just plummeted.

OK, back to work…

Didn’t SKLM admit a while back in a thread that he never graduated from a university, I seem to recall that but I could be wrong

SKLM – are you completely full of shit or just playing the part? We all know you’re a junior college dropout. Nobody believes you ever set foot on an Ivy League campus and nobody really gives a rat’s ass either. We get all the information we could ever need to know about you through your posts. And who the fuck is Stacey Kiebler? You mean that wrestling chick from the dancing crackathon? OLD NEWS. You do play an excellent Captain Recap with your “Charlie Weis is fat!” – “The ND tailgate video was golden” – “Domers have a holier than thou attitude” answers to everything remotely dealing with anything Irish. You try too hard, kid.

“who in the world would want to go to a school in the middle of nowhere?”

Who in the world would want to go to a school without a decent Division IA football team, or at least one that you could see on TV after you graduate? And really, how hard would it be to recruit players or students in New York or Boston? Only the hardcore go to the windswept plains of northern Indiana!

irish fans: please do not allow the mindless, caustic taunts of the keibler elf to penetrate. this only pours gas on his voracious, self-important fire of negativity.

“You two better hope ND has a great year, because if not, guess who will be there with up to the minute commentary? "

I look forward to it. Congrats on your degrees.

Hey Stacy. Your “alma maters” combined for 5 conference wins last year. How do you like them apples?

(Applesauce, bitch)

I do not know what is worse, a) being told my schtick is not funny or b) being lumped with Stacy K. and Mr. Bill.

But, I stick by my earlier statement that Notre Dame is not all that excited about African Americans, unless they can play football or basketball.

If you had a grandkid or son, would you want them to go to a place where they would be a distinct minority, not just in the school, but in the community in general?

All kidding and partisanship aside, I think we all know the answer would be an easy “no”.

Completely disagree with you Harvey

Harvey, that’s a case of African Americans not being excited about ND, not the other way around. With Notre Dame being a school with a strong Catholic identity (85% of the student body is Roman Catholic) and there not being very many black Catholics, things just work out that way. The school does try to reach out and become more diverse, but unless it wants abandon its Catholic tradition, it’s probably not going to happen to a large extent.

The Latino student population is seeing a significant increase in the past few years though, for what it’s worth.

ND Tom:

I am amazed at how much interest the Latins have towards ND. I do not get it. But, there are a lot of things I do not get, such as the WNBA, arena football, and nooky.