FULMER CUP UPDATE, FIDDLING NERO EDITION

It sounds as if Sanchez was determined to beat Booty one way or another.

Again in case anyone needs a refresher on what has gone on under Pom Pom Carroll at Thug Central:

http://www.bruinsnation.com/story/2006/4/25/18375/2816

If SUC had any dignity … Pom Pom would be resigning by the end of this weekend. But they don’t.

Newest Press Release from Michael Jackson…

Billy Jean is not Mark’s Lover
She’s just a girl that pressed charges for fun.
But our Nark is not the one
She says she saw Mark’s gun, But our Mark is not the one.

Eehheeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiii!!

Whatever the Fulmer Cup score is for the underlying, I move to award one bonus point for baiting Bill Simmons. You’ve got to nip that shit in the bud.

So, at what point do we apply the phrase “loss of institutional control” in regards to the Condoms?

The “Dirty Sanchez” jokes write themselves.

So who wants to take bets on when “Michael L. Jackson” started using the whole middle initial thing? Also, is it just me or is it odd that it says that security cameras saw Sanchez and that they somehow also captured the name on the ID?

Sigh.

If in fact Sanchez did this, they need to throw his ass out.

Who Cares? Bruin fans must be on an all-time high right now with Bush and Dirty Sanchez on their minds 24/7. I hate to disappoint them, but in the end, USC will not be on probation, Sanchez will be dressed out for the season opener, and the ultimate nightmare, Pete Carroll will still be coaching USC. All this means one main thing to UCLA fans, USC will still wipe the floor with the Bruins this fall.

Those hoping for some sort of collapse of the Trojan dynasty are in for disappointment. If there is one thing we should all have learned by now, it’s that teams that lose a total of 3 games in a 4 year period can dodge just about any bullet, including NCAA allegations and criminal actions. This is college football after all. USC is just catching up on their quota for off the field antics.

Psh. This is nothing. FSU beat ass and then kicked ass for 14 years in a row. Let me know when 2016 rolls around.

He’s about to be starting QB as a rs FR, a position that has produced two Heisman Trophy winning top 5 NFL picks in their last two players. WTF is he doing as a rapist? This is one I’d want to wait on all the facts to come out before making a conclusion.

Italiangator, many college bars now have little machines at the door that they put your ID in to take a picture of it, which is stored alongside your picture from the security camera. That way they have proof you were admitted with what they thought was a valid ID. Very handy in case you get drunk and do something stupid like, you know, raping people.

Rebel,

Probably right. Sanchez will get off. He is going to be all lawyered up just like all the other thugs at SC.

And Pom Pom may still wipe the floor with Karl Dorrell (the Black Steve Lavin).

But we are going to enjoy this implosion just like those motherf*ckers did over Foster (SUV) and Paus (DUI) during the Toledo era.

Remember one of the main reasons Toledo was fired was because of lack of inst. control at UCLA … what is going to happen at U$C?

At the risk of speaking too soon, is anyone noticing an award named after my football coach (for good reason after last year) has not one entrant from the originating program?

Further indictment of the Trojan team – the assault evidently happened in the middle of the day in the middle of the week. Why wasn’t the “alleged” Sanchez in class? or is class attendance as optional on the west coast for football stars as it is here in the deep south? I am now hearing that 70’s song “Afternoon Delight” ringing in my head. Oh to be a college student again.

While there are always 2 sides to every story, particularly sexual assault allegations (just ask a Duke lacross player), the $200k bond suggestions a hightened degree of seriousness. It’s looking to be a bit tougher for SC to shrug off the Clausen signing at ND though. Ahhh schadenfreude…

Enjoy away Nestor, I’d be doing the same if it was my rival until the tables turned and some of our idiots started screwing up again.

My only question, what was Toledo’s record at UCLA?

The reason I ask is b/c I doubt the “lack of institutional control” would have been too much of an issue had he been winning regularly. Maybe I’m wrong, but I do know that winning can get you a lot of free passes when it comes to college football. In that case, Carroll has a ton of them.

Case in point, Nolan Richardson coached that weird sport with the big, round, orange bouncy ball at Arkansas. He had awful graduation rates every year, yet somehow that was never a problem when he was fielding a Top 10 program. Once the program began to slip, however, he was shown the door with those same graduation rates being one of the main reasons cited for his departure.

Like I said before, all UCLA fans want Carroll gone, b/c they know that as long as he’s at USC, USC will be a title contender. It has nothing to do with wanting the right thing to be done and everything to do with wanting USC to fall from grace and become an average football program.

Thanks for the answer Phil K- maybe this is a sign I should stop going to bars that just wave you into the dark cinder-block edifice. Ahhh, Munnegins, a drinking establishment- those were the days back in Gainesville…

Good point Notre Dan—that 200K bond is a little scary for those hoping this was a grand misunderstanding.

Toledo’s record in his last three years against USC was a big reason of his firing. No disputing that.

But he was also fired for the black eyes on the football program.

And UCLA has no problem firing successful coaches if they bring perception issues to the program. Case in point – UCLA fired Harrick just a year after he won the National Championship.

Things are different at Thug Central.

As much as the crew over at BN hates SC I’m a little surprised at the “all SC all the time” mode that they are in over there. And I thought it was bruin blog. Go figure ?

Mike said:
“Further indictment of the Trojan team – the assault evidently happened in the middle of the day in the middle of the week. Why wasn’t the “alleged” Sanchez in class? or is class attendance as optional on the west coast for football stars as it is here in the deep south?”

You do realize that unless you’re taking about more than 20something hours, you will not be in class all day in college. It’s not exactly 9-5 Monday-Friday. Also, I’m pretty sure most schools require their athletes to register for classes that are in the 8am to 2:30pm range, unless they get permission to sign up for something else.

Addendum – Harrick was fired over questions around a huge dinner tab over two recruits (Jason Collins twins).

And he was fired after winning the Pac-10, (a year after winning the NC), and positioned with a team that made a serious Final-4 run the year he was fired.

So UCLA has no problems firing successful major sports coaches if they bring a black eye to the program.

That said, it’s still quite possible that it is optional like it is down here. :-p

Sanchez Stupidity Dept:

According to the LA Daily News:

“Sanchez went to an off-campus bar Tuesday night and was dropped off around 1:30 a.m. at Cardinal Gardens, where he met the alleged victim, who also lives in the complex….
 
Ironically, Sanchez attended a workshop Tuesday night at Heritage Hall for athletes on rape awareness.”

I guess Sanchez wants to beat Bush in the “Stupidest jackball at USC” during 2006.

Is this the beginning of the end of scandals at USC? Or the end of the beginning? Or the middle of the beginning? I’m confusing myself….again…

It is interesting that no Vol entry yet. I’d hate to think that EDSBS would have to rename the trophy we love so much in a manner that wouldn’t get to tweak our rivals as much.

Not to worry Stranko,

Despite Fulmer talking at Media Days last year about this being an issue of society, not of Voldum, he’ll be back.

Even UT has to have rebuilding years.

I’m actually a little worried about Nestor — he seems even angrier now than during the season. That can’t be healthy.

Trojan Cup

(for the 2007 version instead of Fulmer Cup) does have an interesting ring to it, don’t you think. Better certainly than Blue Hen cup.

Oh and pkyle, I do know that college isn’t 8-5, just making light of the initial inclination that this happened during the school day, not some random weekend night. Of course later reports appear to point to a late night escalade (I mean escapade) after attending a rape-awareness class.

O,

That picture you put up with this post is genius! LOL! Absolutely perfect.

Cute DC.

Cute. lol

This is bad for USC no doubt.

The timing makes it look like the little yapping chihuahuas at Bruins nation might actually be right when that’s not the case at all.

Still as a USC fan I have to love those guys, nobody on earth could make UCLA look as bad as they do.

As the local phrase goes: I’m just sayin’, Nestor.

Can’t have a rivalry without true believers on both sides; don’t burn out before September!

Also, Stranko, can you imagine the glee that will strike this site when UT does show up in a glorious manner to take the lead? Mayhem I say, mayhem!

USC-philes:

If the allegations are true, and Mark does not play any more at least this season, how comfortable do you feel about possibly entering the season with your #3 quarterback?

Select Others:

Chill out about Jimmy “frizz” Clausen and USC missing out on his verbal. Even if he did verbal with USC, he wouldn’t be a factor anyways. He’s completely irrelevant as far as this year goes for ND, USC, and everyone else except his high school.

E-man: All signs are that JD Booty will be back for the fall. But clearly there is more pressure to do so if, as it seems, then Sanchez will be out of the picture.

The #3 quarterback is (get ready with the Doobie Brothers jokes), MIchael McDonald. I saw him play, and throw a touchdown, against Arkansas last year. He looked like a solid division 1 QB. He’s the #3 quarterback, so obviously there would be some discomfort there. But he is talented, and the son of a USC all-American QB, so in some ways it would be interesting to see what he could do if given a shot.

Matt Cassel was a 3rd string QB (behind Leinart and Booty) who made the NFL last year so there is plenty of depth to the QB talent at USC.

Talented, and blessed with a bracing falsetto.

What a fool be-LIEEEEEEEEEVES…

So, tanked up hornball and athletic stud shows up at some girl’s apt after drunk calling her to see if he might get some. Somewhere along the line shit gets confused and it turns out she’s not down for the dirty sanchez. In his inebriated state, he figures no means ‘try harder’ and winds up getting sent to jail. Its likley this girl had a test or something the next day so she wasn’t down for the action. Her roomates convince her that just because hes the QB and future local hero, he shouldn’t get away with it. Her “mother hen” friend convinces her to call the police, creating this situation.

Another scenario is that the girl is drunk, gives no indication that she isn’t into it or even actively goes after the hornball stud and then feels bad about it when she wakes up in the morning. The guy can still be facing the same charges under the law.

The law says if she’s drunk then she can’t give consent so the man can be a rapist even if she’s begging him for it when the encounter happens. Right now there is a ton of speculation and very few actual facts available. Isn’t the internet fun?

Yeah there’s no reason to give him the benefit of the doubt like I did. That was poor form on my end. Lets just hope it doesn’t turn out that she was a stout girl. It would be even sadder.

As to the Carroll-Herrick comparisons.

Herrick was (rightly) fired for things HE did involving corrupt recruiting.

Nobody (legitimate) has said Carroll has violated any NCAA rules in his recruiting or operation of the USC football program. The Sanchez thing is obviously bad, but it happens that young atheletes get drunk and do bad things sometimes. (SC is still way down in the Fullmer Cup standings). The Bush thing is not even regarding the actual athelete but his parents. And any corruption (if it happened) didn’t involve recruiting but rather an early payoff from someone connected to a potential agent (that’s a hell of a long way from being a direct tie in to Carroll or the University).

And the littany of “crimes” including the Lendale White Halloween prank (which was awesome) and not kicking oj out of practice is laughable. That’s about the same thing as the lists of a thousand people Bill Clinton had killed that some other whacko’s compiled.

Obvioiusly the real thuggery that you are crying over is the beatings the UCLA team has been taking.

Thousand people Bill Clinton killed?

No wonder … So Phil is just another Dubya supporting lunatic (28 percent of the wackos who still support the Chimp in White House)?

Keep looking for that WMDs Philly. Guess they all got misdirected and somehow ended up in South Central.

Philly doing some hard work for the Heritage Hall:

Cheat on.

No Nestor, you need to obtain some reading comprehension.

When I compare the Clinton kill lists to yours and say they were compiled by whackos that does not mean that I support Bush. (I’m not shilling for any politician here, there are more important things on the table at EDSBS).

Does the name Nestor16 mean that you are a 16 year old who want’s to go to UCLA someday? If so you had better hit the books and spend less time on the interweb kid. If you are already as student or graduate of the school in Westwood, then you can be exhibit A as to how the academics have apparently slipped over there.

BTW, people over at Bruins Nation don’t seem to know which school’s freshman have higher SAT scores when they talk about USC.

rofl at Phil.

now comparing SUC freshmen class’s academics to UCLA’s freshmen class.

keep it up whackjob.

Rape on!

Hear hear, Phil. Ron Brown conspiracy schemes have nothing on a Mike Nugent doll or the complexities of the 3-3-5 defense. Good to see we have our priorities straight.

Now back to our brandy…

Thanks for the kind words, Orson.

As for Nestor, the numbers on the SAT scores are available.

http://www.princetonreview.com/testprep/testprep.asp?TPRPAGE=295&TYPE=SAT-ACT-HOME

to quote from the table:

SAT Math: USC- 685 UCLA-660
SAT Reading: USC-665 UCLA-629
SAT Writing: USC 650-700 UCLA- 610-690
ACT: USC- 29 UCLA- 27

The fact is the incoming students at USC beat the incoming students at UCLA on every test. The “you kick our asses in football but we are a better academic school” argument went by the wayside awhile ago. You still have a good basketball team though.

Oh geez … I can’t believe I am letting a whackjob to suck me into turning this fine blog into a place for a pathetic argument on admission stats teaching a stupid Trojan love on how college admission works?

SC’s entering freshmen class GPA is always slightly higher because their admission office’s PR department calculate the test score of their loser freshmen class in such a way that they only take the best score from each 3 sections instead of taking the aggregate score. UCLA just takes the best aggregate score.

Meanwhile the entering SC freshmen class comes in with sub. 4.0 GPA (average at 3.8 last year). Lot of these losers are out of state rejects who couldn’t get into NYU, Georgetown or lot of the Ivies despite taking that test multiple times, while UCLA’s entering class come in with a GPA well over 4.0 just like any of the top schools in the US News Top-25 (SC is not in that top-25 BTW). So when you combine both standards (GPA and standard test scores) UCLA’s freshmen class wipes the floor with those future rapist, thug worshippers at SC.

Anyways you can keep bragging about your SAT scores … because by the time next season comes around you won’t have much to cheer about.

And we may just kick your ass in football even with Dorrell.

After all we kicked your sorry little pathetic asses 8 times in a row even with mediocre coaches like Donahue and Toledo.

Now you can have the last word … whack job.

Cheat on.

Guys,

Marco, who is in charge of the blog “ND ChooChoo” might be WAYYY beyond “Gonzo Journalism” but he has a FANTASTIC opinion piece on the Bush, Winston, and Sanchez incidents. A must read.

I wonder if the thought has ever passed through the minds of Dirty Drunk Sanchez and the Duke lacrosse boys that their mothers and sisters are potential rape victims. Truly sad.

“BOHEMOUTHS with SPEED and STERLING INTELLECT roaming the Northern Indiana Plains LAYING DOWN THE LUMBER on anyone who gets in their way!!

NASTY?? That doesn’t do these lads justice. They are SUPER HUMAN GENTLEMEN WARRIOR PRINCES defending the innocent, protecting the helpless, and BUILT TO DESTROY EVILDOERS!!"

a typical excerpt from Marco’s site. comic genius. evil robot comic genius.

From Soonerfans

Courtesy of Soonerpsycho

Well, hell, that HTML didn’t work…

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Sexual assault allegations aside, the “Harold and Kumar Go to White Castle” portion of the L.A. Times story is unbelievable:

“USC students Matthew Menjou and Altman Tsang, roommates who live in a building adjacent to where Sanchez was taken into custody, said Sanchez happened upon them in a parking lot behind the apartment buildings about 1:30 a.m.

Menjou, from Torrance, said he and Tsang, who is from Centerville, Va., said

they had returned from getting something to eat when the car they were in ran out of gas just as they prepared to park.

Menjou said Sanchez, whom he recognized from photos as a football player who was supposed to be “the next Matt Leinart,” showed up and offered to help them push the car into a space.

Wow. Harold and Kumar (inadvertantly) may end up a witnesses here, if only to corroborate a timeline that emerges during discovery. And they thought they were just running to White Castle…

Nestor, how many times a day do you have to wipe the spittle off of your computer screen?

You might help your case if you didn’t seem to get GPA and SAT mixed up. Also saying that anybody who goes to an out of state college is “a loser” is just silly. USC pulls in students from across the nation (and world) and that’s a good thing. I’d guess that many of those out of state students come from places with less grade inflation than California. That makes the SAT and ACT test scores the most valid comparison I think.

I’ve taken a few math courses over the years but none that told me how to take 3 smaller numbers and add them together and get an aggregate result that is more than the sum of 3 larger numbers. Maybe that’s special Nestor mathamagic.

Nestor, you have a fine university that you can be proud of. They have a great basketball tradition and sometimes they have a decent football team. They are not one of the elite teams in football. You should be thrilled with your fine coach for leading you to a 10-2 season with victories in your bowl and against Oklahoma. Don’t be so full of hatred just because the team and University on the other side of town is better.

Keep spinning Philly (and love that fantastic math skilz!) … the more you do it … the more you sound like the bitter little Trojan imbecile. Keep licking the Sanchez willie.

Hate on.

Pretty sad that us Bruin fans jump all over a kid when the charges were dropped. It wasn’t rape, it was kissing and touching with an ex who got pissed. Get this kid’s name out of the mud.