CASTLE TO FORTIFY OSU’S ACADEMIC ELIGIBILITY
Doug Castle was hired by Ohio State coach Cheatypants McSweatervest this spring to work as an “academic encourager” for the football players. In that role, Castle goes from class to class three days per week, taking attendance and no doubt providing some first rate Youcandoits and Attaboys to the student athletes. No doubt Katzenmoyer could have used a few more of those back in his days as a scholar.
Beast on the field, needed more encouragement off the field.
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11warriors says:
The academic encourager is pretty funny, I will admit. However, I can’t imagine we’re the first school to have a position of this sort. I mean, think about it. Wouldn’t schools who cling to both their academic and athletic “traditions” (read: Notre Dame) just have a fanicer rug to sweep all the dirt under?
May 17th, 2006 at 2:43 am
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Truth says:
So OSU hires an advisor to make sure kids are going to class and they get ripped for it? Not being an OSU fan I understand people taking their shots, but why not support coaches who are attempting to raise their academic standards?
btw OSU is actually one of the toughest universities to get into nationwide… if you doubt me then check the facts for yourself (for non-football players anyways) so whoever said that ANYONE from Ohio can get in then you are wrong my friend.
Speak your mind, share your opinion, but at least get the facts right.
May 18th, 2006 at 8:56 pm
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OSU ALUM 03 says:
OSU Admissions Policy: http://undergrad.osu.edu/admissions/frcriteria.asp
Ohio State has a competitive admission process in which students are considered for admission based largely on their academic performance and credentials. Secondary factors include school and out-of-school activities. All students are considered under competitive standards except Ohio residents applying to an Ohio State regional campus in Lima, Mansfield, Marion, Newark, or to Ohio State ATI in Wooster.
Three primary factors are considered in our competitive admission review process:
Successful completion of the college preparatory curriculum while in high school. The minimum college prep requirements are listed below. Numbers in ( ) represent the recommended number of units for strong preparation.
4 units of college prep English
(4) 3 units of college prep math
(3) 2 units each of college prep science, social science and the same foreign language
1 unit of a visual or performing art
1 additional unit of the above courses
Students exceeding the minimum curriculum in math, natural resources, or foreign language will be given additional consideration.
High school performance as evidenced by class rank or grade point average.
Performance on the ACT or SAT (you must submit scores from one of the two tests).
You may be given additional consideration if:
you attend a competitive high school
you have taken accelerated courses (e.g. Honors, AP, IB)
you are a first-generation college student
you provide cultural, economic, racial, or geographic diversity
you possess particular outstanding talents
you have been involved in extracurricular activities, have had significant work experiences, or leadership positions
your high school performance was adversely affected by physical, mental, or learning environment factors
you are eligible for and will benefit from organized support services at Ohio State
Additional Requirements:
Ohio State requires that you receive a high school diploma from a chartered high school or GED to enroll.
Students attending Ohio State regional campuses must meet campus change requirements to enroll at the Columbus campus.
An official ACT or SAT score, sent directly from the agency, will be required for admission.
Don’t cheapen my education by saying that it is equiv. to a Community College.
May 23rd, 2006 at 4:23 pm
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Jon says:
osu is a thug, classless school with a few decent students around every once in a while. They recruit thug idiots who are good at football, and the admission requirements there are on par with some Comunity Colleges (they let any hs grad from Ohio in), and worst of all instead of just being honest with themselves like Miami and Memphis fans osu fans still try to argue that their school has half the class or academics of an actually competent, respectable state school like Georgia, Michigan, or Virginia.
May 25th, 2006 at 4:24 pm
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Patrick says:
OSU is a thug, huh. Interesting, I’m an OSU law student and, last I checked, more than 3000 applicants applied for only 250 seats. That’s an applicant to admission ratio in the top ten in the nation. The law school itself has been ranked as high as eighth in the nation and as low as 32nd. Either way, it’s considered one of the premier law schools in the United States. When “Jon” can get into and sit next to me in class at this “thug” university, then maybe he can open his classless dumbass trap. Until then, I suggest you figure out who you’re calling thug, while The Ohio State University Football program is kicking the shit out of whoever you root for next season.
May 27th, 2006 at 12:10 am
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Jon says:
Gee great point there “Patrick,” is the obsessive use of quotes something they teach you over there at the oh so prestigious osu law school? Just out of curiosity how many osu football players are law school students? What’s that? NONE! Oh. Well then you certainly brought some awfully pertinent information to the table. Oh and congratulations, honestly it must make you feel good that some people who write a magazine occasionally say that osu has a decent law program. You should discuss this in your next law class and have your professor explain to you how the only non geographical connection between the osu law program and the football program is that the former often assembles the defense teams that make sure when the football players serve their time, they do it in the off season. Do you notice how your entire e-mail illustrated my point about osu students have illusions of academic grandeur, and just cannot bear to admit to themselves how classless the football team, if not the entire school is. Stop calling it the osu too; I understand it’s confusing to the students when they are told that there is actually more than one university in ohio, but seriously try to be original and stop following the trend (started by the true U, Miami, coincidentally).
May 27th, 2006 at 3:13 pm
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Patrick says:
Well, Jon. If you had read your post to start with, then you would have understood why my post was referring to the law school (and the general academic population, both undergraduate and graduate) and not just the football team. It’s time for some of those quotes you love so much because here is what your post said that I replied to (it’s painful having to help you out this much), “osu is a thug, classless school with a few decent students around every once in a while.” Is there any place in that quote that points to your comment being directed at the football team only? I have no problem with you stating your perceptions of the football team (however uneducated and uninformed they may be). My point was that OSU is a good, if not great, academic school as compared to any school in the nation (especially the University of Miami, which is known and almost prides itself on recruiting thugs). I really couldn’t care less whether or not there are any football players in the law school since your statement was that the university had a few “decent” students. Your words, not mine. As for my illusions of grandeur, I agree that a magazine knows nothing about what the actual law school is about, but I also know that OSU law grads are practicing in all fifty states and thirty-five countries. That tells me that someone else thinks our graduates are pretty good as well. Regardless, if this is just another Miami fan that is bitter about the defeat that sent your program into freefall, please accept our apologies, but honestly get a real coach and maybe you’ll win some more games. We’ll be thinking of you guys when we’re in Tempe in January.
Sincerely,
Classless OSU Thug
May 28th, 2006 at 1:46 am
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Jon says:
Well I was just kind of thinking that possibly when I post something on a COLLEGE FOOTBALL website that my comments just might have more relevance to the FOOTBALL TEAM than the entire student body. But if the theme of this website has managed to escape you I was referring more to the football team as classless and thug infested which it is according to any research one could possibly do (or was my information on that Maurice Clarett kid was simply disinformation by the Liberal Michigan alumni controlled media). You do have a point though, I should have substituted the word “school” for “program” in that quote seeing as the entire student body is not thug (though classless is still quite a possibility). However, your idea that osu is great academically is simply idiotic. Lets compare your school to oh… say…Michigan. Michigan is widely noted for being one the best public universities in the nation (osu clearly is not). Michigan has amazing programs in science, law (according all rankings MUCH better than osu’s), and engineering just to name a few. Not only that now that I check they seem to be winning your little rivalry too, and they have more national titles. I understand the term “decent student” is a bit relative, by decent I mean someone who manages to do better than some shitty state school like Alabama, Tennessee, or osu (they are all about on par). Congratulations that some osu law grads managed to pass the bar in various states, I am sure that must mean it is one great law school!!!! Seriously, what large state law school couldn’t make a claim like that? I am actually not a big Miami fan but I do enjoy how upfront they are in not kidding themselves into thinking their program has an ounce of class, whereas for some reason osu still seems to be in denial. By the way, Miami was clearly the better team in that game, you guys got the good end of possibly the worst int calls EVER, and managed to injure their star, and thus barely won the game.
May 28th, 2006 at 8:30 pm
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jaboggs says:
I guess I could care less about the academics. I really just want the players to be eligible. Anyone who says otherwise is full of crap. I would rather have a 2.0 team GPA and 10 wins versus 3.5 and 3 wins. Nobody cares about the livelihood of these kids after college, unless it’s a rival’s star player pumping your gas or you know them personally. It’s entertainment, people. Just admit it.
May 31st, 2006 at 12:09 pm
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zach says:
Jon don’t try save yourself you’re digging a deeper hole. If your post was only about football then why would you call out the fans and overall admission standards? By the way, check your sources before you bash a school you know nothing about because OSU is one of the toughest Universities to get into in the Midwest.
June 2nd, 2006 at 2:52 am
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Bryan says:
OSU Alum, that part that reads, “All students are considered under competitive standards except Ohio residents applying to an Ohio State regional campus in Lima, Mansfield, Marion, Newark, or to Ohio State ATI in Wooster” means that Ohio residents get into tOSU. Those accepted at a branch campus who graduate have “The Ohio State University” printed on their diplomas. In other words, anyone who graduates from high school in Ohio can get a tOSU diploma.
If that’s not community college, I don’t know what is. Now, I can see supporting that mission; I find it quite commendable that Ohio is allowing all of its high school graduates to attend and graduate from tOSU. Nonetheless, that doesn’t make tOSU an academic powerhouse. It is not, and never will be, because its mission is to serve such an enormous number of students–it’s the land grant and the flagship institution. Schools like Wisconsin, Michigan, and Minnesota, while undoubtedly superior in USNews Rankings and the quality of student they attract, do not have such a commendable mission and are likely less diverse because of it. tOSU is a major research school, but let’s acknowledge the facts too.
No one is cheapening your education. After all, if you didn’t want to have an OSU diploma, you shouldn’t have gone there.
June 13th, 2006 at 9:56 am